I'll use that reasoning.Quote:
Originally Posted by RoadKill
Vote: Pannonian
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I'll use that reasoning.Quote:
Originally Posted by RoadKill
Vote: Pannonian
DonC I remember being paranoid, now he's being very trusting. Correctly so of course, but still. Maybe I'm the one who's paranoid ~:)
I'm inclined to think that's the case. Let's switch to Husar unvote,vote:Husar
I don't see the case on Sarathos, he acts like that as town.
Sasaki: 4 (ByzK, Husar, Tiberius, Xiahou)
Sarathos: 4 (Pann, sapi, shlin,Lemur)
DonC: 3 (Brave, Kage, Andres)
Husar: 2 (Kommodus,Sasaki)
Ichigo: 2 (DoH, Sarothos)
DoH: 1 (Ichigo)
Andres: 1 (Woads)
FesterS: 1 (CR)
gkhaan: 1 (Stig)
Kage: 1 (DonC)
Woads: 1 (gkhaan)
Xiahou: 1 (Xdeath)
Pannonian: 1 (Roadkill)
Vote Husar!
Protecting your mafia buddy now Sasaki? What a better way then to first create a light hearted bandwagon and then turning the target elsewhere.:inquisitive:
1) No.
2) Not putting suspicion on him at all.
First off nothing was vehemently, I didn't ask anyone to join in either, which I would if I really wanted a person lynched, I even stated that I might change my vote depending on further discussion. And then I made really long posts to give my reasons for this and that, knowing that I'd be accused of making long posts and you say I had nothing? So my long posts are just hot air and that's why I have to be lynched? Well, in that case I should just lurk I guess.:dizzy2:Quote:
Originally Posted by Don Corleone
Ah yeah, let's just switch to Husar. He's a good victim isn't he.:laugh4:Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
If you want to be that way, I'll keep my vote.~;p
Since when you have played low profile Mafia thug Sasaki? Thats suspicious. Maybe im rusty,but what i remember,you have always played high profile as mafia with stunts exactly like this.
Your memory is very rusty if you can't remember stig's beer mafia or the brotherhood.
I dont think i played in either of those.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
Just for the record, Sasaki, I generally don't start getting paranoid until several rounds into it. I do get sore sometimes, and I have to remind myself 'its just a game'.
I still think Andres smells fishy. Much fishier than Kagemusha. So, I'm going to make my one vote count:
Unvote: Kagemusha Vote: Andres
Why didn't you already vote me or Husar in your post #228 where you stated you caught me in a lie which is incorrect, as I already explained and in which post you also insinuated that Husar and me are mafia.Quote:
Originally Posted by Don Corleone
Why did you wait until now? Were you afraid to be accused of casting a retaliation vote?
Unvote:DoH, Vote:Andres :bounce:
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Originally Posted by Ichigo
:bounce: is your reasoning ?
:inquisitive:
I'm standing by my vote for Sarathos. Voting for people just because they're active is wrong on multiple levels, and if that's not what he meant, I humbly suggest he explains himself.
The other candidates are being highlighted with fog, mirrors and empty space. Nobody's got anything of substance to pin on anyone this early in the game.
You're acting strange. I don't think I remember you focusing so intently on one person so early in a game. It's usually more spread out. I find it strange. :inquisitive:Quote:
Originally Posted by Andres
No. Frankly, I'm taking it as a given that I'm getting lynched this round. It didn't occur to me until I changed my vote that 4 rounds from now, people aren't going to remember what I said. They're going to look at how I voted and say "well, he didn't really think Andres was guilty, or he would have voted for him". It was a vote for posterity, if you will.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andres
Strongly suggest people get off the Don Corleone bandwagon. He's an amusing player, nobody has anything of substance to level at him, and he just found out his wife was pregnant. Cut the guy some slack, eh?
Sarathos, on the other hand, seems to have suggested lynching people for posting frequently. This is offensive and must be punished. Again, remember that the first few rounds of voting will be more or less random, unless our two mafia residents are exceptionally sloppy.
I don't know if Don C is innocent, but I know damn well that there's no evidence of his guilt.
https://i156.photobucket.com/albums/...ncorleone1.gifQuote:
Originally Posted by Lemur
It's not personal, it's business.
Indeed and Sarathos statement was odd, but I think I've seen enough from Don to stick to my vote for now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lemur
There never is...Quote:
Originally Posted by Lemur
:shrug:
Whew, one day and 6 pages already?
Actually, it would be possible to know by comparing with the last long posts.Quote:
By all means, but you won't know whether it's the mafia's work or the host's blundering.
Back to the matter at hand, I'll vote:Sarathos. Little activity doesn't help the town, unless it's a night. And I don't think Don is scummy. He was attacked for no reason, and I'm surprised at those who jumped on Sasaki's false reveal.
Tally (should be correct):
Sarathos: 5 (Pann, sapi, shlin,Lemur, WH)
Sasaki: 4 (ByzK, Husar, Tiberius, Xiahou)
DonC: 3 (Brave, Kage, Andres)
Andres: 3 (Woads,Donc,Ichigo)
Husar: 2 (Kommodus,Sasaki)
Ichigo: 2 (DoH, Sarothos)
FesterS: 1 (CR)
gkhaan: 1 (Stig)
Woads: 1 (gkhaan)
Xiahou: 1 (Xdeath)
Pannonian: 1 (Roadkill)
EDIT: NVM Warmaster beat me to updating the tally.
false.:no:Quote:
There never is...
There's no evidence of guilt on anyone. There almost never is this early on- it's all supposition.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lemur
Post 225 makes me feel pretty comfortable with sticking with my Sasaki vote. Most of his re-votes strike me as a possible attempt to find someone- anyone who can accumulate more votes than himself.
I have a few people I might FoS at this point as well, but I'm really having a hard time seeing the wisdom in creating a slate of suspicious candidates for the mafia to scratch of their 'to be killed' list this early in the game.
In the 2 TWC games I've played, I found 2 mafia using exactly the same tactics that Sarathos seems to be going for. In the first, I was drumming up discussion of any sort when someone accused me of bullying people into talking when they'd rather keep quiet - he was lynched the next round, my pointing at this scumtell having come too late to stop the 1st round wagon. In the 2nd instance, someone dismissed discussion as smoke and mirrors to obscure the scene - I led the lynch for him, and he too was scum.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lemur
The fact is, the mafia know who each other are - even without discussion, they have most of the information they need, except the identity of the detective. They don't need discussion. OTOH, the town has zilch information save what it can get through discussion, with the cop's reveal as a windfall that may or may not appear. Thus the town needs discussion. Dismissing discussion as inherently bad is a scum strategy, which may work in less voracious games as the mafia can guarantee however many votes they have, versus the inactivity of some townies. Not in this one I hope, so if Sarathos escapes the rope today, I will push for his lynching every day for the same reasoning until he gets the vote.
Well, since Don C doesn't really seem to care if we lynch him, i''l assume that he's probably innocent and Unvote: Don C. I'll Vote:Abstain for now.
I would like Sarathos to explain precisely how he believes not putting pressure on people to post will help the town. Seems to me like it would do just the opposite. :inquisitive:
Unvote: Sasaki Kojiro
Vote: Sarathos
Well yeah, I obviously thought about it before and some others made convincing arguments. Will also stop Pannonian from getting on our nerves. ~;)
I guess it is less likely for a mafia player to be overly talkative, trying to defend lurkers does seem like quite a mafia tactic and i suppose it is best to keep talkative players.
From the number of lurkers in proportion to active members and for the many reasons that keeping quiet is good for mafia at least in the early game, i would also expect that the talkative players are less likeley to be mafia.
Therefore Unvote: Sasaki Kojiro and Vote: Sarathos
I really don't think a mafioso would come out and announce that we should kill lynch active posters. :no:
I look at it as more of a misguided suggestion. It would suggest extreme incompetence for mafia to paint such a target on themselves like that.
Edit: Looks like the bandwagon's on. :rolleyes:
:laugh4: Oh it never fails
Such contridiction, every says to me that I dont post enough, and here I am admitting I am a lurker and trying to change it. Look where that gets me...lynched again. I am using no tactices as I dont know any and I have never been mafia.
Are yes, lets disscuss my previous experience for a second, I thank you Andres for acknowledging me as a title another than 'noob.' In every game I have played so far I am considered a lurker because I dont get enough time to post and most the material that needs commenting on already has been. So when I do try and break the habit and actually be active first thing I say always gets misinterpreted and I get lynched without fail. But think to yourself, have I ever been mafia? No I haven't
I wasnt trying to defend of attack anyone in my post, I was only joking about lurker pride because there is no pride on lurking be everyone seems to have no sense of humour. Everything I post get over analyized and misread and I end up getting lynched.
To all those who keep asking me to contribute and to help, I would if it didnt get me lynched everytime, think about that next time.
In simple terms, my post was simply an attempt at humour and ridicle of myself and the voice my opinion. But you read my post carefully it doesnt say I want to or encourage lynching active plays, you the hell came up with that?
All it says that you dont always need to target the inactive players (i.e. me) cause they have a lesser chance of being mafia. No words or phrases of killing or lynching active people, no digs or finger pointing at anyone, so I think you should all just settle down and stop blowing things out of proportion. :beam:
So Sarathos is getting the noose.
We will see at the end of this game if Pannonian and the others are right about him.
I have never used that tactic when playing as mafia.
I am not going to hand out all my pearls here, but I will slip out one: Mafia's best cover is being in the middle of things, earn their trust and fool them all.
Thank you Xiahou. finally someone you understands me :2thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by Xiahou
P.S. It was never really or ever meant to be a suggestion at all. :no:
Not again..... :shame:Quote:
Originally Posted by Sigurd Fafnesbane