It isnt solved when Yamana feels killing children is the same as killing armed men !!
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It isnt solved when Yamana feels killing children is the same as killing armed men !!
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Originally Posted by Ravie
What do you wish for me to do then? Kill myself, and have all my people do so also?
Yamana Toyosada
The Oda are curious over the reasons for the Yamana-Takeda alliance. What good could such an alliance do to either party? Alliances are struck because they benefit both parties, but we have a hard time seeing what the benefits behind this alliance are. Would both the Takeda and the Yamana care to elaborate their reasons for this alliance, because our only explanation at the moment is that Yamana Toyosada has somehow possessed mighty Shingen and that does sound nigh impossible.
Oda Nobunaga
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Originally Posted by AggonyDuck
Oda, It is because of the strategic locations we have.You may not understand the strategic locations of our clans, but we do.
Yamana Toyosada
Strategic locations? What worth does your position hold to a landlocked Takeda currently engaged in a massive war in the East? This alliance is as rational as a Akizuki-Oda alliance would be. In fact it is even less rational than Akizuki-Oda alliance would be due to the fact that there is a naval connection between the latter two, while there is no direct connection between your two clans.Quote:
Originally Posted by {BHC}KingWarman888
Our Allaince has a nice bit of Worth Oda. We will not elaborate fully, but we made a allaince after consulting over some scerinocs.
Yamana Toyosada
Nobunaga, you see that if one of the women that the Yamana are slaughtering fights back, the mighty Takeda army shall crush her. We hope this clears up all misunderstanding.
Regards, Date Termune
Let uncle Oda share a nice story with you. It's about a fella who wanted to host a Interactive History and wanted to participate as Austria in it, but others felt that he would have a bias. So to circumvent this he created a new account. Once this account had been promoted, he went ahead and created his IH and joined up as Austria in it. And while he was at it he decided to use this opportunity to take over another clan in here and Ma Teng in past China. But the mistake he did was that he failed to actually create a difference between the two accounts. The horrific spelling is the same, the areas of interest are the same (Gahzette, RTW and VI MP, Chapter House), the style of writing is similar, there is a bad habit of posts from this new account coming up minutes after the fella's and strangely enough he has stopped posting in other parts of the forum after his promotion. Add to this the fact that our fella is known of liking Mongols and it was enough to pretty much seal my suspicisions.Quote:
Originally Posted by {BHC}KingWarman888
It's a shame that we were so harsh on Yamana's peasant killing tactics, because I wouldn't have been surprised to see Takeda do similar things next season if we hadn't made a statement about it.
AggonyDuck:
Nice detective work.
Kage, I've just reread the samurai archives and probably I'll need some more time to consider my ideas... It seems my memory mislead me. But the question on Awaji stays.
In case I decide to change any governor from that list I sent you (since it is not yet issued), will it affect the game?
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Originally Posted by AggonyDuck
You are right about the first part. I wanted to start my IH and played in it,but didn't because of people saying I would be bias.
Now Ducky, your story sounds good, but.....
1. Alot of people here Like the Mongols
2. Alot of people posted in same threads only 1-3 minutes after I have in other threads, incluing and not including the ones your mention.
3.Alot of people ONLY post in a few parts of the Fourm. Some People only Post in the Front/Backroom and that it,with a occsonial post or 2somewhere else.
4. Alot of people here got Bad Spelling. If you can try to resarch me here, you can go research other parts.
5.I don't usally post in VI MP anyhow Chief. Not for awhile I don't think.
6. How do you know it not someone trying to frame me? So ok, if it is, I fell for it. I had people in the past try to frame me Ducky. I played MP long enough and sadly made some enemy that would do so, and I got some ideas who. Don't Believe me? Fine,believe what you like.
But isn't raiding Towns a way to weakn your enemey?
Yamana Toyosada
Just my suspicion, that's all. Can't prove it though. Yes a lot of people might have some of those things, but that exact combination isn't exactly commonplace. Either way the only thing this has done is remind me how petty I truly am, which I suppose is a very good thing.
Trust me, if it was really me as MaddenKhan2, I would have posted and responded to you already as Him, and 2, and trust me, I would have did a better job in covering myself up if I actually was doing this Ducky.Quote:
Originally Posted by AggonyDuck
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Originally Posted by AggonyDuck
So Ok, AggonyDuck. I been Friends with Warman on RTW/MT2W when we did some games online a few months ago. He asked me to join BHC, I declined, but I asked if he had a clan fourm. He said not a good one, and told me to join .org. I came here, joined here, and tag along with him in alot of the areas because he been a good friend towards me. I'm sorry if I made him look like he owned my account or something. I know I got bad spelling to, and got a interset in Mongols also, but so do alot of people lol.
How about, any more talk of this goes into PM, so we can stay on topic in here :-)?
Waiting information about the heirs of the repectfull clans and governors of their provinces from following clans: Amako, Chosokabe, Asai, Satake and Uesugi.:bow:
Message from Imagawa:
My mind suffers from the ruthless ambitions of all the tiny local leaders and my heart is bleeding when I look at our once so great nation. Therefore I decided to retire and to gove my power and the concern for my clan into the hands of my old, honorable and respected friend, the leader fo Hojo. May he be the one to unite our country and to give peace and greatness back to our people.
Imagawa.
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Originally Posted by Franconicus
Franc, i really do hope you are not quitting. But if you are, it was great having you in the game. It would be great loss for this interactive to loose veteran like you, but if you are leaving. I would like to thank you for participating in this game. I really hope that your decision is not based o the very hard campaign Imagawa have had during these first years. You can ask anybody if they have had an easy game. I doubt anyone would say so. My intention has been to make this IH a struggle for the players. If it would be easy, it would end in few years, which would be nothing like the history of the period was.:bow:
An easy game? Please, you're talking to many 17th Century (Legio's or should I say Rodion's) alumns. I don't want to see an 'easy' IH! Neither does the King of Fr...The former Imagawa leader!
I agree, it's fun because it's challenging. When you find you enjoy being defeated, then you know you've found a great game.
In any case, I wonder what this turn of events will do for the Hôjô war...
Wo i leave for a few days and all this happens
Could you reply to me... Thanks in advance Kage. :bow:Quote:
Originally Posted by Stephen Asen
Everything is possible, but if its about the change that have been discussed via pm´s its bound to effect the game anyway. Stripping a title from a person inside a clan could have an effect in the game. A happy retainer/ family member, is one who is on charge of important things and places.~;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Stephen Asen
Kage
My family and I have been ill most of this week - I am still off work - so I can't see me doing the heirs etc until next week. I will get my move in today/ tomorrow however.
I understand Kurt. Take your time. If people have problems with the heirs and governors, concentrate on your answers. But i do want those eventually.:smash:Quote:
Originally Posted by King Kurt
It has been confirmed that sadly Franc has to leave us because of his real life busyness, so i would like to thank him for participating and hope that you will return to game when you have more time in your hands. Im taking over Imagawa for this chapter, but its now open for a new player. Clans Ashina and Tokugawa are also available for human player, if there are interest.:bow:
Our Nomination for governors are:
Awa: my brother Miyoshi Yoshikata, commander of the Shikoku field armies
Sanuki: Miyoshi Masayasu
Awaji: Matsunaga Hisahide
Settzu: my brother Miyoshi Kazunari
Izumi: my brother Atagi Fuyuyasu, commander of the fleet
Kwatchi: Miyoshi Nagayuki
Yamashiro: we, Miyoshi Chokei, are responsible for the fate of Yamashiro and the safety of the Shogun in the current turbulent situation
We nominate as heir our son Miyoshi Yoshioki, who is also a commander of the personal guard of the mighty Shogun Ashikaga
Sign,
Miyoshi Chokei, Kanrei and Defender of Nippon and the Mighty Shogun Ashikaga
OOC: Kage, I want to specify several things but they would be a matter of the PM with the decisions.
Kage, are you Daiymo Ashina?
Yes. As long as we dont have a human player to rule that clan. If clan is not ruled by one of the players in the list which is in the first post,then i will control it.:yes:Quote:
Originally Posted by IrishArmenian
I wish to join. What clans are still open?
Imagawa, Tokugawa, Hojo and Ashina.
Kage, your PM box is full...:stars: Since I'll be busy in the weekend, I'll send to you my decisions on Monday. :bow:
Kage, my decisions are going to be late because of Rl. but they will come.
Kage, if possible, could you clear some PM space? I rather need to ask a question.
I'll take Imagawa please. :yes:Quote:
Originally Posted by AggonyDuck
Yeah, it would be nice if you could clear some space Kage.
Kage, could you put the deadline on Saturday, please? I have a test this week and I will be offline until then. :bow:
sorry for the late response, but real life has caught up to me it seems , i have stopped visiting this site totally since some time now ,and it would be wrong of me to leave without leeting you all know, i would like kage to give my honorable clan to himself :P
i will return , in a short order, about 2-3 weeks, if not ill let you all know and u can assign a new player, but i doubt that, Chosokabe is Ma baby and i wont leave her to someone else other than Kage.
See you all later.
Everyone here is leaving :sweatdrop:
I hope you, Fran and everyone else can come back soon Dark :yes:
Oh crap.Il make some space asap. Darkragnar.I can handle your clan for couple weeks,no problemo. Stephen Asen,you mean you want to postpone the chapter for a full week? americancaesar, wellcome to the game. You can start playing Imagawa as the summer turn starts.I will give you your starting info as the next chapter will be out.:smash:
A message to the Shôgun and Kanrei Miyoshi Chokei
Although I do not like it, I am forced to obey the Shôgun's orders on the matter at Ise. We do not have the power to defend ourselves against a coalition led by Miyoshi. Hence I will lower my weapon and withdraw from Ise. I will send my sword with a messenger to Kyoto, to ensure the Shôgun and his Kanrei, that I will not draw it against another one of his Shugo again.
Oda Nobunaga
Message from Ashikaga Shogunate
Shogun is pleased to see that both Yamana and Oda Clans have decided to listen to the orders of Shogunate. We hope this will allow more peaceful future for the Kansai region. Shogunate hope´s that Clan Asai will obey Shoguns orders also, by publicly announcing withdrawal from Ise province.
Open letter from Ôtomo Sorin to the Shogun and the Kanrei:
I am astounded at your stubborn interference in the matter between Asai and Kitabatake. Is it not true that Asai accepted Miyoshi Chokei as Kanrei, while the Kitabatake refused him? If Kitabatake refused him, he also refused the Shogun's directions. Still, you demand that your supporters should cease war against your enemies. Explain this to me, as it makes no sense. If Asai brings loyalty to the Shogun back to Ise, how is this not in your interests?
I have no objections to the war Lord Asai is waging, given the circumstances. The war has been fought honourably, and with everything considered, Asai's cause is righteous. However Kitabatake, while refusing Shogunal decrees, comes begging for the Shogun's voice only when his impudent head is threatened by the Asai. Yet you, the Shogun and the Kanrei, defy your supporters and support your enemies. It is outrageous. Is this because Miyoshi Chokei only fear his neighbours growing stronger?
For the Kanrei showed no interest in supporting the Ôtomo when we were attacked by Ryûzôji and Akizuki, and had our provinces ravaged by them.
Miyoshi Chokei, inconsistency in your role as Kanrei lowers your authority. Why should I grant such a man, driven by partiality to his own interest, my support?
I bet if I and other Daimyô had not spoken up, neither you nor the Shogun would not have cared for the Isshiki issue either, because neither they nor Yamana border Miyoshi provinces.
I demand that the Shogun and his Kanrei leave Asai to their business and redeem their positions. If they do, the Ôtomo will also recognize the Kanrei as the Asai already does,
Ôtomo Sorin
Open letter to the Shogun
Lord Asai will wait for a response from the Shogun to Lord Otomo before he response to your request.
From Shogunate to Otomo Clan,
While Kitabatake did not accept the authority of Kanrei right away, they have not declared against Ashikaga Shogunate and have served as Shugo of Ise for many generations. Kitabatake was not the only clan to be slow to accept Miyoshi as Kanrei.
Which is worse crime: To be slow to accept changes, or to invade peaceful provinces? Is Otomo Sorin suggesting that Ashikaga Shogunate only serves the will of Miyoshi Chokei?
About the situation between Ruyzoji, Akizuki and Otomo. Was it not Otomo Clan that demanded both Ruyzoji and Akizuki to submit to the authority of Otomo, would Otomo declare war, if such demand would be done to them by some other Shugo?
representative of Shogunate
Indeed I do. The lack of conscequence in your actions has proven it time and time again.Quote:
Is Otomo Sorin suggesting that Ashikaga Shogunate only serves the will of Miyoshi Chokei?
The Ôtomo clan would not declare war upon a proposal of vassalship, unless we were overly eager for an excuse to do so. We are not and will never be. We would however declare war if hostile armies crossed into our borders. The words of a rival Daimyô does not harm my subjects without action put behind them.
Kitabatake silently stepped away while the Hatakeyama and the Tsutsui waged war on Miyoshi, he would not accept Miyoshi Chokei's office for the same reason. He would not stand up for the Shogunate and fight it's enemies.
When the Ito-clan of Kyûshû was engulfed in war against Sagara, for the solemn reason of them supporting Shogunal decrees and the appointment of the Kanrei, neither the Kanrei nor the Shogun spoke ONE WORD. One of your few loyal supporters was allowed to be destroyed without as much as a complaint! What did the Shogunate do instead? Issue decrees to promote the persecution of christians!
The Ito were too far away for you to care about, because they were not attacked by Miyoshi neighbours! You use your autority only to support the interests of your master, therefore I do not accept it! I care not if the Ito were destroyed because they were foolish enough to support weaklings, I will however care when said weaklings uses empty excuses to threaten their neighbours! The same has already happened to the Chosokabe. Wether their cause was just or not does not matter, the Kono was supported only so that Chosokabe would not grow into a threat against the Miyoshi.
I'm tired of witnessing this outrageus partiality! I demand that you redeem yourself and remove your pressure from the Asai. Your honour is at stake and that of Miyoshi Chokei. This is my final warning.
To Otomo Clan from Ashikaga Shogunate,
So Otomo accuses the Shogunate of the wars in Kyushu? The Shogunate have to admit that it havent possessed instruments to deal with the rebellious clans of Kyushu for quite some time or support the loyal ones, but hopefully there will be change coming as Mori Motonari was granted the title of Kyushu Tandai. Otomo Sorin should not blame the Shogunate for his own policies to gain full control of Kyushu.
Could it be that his meddling in affairs of Kansai region is just agitation, so he could declare war to Miyoshi in order to invade Shikoku?
From Otomo´s earlier response, should we think that Otomo declares open rebellion against the Shogunate and should be classified as rebel and enemy of Shogunate?
representative of Shogunate
To the Shogun from clan Ôtomo:
I have no personal interest in gaining land on the cost of Miyoshi, but I'm sure many other Daimyô have.
You may class me however you want, you now know I will not look upon either the Shogun or his Kanrei as friends or allies, if they choose to continue with their current policies.
This is not due to my expansionistic interests, this is due to my loud despise towards your administration. I've put my reasons on the table and anyone with eyes should be able to see that they are not groundless.
I'm well willing to submit myself to a Shogun who rules wisely and just. If your descisions reflected the best interest of Japan, I would swear my life to you, after all that is my job. I rule too many people to subject them to the inept whims of a shaky leader. Prove yourself as a ruler and I will prove myself as a subject,
Ôtomo Sorin
I thought it was common knowledge that the Shogunate only serves the will of Miyoshi Chokei, no matter what he tries to say to the contrary. Anyway I urge Asai to join me in my decision. Although losing a year's efforts is a waste, it is still better than fighting a war alone against a coalition that not even an Oda-Asai alliance could hope to defeat. If you pull back now there might still be a chance that a favorable agreement is agreed upon that wouldn't make our efforts an utter waste. Any attempt to fight can only end in ruin and you know this as well as I do.
Oda Nobunaga
Hm,I like to take Hojo if I can.
Isn't two clans enough for you?
Ducky, have you any evidence to back this up? This is a game and people like to have fun with it.
you mean 4? Because mabey Americancasear is mine also? I do not know Moblie Troop, Ducky. Only reason I am wondering is, even though I know Madden from MP, I had 1 or 2 people sign up on my BHC fourm and starting to make some comments, but I put a end to that fast. But just because Mobile signed up, doesn't mean it's me, a friend, or possbiely even someone who saw what you said a week or two ago and trying to set me up.Quote:
Originally Posted by AggonyDuck
I'll look into it if that comforts you.
Nope, it is very hard to find solid evidence about multiple accounts. It is just funny that when the other account I suspected to be run by Warman also ends up signing up for this IH. Too much of a coincidence for my taste anyway.
Anyway, I suppose you're correct about the game being about fun and in the end if three clans is more fun for him than one clan, then he is free to do so as I am free to announce my suspicions about it.
As to americanceasar, he does in no way fit in the same mold as Warman, Madden and Mobile do. The similarities are too great between the three of them for me to ignore. I actually stumbled upon Mobile by accident when checking out if my suspicion about Madden was founded or not, and actually put him down as a possible another account for Warman, which is why I reacted this way when he signed up.
Thats low Warman... real low... shame you got busted though !
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Originally Posted by AggonyDuck
You urge Asai to a conflict with us, neh? Was not Kyoto what you want, Oda Nobunaga? And of course you must pass through Asai. How will you achieve this: by playing the one against the another! Then the two of us are easy to be picked. We admit your diplomacy is very skilful, Oda Nobunaga!
The wish of the Shogun is my command. But the word we gave to ally, loyal servant of the Shogun is too. And Asai Nagamasa still is. This was the reason to ask for compromise. Both sides should receive something and give something otherwise the peace will not be stable! But some people are trying to use to show we are threat to Asai. Is this what you call backstabbing, Sorin!
If you had actually bothered to read what I said, you would had noticed that I actually urged Asai to follow the words of your puppet. I did not urge him to fight you, which would be suicidal both with or without my support. As to playing you against Asai, that would not be skillful diplomacy. It would only result in an even stronger Miyoshi right next to Owari, which is not a position I want to find myself in. Also if you had bothered to read what I said, you would had noticed that I actually asked him to withdraw while a compromise is still possible. It is far better to gain something atleast than to waste thousands of lives in a futile attempt to resist the will of the Kanrei and lose everything in the end.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stephen Asen
As to your hint that I want to have Kyoto, nothing could be further from the truth at the moment. I am not in a position to seize it by force and even if it was given to me as a gift, I would not have the strength to protect it. I have been forced to abandon most of my ambitions and currently my only goal is to ensure that the Oda clan continues to exist as an independent clan.
Oda Nobunaga
Im confused by your words Miyoshi,,, why do you feel i am threatened by Oda ?
Why did you not fear for me when Asakura had 8,000 men on my border? Asakura is openly agressive and Oda is helping me to meet my goals, yet Oda is the one i should fear.
You mix your words miyoshi
And wat compromise's did you offer that were *acceptable* to all parties?
Asai Nagamasa
We of the Miyoshi have no ambitions to reach to Owari! You mean we are ready to attack our ally Asai Nagamasa? Do you mean it is a good policy for me to attack my allies? Who will trust us then?Quote:
Originally Posted by AggonyDuck
Nobunaga, you called the Shogun puppet! Could you realize what you are saying!
Nagamasa, do you think it is good to have as an ally a person who has no honour and uses his ally's armies as a bate? Or not standing on his word when offering peace? Or dreaming for... Kyoto and rejects it at the same time?
Miyoshi, if the Shogun is indeed not your puppet, then he can speak for himself, yes?
You must approve of all his doings, and that makes Clan Date suspicious...of a number of things.
Well, we left with the impression they were asking me. As far as Shogun is concerned, we are Kanrei and we should often make statements. The Shogun, as you can see, speak when he thinks higher authority is needed. The clan Date has always been suspicious to us, we think, since we are Kanrei. We would miss the fact of that alliance you proposed us with quite unconvincing reasons. :bow:Quote:
Originally Posted by IrishArmenian
I suppose the word puppet is the wrong one to describe the Shôgun. He is free to say whatever he wants, but it will only be enforced when it suits the enforcer called Miyoshi Chokei. He might not be a puppet, but he is an emasculated man. A man of words, but no action. Words alone mean nothing without a blade behind them to make them reality. Words without a sword are powerless and a man without a sword is powerless. Ashikaga Yoshiaki is a man without a sword of his own and hence commands neither fear or respect in the men he is supposed to rule over. As long as we are ruled by a man who does not wield a sword of his own, the Shogunate will remain a mere charade.
Oda Nobunaga
Are we still waiting on the decisions from someone?
Yes we are.Im still waiting orders from Asai, Uesugi, Satake, Satomi and Date.Please hurry up guys!:smash:Quote:
Originally Posted by AggonyDuck
I'm waiting for Marshal to answer my PM. If he doesn't in two days, I'll just make another move.
OOC:
Since so little changed during winter, I will wait to update the map to spring.
I apolgies for making the secondary accounts. Deeply sadded for doing it, since I was told by other people I should not have did it. I will not explain why I did it,since it won't help me.
My Apoglies,all I can say. I will accpect any Punishment that is toss my way.
I like to Thank AggonyDucky for catching me red-handed. Because it was for the best:yes:
Also, Take me off of the Jap IH Play List. I am leaving .org anyhow (not because of this!) because of CTS in my wrists, and won't be able to play.
Ok. I hope the thing is settled now and wellcome back Warman,when you get your wrists back in shape.:yes: So Takeda and Yamana are free for an player also. Now to the players who have single account and seem to use it also. Im still waiting for the Eastern Lords and Asai´s decisions. Please do hurry up. I think two weeks cycle should be more then enough for to make your decisions. If i will get your decisions today or tomorrow the next chapter should be up tomorrow evening. :smash:
my answer will be in tonight. srry very busy RL
OOC:
Yes, lets get this show on the road. I suspect the next chapter could be very, very exciting! :yes:
AntiWarman:
It'd be fine with everyone if you come play again I'm sure. But do please stick with one account next time. ;) Hope you get better dude.
Decisions were sent early this morning kage ???
Sorry havent got em. Could you re send them.:yes:
Sent
:bow: Now just Satake,Satomi and Date and we will get the next chapter. I doubt there has been so many things happening in any chapter before.:smash:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ravie
sent :bow:
Edit:w00t! 300th post
'Offtopic'
Kage, could you check you mail (TWC/Hotmail)
thanks
Waiting for honourable Date to reach his decisions. OOC: Wundai, pm answered.:yes:
Moves sent.
Chapter 9. Spring 1562
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Tensions that have been gathering trough out the winter explode,like mighty rivers which roam down the mountainsides, wild from the water melted from the snow of winter.
On cold April morning. Otomo Sorin, the leader of mighty Otomo clan receives a suprise guest. Sorin who has prepaired for a final battle against Akizuki clan with his Shimazu allies is relieved when he hears the news. A retainer of Akizuki Tanezane informs him, that the Daimyo of Akizuki has committed seppuku and the rest of the clan has decided to surrender.
It seems that the struggle over the hegemony of Kyushu island has ended in complete victory for the alliance of Otomo and Shimazu.
While war in Kyushu is over, The shipyards of Shimazu and Otomo clan´s keep pushing out new ships through out the Spring. Otomo Sorin sends 400 koku to Isshiki, in order to help restore the damages occurred during the Yamamna raids on the Isshiki lands during winter. Last Sorin sends 5000 of his men under Ôtomo Yoshimune to aid the Mori contingent in the siege of Urakami capital, Tenjiyama.
During early Spring Mori Motonari decides to visit the old Ouchi capital Yamaguchi castle in Suo province. The aged Daimyo admires the beutifull view, which opens up from one of the castles many balcony´s.
"It was only 5 years a go,when this castle was still in hands of the Ouchi clan. Now its mine, but i wonder who owns this castle after next five years have passed. Well everything has been set on motion and nothing can stop the tide of fate anymore. May Bishamonten save our clan and grant us victory against our enemies."
The 64 year old leader of Mori clan shrugs his shoulders and walks back inside where the sea wind cant chill his old bones.
As Motonari predicted, things start to happen and none by chance. After the Otomo force has arrived to join the siege of the Urakami capital, Mori sends an negotiator to the castle.
Ankokuki Ekei, a monk,senior retainer and chief diplomat of Mori clan, enters Tenjiyama castle on 6th may. Inside he meets the head retainers of Urakami, lead by one Ukita Naoie. Almost, if not as powerfull lord as Urakami Munekage himself, who has been sick and cant join the negotiations.
Instead of formalities Ekei ask´s a simple question from the retainers around him.
"Are you ready? The time has come."
The Urakami retainers nod as if they understand perfectly the question without further explanations. After a short eye contact between Ekei and Ukita Naoie, the Monk says.
"Good."
And leaves the room and the castle.
The following night just before down , all hell brakes loose around Tenjiyama. Every teppo and Yumi bow Urakami can muster, opens up barrage of led and fire arrows against the surrounding army. The alarms sound trough out the camp of besiegers.
As the Amako and Yamana samurai and Ashigarus rush towards the ramparts to fight back the Urakami sally, they are in for a terrible suprise.
The artillery batteries and teppos of Mori and Otomo warriors open up fire from behind and flanks of the rushing columns of Amako and Yamana warriors causing complete chaos. During the early hours of the night the Mori and Otomo warriors have quietly overtaken the key defense positions killing the guards and now the besieging army is being shot and attacked from multiple directions. As the Amako and Yamana forces cant tell apart from friends and foes in the darkness the battle soon turns into a giant rout.
In the dawn of the following morning, the besieging army has been scattered to North and West and all that Amako and Yamana commanders can do is to send their Tsukai ban messengers to collect the men from the countryside. The castle is now once more free, altough the master may have changed.
As the sun raises,Urakami Munekage is found dead inside the castle, a clear cut from katana running from his neck to his waist.
Ukita Naoie assumes the command of the castle as most of the defenders were his men and Urakami Munekage didnt have a heir. So the new lords of Bizen are the Ukita.
Losses on the battle are rather insignificant compared to the numbers that participated. Amako losses are about 3000 men while Yamana losses about 1000. The combined losses of Mori, Otomo and Ukita are just few hundred men. While the losses of lives are comparatively light for Amako and Yamana, the loss of all their cannons hurts the future efforts of those clans. After few days, Amako has been able to rally his army and remains in North Western Bizen the rest of the season with about 17000 men under Amako Yoshihisa. Yamana rallies also their troops and marches with their remaining troops to Eastern Mimasaka the total force now numbering about 9000 men.
The combined force of Ukita, Mori and Otomo number about 20000 men with 5 cannons.
At the following morning of the battle of Tenjiyama castle. Kikkawa Motoharu receives orders and additional men from Mori Motonari in order to invade Eastern Iwami. With the advance he has in form of surprise Motoharu pushes the 5000 strong Amako army out from Eastern Iwami during the Spring months, causing about 1000 casulties to Amako while suffering about 500 himself.
After receiving all the bad news around his domain the leader of Amako clan,Amako Haruhisa falls seriously ill. The doctors are not sure whether the 48 year old warrior will be able to survive his condition.
In central Japan, Matsunaga Hisahide is appointed as governor of Awaji by Miyoshi Chokei. The new governor doesnt reach further then Sakai in Settsu as he receives grim news from his new province. It has been overrun.
Japanese Wakou pirates have been observing for quite some time that the garrison of the island has been diminishing and during night of may 4th, a thousand strong Wakou party, with 10 ships, surprise the small and isolated garrison, thus taking control of the whole island. Matsunaga Hisahide reports the news to his master and waits for orders, how to proceed with the situation.
In Ise. The proud Kitabatake clan have survived the winter confined in the inner defenses of Anotsu castle. After diplomatic effort trough out the winter, Kitabatake Harumoto is hopefull for relief force to arrive. On early April, a part of besieging Oda army marches away to the North, thus giving hope to the defenders that Oda or Asai has been attacked by some third party. After week of waiting suddenly the large dark green flags of Miyoshi appear in the western horizon. A battle ensues and it seems that the Miyoshi force is driving straight trough the Oda defensive line. After some time the Oda camp with its supplies is set on fire.
This is a signal for general sally of Kitabatake forces. Harumoto leading personally the force, quickly runs over the Oda rearguard and moves his forces through the burning Oda camp. What happens next is the largest and last surprise that the Kitabatake Daimyo has witnessed. As the Kitabatake force comes out from the smoke, the truth reveals itself.
All they have witnessed has been a fake fight between Oda and Asai troops disguised as Miyoshi warriors. At the same time the rear guard forces of Kitabatake informs that Iga men that have been part of the Oda army have scaled the inner walls of Anotsu and occupied the gates.
A grim smile appears on Kitabatake Harumotos face and he says with silent voice.
"So be it."
Next he orders his son Tomonori to gather all the remaining mounted samurais and brake trough Oda lines and ride to capital and seek refuge from there. There is no time for argument as the Oda force attacks from in front and flanks of the Kitabatake men. Last thing that Kitabatake Tomonori hears after riding a circle and turning south from the battle in order to evade the Oda is his fathers voice.
"Avenge your father, son! Avenge!"
Kitabatake men fight to the last surrounded by the enemy, they fight back against back in tightening circle. Kitabatake Harumoto meets his destiny after he has been stabbed by numerous spears. Each time he gets up from the mud the old warrior is stabbed by another spear, arrow or bullet. Until he lies dead surrounded by his men on the mud. The women inside the castle are captured by the Iga men before they have time to kill themselves and their children or to set the castle ablaze. The victory for Oda is complete and after long hardships Anotsu castle is theirs.
But only the following morning after the battle a messenger arrives from Owari. 20000 strong army of Asakura and Saito lead by Asakura Kagetaka has marched to Owari and surrounded Kiyosu. The defenders received warnings from Asai scouts, but the enemy was too strong to meet in open battle. It seems that while Oda Nobunaga was successful on taking Anotsu, now he has to think ways to prevent his own capital from falling to hands of others.
During early Spring Tokaido coast between Imagawa and Tokugawa is silent, but the same cant be said about the roads from Suruga to Sagami. Column after column of men march towards the Hojo domain. Same kind of things are appening in central Shinano, while Uesugi Kenshin moves his main army from Echigo to Northern Shinano. Shingen sends large forces commanded by Yamamoto Kansuke to Musashi.
In Musashi the artillery of Satake and Satomi pound relentlessly the walls of Kawagoe, creating terrible casulties to the defenders. after month and half of bombardment the Hojo garrison has suffered 3000 casulties and all but strongest outer defenses have been pounded to dust. Satake and Satomi decide to leave the overall command of the combined army to Satake Yoshiaki. He commands the force to stay alert as there is large possibility of Hojo sending an relief force.
And on May 15th it arrives. Hojo Ujiyasu has mustered every man he can got hold of during the winter and during middle day of may 15th the five lucky colours, the war flags of Hojo appear on on the western horizon. The Hojo army marches as solid formation with the cavalry on it rear numbering in total 23300 men. The Satake and Satomi main forces are situated on small hills both North East and South East from the Kawagoe castle, with smaller number of allied troops entrenched around the castle.
Ujiyasu marches straight towards the castle, slowly dividing his army to two large blocks as he tends to march from both sides and to leave the castle in between the blocks.
Satake Yoshiaki orders his cannons from the hill positions to open fire against the approaching Hojo troops. The cannon fire tears terrible wounds to the ranks of the Hojo, but Ujiyasu is everywhere riding back and forth in front of his troops rallying the troops where ever the ranks start to falter.
Satake Yoshiaki watches in disbelief as the Hojo marches straight into his cannon and teppo fire and says to Satomi Yoshitaka who is next to him.
"Ujiyasu seems to gone mad. We outnumber his force and he is marching just under our noses. Should we encircle him and be done with him?
As Satomi Yoshitaka grins, the two are interrupted. A messenger rides to the commanding post in full gallop, yelling.
"Imagawa flags on the left!"
As the Hojo force has taken the attention of Satake and Satomi, Imagawa guided by local Hojo warriors have marched his 10000 men carefully concealed on the left flank of the allies and are about to attack. As Yoshiaki and Yoshitaka discuss orders to defeat this new thread another messenger rides in, this time arrow sticking on his back. The rider grumbless down from his horse and gasps.
"Takeda! Takeda on the right."
Takeda forces under Yamamoto Kansuke,also numbering about 10000 have made another pincer to the right flank of allies, with strong cavalry contingent as vanguard. Satomi Daimyo addresses the Satake daimyo.
"Their forces are still apart from each other. Maybe we can crush their center and then it will be easy to destroy the separate wings?"
Satake Yoshiaki loos to the ground for a bit, then points to the Kawagoe castle and says.
"Look my friend. There is their center. Ujiyasu is throwing our troops of from both sides from the castle as Imagawa and Takeda are flanking us. There is 10000 more of Hojo men in the castle ready to join the fray. Attack is not an option. We must withdraw and fight another day."
Quickly Satomi Yoshitaka understands the situation and a general retreat is ordered. Before the battle the allies already moved part of their cannons to the rear in order to deploy them elsewhere if needed. The two daimyos are happy now about the situation. Yoshiaki orders the vanguard with cannons to delay the advance of Hojo while he leaves the extremes of his flanks to do the same to Imagawa and Takeda while the main army retreats from the double envelopment. As Hojo forces reach the sides of the castle the garrison sallies and soon after Takeda cavalry attacks the cannon positions from behind. The hill position is taken with relative ease and the three commanders meet in the ex command post of Yoshiaki.
Takeda commander Yamamoto Kansuke suggests that the cavalry forces should pursuit the enemy´s main force but Hojo Ujyasu rejects that. He points his command staff to the field under their eyes patched with dead Hojo ashigaru and samurais and says.
"There lies enough of my men already. We have defeated Satake and Satomi and freed the castle. This is no time to invade them, specially because they still have lots of men in their disposal to garrison their castles."
Satake casulties in the battle are about 4000 men while Satomi looses 3000. So combined casulties for their army is about 7000 men. The casulties come mostly from the delaying troops.
On the other side Hojo losses are about 4000, while Takeda 600 and Imagawa around 500 men. In total about 5100 men. But nevertheless Musashi is back in Hojo hands the winner gains 6 cannons and it is decided that those should be left in defense of castle.
While Satake and Satomi withdraw in good order to Kazusa. Majority of the coalition army starts quickly marching towards Shinano. While Hojo leaves 10000 men garrison to defend Kawagoe.
In Kozuke, Date Harumune is about to order his 4000 men to move into Northern Shinano in support of Uesugi, but before he is able to march out, he receives grim news from home. Nanbu has broken peace.
In early Spring the daimyo of Nanbu clan,Harumasa . Gathers the rulling retainers of the clan to an an meeting and declares his agenda for the new year.
"Date wages war in South with Mogami and Ashina, gathering new lands. Our clan has been blocked here in North and as our neighbours neglect to protect their lands we will conquer them. Under the mandate from Ashikaga Shogun, as the Shugo of Mutsu i declare war to Date and will put their lands under our control."
The Nanbu army marches out on middle April, first brushing aside the Date forces in central Dewa, who badly outnumbered withdraw to Date capital Sendai. Nanbu leaves a force of 2000 men to secure central Dewa,while the rest 7000 men march to Sendai and place it under siege.
After receiving the news Date Harumune march quickly to Southern part of Date lands and remain there for the rest of the season thinking of ways to counter the Nanbu invasion.
The deadline for orders for summer 1562 is, Sunday 23rd of December.
The info pm´s will arrive tomorrow evening.:sweatdrop:
I would like to take the Takugawa if that is possible. I don't know anything about Japanese history but this looks like a very well run and enjoyable game.
Argh, not nearly as happy as I could have been.:angry:Quote:
Originally Posted by Kagemusha
Kage .... your just awesome man !!
Open Letter to all Japan
Clan Asai wishes to pay its respect to the great Kitabatake Huramoto, the Fox of Ise. In another time perhaps we would have been allies if we hadnt been brought to war for the sake of Asai's Honour.
Asai Nagamasa