Small mafia game 'Guess what your role is' (aka 'role insanity') [Concluded]

I used my ability last night. I am confirmed as the gravedigger. I pick three roles today during the day and I'll be one of them starting tonight.

vote: robbiecon

Ok, I went back the QT and although Chaotix claims to have scanned me the very night I recruited him, it took him few posts before informing me and I just don't understand why a role-scanner with a result PM would ever do that...
Instead he was quite confused and interested, asking questions, so I'm going to Unvote; Vote: Chaotix and invite everyone to do so...

I'm changing my vote on him, because he now claims to have scanned two other players, during very first two night phases and both are now dead (very easy picks and the timing for their disclosure is just suspicious), but one of them was Ishmael and he just didn't inform me or the town about his claim as insane vigilante. Ishmael cooperating and desiring to stop sending orders, makes me think they he just wanted to get rid of him...

Right now I don't have any indication that BSmith might be his partner, but by exclusion that's the only explanation...
Unless he and robbie tried the scheme of the century by claiming two scanning roles and splitting the town in two factions (honestly this is a bit too much lol)...

Unvote: Vote: robbiecon

Tally

4 Chaotix: robbiecon, Memnon, DaveShack, Arjos
1 Arjos: Zaccino
3 robbiecon: Chaotix, BSmith, edse

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Originally Posted by Arjos

Ok, I went back the QT and although Chaotix claims to have scanned me the very night I recruited him, it took him few posts before informing me and I just don't understand why a role-scanner with a result PM would ever do that...
Instead he was quite confused and interested, asking questions, so I'm going to Unvote; Vote: Chaotix and invite everyone to do so...

I'm changing my vote on him, because he now claims to have scanned two other players, during very first two night phases and both are now dead (very easy picks and the timing for their disclosure is just suspicious), but one of them was Ishmael and he just didn't inform me or the town about his claim as insane vigilante. Ishmael cooperating and desiring to stop sending orders, makes me think they he just wanted to get rid of him...

Right now I don't have any indication that BSmith might be his partner, but by exclusion that's the only explanation...
Unless he and robbie tried the scheme of the century by claiming two scanning roles and splitting the town in two factions (honestly this is a bit too much lol)...

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What? You're not making any sense.

I played dumb in the quicktopic because I was suspicious of you at first.

Then I looked at your behavior in the thread and it seemed pretty town-like, so I decided to trust you.

Now I'm starting to change my mind.

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Originally Posted by Chaotix

I played dumb in the quicktopic because I was suspicious of you at first.

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That's exactly it, why would a role-scanner, with 100% intel, ever do that?
And even now, knowing that I made that QT and used my ability to recruit you, why would you ever suspect me?

Your story just doesn't check out...
Are you claiming a role-scanner, who scanned me as a recruiter mason, but was wrong? XD

unvote; vote: Chaotix

Unvote, Vote: Chaotix

Your story has more holes than swiss cheese.

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Originally Posted by Arjos

That's exactly it, why would a role-scanner, with 100% intel, ever do that?
And even now, knowing that I made that QT and used my ability to recruit you, why would you ever suspect me?

Your story just doesn't check out...
Are you claiming a role-scanner, who scanned me as a recruiter mason, but was wrong? XD

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Role scanners can't scan for alignment.

All I got was your role.

Is there something wrong with my line of reasoning here? Just because I know your role doesn't mean you can't be scum. That is why I played dumb.

Not like it matters now, looks like you've been quite skillful into manipulating the town into lynching me. This should be good. You are the recruiting mason, going to get together a nice large group of confirmed townies. Meanwhile, you are the scum, leading them to their doom. Perfect.

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Originally Posted by Chaotix

Role scanners can't scan for alignment.

All I got was your role.

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Think again:

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Originally Posted by Jarema

List of possible mafia roles:

1. Yakuza - once per game, you can 'yak': you commit suicide, and your target becomes mafia. if you are protected while 'yakking' you survive.
2. Silencer – your target cannot post anything other than his vote during next day. You cannot use this ability on the same person twice in a row.
3. Framer – for all scanners, your target will appear mafia.
4. Blackmailer – you decide for who your target will vote during next day. You cannot use this ability on the same person twice in a row.
5. Role-stealer – if your target dies during the same night, you get his role.
6. Informant – you got copies of all messages that your target gets from me at the end of the night. You cannot use this ability on the same person twice in a row.
7. Witch – you put a curse on your target. If your target is visited by anyone else than mafia during the same night, he dies. Both doctors (and all their variants) and protectors will protect against this ability.

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I would like to explain, as this may be due to my poor english:

Quote from opening post:
Mafia will also get a power role; these roles would be chosen from the same list, but with some restrictions (for example, no mafia mayor). One or more mafia member will get a role from special list of mafia roles.
If there would be a cult, there will be three additional possible roles.

It means that mafia member can have almost every town role, but also he can have a special, mafia-only role.

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Originally Posted by Jarema

I would like to explain, as this may be due to my poor english:

Quote from opening post:
Mafia will also get a power role; these roles would be chosen from the same list, but with some restrictions (for example, no mafia mayor). One or more mafia member will get a role from special list of mafia roles.
If there would be a cult, there will be three additional possible roles.

It means that mafia member can have almost every town role, but also he can have a special, mafia-only role.

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There's this.

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Originally Posted by Arjos

Think again:

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And there's the fact that even if what you claimed had been true, then you would be a hypocrite. Voting for me because you said I should have been sure you were town with your role, yet you knew (or thought you knew) that a role scanner could not be mafia.

Think about it. We know almost everybody's role for a certainty based on night actions or scans. If we don't, we can narrow it down to a group of them. Visorslash was the only one with a mafia role, and indeed there must still be mafia among us. It stands to reason that mafia must be able to have regular roles.

But you knew that already, before Jarema had to spell it out for you. Scum.

Unvote, Vote: Arjos

I may die, but I'm gonna point my cold, dead fingers at you till you join me.

That, withholding your info on Ishmael the day of his lynch, claiming to have scanned dead people only this round: all days after you claimed to have trusted me...

You have done lots of shady things...

Before this you "cleared" these still alive players: me (scanned as a recruiting mason, now ok what Jarema said, but would a mafia get a role that would die if targeting mafia? imba cover much?), BSmith (by extention due to your scan of me as a mason) and Zack (commuter, but now we know that mafia can have any role, still same thing as BSmith applies).

Robbie the following: edse, memnon and daveshack.

I don't see how both views can work together, so either robbie claimed a better cover and is lying or you are lying...

If you are really a role-scanner, going paranoically or vengefully after me isn't going to help, if that's what your votes have been so far, well sorry if pretty much everybody is perceiving your detrimental behaviour as... well, detrimental XD

more info would be here later
Chaotix lynched. He was mafia, role scanner.
Night begins. it will last about 24 hours

Bah, thank the gods, that Jarema post gave me a scare XD

And damn you Chaotix, I read through you that day, wasted 2 rounds! :P

Well, here's to hoping your little gambit pays off, Arjos.

If Arjos turns out to be Chaotix's partner I will be mightily impressed. I'm taking notes either way.

I almost bought the role scanner line, but it still seemed a little off and a little too convenient. Scumdar upgrade successful. ~:cool:

Robbiecon has been killed.

He was townie. He was a monkey.

Day begins.





Living:
1. DaveShack
2. Edse
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4. BSmith
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6. Memnon
7. Arjos
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15. Zaccino

Dead:
Montmorency: town, cop. Lynched day 1.
Nightbringer: town, jailkeeper. Killed night 1.
Visorslash: mafia, informant. Lynched day 2.
The King: town, curious guy. Killed night 2
Atheotes: town, doctor. Killed night 2
Ishmael: town, judge dread. Lynched day 3
johnhughtom: town, skitzo. Killed night 3
Chaotix: mafia, role scanner. Lynched day 4
Robbiecon: town, monkey. Killed night 4

Who's it gonna be, Arjos? Who is it?

Who's my p-p-p-p-partner??!?!?

Arjos bussing was not convincing enough Vote: Arjos

Vote: BSmith

And also I want to nominate edse as the most clueless townie there ever was, or will be :D

How can that be even thought as bussing? Most votes were on Robbie and I turned over to Chaotix, after reading the QT...

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Originally Posted by Arjos

Vote: BSmith

And also I want to nominate edse as the most clueless townie there ever was, or will be :D

How can that be even thought as bussing? Most votes were on Robbie and I turned over to Chaotix, after reading the QT...

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So that you would be totally cleared from all suspicion from now on.

Oh yes and it all started with me revealing to the town JHT's role, clearing Memnon with what I knew, being the first one to read through Chaotix's behaviour in D2...
Yeah, yeah, it was all the masterplan for this moment!

Revealing most roles, making a case on Chaotix, when only few wanted him dead, yes, yes, I must have lynched my partner when there was no need to, you are so right!

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Originally Posted by Arjos

Oh yes and it all started with me revealing to the town JHT's role, clearing Memnon with what I knew, being the first one to read through Chaotix's behaviour in D2...
Yeah, yeah, it was all the masterplan for this moment!

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When you saw that the lynch was going to be between Chaotix and robbiecon you decided that the best thing would be to buss Chaotix. If you hadn't there would be DaveShack, Memnon and I as confirmed innocents and you and Chaotix on the list of suspects, now you have a much better situation.

You are so much into your fantasy world, you don't even think about the other players XD

Better situation? There should be five townies and in your sick mind, I lynched a partner, when robbie was well in the lead with 3 votes?

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Originally Posted by Arjos

You are so much into your fantasy world, you don't even think about the other players XD

Better situation? There should be five townies and in your sick mind, I lynched a partner, when robbie was well in the lead with 3 votes?

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If robbiecon were lynched

-DaveShack, Memnon, edse confirmed innocent
-Arjos, Chaotix, BSmith, Zaccino candidates for next lynch

You bussing Chaotix for the lynch

-You "confirmed" innocent
-BSmith and Zaccino main targets for the next lynch (Chaotix cleared them)

The mistake you did was to kill robbiecon in fear of him clearing more people, since now we know robbiecon was telling the truth.

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I'm just messing with you, Zaccino is the last mafia. :laugh4:

Unvote: Vote: Zaccino

You have night results for that?

I'm sure it's either him or BSmith, but since Chaotix wanted that Ishmael tie with Zack is possible...

And seriously I thought you went pathologically clueless on me XD

Both BSmith and Zaccino visited robbiecon but BSmith is a cop.

Oracle's scan eh?

Sorry BSmith, but I thought I was cursed with recruiting mafia in my QT lol

Unvote; Vote: Zaccino