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There is no Amazon madness. You're being a little harsh. So far we have taken out of the MOD:Quote:
Originally Posted by Dead Moroz
-Screeching Women
-Headhunting Maidens
-Amazon Chariots
The only one lacking is Scythian Noble Women. Shall we make them Sarmatian Noble Women in a future 32 factions MOD?
Great!!! And with another image description for the strategical map. :smile: :thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by PSYCHO V
The centurion uses scale mail , and the triari on my font used breastplate , for taking off the shoulder as I already said I need 3dsmax so can't now .....
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Originally Posted by Dead Moroz
There is something about your shield designs that seems odd. The texture does not seem to have depth. Make a comparation of your designs to the original ones and you'll understand what I mean. I think the yellow needs a dark outline to make it more defined.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dead Moroz
fixed .....Quote:
There is something about your shield designs that seems odd. The texture does not seem to have depth. Make a comparation of your designs to the original ones and you'll understand what I mean. I think the yellow needs a dark outline to make it more defined.
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btw I found a way to make work my 3dsmax copy again , now I will make some experiments....
OK. I'll correct the shoulders in MAX then.Quote:
Originally Posted by PROMETHEUS
As for the Triarii, Princeps, Hastati:
http://www.mcbridecollectors.com/mcbrid6.jpg
http://www.slitherine.co.uk/Legion/I...pRomeAtWar.jpg
http://people.freenet.de/totalwar/scans/ConAlesia.jpg
http://img69.exs.cx/img69/1648/Repub...y200-104BC.jpg
Specially these ones:
http://www.historialago.com/leg_cart...dosroma_01.jpg
http://img124.exs.cx/img124/8312/Has...cepsTriari.jpg
See? No breastplates over the mail armour... :smile:
As for Centurion (the guy in the back):
http://members.ozemail.com.au/~gkirby/Battle2.jpg
As for the Legatus and Aquilifer:
http://www.historialago.com/leg_cart...dosroma_02.jpg
As you can see the Legatus as a cuirass (integral breastplate). But the only one to use a "normal" brestplate is the Hastati.
Aquilifer:
http://www.markchurms.com/Merchant2/...cs/eagle-l.jpg
Before I send you the PM about new Roman units, how about this for Italian Allies soldiers?
http://tinypic.com/5pwub
Maybe an Etruscan too? :thinking:
I hope you will like this , Praetorian cohort late period , whatremains to fix is ....
too bright helm crest
to make more white the tunic
to make more shaded the shield ,
but this is my very first 3dsmax modification , I used and reworked better the Agrippa model.....
http://img21.exs.cx/img21/9046/jpg10.jpg
Here the fixed version......
http://img21.exs.cx/img21/7816/jpg11.jpg
PROMETHEUS, 2 things must be changed:
- Shield: ugly pattern, wrong shape, too dark.
- Crest: too small and narrow.
http://www.figureinternational.com/b...ia_jpg_jpg.jpg
You're a demanding guy, hey? ~:) But I agree that the more perfect the better. The more we keep that standard the better the final result of the MOD.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dead Moroz
BTW, PROMETEUS!!! ~:wave: Great work!!!
Need some help with the (Gallic) Tribal Militia
The neck line is giving me the sh8s. Any ideas? General comments?
Not demanding, just complaining. ~;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Aymar de Bois Mauri
Has there been any change to the torso and body of these models, or are they original? Because for some reason they look too thin to me... I don't remember if the originals were also that slim....
How about fur collar? Or boa? :clown:Quote:
Originally Posted by PSYCHO V
no is fine as is , infact the pattern is correct for the late Praetorian guard , the pattern u suggest is for the older one wich I already made , the dark is becouse is not on lightQuote:
Shield: ugly pattern, wrong shape, too dark.
- Crest: too small and narrow.
http://img93.exs.cx/img93/9180/jpg6.jpg
the crest is fine and of the proper dimensions even for the testudo formation or it would protrude out too much , also I have in mind to remake the Agrippa helmet wich is too big in my opinion....
That is a UVW skinning problem. Are you working within MAX? To correct the problem you need to pay close attention to the vertices assigned to that specific area of the texture. The UVW unwrap feature isn't very intuitive, but it is the only way to solve that problem. Make subtil changes to the placement of those vertices and make a trial and error approach.Quote:
Originally Posted by PSYCHO V
I agree. Slightly bigger than it should be. I think the biggest problem is the cheeck protections that come out too much.Quote:
Originally Posted by PROMETHEUS
Did I mention that the Italian allies is a good idea? Maybe a unit for southern Greek italy too.
I do not believe that soldiers of the legion wore crests on their helm. Only the centurions. Individual soldiers all having front-to-back crests was a CA "creative license" thing, not a historical depiction.
http://img79.exs.cx/img79/5504/jpg12.jpg
here are the praetorian guards of the early period .... btw this is a slight modified model with a bigger crest .....
no they where used I have other plates that prove that but I don't want to scannerize now too lazy their error was to make it stick to the helmet making it look like a chicken crest , while instead was raised by a small iron thing , and I did this little difference....Quote:
I do not believe that soldiers of the legion wore crests on their helm. Only the centurions. Individual soldiers all having front-to-back crests was a CA "creative license" thing, not a historical depiction.
btw I took a second look to the plates and I saw that the crested praetorians did use the same pattern as the old ones while the other ones used the second pattern I used but now I am a bit confused about the pattern of the first praetorians now , while seems that the scorpion was their emblem later on that is what is depicted on the shield.....Quote:
PROMETHEUS, 2 things must be changed:
- Shield: ugly pattern, wrong shape, too dark.
- Crest: too small and narrow.
mmmmm Now I have a doubt .... the
TROOPS IN ROME
The Praetorian Guard: Since the time of Sulla, Roman legions were not allowed to be stationed in Rome or Italy, but in 27 BCE Augustus founded a new, elite organization, the praetorian guard, to serve as a permanent bodyguard for the emperor. There were originally 9 cohorts, 3 of whom were stationed in Rome with the rest in nearby towns. Under Tiberius, all 9 cohorts were garrisoned in one camp in Rome (the castra praetoria), and Caligula increased the number of cohorts to 12. The praetorians were under the command of two prefects (later only one) of equestrian rank and were divided into centuries in the usual manner. Service in the guard was easier and more prestigious than in the legions, and praetorians were paid 2-3 times more than the legionaries. As can be seen from the statue at right, their armor was similar to the dress uniform of earlier Republican troops, with molded leather breastplates and helmets with visors and crests. To learn more about the praetorians, visit the Praetorian Camp in Region VI of VRoma, either via the web gateway or the anonymous browser.
on the plates I modelled what i saw , but from his pic seems that the praetorian guards are more similar to the urban cohort CA made.....
http://www.vroma.org/images/mcmanus_...praetorian.jpg
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http://www.livius.org/a/1/romanempire/praet_guard.jpg[/IMG]
The Urban Cohorts: When Augustus instituted the office of city prefect (praefectus urbi), he also established 3 cohorts (the cohortes urbanae) to constitute a sort of police force for the city of Rome. These troops were also stationed in the camp of the praetorians in Rome, though they served under the command of the city prefect, a man of senatorial rank. Outstanding service in the urban cohorts could lead to promotion into the more prestigious praetorian guard.
The Vigiles: The vigiles, also founded by Augustus, served as fire fighters and night watchmen in the city of Rome. They were originally drawn from the ranks of freedmen and were not really soldiers, although they were organized on a quasi-military basis. The commander of the vigiles was a prefect of equestrian rank (the praefectus vigilum). They were divided into seven cohorts led by tribunes; each cohort was responsible for two of the 14 regions of the city.
I'm not an expert with Roman military history, but I read in a few books that Praetorian guards might not have been as elit-ish as people use to think, but were rather heirs or people from wealthy families, who never even saw a real battle in their life.
@PROMETHEUS I didn't mean the pattern itself (I'm not a specialist on Romans), I just wanted to say that you painted it ugly. If you'll keep this pattern you must remake it. Please, pay more attention to graphical quality of your work.
Other things which should be fixed:
- Remove the gap in the bottom of chain mail.
- Correct the shape of shield. And it's really too dark. Maybe you have too bright monitor? ~;)
- Something's strange with centurion's face.
- Is it possible to do something with shoulders?
http://img67.exs.cx/img67/8445/qwerty.jpg
[IMG]@PROMETHEUS I didn't mean the pattern itself (I'm not a specialist on Romans), I just wanted to say that you painted it ugly.[/IMG]
may be u can make a better one since i painted free hand
[IMG]If you'll keep this pattern you must remake it. Please, pay more attention to graphical quality of your work.[/IMG]
to me looks good
Other things which should be fixed:
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- Remove the gap in the bottom of chain mail.
that can't be made since the games stretches the pixels of graphical textures and can't be fixed
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- Correct the shape of shield.
this would mean to add more poligons to the shield wich is really unnecessary since it would just overload the game with more poligons like already done with the new lorica armour...
may be you have it too dark? I repeat the screenshot was taken by the non illuminated side of the game by eveningQuote:
And it's really too dark. Maybe you have too bright monitor?
I fixded thatQuote:
- Something's strange with centurion's face.
You mean the Centurion shoulders? Ifi so I guess I could remove the shoulders , but then I should move the mantle and I dunno if I'll be able without touching the skin modifier in the stack pile of the mesh....Quote:
- Is it possible to do something with shoulders?
Don't take the plates too literally. The 'scorpion' symbol looks like it's simply a legion's emblem...
http://www.roman-empire.net/army/pic...-legionary.jpg
this seems the most reliable figuer of an princeps so I will use this shield pattern for all the early legion.....
the new triarii
http://img79.exs.cx/img79/5636/jpg13.jpg
here is a question , making the shield asymmetrical requires 2 ways
1 enlarge the texture size to place a full shield pattern
2 cut some more faces to make the shield hide some patterns and show others
the first increases the size of teh texture in space and so on the game may have some influence making it a bit more heavy
the second increases polycount by a couple of faces more making the same effect ,
the second is for me better solution becouse the first require a complete redraw of the restof the images since have to keep the same proportion .......
here is a pic ........
the question is do we really need asymmetrical patterns on shields?
http://img79.exs.cx/img79/857/jpg14.jpg
I haven't had time to read the forum lately, much less do any testing, but you guys are putting the CA devs to shame with this unit skinning. Great work!
Hmm, Prometheus, your latest screenshots seem not to be functioning for me.
Anyways, kudos to your work! It is quite amazing and very well skinned/edited, and I am happy such people as yourself work with us. Keep up the good work!~:cheers:
~Wiz