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I'm fighting Pedites assisted by Triarii and Peltastai. :wall:
I'm thinking of just removing all the Extraordinarii from the recruitment in the EDB so I can fight some Romans.
Makedonia has the Klerouchoi Phalangitai, in fact I think they even have their own skin. The only way to get them, however, is to bribe them from another nation.
[ S ]Extraordinarii[ /S ] = Extraordinarii
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Originally Posted by MarcusAureliusAntoninus
I'm fighting Pedites assisted by Triarii and Peltastai. :wall:
I'm thinking of just removing all the Extraordinarii from the recruitment in the EDB so I can fight some Romans.
Makedonia has the Klerouchoi Phalangitai, in fact I think they even have their own skin. The only way to get them, however, is to bribe them from another nation.
[ S ]Extraordinarii[ /S ] = Extraordinarii
any idea's on how to add them to the military colony building as recruitable? :juggle2:
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This is the code I used:
Code:
apoikia requires factions { thrace, greek_cities, macedon, romans_julii, seleucid, parthia, numidia, romans_brutii, egypt, } and building_present_min_level government gov2
{
capability
{
law_bonus bonus 2 requires factions { thrace, macedon, romans_julii, seleucid, parthia, numidia, romans_brutii, }
law_bonus bonus 1 requires factions { greek_cities, egypt, }
population_growth_bonus bonus -2 requires factions { thrace, greek_cities, macedon, romans_julii, romans_scipii, seleucid, parthia, numidia, romans_brutii, egypt, }
trade_base_income_bonus 2 requires factions { greek_cities, egypt, }
trade_base_income_bonus bonus 1 requires factions { thrace, macedon, romans_julii, seleucid, parthia, numidia, romans_brutii, }
recruit "greek skirmisher peltastai" 0 requires factions { numidia, romans_julii, thrace, macedon, carthage, romans_brutii, slave, }
recruit "greek infantry kleruchoi hoplitai" 0 requires factions { numidia, romans_julii, thrace, macedon, carthage, romans_brutii, slave, }
}
construction 8
cost 8800
settlement_min large_town
upgrades
{
}
}
I simply added the recruitment without an AOR, however due to the Type2 governement restriction on the 'apoikia' Its not like I'll be able to recruit them everywhere. I also removed the port requirement for the 'apoikia' so that I could build the Klerouchoi Phalangitai inland as well.
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Originally Posted by MarcusAureliusAntoninus
This is the code I used:
Code:
apoikia requires factions { thrace, greek_cities, macedon, romans_julii, seleucid, parthia, numidia, romans_brutii, egypt, } and building_present_min_level government gov2
{
capability
{
law_bonus bonus 2 requires factions { thrace, macedon, romans_julii, seleucid, parthia, numidia, romans_brutii, }
law_bonus bonus 1 requires factions { greek_cities, egypt, }
population_growth_bonus bonus -2 requires factions { thrace, greek_cities, macedon, romans_julii, romans_scipii, seleucid, parthia, numidia, romans_brutii, egypt, }
trade_base_income_bonus 2 requires factions { greek_cities, egypt, }
trade_base_income_bonus bonus 1 requires factions { thrace, macedon, romans_julii, seleucid, parthia, numidia, romans_brutii, }
recruit "greek skirmisher peltastai" 0 requires factions { numidia, romans_julii, thrace, macedon, carthage, romans_brutii, slave, }
recruit "greek infantry kleruchoi hoplitai" 0 requires factions { numidia, romans_julii, thrace, macedon, carthage, romans_brutii, slave, }
}
construction 8
cost 8800
settlement_min large_town
upgrades
{
}
}
I simply added the recruitment without an AOR, however due to the Type2 governement restriction on the 'apoikia' Its not like I'll be able to recruit them everywhere. I also removed the port requirement for the 'apoikia' so that I could build the Klerouchoi Phalangitai inland as well.
haha! kind sir it appears you have added the last link to the PERFECT Makedonian campaign of mine, I thank you greatfully :2thumbsup:
question about the next level of colony, the bigger one, do i need to change anything for it?
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Re: The Antigonids : A Makedonian AAR
Actually, that is the second level. I left the first level unchanged so that it takes a really long time (4+8 turns) before I get any kind of recruitment due to my edit. If you want to have recruitment on the first level, just copy the two recruitment lines and paste them under all of the bonuses of first level.
P.S.
That alteration will make it so that any faction with Klerouchoi Phalangitai (Ptolemai, Arche Seleukeia, Epeiros, Makedonia, Pontos, and Baktria) can recruit them on the second level colony building.
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~:0 What file is it? ~:0 Export_describe_buildings.txt?
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export_descr_buildings.txt
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Actually Makedonians and Epeiros can recruit kleruchoi phalangitai, you just need a level 3 regional MIC in the provinces that the recruitment viewer shows you.
Anyway, very nice update:2thumbsup:
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Originally Posted by Basileus Seleukeia
Actually Makedonians and Epeiros can recruit kleruchoi phalangitai, you just need a level 3 MIC in the provinces that the recruitment viewer shows you.
Anyway, very nice update:2thumbsup:
yes but that is only in previously owned Seleucid and ptolemy provinces that had the military setup already, as Makedon and controller of the Makedonian homeland it would only make sense to allow them to also have the ability to settle military people into newly conquered provinces.
just my opinion.
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Originally Posted by MarcusAureliusAntoninus
export_descr_buildings.txt
Thx~:)
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Re: The Antigonids : A Makedonian AAR
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Originally Posted by Basileus Seleukeia
Actually Makedonians and Epeiros can recruit kleruchoi phalangitai, you just need a level 3 regional MIC in the provinces that the recruitment viewer shows you.
Anyway, very nice update:2thumbsup:
Really? That recruitment code must have been added at the last minute, because in my game I cannot recruit them anywhere. (I'm playing a version that is about a week before the release.)
BTW, I fixed that bug I had with my stone walls appearing as wooden walls. I just installed the oppida fix and everythere worked right. So at least I can defend my cities in this AAR, now.
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Originally Posted by MarcusAureliusAntoninus
Really? That recruitment code must have been added at the last minute, because in my game I cannot recruit them anywhere. (I'm playing a version that is about a week before the release.)
BTW, I fixed that bug I had with my stone walls appearing as wooden walls. I just installed the oppida fix and everythere worked right. So at least I can defend my cities in this AAR, now.
Sweet, no WTH? type bugs, now fix that bug where troops don't fight back:whip: .
BTW, you still doing this AAR? it would be good if you played till you killed the Romani, I really wonder if this is the longest AAR?:idea2:
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Yep, I'm still going. In fact, I just uploaded the pictures for the next chapter and will write it tonight or tommorrow.
I was kind of getting tired of the repetative fighting with the Romani, but things have improved. The Romani are getting low on money and can't afford elites anymore. In stead they are making cheaper units. (Ironically their 'bad' armies are more historically correct. I'm seeing Hastati and Princepes backed up by a few Triarii, now.) Also, I encouraged the Aedui into assisting me in my war. I bought all of their conquests in Germania and gave them to the indepted Sweboz, then moved all of their armies into Gaul. They responded by retaking Gaul from the Romani!
I wonder if this is the longest AAR for EB? I think there was one back in the v0.74 days that went for months...
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I'm pretty sure that "The Wasteland" was the longest ever, but it's been lost to the sands of time now.
By the way -- been watching since the beginning -- far out AAR, man. Great read.
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Originally Posted by Reverend Gonzo
I'm pretty sure that "The Wasteland" was the longest ever, but it's been lost to the sands of time now.
How is length measured: time played in terms of days, weeks, and months; turns and years played in game time; number of posts; number of words used by the author?
I wish I had been able to read "The Wasteland." I've seen it referenced enough on these threads that it must have been quite impressive. Certainly, this AAR and Chirurgeon's Carthginian AAR rank among the best.
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Yeah, "The Wasteland" is what I was thinking about. I think it wins in just about any category. Though, I've never read all the way through it. It was just before my time on these forums. I think you can still find it around, though it was posted in many different places, like the RTR forum.
And thanks, guys. :bow:
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Chapter 23 : The Romani War (Part I)
The "Romani - Arche Makedonia War" finally started in full force. In Silikia, Demetrios guards the straits against Romani attack as Syrakousai build up a military system, in the Makedonian style, so that they might soon defend themselves. In Syria, his son, Aristotelis, manages the empire and guards against the chance of reoccuring Hayasdan or Assyrian aggression. In Krete, Chrysoloras establishes government control of the island. While in Hellas, his brother, Perseus, moves to Korinthos with an army and prepares to subjugate Sparte.
The family of Nepos Argeades were the ones leading the war effort against the Romani, however. In Illyria, Pyrrhos Argeades boards his Illyrian army on to the Ambrakian fleet and prepares to cross the Adriatic. To the north, Neikolaos Argeades, first born son of Nepos, takes control of the Celtic army and moves along the base of the mountains, heading west. Finally, Nepos and his son, Gelon, take the main force of Makedones and attack the Romani territories directly.
While besieging the Romani city of Patavium, Nepos and Gelon are confronted by an army of the Romani under the command of Marcus Aurelius Cotta, who had been campaigning north of the mountains:
https://img162.imageshack.us/img162/2791/maa992ii5.png
Cotta moves his army just within range of the Makedone forces then halts. To the south the Makedones could see the forces arriving from the city, which was apparently what Cotta was waiting for. Facing forces from two sides, Nepos orders his battle line to reform:
https://img162.imageshack.us/img162/5239/maa995om7.png
With both armies in possition, the Romani charge the reformed line of pikemen:
https://img162.imageshack.us/img162/8898/maa996ry6.png
Maneuvering behind the battle line, Gelon, leading the cavalry, is confronted by Marcus Aurelius Cotta and his cavalry. The two cavalry devisions charged eachother, but the superiority of the Makedone cavalry is soon quite apparent:
https://img102.imageshack.us/img102/3555/maa997sn5.png
Dumbstruck, Cotta falls dead as his cavalry is easily outmatched. Returning to the battle line, Gelon attempts to secure the flanks, but is confronted by elite Romani Hoplitai:
https://img162.imageshack.us/img162/6332/maa999uy8.png
Suffering losses, Gelon defeats the Hoplitai and moves on to the main battle. With the loss of their general and suffering cavalry charges, the Romani brake and flee. Both Gelon and Nepos chase down the fleeing units while the Makedone phalangites finish off the last Romani still fighting:
https://img162.imageshack.us/img162/9206/maa1000st0.png
Unprepared to fight a well trained, disciplined, 'civilized' force, the Romani suffer a humiliating defeat:
https://img162.imageshack.us/img162/3418/maa1001wc0.jpg
With great defeats suffered against the Qarthadastism and the Romani, the Makedonian Empire is once again the clearly superior nation in all the known world:
https://img102.imageshack.us/img102/3776/maa1003rw0.jpg
To the south, the main fleet of Makedonia win victories against the fleets of Kart-Hadast, but they are costly. The Kart-Hadast seem to have had much more experience with ships contruction. The old ships built in Makedonia can't continue to stand against the Kart-Hadast:
https://img149.imageshack.us/img149/9106/maa1006dl7.jpg
As the Makedone main fleet falls back back to Hellas for repairs, the Ambrakian fleet (built in the Rhodian style) is able to moves Pyrrhos across the Adriatic to attack the Romani behind their lines. The landing force is quickly countered by a force of Romani and their allies, however:
https://img162.imageshack.us/img162/6632/maa1007os5.png
With the fleet off the coast, the Illyrian line up on the beach and await the Romani:
https://img149.imageshack.us/img149/2126/maa1008ht3.png
Charging from a distance, the first to arrive are the elite Italian cavalry, who crash into the middle of the Illyrian line:
https://img102.imageshack.us/img102/979/maa1010zg8.png
The Italian cavalry brakes quickly, but soon is replaced by the entire Romani army, who charge the Illyrian line:
https://img162.imageshack.us/img162/7535/maa1011wc5.png
Moving around both sides of the battle, the Illyrian cavalry charge in to the Romani infantry who are engaged on the flanks:
https://img102.imageshack.us/img102/3872/maa1012ki6.png
As the Romani flanks break and flee, the Illyrian infantry along the flanks move to encircle the center of the Romani:
https://img162.imageshack.us/img162/8300/maa1013tn1.png
Soon, the few remaining Romani find themselves completely surround and panic:
https://img149.imageshack.us/img149/8810/maa1015re6.png
The Romani once again suffer greatly due to their overconfidence. Not only did they loose two armies and a key city, but two senators die as well, including First Consul [Faction Leader] Spurius Cornelius Blasio:
https://img162.imageshack.us/img162/8008/maa1018eh9.jpg
Once inside the city, Pyrrhos allows his men to loot the city, during which much of the population is killed and chased from the city:
https://img162.imageshack.us/img162/1653/maa1025pz1.jpg
In an attempt to appeal to the locals after the looting, Pyrrhos orders that the Romani agricultural system be torn down and the land be opened to small, local farmers instead of giant industrial farms using masses of slave labor:
https://img102.imageshack.us/img102/2248/maa1037da0.jpg
Around this time, the king of Iuodaia establishes a series of moutain fortresses east of Hierosolyma in order to garrison Makedone troops and as a refugue in times of trouble:
https://img149.imageshack.us/img149/7207/maa1026wa0.jpg
Almost on the same day as the battle at Ariminum, Pyrrhos' eldest brother, Neikolaos, is attacked by another army of the Romani, to the north:
https://img162.imageshack.us/img162/1316/maa1019mq6.png
Neikolas is forced to rush his men into possition, as the Romani charge across the bridge as soon as they arrive. As the Romani begin to cross onto the Makedone-held side, the Celtic infantry throw their javelin in...
https://img149.imageshack.us/img149/324/maa1020tk8.png
...then charge at the Romani, encircling half their army:
https://img149.imageshack.us/img149/1675/maa1021iv7.png
The encircled Romani are quickly wiped out, but the other half of the army takes up possition on the bridge, refusing to cross, and uses the tight space to their advantage. Forming a wall of shields, the Italian infantry use their superior equiptment, training, and experience to best the numerically superior Celtic force:
https://img162.imageshack.us/img162/6052/maa1022ni3.png
Almost out of desperation, Neikolaos orders his cavalry to charge through the battle in an attempt to break the stalemate. Before the cavalry can even reach the Romani, however, they break and flee back across the bridge. In prime possition and seeing their advantage, the Celtic cavalry charge across the bridge and chase down the fleeing Romani:
https://img162.imageshack.us/img162/4511/maa1023ny1.png
Faced with a superior force, and leading disorganized allies and mercenaries, Neikolaos' command skill is the only thing that wins the day:
https://img162.imageshack.us/img162/6842/maa1024zt3.jpg
With his victory, Neikolaos marches west to besiege the Romani city of Mediolanium. At the same time, his father and brother march south to unite the supply lines between Patavium and Ariminum. Before reaching the city of Bononia, where Consul Tiberius Aurelius Cotta [new Faction Leader] is garrisoned, Nepos and Gelon encounter Romani forces, encamped in the thick forests:
https://img149.imageshack.us/img149/6518/maa1027ig9.png
The battlefield has two clearings with a line of trees in between them, with the Romani assembled in one clearing and the Makedones assembled in the other. The Romani take the initiative and march forward, moving skirmishers to attack the Makedone flank. Countering the skirmishers, Gelon charges them with the cavalry, chasing them into the forest:
https://img102.imageshack.us/img102/1030/maa1029cd2.png
With Gelon off fighting on the right flank, the rest of the Romani force moves forward and attacks the Makedone phalangites:
https://img149.imageshack.us/img149/3871/maa1030zr7.png
Without cavalry support, Nepos is forced to use his one bodyguard to counter the Romani general, Kaeso Cornelius Blasio. Circling around the left flank, he charges the Romani cavalry:
https://img149.imageshack.us/img149/8861/maa1031lu4.png
General Blasio soon retreats, just in time to avoid Gelon and cavalry returning, who charge the rear of the Romani:
https://img149.imageshack.us/img149/5933/maa1032xh6.png
Seeing the rout, the remaining Romani turn and flee. Both senators manage to survive the battle, this time:
https://img162.imageshack.us/img162/5673/maa1034ar0.jpg
[I learned that the battle timer can go into negative numbers, in this battle...]
Fleeing back to the city of Bononia, Nepos corners the Romani forces inside the city. As winter hits, two major cities in northern Italia are besieged by the Makedonian Empire:
https://img102.imageshack.us/img102/8211/maa1035lz9.png
To the south, Demetrios crosses the straights and attacks the city of Rhegion, seeking to deprive the Romani of this mineral rich province:
https://img102.imageshack.us/img102/3765/maa1036hb5.png
And to the east, Chrysoloras lands in Rhodos, seeking to secure the city before it too can rebel against Makedonia:
https://img149.imageshack.us/img149/2651/maa1038gn8.png
The known world in the autumn of 212BC:
https://img149.imageshack.us/img149/...mak212afb9.png
Next: Chapter 24 : The Romani War (Part II)
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I love that picture of the cavalry in the wintery pine forest.
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Nice, as always.
Demetrios not dead yet. I'm waiting. :book:
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Uhhyess.
A long- (well, relatively!) waited update! \o/
And, as per usual, very nice again. You're putting good pressure on the Romani, 'tseems, considering that Gallia Cisalpina is falling under your control, and even the Italian Ariminum is under Makedonian rule, and, on top of that, the invasion of Brettia... Very nice.
Oh, and, yeah, that pic does look cool.
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Originally Posted by MarcusAureliusAntoninus
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Originally Posted by MarcusAureliusAntoninus
Chapter 23 : The Romani War (Part I)
The Romani once again suffer greatly due to their overconfidence. Not only did they loose two armies and a key city, but two senators die as well, including First Consul [Faction Leader] Spurius Cornelius Blasio:
https://img162.imageshack.us/img162/8008/maa1018eh9.jpg
Once inside the city, Pyrrhos allows his men to loot the city, during which much of the population is killed and chased from the city:
https://img162.imageshack.us/img162/1653/maa1025pz1.jpg
In an attempt to appeal to the locals after the looting, Pyrrhos orders that the Romani agricultural system be torn down and the land be opened to small, local farmers instead of giant industrial farms using masses of slave labor:
How did you get Pyrhhos to fight on your side? I don't think you can bribe Faction Leaders... unless this is a different Pyrhhos? Awesome AAR as usual, but I can't figure out what's going on here...
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Thanks.
I liked that picture too. It didn't really add to the story of that battle, but I added it just because I liked it. Too bad the shield on the striking guy is acting a little weird.
Demetrios isn't even 70 yet, so based on other leaders like the original Diadochi, he still has a lot of time left. Though, I have sent one of his grandsons to meet up with him and help him with his campaigns. (And to take over the army when the inevitable comes.)
It is a different Pyrrhos, Pyrrhos Argeades the Crippled, son of Nepos Argeades. It was kind of funny. I had Nepos preparing to invade Italia, then I got the message that his son Pyrrhos came of age. It is almost as if the decades of preparing for an invasion of Italia made Nepos study and idolize Pyrrhos, and then name his youngest son after him. Pyrrhos Argeades isn't that bad of a general, either. Too bad he's crippled from birth.
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Awesome update. Some impressive battles and coordination going on there. Looks like your going to have to drive through Gaul to completely wipe out the Romans. Unless you are content to deprive them of their homeland. Keep it up. Great work.
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Just a thought but what are you going to do after this?? I wanna see you finish off romans but then what?
BTW Love the forest shot:2thumbsup:
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This is the AAR that inspire me to do a Makedonia campaign, and its the most fun i've had with any faction yet!
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Originally Posted by MarcusAureliusAntoninus
It is a different Pyrrhos, Pyrrhos Argeades the Crippled, son of Nepos Argeades. It was kind of funny. I had Nepos preparing to invade Italia, then I got the message that his son Pyrrhos came of age. It is almost as if the decades of preparing for an invasion of Italia made Nepos study and idolize Pyrrhos, and then name his youngest son after him. Pyrrhos Argeades isn't that bad of a general, either. Too bad he's crippled from birth.
Most of the truly great leaders had some sort of personal flaw that caused them to excel. I think it's actually rather accurate.
Along the same lines, I once had a sharp, uncharismatic, languorous guy marry the faction leader's first born daughter. The guy got the "evil-mother-in-law" ancillary right away. The guy became my greatest general because "mommy" kept yelling at him to excel. What made it better was how he got the "Subject of rumours trait." I actually felt bad for the guy... all he wanted to do was read (he had the "cultured" and "bookish" traits). Instead he was off in some dark corner of the world fighting barbarians, while his wife was at home "living it up."
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Most of the truly great leaders had some sort of personal flaw that caused them to excel. I think it's actually rather accurate.
Along the same lines, I once had a sharp, uncharismatic, languorous guy marry the faction leader's first born daughter. The guy got the "evil-mother-in-law" ancillary right away. The guy became my greatest general because "mommy" kept yelling at him to excel. What made it better was how he got the "Subject of rumours trait." I actually felt bad for the guy... all he wanted to do was read (he had the "cultured" and "bookish" traits). Instead he was off in some dark corner of the world fighting barbarians, while his wife was at home "living it up."
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That would suck I would mess around all the time if I were him:beam: get the Bladite adulterer
BTW Marcus love those moves you made with the phalangites, like flys to sand paper:smash:
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Thanks for the comments and compliments, everyone.
With a little incouragement, the Aedui have been helping defeat the Romani in Gaul. Though they could be doing a whole lot more, I think they are going half ***ed because the AI is programmed to team up against the player and never fight an enemy of the player.
In my next update I allude to what comes next. As one could predict, the Ptolemaioi aren't content to just sit in Assyria.
More power to Makedonia, Gaivs! The Makedonians would have the perfect unit roster if only they had the Thorakitai. I sure miss those guys with Makedonia.
There are several historical leaders that were crippled in some way. Like that Viking leader who supposedly had no bones in his legs, or Santa Anna who had a false leg. Hopefully Pyrrhos the Crippled will turn out ok, though thus far all he has done is defended Ariminum. Since I plan on taking the Romani Gallic territories first, I have a feeling that both Nepos and Demetrios will be dead by the time it comes to sack Roma. In that case, I'll give that honor to Pyrrhos, to complete the wishes of his namesake.
BTW, the Romani finally hit the Polybian Reform. A few turns later I used process_cq on all the Romani Italia towns and they were all upgrading their MICs. So hopefully, I'll see some Polybian units in battle before the Romani are no more.
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IMO, this AAR has officially achieved immortality.
great job MAA!
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Thanks, hooahguy14.
Here comes the Romani War - Part II of (what is beginning to look like) V or VI.
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EDIT: Huh? That's weird...