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Re: Capo di Tutti Capi IV
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Originally Posted by
El Barto
How silly. Oh well.
Not really, it's what won him the last game.
If everybody is part of a conflicting attack/defend group, the mafia can't kill. It's a good strategy.
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Re: Capo di Tutti Capi IV
what is so silly about it?
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Re: Capo di Tutti Capi IV
I'm not entirely sure about anything right now but...
Earthling
Seems legit.
Also FoS: ATPG and ACIN
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Re: Capo di Tutti Capi IV
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Originally Posted by
Chaotix
Not really, it's what won him the last game.
If everybody is part of a conflicting attack/defend group, the mafia can't kill. It's a good strategy.
-_- it was my idea but a serial killer took me out... and last game was won by scottish ranger right? or was that cdtc 2...
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Re: Capo di Tutti Capi IV
After careful consideration of the various accusations flying around, I'm going to
vote: Earthling
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Re: Capo di Tutti Capi IV
I wished I lived in the Golden Age.
Giving it up on the Broadway Stage.
Hang with the rats and smoke cigars.
Have a break with Frank and count the stars.
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Re: Capo di Tutti Capi IV
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Originally Posted by
GamezRule
I'm not entirely sure about anything right now but...
Earthling
Seems legit.
Also FoS: ATPG and ACIN
GamezRule, you gotta put a Vote: in front of that if you want it to be "legit".
The Stranger, scottish was Capo II, but I do vaguely recall you having something to do with the attack/defend groups in Capo III.
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Re: Capo di Tutti Capi IV
Vote: Earthling
He seems the better choice to be lynched, out of him and ACIN.
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Re: Capo di Tutti Capi IV
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Originally Posted by
The Stranger
-_- it was my idea but a serial killer took me out... and last game was won by scottish ranger right? or was that cdtc 2...
Muahaha.
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Re: Capo di Tutti Capi IV
Maybe I'm being really dense, but what is the case on Earthing apart from him being a Red?
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Re: Capo di Tutti Capi IV
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Originally Posted by
shlin28
Maybe I'm being really dense, but what is the case on Earthing apart from him being a Red?
It's day one and it really doesn't matter? No one has a real case yet, most people who want one are just watching responses.
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Re: Capo di Tutti Capi IV
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Originally Posted by
shlin28
Maybe I'm being really dense, but what is the case on Earthing apart from him being a Red?
He was the lynch choice even before that. Start back at the beginning of the day and you can see.
Anyway, he says he's not a red. Do you think he's a red? Is he lying then?
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Re: Capo di Tutti Capi IV
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Originally Posted by
a completely inoffensive name
Doctors can protect someone by themselves. They don't need two people.
That is the whole point of ATPG's plan, to get some people attacked and then have those people protected so the wiseguy in the group would eventually become a doctor and then once a doctor become a surgeon. It is a pretty simple plan, that seems to be falling apart at the seems with the in fighting and jealousy. This is tailor made for the various mafia groups and potential wiseguy groups to cause mass chaos.
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Re: Capo di Tutti Capi IV
Finally caught up. Since I just finished college (International Relations, baby!) and am already working, my participation will probably be weaker than usual (Which is nothing great in the first place.)
Two comments: The wobbly comment is very well caught by ATPG. How the hell did you know about that in the first place?
Also, obvious ATPG protection is obvious. As I said, it was obvious. If anyone was gonna get protection from turn 1, it's him. Pro-tip: Leave ATPG for when his networks start crumbling down. Whoever attacked him knowingly wasted their turns.
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Originally Posted by
Askthepizzaguy
Then tell me what my plans are, great swami.
If you can kill, kill.
If you cannot kill, protect yourself.
If you cannot protect yourself, trick others.
If you cannot trick others, fake reveal
If you cannot fake reveal, die.
Vote: Earthling
Taking into account the strangeness of the fact that ATPG knew this, if he turns out not being a communist, then this will later be used against ATPG
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Re: Capo di Tutti Capi IV
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Originally Posted by
hero di classico
That is the whole point of ATPG's plan, to get some people attacked and then have those people protected so the wiseguy in the group would eventually become a doctor and then once a doctor become a surgeon. It is a pretty simple plan, that seems to be falling apart at the seems with the in fighting and jealousy. This is tailor made for the various mafia groups and potential wiseguy groups to cause mass chaos.
tragedy of history... i feel like Tesla
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Re: Capo di Tutti Capi IV
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Originally Posted by
Sasaki Kojiro
He was the lynch choice even before that. Start back at the beginning of the day and you can see.
Anyway, he says he's not a red. Do you think he's a red? Is he lying then?
I just thought of an awesome song request for the Pizza Show! :D
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Re: Capo di Tutti Capi IV
vote: earthling
Apparently we have a communist in our midst? I would just like to point out that if I was elected director we wouldn't be dealing with the Red Menace in Fatlington.
On another note, I find it impossible to hear any sort of discussion over the cacophony of voices. If you wish to discuss lynch choices, join me in my private library (PM me). Drinks are in the globe.
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Re: Capo di Tutti Capi IV
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Originally Posted by
shlin28
If I have two votes, I would vote for ACIN and Earthling in an instant. The usage of the word 'Wobbly' is obvious lynch-worthy, but I couldn't care less if he is a communist. On the other hand ACIN's normaly fun behaviour in this game would not be helpful at all - more backstabbing/betrayals is definitely bad for the town, better to off a confirmed random-er earlier than later.
Vote: ACIN
This post definitely wins the Scummiest-award. Vote: shlin28
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Re: Capo di Tutti Capi IV
No, you guys are all really suggesting the wrong follow ups.
First, lynching one person a day is guaranteed to waste a ton of time and kill very few mafia, if you have to kill one townie for each one mafia to be lynched the next day. Even if you are completely blind to any claims and don't care about anything besides basic townie instinct, you should put a few of us in a tie and lynch us all today.
Second, you're not looking at the right people to be lynched when I turn out town, if you do lynch me today after all.
Chaotix is a start for seriously trying to start his own mafia group. Out of the false dichotomy candidates you're looking at though:
The town will obviously turn on pizza for coordination that is generally helping the mafia and getting people kills on the way towards becoming mafia. That happens on its own eventually, no need to make it an issue out of my lynch, but townies who already wanted pizza dead and want to help the town in general would do well to not lynch me, distant third candidate votes as always don't matter.
Likewise ACIN is his own issue and nothing about his or my identity really confirms anything about the other that people are questioning here. He can be examined and rightly lynched on his own for faking a mafia contact that doesn't exist or just trying to be recruited into the mafia.
What I would request, is that if you lynch me today and he's not already dead, you guys kill Sasaki immediately after you get the reveal I'm a townie. He is by far the scummiest one pushing the bandwagon, far too much effort into this lynch for no reason he's given against me other than that I acted like a townie would act. It's quite possible he knows he is purposefully disrupting townie groups and efforts.
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Re: Capo di Tutti Capi IV
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Originally Posted by
Earthling
First, lynching one person a day is guaranteed to waste a ton of time and kill very few mafia, if you have to kill one townie for each one mafia to be lynched the next day. Even if you are completely blind to any claims and don't care about anything besides basic townie instinct, you should put a few of us in a tie and lynch us all today.
Why don't we just have 99% of the entire group in a tie with one vote on each person. The only person to not have a vote statistically will be a townie. Then the game can end in a day and we can miss the point of having fun with the game.
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Re: Capo di Tutti Capi IV
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Originally Posted by
Earthling
No, you guys are all really suggesting the wrong follow ups.
First, lynching one person a day is guaranteed to waste a ton of time and kill very few mafia, if you have to kill one townie for each one mafia to be lynched the next day. Even if you are completely blind to any claims and don't care about anything besides basic townie instinct, you should put a few of us in a tie and lynch us all today.
Second, you're not looking at the right people to be lynched when I turn out town, if you do lynch me today after all.
Chaotix is a start for seriously trying to start his own mafia group. Out of the false dichotomy candidates you're looking at though:
The town will obviously turn on pizza for coordination that is generally helping the mafia and getting people kills on the way towards becoming mafia. That happens on its own eventually, no need to make it an issue out of my lynch, but townies who already wanted pizza dead and want to help the town in general would do well to not lynch me, distant third candidate votes as always don't matter.
Likewise ACIN is his own issue and nothing about his or my identity really confirms anything about the other that people are questioning here. He can be examined and rightly lynched on his own for faking a mafia contact that doesn't exist or just trying to be recruited into the mafia.
What I would request, is that if you lynch me today and he's not already dead, you guys kill Sasaki immediately after you get the reveal I'm a townie. He is by far the scummiest one pushing the bandwagon, far too much effort into this lynch for no reason he's given against me other than that I acted like a townie would act. It's quite possible he knows he is purposefully disrupting townie groups and efforts.
Any other way to lynch more than one person per night, Mr. Smartypants?
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Re: Capo di Tutti Capi IV
Every townie knows how absurdly bad it would be to lynch me, then you, then pizza, all one day at a time. Despite your claims to be town and not care about dying, you seem to be desperate not to die and maybe you are hoping to hold off a day or two more, but it's obvious to plenty of people you and pizza will die when you have confirmed townie deaths at your hands. The point is to save the town trouble and lots of wasted time.
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Re: Capo di Tutti Capi IV
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Originally Posted by
El Barto
Any other way to lynch more than one person per night, Mr. Smartypants?
Um, yeah. I'll personally recognize that you've given the best justification for a vote against me that anyone has given though, if you honestly didn't read the rules.
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Re: Capo di Tutti Capi IV
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Originally Posted by
Earthling
Every townie knows how absurdly bad it would be to lynch me, then you, then pizza, all one day at a time. Despite your claims to be town and not care about dying, you seem to be desperate not to die and maybe you are hoping to hold off a day or two more, but it's obvious to plenty of people you and pizza will die when you have confirmed townie deaths at your hands. The point is to save the town trouble and lots of wasted time.
I have played this game before. "Everyone knows i am right when I say, blah blah blah." No, not really.
This is what you always do to force something before info comes out. You try to establish the results of something before it actually happens and tell people to act on that.
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Re: Capo di Tutti Capi IV
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Originally Posted by
Earthling
Um, yeah. I'll personally recognize that you've given the best justification for a vote against me that anyone has given though, if you honestly didn't read the rules.
I read them a long time ago. Still haven't explained what your big awesome plan is. I'm half-tempted to go with acin's scheme, you know.
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Re: Capo di Tutti Capi IV
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Originally Posted by
El Barto
I read them a long time ago.
All you have to do is have a tie vote and the Director can lynch multiple people. Nobody can honestly believe it's a smart move to lynch one of ACIN or me today and the other tomorrow regardless (alignment won't even be revealed by the GM yet). That's obviously completely wasting the town's time on lynches.
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Re: Capo di Tutti Capi IV
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Originally Posted by
Earthling
All you have to do is have a tie vote and the Director can lynch multiple people. Nobody can honestly believe it's a smart move to lynch one of ACIN or me today and the other tomorrow regardless (alignment won't even be revealed by the GM yet). That's obviously completely wasting the town's time on lynches.
There are 110+ people in this game. What are you trying to rush? I think that is what people should be wondering.
Very first day to lynch and you are trying to say, 'We need to kill as many people as possible. Lynch everyone on the day when no one has any info!"
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Re: Capo di Tutti Capi IV
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Originally Posted by
Earthling
All you have to do is have a tie vote and the Director can lynch multiple people. Nobody can honestly believe it's a smart move to lynch one of ACIN or me today and the other tomorrow regardless (alignment won't even be revealed by the GM yet). That's obviously completely wasting the town's time on lynches.
Says the man with the 666th post...
:clown:
I'm getting a bad vibe from you, anyway, so Vote: Earthling
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Re: Capo di Tutti Capi IV
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Earthling
Every townie knows how absurdly bad it would be to lynch me, then you, then pizza, all one day at a time. Despite your claims to be town and not care about dying, you seem to be desperate not to die and maybe you are hoping to hold off a day or two more, but it's obvious to plenty of people you and pizza will die when you have confirmed townie deaths at your hands. The point is to save the town trouble and lots of wasted time.
Actually this is not wrong and I do think that tied votes could have their place. (Not now, though, GH should get his hands dirty and make a choice if it comes to that today.) This is the main argument FOR vigilante kills, despite the considerable risk. It will probably not be possible to get all the mafia dead fast enough with townies hitting a few of them at night.
Your argument against Sasaki is pure OMGUS, though. There's not actually anything wrong with the case against you.
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Re: Capo di Tutti Capi IV
with*out* townies, blahblahblah. Can't type today.
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Re: Capo di Tutti Capi IV
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Originally Posted by
a completely inoffensive name
There are 110+ people in this game. What are you trying to rush?
You're the one who wanted to kill as many people as possible the first night, isn't that right?
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Re: Capo di Tutti Capi IV
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Originally Posted by Earthling
Nobody can honestly believe it's a smart move to lynch one of ACIN or me today and the other tomorrow regardless (alignment won't even be revealed by the GM yet). That's obviously completely wasting the town's time on lynches.
The town can form 10+ vig groups if it wants. This is another of your ridiculous arguments...
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Re: Capo di Tutti Capi IV
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Originally Posted by
Earthling
All you have to do is have a tie vote and the Director can lynch multiple people. Nobody can honestly believe it's a smart move to lynch one of ACIN or me today and the other tomorrow regardless (alignment won't even be revealed by the GM yet). That's obviously completely wasting the town's time on lynches.
OK, since you're both completely hogging the thread we should lynch you both. Amirite?
x-post edit: never mind what Sasaki's said, vig groups can always be formed.
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Re: Capo di Tutti Capi IV
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Originally Posted by
Earthling
You're the one who wanted to kill as many people as possible the first night, isn't that right?
Actually no. I wanted to just kill you.
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Re: Capo di Tutti Capi IV
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Originally Posted by
El Barto
OK, since you're both completely hogging the thread we should lynch you both. Amirite?
Lol you should have seen ATPG's game a few months back. I think there was literally like 30-40 posts of me and him going back forth.
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Re: Capo di Tutti Capi IV
Can we get an updated tally? I did my Directorly duty a few hours ago and don't really feel like it now.
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Re: Capo di Tutti Capi IV
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Originally Posted by
Chaotix
Where's Subotan?
We need to get him over here to tell us what's wrong with that picture.
I was down the pub, fyi. What is wrong with that picture?
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Re: Capo di Tutti Capi IV
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Originally Posted by
GeneralHankerchief
Can we get an updated tally? I did my Directorly duty a few hours ago and don't really feel like it now.
I think it is 15 me and like 20 or 21 Earthling.
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Re: Capo di Tutti Capi IV
Quote:
Originally Posted by
a completely inoffensive name
Actually no. I wanted to just kill you.
Many people do, every single game.
Quote:
Originally Posted by
a completely inoffensive name
Lol you should have seen ATPG's game a few months back. I think there was literally like 30-40 posts of me and him going back forth.
That's why I quit last time, to my great regret, because there was no point in playing the game.
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Originally Posted by
GeneralHankerchief
Can we get an updated tally? I did my Directorly duty a few hours ago and don't really feel like it now.
For a few kippers, this kitten could do it. Just post a linky to the latest tally and i'll work from there.
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Re: Capo di Tutti Capi IV
Earthling 26
Mr. Caulking (ACIN) 16
Next closest is Chaotix 4
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Re: Capo di Tutti Capi IV
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Originally Posted by
El Barto
That's why I quit last time, to my great regret, because there was no point in playing the game.
Alright then, I will shut up. I don't want to ruin the game for people.
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Re: Capo di Tutti Capi IV
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Originally Posted by
Earthling
Every townie knows how absurdly bad it would be to lynch me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztVMib1T4T4
Now where did I read this before...?
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Re: Capo di Tutti Capi IV
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Originally Posted by
a completely inoffensive name
Lol you should have seen ATPG's game a few months back. I think there was literally like 30-40 posts of me and him going back forth.
That was fun to read, not. Most of that was just skipped when I tried to read that game. Is it going to be deja vu again? If so i hope one of you get lynched tonight, which seems likely and then the other gets offed during the night and we will have some sense of peace in this game.
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Re: Capo di Tutti Capi IV
The case on Earthling is more than insane, it is psychotic. He says the word wobbly and we lynch him? :wall:
vote: abstain
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Re: Capo di Tutti Capi IV
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Originally Posted by
Populus Romanus
The case on Earthling is more than insane, it is psychotic. He says the word wobbly and we lynch him? :wall:
vote: abstain
So you haven't read anything beyond the issue with the word wobbly, or are you trying to cover for a communist buddy?
He admitted himself he used the word to try and trick the communist. Are you just going to conveniently overlook this fact?
FoS: Populus Romanus
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Re: Capo di Tutti Capi IV
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Originally Posted by
a completely inoffensive name
Alright then, I will shut up. I don't want to ruin the game for people.
Don't take it that harshly, it's not that I don't want you to post, but if we're having a re-edition of that last one I'll just wait until both of you are dead and post only who I'm voting for. If by the time you're both dead I'm still alive and interested in playing I might bother to post some arguments.
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Re: Capo di Tutti Capi IV
vote: Earthling
The wobbly thing is too large to ignore.
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Re: Capo di Tutti Capi IV
Another reason for you two to pipe it down is that we have a couple dozen people with one posts and another couple dozen with 2 and so on. People can lurk quite comfortably with this thread-hogging.
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Re: Capo di Tutti Capi IV
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Originally Posted by
El Barto
Don't take it that harshly, it's not that I don't want you to post, but if we're having a re-edition of that last one I'll just wait until both of you are dead and post only who I'm voting for. If by the time you're both dead I'm still alive and interested in playing I might bother to post some arguments.
I know, I wasn't taking it personally. I just realize that people got annoyed last time me and Earthling argued and I didn't want to annoy 100+ people from participating in the game until we were dead.
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Re: Capo di Tutti Capi IV
Can someone explain to me why El barto and ACIN don't like one another? I feel left out.
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Re: Capo di Tutti Capi IV
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Originally Posted by
Populus Romanus
Can someone explain to me why El barto and ACIN don't like one another? I feel left out.
There's no harsh feelings. El Barto was just reminding me that people don't care for back and forth arguments between two people for very long and I was acknowledging that by agreeing to simmer down with my post count.
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Re: Capo di Tutti Capi IV
My PM box has been cleared, for whoever was trying to get through.
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Re: Capo di Tutti Capi IV
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Originally Posted by
a completely inoffensive name
There's no harsh feelings. El Barto was just reminding me that people don't care for back and forth arguments between two people for very long and I was acknowledging that by agreeing to simmer down with my post count.
Okay, thank you.
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Re: Capo di Tutti Capi IV
[b]Vote: edse/b]
For not defending his vote.
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Re: Capo di Tutti Capi IV
Guiri gonna need to revote for that vote to count
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Re: Capo di Tutti Capi IV
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Originally Posted by
Winston Hughes
The wobbly thing is too large to ignore.
Quote of the game. :laugh4:
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Re: Capo di Tutti Capi IV
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Originally Posted by
guiri
[b]Vote: edse/b]
For not defending his vote.
As I've pointed out, many people have just said 'vote:X' and hid among the cluster of spam that happened these last couple hundred posts.
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Re: Capo di Tutti Capi IV
Vote: Abstain
So... Many... Words...
I'm looking to join a protection group. If anyone would like my assistance, please contact me.
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Re: Capo di Tutti Capi IV
Derp.
Vote: Earthling
Seems slightly more legit.
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Re: Capo di Tutti Capi IV
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Originally Posted by
a completely inoffensive name
Why would any reasonable townie want to restrict info this stage of the game?
And yet, you refuse to give us the name of the supposed accidental mafia communique you received (unless I missed it). It's their own damn fault for being careless, if I had received such a thing I wouldn't hang on to it for some misguided sense of game balance.
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Sasaki Kojiro
What do you think about earthling?
He looks fishy too, maybe I'll vote for him tomorrow.
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Re: Capo di Tutti Capi IV
Quote:
Originally Posted by
a completely inoffensive name
There's no harsh feelings. El Barto was just reminding me that people don't care for back and forth arguments between two people for very long and I was acknowledging that by agreeing to simmer down with my post count.
Because no one wants to read though 15 pages of arguments for 1 or 2 phrases! :laugh4:
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Re: Capo di Tutti Capi IV
So, what's happened so far?
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Re: Capo di Tutti Capi IV
Oh yeah, the Director thing.
Select: GH
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Re: Capo di Tutti Capi IV
Quote:
Originally Posted by
bestrfcplayer
Random vote says: Erebus
Reminder: Votes are not counted unless in the format Vote: Player
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Re: Capo di Tutti Capi IV
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Originally Posted by
bestrfcplayer
Random vote says: Erebus
I wonder if tonight random vig kill will say "bestrfcplayer".
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Re: Capo di Tutti Capi IV
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Originally Posted by
sturmhauke
And yet, you refuse to give us the name of the supposed accidental mafia communique you received (unless I missed it). It's their own damn fault for being careless, if I had received such a thing I wouldn't hang on to it for some misguided sense of game balance.
That's you, not me. I want people to enjoy the game. I want people to be on the edge of their seats not knowing what is going to happen next. I want people to go, "wow, what just happened?".
Spilling the beans on one of the mafia right off the start, doesn't accomplish that.
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Re: Capo di Tutti Capi IV
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Originally Posted by
Sasaki Kojiro
I wonder if tonight random vig kill will say "bestrfcplayer".
I haven't really been following this so....... don't blame me :p
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Re: Capo di Tutti Capi IV
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Originally Posted by
bestrfcplayer
I haven't really been following this so....... don't blame me :p
Then you should abstain until such a time that you plan to follow it and vote with confidence.
edit:
Either that, or just dont let on that you're being random. :laugh4:
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Re: Capo di Tutti Capi IV
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Originally Posted by
Monk
Then you should abstain until such a time that you plan to follow it and vote with confidence.
That was my day one vote though.
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Re: Capo di Tutti Capi IV
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Originally Posted by
bestrfcplayer
That was my day one vote though.
See, therein lies the problem.
There were no votes on Day 1.
I'm gonna go check to see if rfc actually voted yesterday. If not, we may have caught real, unfortunately-not-paying-attention-scum in a lie.
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Re: Capo di Tutti Capi IV
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Originally Posted by
Craterus
vote: ACIN
Great reasoning.
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Re: Capo di Tutti Capi IV
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Originally Posted by
bestrfcplayer
That was my day one vote though.
fos: bestrfcplayer
You cast no votes until your "random" one.
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Re: Capo di Tutti Capi IV
Again, I'd like to restate that Earthling is claiming something very specific and those parties interested--the people who should know--I wish to PM me and see if the story checks out.
similarly if Neri or khaan spoke up that would be greatly beneficial.
also earthling, no need to have multiple lynches first day since the town can easily form many many vig groups in the night.
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Re: Capo di Tutti Capi IV
Didn't Neri speak up already?
Edit: Post 621 Neri claims that he received word that Crazed Rabbit (CR) had dropped out, supporting ACIN claim.
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Re: Capo di Tutti Capi IV
I think ACIN is innocent.
Vote: Earthling
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Re: Capo di Tutti Capi IV
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Originally Posted by
a completely inoffensive name
Great reasoning.
Since you asked so nicely...
You'll always be a question mark which will only serve as an unwanted distraction in later votes. And I hate (hate hate) that "I'm busy IRL so I don't care if I get lynched" gambit.
Also, how many mafia names were revealed to you? If it was just one, I'd make it public. There's no reason not to capitalise on a mistake, even if it was an 'accident'.