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You may also want to check out the Royal Persian Guard, Because they seem to be a little weak also, Because I Usually use them to flank Lydian Cav on the side at usually 50+ in one unit, And they all get slaughterd easily. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...cons/joker.gif
ParthianWarrior,
Be very careful with Lydian Cavalry units ... They are the only nation in antiquity to use cavalry as an assault unit. There tactics are similar to the ones used by the knights in the middle ages. Persians and Lydians became nearly as close as the Greeks and Romans after the capitulation of the Lydian empire and Lydian cavalry was the Persian main cavalry force. Lydian infantry is very close to the hoplitic phalanx and they should give you some trouble.
So if you face the Lydian cavalry units make sure to hit them with your archers and have some camels as a side dish. When your cavalry units engage them hit them also with the camels to the advantage. This is how actually happened and the Lydians lost. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...icons/wink.gif
Antalis,
Though the Immortals were used they were usually at the rear. Don't forget that these were the close relatives of the King ... you don't send them to meat grinder that easily, and you might have to face the heat later on ... it is your own or brothers sun after all. They were used only when victory was assured. ( to claim it http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...icons/wink.gif ). Use a lot of the non Persian troops Phrygians, Lydian, Abyssinian, Skythian ... etc and always make them have reserves. This was the problem of the Greeks they had to fight with all the forces committed all the time and there heavy armour made it very difficult. Expect casualty rates of 3 to 1 or more.
Thanks for the Advice Komminos. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...icons/wave.gif
BTW, I have another question, Sometimes whent he Battles Start, The Persians Line up in a Vertical "Train" Formation, A Glitch?
I been trying to install this mod all day and after hours of failed installs i am seeking for help
I followed the instruction to the letter, and i installed the HTW_mod_install, but i left the visual upgrade from flip out this time.
I can do everything from selecting an age to selection a faction and go on the campaign map. I can build buildings and units. But when i attack another province and personally command the load screen comes up. Now it goes up to about 10% and i get dropped to the windows desktop.
I tried runnning the clean copy MTW i have saved and which i use to copy this mod on and that runs fine..no hick ups.
I tried setting diff. resolutions and looked at all drivers.
Please help and give me a solution for this.
thanks in advance
NSG hi,
there's something missing for sure.
Chek this guide from Antalis
Guide
And install my Graphics pack, that will cover a lot of the missing files in HTW beta.
Dont forget to convert JPGs maps to TGA
This is from Komninos
>>Hi all,
This is for those of you that have some modding experience and time for debugging ... The HTW V.2.1 Beta is here.
Things we are looking for are files missing, descriptions unit behaviour, game balance ... new ideas ... etc
You will need the two map images (TGAs) form V.1.0 and all the portraits flip and Antalis made that go in the Campmap folder. Then it should go with not much problems. If you stumble on some then check for something missing send me a PM so I can look for it too. As the bugs are found I will upload the new files till all is 100% there and good by that time flip would have uploaded the graphical files for it so the step to V.2.1 would be nice and easy.
BTW do it in a clean MTW installation cause several things will be overwritten from the default files (castles at least).
Thanks to all of you.>Ok, with Komninos red light we make available for testing the complement graphics pack for HTW 2.1 beta. This involved historical and web research and hours of labour.
I changed some things from Komninos work and used DBAs
Pictures Armys (http://www.dbaol.com/) and for review panel units a comp. card game(http://digilander.libero.it/zak965/hoplites.htm).
Other images are from ("Warfare in the Classical World" by John Warry). Portraits and stone reliefs from (http://www.phil.uni-erlangen.de/~p1altar/aeriahome.html).
Install/Unzip inside "Medieval - Total War" directory. BackUp before Monofont folder(experiments on tweeked mtw fonts with classical style)- Also the work for Portraits its not complete, follow instructions from Antalis in the posts, but no problems here, you may overwrite. Maps are in Jpgs, need convertion to TGAs.
All the rest will overwrite files with equal names.
We'll apreciate feedback, in Letring and fonts displacement problems, aspects of graphics, sugestions, etc. Review panel buildings icons will be changed in next patchs, its a huge work. Here we have just the 10 casttles available for the mod. Agents pieces have the principal characters. In futur all events and info parchments will be new.
Thanks
hi NSG:
This I have written in the TWC forum:
If you want to play the beta:
Beta 2.1
flips Graphic pack
How to install:
Change the name of the "Vikings"-folder from your "campmap/Portraits"-folder, to "Hellenic".
Then: Unzipp every zip (of the two links ubove) into your MTW main directory (you need a new install of MTW, or a version without a mod) (you need also Viking Invasion).
Then go into your Textures/campmap/Hellenic-folder and convert the "MapTex.jpg" and the "MapTex2.jpg" there (that are the campmap images) with "Irfan View" (you can find it easaly with google) into "tga" format and put it in the same directory.
Then: Ready to play
Forgot this...
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Merry Christmas to all and particulary to HTW fans
Thanks for the help
I can now get on the 3d battlefield from the campaign map. Woohoo. But i get this everytime now:
http://www.xs4all.nl/~huzen/images/screeny1.jpg
NSG i mentioned the fix for this - the problem is the Orthodox (representing monarchies) dont use Royal palaces they use Royal Courts and the Startpos fogot this (poor kom was quite rushed id imagine and fogot to change them) go into start pos for the time period you are playing - look at which regions are orthodox and then change the palaces to courts (eg. ROYAL_PALACE2 becomes ROYAL_COURT2) this will stop that error
I apriciate the help but i am no scripter or i dont know anything about modding, i am a game, i can install the stuff but then i wanna play.
I can only point out what my problems are and i need a fix from you guys. I went in to start pos and oh boy i dont get it.
Sorry for this
Another error i am getting,look at left info screen:
I probably installed it wrong didnt I?
http://www.xs4all.nl/~huzen/images/screeny2.jpg
This isn't a bug of your own making NSG, I also get s with the romannumerals tag on, I believe it's been addressed if it has not already.
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HellenicTw is really impressive, good work, guys http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...icons/cool.gif
My Work so Far
this is the fixed deadpage cord and a Geometric age set up that is fixed for Orthodox - im still working on fixing the AI production im gettin there now just adjusting to koms ratios
Moody:
The link doesn´t work
Ok, besides some minor bugs the mod looks good and i enjoy it but xxxxxxx hell i need massive armies to keep my own provinces i started with under controlle.
here is a pic of the armies i have to hold in my provinces as garrisons JUST to keep it on 100% at normal tax even some at LOW.
Is this on purpose so hard? Do i need to make huge armies. I Wanna attack others and i cant because i need them all to controlle my kingdom.
I play this on hard cause extreme after 1 round i had a revolt and the next round and the next and my popularity was at 0%
Now i know these are not great armies but there huge for garrisons, which should be 200 man big and should prefent revolts when taxes are on highest
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Edited for improper langauge by Lord Of Storms
NSG Please read the forum rules on this please.
ok flip is gonna host it
yes Revolts are a little extreme but they represent slaves upriseings which Greece suffered from - one way to get a good pop rating is to build royal palaces or royal courts as well as watch towers
That´s good, thank you .
Antalis http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...cons/smile.gif
Moody'swork.zip
Here it is
NSG,
can you specify those minor bugs?
Can't see your picture.
I think my webspace reach a maximum of hits LOL
Hi all,
We are close to the final beta.
I have to find the thing with the numerals ... It mast be something from the Heroes file I think cause then is when it started but I might be wrong.
Flip I found the bug with the Corinthians in the Colors folder the file was Corinthians.bif instead of Corinthian.bif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...ons/pissed.gif I also made a series of shields for the colours.
Antalis, can you send the castle maps over so I can zip them up
~49MB rar file is what to expect. There are portraits for all butI have reduced Muslim, Pagan and Northtribs to 20 images / folder to avoid a 100MB file.
Further changes include a Pavice shield for Sparabara and a since shield for Immortals
Sir Moody I have finally managed to find the bug in my behavioural calculation and they look good now but further testing is needed. I found a lot of horses in under developed areas cause they could not produce anything else. I might put the need of a blacksmith and a horse farm for javelin cavalry (Hippies Acondiste).
NSG, Yes this is intentional. Greeks did not like musters thus the constant fighting. On top of general high restlessness factors in provinces (especially in the Greek world) the production buildings increase the tendency for rebellion so you have to build things like Gymnasiums, theatres, Palaces, Parliaments depending on the peoples beliefs (Democrats, Oligarchic...). So build some of the "useless" buildings.
The reason for the revolts you are getting has something to do with the heroes file too. You need to get some of them at the start of the game now you have none. I will try to fix that too.
Something like that yes, but there are some serious limitations so please don't get too excited. I'll try to explain. You probably already know most of what I'm about to say, but I'll make it detailed to make sure nothing gets lost.Quote:
Originally Posted by [b
The idea is based on exploiting differences from the original MTW strategy map and your new strategy map.
When a battle is to be faught and a battlemap selected, the game uses three "region description attributes"("RA" from now on).
For border battles, these RA are given in the startpos.txt file under the header:
//========================================
//Border Info
//Attributes of borders between provinces
//and the maps available to each border
//========================================
For battles within a region:
//========================================
//Region Attributes
//The special characteristics for a region
//========================================
The RAs are:
1) COAST/INLAND
2) Landscape: PLAINS/FLAT/HILLY/MOUNTAIN
Borders has some additional.
Ex:FLT2HLL; Flat to Hilly.
3) NO-RIVER/RIVER
Based on a combination of these RAs, the game selects a battlemap that have names like for example:
flatinland01
flatinlandriver03
flattohillsinland02
flattohillsinlandriver03
hillycoastal08
etc.
By looking at their names the connection between the RA and the battlemaps become evident.
When two or more regions/borders use the same combination of RA, they randomly select among the same group of battlemaps with a given name.
And here comes the key:
As you are using a new strategy map you are maybe using a given combination of RA only once, or not at all.
1)If you are using a RA only once, let's say: INLAND, FLT2HLL, RIVER, you can save your historical battlemap into all maps with the name: flattohillsinlandriver0*.
Or maybe even better, you can save your historical battlemap as one of them, so that you only sometimes fight on historical ground. After all you are changing history in this game
2) If a given RA combination is not used at all, you can give this RA to a region/border you want a historical battlefield for, and name the battlemap accordingly. The "only" problem with this is that the description of the landscape won't be correct when playing, but there may be some solutions for this as well.
When I glanced threw the HTW startpos.txt file I particularly noticed that you have no rivers. This means that every RA combination including RIVER is free to use
The description "River" you get when playing(strat.map) can probably be changed to something like "Historical battlefield" in some Loc.txt file.
As you probably understand, this is not a perfect solution, but it's the best I can come up with.
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Good cheer to you all
Finaly finished work for a few days over the christmas hols
I've loaded the 2.1 beta files great menu pages map is alot clearer,but I crash every time I right click on a state can't set taxes etc without crashing States seem to be in the wrong places, have I mucked up the install
Any help would be great
@Norseman:
Yes, that´s possible.
To add a few historical maps would work.
Its a pitty that it doesn´t work also with more then a few maps.
Yeah some maps like Marathon would be good, lets see.
Its a useful suggestion.
We havn´t used the definition "flatinland" till now. River-defintion would not be good, because we trying to add some rivers.
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Antalis
new pic:
Thanks Sir Moody for fixing the dead body problem http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...cons/smile.gif
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Is there anyway for me to reduce the uprissings in the mod manually in the files? cause i am getting sick and tierd of the low popular % in the provinces. I have a Garrison of 1700 and more in each and still there revolts.
I wanna use the 5000 soldier i have to conquer greece not bring down revolts.
Hi all,
I know the problem with the Rebelions are big BUT I hvae not tasted it yet ... my garisons are 5 - 6 units in the new provinces but I always build border forts and other buildings that will reduce the effect.
I will see at the moment you can reduce these numbers at the startpos file.
SetAttributes:: ID_LANDREG_02 "Corcyra" 2 CATHOLIC_CULTURE ARID AT_SOUTHERN_EUROPEAN -1 161 "Akropoli_of_Cassiope" COAST HILLY NO_RIVER TRUE
ID_LANDREG_02 "Corcyra" 2
Another way to keep revolts down is to have your spys kill off the low loyalty generals lower your tax when you go raiding build temples or if your sick as you say alter the hellenic build prod2 file and increase the happiness value when you build a tavern for example.
But don't forget this is a beta and changing files or values won't help the people who wrote it your testing the Beta for them any short comings will be change in the final version of the mod
Great mod keep it coming http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...ons/cheers.gif
Okay, i tried out the mod.
VERY fun but a few things...
WAAAYYY too many ships. I find it impossible to attack an enemy fleet because its surrounded by other fleets from every faction, in every ocean. Playing as sparta, this is very frustrating as they tend to invade my spartan-training provences.
The rebel thing is very frustrating too. Maintaining large garrisons and building is very hard to do, and i find it impossible to invade another faction without having 3000 man rebellions every province i move. I have to hire a lot of troops to keep the loyalty up and it costs too much money and time and it just looks pretty chaotic in general. I know it was historically correct and whatnot, but I think it goes a little overboard in terms of gameplay. I know building the buildings helps, but building buildings takes many years... and until then i have to garrison the province until they're finished, and then i get invaded the minute i move out and all the buildings i built are destroyed and looted. Gah.
When i assault forts, i look on the map and the 'fort' is a giant 3 walled citadel Is this intended as of now? And some maps are just random plains, but thats probably because the maps arent finished yet.
Otherwise, VERY fun. I fought a last-stand defence against 2 allied factions in one battle, them numbering 7,000+ and me with about 1500. Very fun, and its cool how theres a huge concentration of corpses where the main hoplite battle took place. And chasing skirmishers is always a pain.
Antalis, assalting forts gives a default flat map. Why?
I guess its because of the castlenames in that beta: The numbers are not fitting to the new techtree.
That is fixed in the new beta with the new names of the castles.
btw: komninos: When can you send me the final startpos.txt?, so that I can finish the changing of the rivermaps-names?
Please send it than to me via e-mail or upload it to my server.
Also the final "changes"-txt (if you had changed something) so that I can add my historical battles descriptions.
Do you have a fixed file? I'd like to try.
Another thing. Is it possible to build a Historical Campaign with the new maps and put triggers to chain a set of battles?
Persian Wars/Peloponnesian War/Thebes vs Allies/Xenophont and the 10000/
Yes that´s possible.Quote:
Originally Posted by [b
I havn´t tried it yet, but it seems not very difficult.
I have historical battles for a persian campaign (3 maps: Marathon, Thermopylae, Plataeae) and maps for a Macedon rise campaign (Chaironeia, Issus, Gaugamela, Granikos) (but I would need this sarissa units and cavalry. So I don´t know if I´ll release this Macedon Historical-Campaign with this version).
A small problem is, that with 300 Spartans the possibilty to die at Thermophyle (like it was in real history) is high and then to have success to come to the next map?
Maybe I give them more, lets see.
What do you think: Should I try to add historical campaigns or should I let them seperate as historical battles?
Or should I make both?
btw: Today I have made a map (not the hist battle yet) of Sphakteria (Peloponesian war).
Hello everyone,
I just wanted to post and say that I LOVE this mod. And many thanks to the people making this mod possible.
I just wanted to mention some tips for helping people with this province happyness problem. Many of the things you can build (improved farmland, mines ,and traders), lower your happyness rating. These buildings make you people work harder, and thus they are very unhappy (improved farmland 4 has a -80 happyness rating). So, dont always worry about building the things that give you a higher income, they will make your poeple the most unhappy. In my opinion, building a couple levels of traders is the best route, you can make a ton of money from trade.
Another thing that can help your happyness rating is using mercenaries. I usually hire a TON of them and use them to garrison my provinces. Most of them have a fairly low support cost. Some times if you have enough of them and you are able to raise your tax level from "high" to "very high", they will more than pay for themselves. By using them to raise your tax level, you can profit from hiring them.
Good luck everyone, I hope that helps some.
OK...
Antalis and Sir Moody ... I have a problem with relaying at the PMs http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif but this will answer most of your questions.
Till further notice ... DO NOT try to download the mod files the links will be permanently down ... At least the links that were till now ... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...icons/wink.gif
itkotw,
mercenaries were used a lot for garrison prepossess ... but not in high numbers ... I will have to raise there support cost then http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...icons/wink.gif
Antalis, Yes the Maced units will be out some time after the official V.2.1 so wait a bit ... and Yes King Philip first used the Sariza so they did have them.
OK ... it started ...
2 more hours to go ... and a 54.3MB of a rar is in the pipeline
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ok, I´ll try to add the Persian wars historical battles to a campaign and will release the Macedonian battles with a later update.
Currently I´m working on some Peloponesian war battles.
I was very buisy today and made 4 battlefieldmaps for it: Spharkteria, Amphipolis, Delion and Mantinea.
I will add these battlefieldmaps also to the normal maps, so the mod has than 84 landscapes.
Good Antalis,
can you chain historical battles? The maps are ready so, I looked to the guides available but I'm green yet on this. Lets try to chain some campaigns to test. You may begin with Marathon, Thermopylae and Platea. I could pass you resources for that. If it works we may go to Peloponesean war. For Macedonians I think we'll need to wait for a upgrade from Komninos. He as plans for that.
For Thermopylae I have a clue. They were surrounded by a force of 10000 Imortlas, just because the Phocians leaved is position on mountains to prevent outflanking. And if the Phocians prevailed there...? Maybe two parts for Thermopylae.
Other thing, what about siege machines? This was a must in greek wars. We have Siracusae as an example.
If the system still shares similarities with Shogun you could have Thermopylae part 1 been the fight with the Phocians involved, and then you could have two other possiblities linking from whether you win or not, if you win you could have extra troops in the battle against the immortals, if you lose you are without the Phocians as an extra troop, just an idea.
Hi all,
The time is 2:20 EET (East European Time)
The
BETA - 2 of HTW V.2.1 is out ... at last
Thanks to all that helped ... Sir Moody ... I think I forgot to mansion you for the Deadpage coord so thank you too (I will add it now for the final sorry) http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...icons/wave.gif
The effect of the buildings has been reduced for the revolts. Ships are in it and looking good. All os flips Stuff, ...
One more thing this should play OK ... extract the files in the MTW main folder And Transform the JPG map files to TGAs with ACDSee or Irfanview
Thanks ... I will go get some sleep now.
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Thermopile is a bit problematic one ... you have to loose the battle AND your King (To full fill the prophesy from Delphi ..."Sparta has to loose a King or it will fall"). You can't move forward in a Historical campaign if you loose ... I think ...
Here is the line from the Historical Camp files.
//results
Result::1, alliances 5, style DEFEAT
Result::2, alliances 5, style VICTORY, end COMPLETED_UNLOCKED
You can link a defeat to another battle, it was possible in Shogun to do this and by this brief look at the files it is also possible in MTW.
i downloaded HTW 3 days ago. This beta 2 has more content, correct?
id play the mod but basicly im a lazy sod and like self installers......
*hint* *hint*
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Komninos http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...ons/cheers.gif
Tested a little, no problems till now.
Just put that http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...cons/angry.gif Deadpage Coords in the right place or we'll get mad forever with that, lol http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...icons/cool.gif
...textures/Men/
Nice work, where's the closest bar? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...ons/cheers.gif again
Komninos
I Downloaded your beta 2.1 also moody's work with Flip's 2.1
after a little problem with a left over viking file I've play it 4 some time just one or two missing things which by reading the posts you've put right or made better I would like to thankyou for a great mod your work along with Flip's and others sorry don't know all your names is just great makes me want to start looking at mods in a big way TotalWar is endless with this type of input from people like yourself.
Once again cheer's keep it coming http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...ons/cheers.gif
flip:
I´m grateful for every resource you have or can find.
The most important things are strategic maps with units listed (specialy for the Peloponesian war).
Also if I would make a Anabasis Campaign: Could you list (maybe I read the book again, lets see) of the battles there and where they were? I know only of Kunaxa (I guess), maybe with lists of factions (tribes maybe), leadernames and unit-lists?
But I believe that there were more small guerilla attacks from triebs in mountains then large battles.
About Thermopylae: I don´t beliefe that I can make it that if I loose then I can go to the next map, this is hardcoded I guess.
Don´t know a solution, without writing the history absolutly new.
About siege-weapons: At the moment there are none, did the greeks have such weapons?
If yes, I would also agree to implementate such weapons.
Also some battles were won by Athen and some by Sparta in the Peloponesian war.
So give them the exact same troops like it was in history?
It would be strange to play some time Sparta and the other time Athen.
One thing: We have forgotten to write in the readme that you have to copy all images from the "Arid" (in Battles/MapImage) -folder (from the download. That means after you have installed the mod) and put them also in, at least, the "Temperate" folder.
If you don´t do this then you get the false castlemap-image with "temperate" terrain provinces.
(The same thing will be than with the landscapes later).
I havn´t made a temperate-folder because of the size, but I will make it next time for the landscapes.
About the ship icons: Could you make new ones?
The MTW ship icons don´t fitting to HTW.
Look at the links for images, I posted few sites back at the thread.
http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...icons/wave.gif Bug report the unit descriptions of Persian Units are missing.Zimoa
Antalis,
Thanks ... It looks like I forgot to include them ... I will zipthem up and make a small patch for them.
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OK ... this was a fast one ... so
Ships are in place and Deadpage coords moved to its place.
small patch
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Knight_Yellow, a zipped file and an installer are very similar things ... the difference is the installer has the code to auto extract the files ... the transformation of the TGA ... sorry I don't think it can be done with out increasing the download size ... it is ~56MB by now.
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ChErNoByl, This is close to the two files you downloaded some time ago but has many new things ... this is close to the final.
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zimoa, The descriptions are in there ... I think there is a problem with Persian horse archers most probably I reached the maximum os units ... I will have to delete the MTW descriptions probably.
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Antalis, siege-weapons existed ... they were a Greek invention among other things ... they were first used by the Syracusians but then their use spread. The first "Gastrafetes" appeared after the "Mods End" so in the update with the Macedonians ... there will be.
Komninos, found the problem for the descriptions in the Loc/Eng/Descriptions folder you forgot the _desc extensions for your Persian units when you add them the descriptions will be fine.Zimoa http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...icons/wave.gif
The weapon positions for the Skythan warband should be fixed.
Ha, I defended Thermopylae
It was a fight to the bloody end and the end was victory
Hundrets (no, nearly thousends) of persians attacked my 300 Spartans and most were killed.
The few that had survieved of my fearful Spartan Holites were so tired that it was very difficult to fight.
The unit of King Leonidas had high cassualties (only 6 with the king survieved).
Behind my lines new persian armies arrived and prepared to attack.
Before that happened I killed the persian king and marched on the hill behind the narrow and hold it
The coward persians that had survived ran away after a short fight on the hill
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ive found a small bug it may just be me
Lydian Archers crash the game when it is loading the battle - no error message just a plain crash to desktop so i cant narrow down what is wrong
and another - the Startpos for Orthodox regions in Geometric still has the wrong labels - the still say Royal Palace not Court and so are giving the same popup errors
same as with the lydian archers either armed slaves or Slaves cause the game to crash during loading of the battle...
yea when i invade the northern barbarian provinces the game crashes on loading of battle.
And it seems the AI likes to build... a LOT of cavalry. I don't see aNY hoplites from them, just thousands upon thousands of those annoying javalin cavalry, getting chased across the map by hoplites which have nothing else to do.
Also missing some portraits for Northtrib kings
ChErNoByl:
Could you explain which province it was exactly?
All babarian provinces?
Don´t know. I´ve tried some and they worked.
PLEASE if you install this new Beta:
Use a new installation of MTW+VI and after that install the beta. Do not install it over the old Beta.
Maybe this causes some problems I guess.
ok ill give that a go
yea thats probably the problem. it was working fine before i installed the new beta.
yeah mine works fine now - a quick question - what is with the high support of the Polimites and Hoplites? u can barely manage the starting units let alone grow armies and because of this cant attack at all ... without building hordes of light infantry (and i meen hordes)
Antalis ,they need to copy,paste the portraits/hellenic/catholic folder over the orthodox folder if they want all greek portraits right? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/pat.gif
Zimoa
When there is a shipwreck in the game i get a fault message like "cannot read firegalley" or something. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/eek.gif
No, that doesn´t work.Quote:
Originally Posted by [b
Antalis http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...cons/smile.gif
i spoke too soon - lydian archers still crash the game as do armed slaves (was able to narrow it down)
a few other points
1) Slave Fanatics Have too many people in them - when an uprise occurs the game freaks and only assigns them in groups of ten - this will only happen in upriseings
2) In uprisings 70% + of the enemy will be slingers....
3) Northan tribes produce all cav
4) Due to high cost ships and men Greek states are in debt from the word go and cannot really get out of it - makes the AI loopy (crazy, mad, unbalanced in the head etc)
Sorry,i mean first deleting all the portraits of the orthodox folder and then copy/paste the catholic folder works fine in my games.zimoa
Now my game works even worse. I had to reinstall MTW and VI and the patch and then HTW. But now, i'm on the campaign map on a new campaign. I press end year, it says thinking, and once all the computers take their move it makes that hammer sound and then my game crashes.
Does that over and over and over...
4 years for a hoplite???? Thats to long, I think. 2 or 3 are enough.
In the game a saw a ship on land. I think it was the symbol for an assasin or spy. I don't know. Please fix this.
Yes you´re right.Quote:
Originally Posted by [b
I´ve tried it with Proclassic and Classic and Athen and it crashes when you turn to another year.
We try to fix this.
I don´t think that it has something to do with portraits as I thought before.
@komninos:
I guess it has something to do with the startpos.txts of Prcolassical and Classic.
I've had same problem on my system it's down to that Royal palace issue,I think. Try pressing the space or esc key after you've here'd the Hammer sound when the pc has finished or hung up on thinking,also check if you've rplaced or rename the viking folders the game crashed for me until I found a viking map file still in the Texures/campmap/Hellenic folder hope in some little way this helps http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...ons/cheers.gif
Sorry for or the problems but this one had very few changes from the original files plus the ones made from flip ... I can't figure out the problem ... and the thing is at mine it has totally different behaviour.
OK lets take it from the top:
The Geometric (Early) has some problems in it ... It has been fixed and I will post it soon along with other things
Can't figure out the end-of-the-year CTD ... it should not happen
At my copy none of the units cause a CTD ... Strange CTDs happen when the LBM files are missing I will check again.
Shipwreck descriptions have not been placed so don't expect them ... I will make them soon.
I will have a look to Slave Fanatics ...
Yes ships cost too much ... I will lower them a bit.
uprisings and Jav cavalry are getting on my nerve ... I will see what I can do for them.
I have added one historical campaign together: Persianwars.
Only the description is missing till now.
This campaign is very difficult, but I´ve tested it and it´s possible to win.
3 maps are in it: Marathon 490 B.C.
Thermopylae 480 B.C.
Plataeae 479 B.C.
Its a pitty that I can´t make seabattles: Salamis... .
btw: Has anyone good links to tactical maps of historic battles with unit-lists (specially for the Peloponesian war)?
One question: Should I release this campaign (and all hist. campaigns that I would make) also as historical battles (so that you don´t have to play this campaign to the end to play the last or next map, if you want to)?
Flip
I've being reading the posts about making units ,I've made some new units mainly Cavalry, but can't seem to give them shields like the ones in Hellenic TotalWar It seem to me that the cavalry have being left behind regards graphic improvments do you or have you found a way to give cav shields any suggestions or advice would be great.
Antalis try these sites for battles ie Marathon (490 BC)
Also found picts of Hoplite formations and some shields I was trying to give the cav units.
http://patriot.net/~townsend/GBoH/gboh-tyrant.html
http://patriot.net/~townsend/GBoH/gboh-c3i-misc.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Thermopylae
http://www.pbs.org/empires/thegreeks...ex_html_c.html
Great mod keep it coming
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youone:
Thank you for the links http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...ons/cheers.gif .
The first link is very good http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...cons/smile.gif
There are many battles on that website with tactical maps.
youone,
Making units is MTW moding 101 ... I also started from there. I have DJs Greek cavalry units And I will use them ... just not now. I have to make some more changes to insert them.
On the other hand is that cavalry in the Greek world was used mostly as a rapid hoplite despoilment unit. That is why it is pictured with shields. Cavalry at these times did not use any. But it is something I will take care of.
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Sir Moody, can you check the files if they all go to their place ... I am lost with those CTDs. The main body of the mod remained unchanged and I added flips zip on top of it with some extra files ... I can't see the problem ...
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mzocker, 4 years for a Spartan Hoplite, 2 for a normal Hoplite and 3 for Thebian.
I know Athenians had 2 years training plus 2 more as city guard.
Spartans had 13 years of training so 4 looks well. If you all think otherwise then OK I will reduce it.
downloaded the mod today and I must say it is by far the best Mod I have played yet(no offense to any other modding teams). Installing wasn't too bad and the unit bifs look excellent. I am not too familiar with events at this time period (although I do know quite alot about Sparta from watching a few shows) but this has gotten me more interested and I am going to look in to reading Gates of Fire about Thermopylae.
me and flip banged our heads together a bit and have come up with a soloution to the CTD's that occur during loading of battles - its unit size
the MTW engine has a hardcoded upper limmit on how many men a unit can have - i was playing in large so the large unit kom made was being pushed over the limmit so to speak and crashing - ill be posting up a modified Unit file later tonight.. .err morning (eeek)
the Roman numerals thing is an easy startpos fix im on it now ill post 3 modified startpos's up too