Capo di Tutti Capi IV [Concluded]

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10-03-2011, 23:43
Cahoma

Re: Capo di Tutti Capi IV

Wait, GH is scum? How do you know?
10-03-2011, 23:48
Xenoneb

Re: Capo di Tutti Capi IV

MRD vote on page 60-ish?
Edit Here it is https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showt...post2053377524
There was a scummy post by O!TLD near that. Not enough to post it, but to mention.
10-03-2011, 23:51
Zack

Re: Capo di Tutti Capi IV

I knew my vote for the Pizzaman was a good one!
10-03-2011, 23:54
Askthepizzaguy

Re: Capo di Tutti Capi IV

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xenoneb

I Looked back to compare the two mafia "reveals" to see what compares. Two of the same names pop up, which leads me to believe that MRD was telling the truth. We haveto lynch/Vig all of both lists, in my opinion. It is not often that 14 Mafia/soon to be Mafia are named. We must attack. Next select day, vote for someone other then GH. He is scum. He even might be working with ATPG, and just pretending that there is a Veto character. It side in MRD post that either Ironside or GH would be the successor.

Edit: Red is "Known" scum, Blue is questionable. Everything else is in between.

:laugh4:

NOBODY TELL XENONEB! I want to see how long it takes for him to figure it out.
10-03-2011, 23:56
Montmorency

Re: Capo di Tutti Capi IV

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xenoneb

MRD vote on page 60-ish?

Quote:

I Looked back to compare the two mafia "reveals" to see what compares. Two of the same names pop up, which leads me to believe that MRD was telling the truth. We haveto lynch/Vig all of both lists, in my opinion. It is not often that 14 Mafia/soon to be Mafia are named. We must attack. Next select day, vote for someone other then GH. He is scum. He even might be working with ATPG, and just pretending that there is a Veto character. It side in MRD post that either Ironside or GH would be the successor.

Edit: Red is "Known" scum, Blue is questionable. Everything else is in between.

Well, many people voted for MRD. And there are many people in that list; surely there would be overlap. In itself it says little. But fine, go ahead. Try to organize vig groups now. Have the doctors protect Monk, and you, and whomever. But even if everyone you hit is scum, I fear that there may be a slaughter on the town's hands tonight...
10-04-2011, 00:00
Xenoneb

Re: Capo di Tutti Capi IV

Quote:

Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy

:laugh4:

NOBODY TELL XENONEB! I want to see how long it takes for him to figure it out.

I'll firgue this out! I'll have a huge headache from reading all the post. But I will! As of now my guess is GH is a Don, and he wrote the non-lynch. Iron side might be. How do I do that thing were I pull up all of a person's posts?

Edit: Mont. there was only 4 people on MRD's reveal. The four listed. And I'm dead, so some one needs to step up for the town.
10-04-2011, 00:01
Cahoma

Re: Capo di Tutti Capi IV

It might be a good idea to have GH investigated though. The one who's leading the pro-town effort should of course be a townie, and it's not like we can take any chances with all the stuff that's been happening.
10-04-2011, 00:15
Askthepizzaguy

Re: Capo di Tutti Capi IV

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cahoma

It might be a good idea to have GH investigated though. The one who's leading the pro-town effort should of course be a townie, and it's not like we can take any chances with all the stuff that's been happening.

You'll learn nothing as he hasn't been killing.

Better is to investigate folks who have been killing to see who they've killed with.

There, that's your pro-town protip of the day.

Now.... release your anger. Only your hatred can destroy me.
10-04-2011, 00:24
Xenoneb

Re: Capo di Tutti Capi IV

Huge text wall Ahead

Quote:

Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy

The All-Request Hour with Saucy Slice
"Well, I've taken a look at some of these songs you want me to play, and my first reaction is.... what in the blue marble is wrong with you people? But it's an all-request show, and we have to take what we can get. Hold on, I'm being handed something.... it seems that one of the candidates for Director of the Committee of Vigilance would like to be interviewed on the air! This is extraordinary! Let's find out if this candidate is up to snuff.

Mister Hanky General, you're on the air with DJ Saucy Slice. please say hello to our listeners and if you could, describe for us your vision of Fatlington under the watchful eye of a true General."

If you want to request a song, dial 1-855-DJ-SLICE. He'll serve your ears something hot and fresh in thirty minutes or less.

Quote:

Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief

"Hey, everybody. Hopefully you're all doing well out there, eating well, sleeping well. Saucy Slice, thanks for having me. I'm not going to do the usual politician thing of explaining how much more wonderful life would be in Fatlington would be if you select me to be your Director. I think we've all been through this situation enough times in the past to know how to deal with it. Look at Commissioner Fermanagh, he's been prepared for months now. We've got special detectives and G-men from Washington and everything coming in undercover to do our work for us. I think we're all pretty self-sufficient here. So select me, and you won't be unnecessarily burdened with more government interference that frankly, I'm not even sure if we need."

Quote:

Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy

The All-Request Hour with Saucy Slice
"So, Mister Hanky General, you're campaigning on a platform of limited, responsible government and down-to-earth all-American family values, is that not so?

Excellent, you sound like the kind of compassionate conservative this city needs. As it stands, our city is already under siege from the Feds, and I'm not just talking about the g-men. These taxes are out of control. If selected, would you be willing to campaign to lower taxes, once this crisis has been averted? There are many legitimate businessmen in this town who would like the government off their backs permanently, and are willing to do just about anything to make that happen. Will your administration be friendly to the local businessmen, or oppressive?"
If you want to request a song, dial 1-855-DJ-SLICE. He'll serve your ears something hot and fresh in thirty minutes or less.

Quote:

Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief

"Excellent question, DJ Slice. While I don't think Fatlington's tax policy is quite under the Director of the Committee of Vigilance's jurisdiction, I'm definitely for lower taxes that are friendly to business. As any good resident of Fatlington knows, our fine city is built on tourism. With such icons as the picturesque beaches, the Hotel Abbatoir, and of course Club 30, people flock to Fatlington from up and down the East Coast. However, there would be nowhere to flock *to* if it wasn't for the fine businesses in the area. A tourist destination with nowhere to eat and nothing to buy is not much of a tourist destination, and we need to ensure that our tax rate allows businesses to continue to set up shop here and stay competitive. Therefore, this candidate for Director is behind the businesses one hundred percent... and thus by extension behind the people."

The bold is the things I felt odd. The first one is very odd, since JHT just got interviewed, but barely got anytime. For the next one Pizza has used businessmen as code words for mafia before. My thinks they planned this since the beginning. Before this interview, JHT was up in selects. After this, GH votes rocket.

Quote:

Originally Posted by woad&fangs

Select: woad&fangs
If you don't, you will be sleeping with the fishes.

Also, I have heard less scummy things from real mafia. How is he still around?

Any input is welcomed

Edit: Cahoma, Dons show as innocent. So no use doing it.
10-04-2011, 00:34
Xenoneb

Re: Capo di Tutti Capi IV

Quote:

Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy

The All-Request Hour with Saucy Slice

"Ladies and gentlemen, a package has been delivered to these offices. It contains a letter that I've been asked to read on the air.

I am not sure what to make of it, it could be some sort of terrorist threat, or whatever. I'm going to hand this over to the authorities once I'm done with it. I will note that I do not and this station does not endorse this message, nor can we vouch for its source or content. Here it is:

.....Yeah. So anyway, this is really strange. No return address, just an email address. But, I've promised to be your source of news, information, and :daisy:-kicking music, and so here is news and/or information. Not sure which.

Actually, this message is killing my buzz, and I resent the implication that I am allied with the mafia. I've allied with no one, and I'm staying out of politics. Leave Saucy Slice alone, whoever you are. I don't want to get involved, sir or madam.

Back to the music in a moment."

If you want to request a song, dial 1-855-DJ-SLICE. He'll serve your ears something hot and fresh in thirty minutes or less.

I wonder who sent it? It seems total correct though. Puppet GH government, Pizza being voice of mafia (interviewing of GH)
Edit: Sorry about double post. I'll start page four tomorrow. This is going to be fun! (To see full post, go to page 3) Was all of it planned out? All the reveals? Even Monk's review? It's all to give the allusion of choice? Vouching for stranger? Were does reality start? How much of these was planned? Can I take the Red Pill? To see the Matrix as it's reality. To see all the agents.
10-04-2011, 00:57
Askthepizzaguy

Re: Capo di Tutti Capi IV

Much better, Xenoneb.

Yeah, GH was put in as Director because I asked him if he'd be neutral or mafia friendly. He was obviously a willing puppet of the mafia families. The interview shows him admitting to being "business" friendly. Which business? The Family business.

They needed to hear it from his own lips that he would destroy townies only, and leave mafia alone. And he consented. The subtext is actually glaringly obvious but nobody wanted to go town this game. That was the first major clue that I'd have a lot of space to work with.

He's just nervous because I had my hand in every cookie jar, and that makes going mafia a whole lot less secure from his point of view. He needed me removed so he could continue to be Director and also to have a safer shot at the Capo prize for himself.

In that sense, GH and I are the same; both motivated by scummy greed. The differences after that point become more obvious.
10-04-2011, 01:21
White_eyes:D

Re: Capo di Tutti Capi IV

I hope this really becomes a "Capo IV Civil War". It's been kinda tame since the start anyway, this should give it the shot in the arm.:clown:
10-04-2011, 01:32
Xenoneb

Re: Capo di Tutti Capi IV

To little, to late. We have to suffer through two days of Mafia rule. I say Chatoix and Wood&Fang next. Neither seem to be in GH's mob, so they should get taken down easily.
10-04-2011, 01:34
Chaotix

Re: Capo di Tutti Capi IV

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xenoneb

To little, to late. We have to suffer through two days of Mafia rule. I say Chatoix and Wood&Fang next

:laugh4:

If you were really worried about lynching mafia, you wouldn't be going after me.

As it is, right now the mafia feel they have as much reason to kill me as the town does.
10-04-2011, 01:37
Xenoneb

Re: Capo di Tutti Capi IV

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chaotix

:laugh4:

If you were really worried about lynching mafia, you wouldn't be going after me.

As it is, right now the mafia feel they have as much reason to kill me as the town does.

We can't lynch Ironside, Jarema or Daveshack?. They probably won't go through. Landlubber would be another one possible.

Edit: Curses! You guys have made me randomly look through the pages, looking for more clues! I forgot what else I was going to say!
10-04-2011, 01:43
Montmorency

Re: Capo di Tutti Capi IV

If GH is Mafia, then you will only be lynching townies for a while.

Don't forget that despite the highest proportional turnout ever yesterday, there are still about 20 totally inactive players, the majority of them town. If there are at least 30 scums (2 dozen being allied with GH and Pizza), and more looking to join, then town doesn't have a ghost of a chance. You are outnumbered.

There may be hope, though: the assassination of Tratorix indicates dissent in their ranks.
10-04-2011, 01:48
Xenoneb

Re: Capo di Tutti Capi IV

No. The alliance is (hopeful) broken. We need only to vig non-GH family mafia. That should get through... Have fun well you still can, living townies. The town can still go on. It's only night 8?. We have a large list of names, and at least one Don. Warning, if you are a townie, Do not vig tonight. join protection groups. Vigging will either fail, or hit innocent.
10-04-2011, 01:48
Sprig

Re: Capo di Tutti Capi IV

Xenoneb,

Look at Monks list once again and see what you can see?

Ironside
issaikhaan
Jarema
Johhog
Jolt
Kennigit
Khazaar
Krill
landlubber
LazyMcCrow
Lewwyn
Memnon
Monk
Neri
Nightbringer
Niklas
Oh! TheLastDays!
10-04-2011, 01:50
Memnon

Re: Capo di Tutti Capi IV

And just what are people supposed to be seeing there, Sprig?

Edit: Nevermind, I see it

It includes Monk! I was just being a little defensive/clueless.
10-04-2011, 01:52
Xenoneb

Re: Capo di Tutti Capi IV

Monk's on it. He admitted to that. Memmon publicly posted Blue pill(not completely home free, but better then most). LandLubber has gotten really lucky with the lynches. Can anyone tell me how to pull up posts by name?
10-04-2011, 01:55
Chaotix

Re: Capo di Tutti Capi IV

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xenoneb

Monk's on it. He admitted to that. Memmon publicly posted Blue pill(not completely home free, but better then most). LandLubber has gotten really lucky with the lynches. Can anyone tell me how to pull up posts by name?

Search function > Advanced search > search by user > find posts by user.

But there's still something you're missing about that list. Something very special about who exactly is on it...
10-04-2011, 02:05
GeneralHankerchief

Re: Capo di Tutti Capi IV

For the record, I have not organized any vigilante groups tonight nor am I planning to. I am not part of any family, nor am I planning to be. All ATPG's trying to do now is take me down with him.
10-04-2011, 02:09
Montmorency

Re: Capo di Tutti Capi IV

What part of "Active Mafia-path outnumbers Active Town-path" did...

If the Mafia keep on killing ~3+ town a night, then by mid-November there will be none. The WoGs will handle the rest. If you take everything that has been said for truth, and posit that GH is thoroughly anti-Town, then Town is finished.

Its time to duel! You're finished, you fool!
10-04-2011, 02:22
El Barto

Re: Capo di Tutti Capi IV

Quote:

Originally Posted by thefluffyone93

You know what?
After ATPG is lynched, we should go ahead and lynch GH.
Just to be sure.

Besides, a little bit of anarchy never hurt anybody, right?

Right?
https://i1110.photobucket.com/albums...3/Applause.gif

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQkActP-isE

Quote:

Originally Posted by Montmorency

Being dead I can't be too direct, but it really does seem as though Pizza became to individuals whatever they wanted him to be. He has in fact helped everyone do everything, from advance to rogue to advance to Made. :shrug:

Eh. To be honest, I'm not bright enough to see a loophole in this pre-game pact of yours. Maybe someone else could point it out?

And where is Pizza, anyway? Nothing to say? There are only 10 hours left.

He must be up to something. He does not go quietly.

Sounds like a universal middleman. And he didn't even go.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy

Hello, what's all this then? :bounce:

As if you didn't know…

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nightbringer

Well, I suppose we'll just have to Vote:ATPG

???

Quote:

Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy

Much better, Xenoneb.

Yeah, GH was put in as Director because I asked him if he'd be neutral or mafia friendly. He was obviously a willing puppet of the mafia families. The interview shows him admitting to being "business" friendly. Which business? The Family business.

They needed to hear it from his own lips that he would destroy townies only, and leave mafia alone. And he consented. The subtext is actually glaringly obvious but nobody wanted to go town this game. That was the first major clue that I'd have a lot of space to work with.

He's just nervous because I had my hand in every cookie jar, and that makes going mafia a whole lot less secure from his point of view. He needed me removed so he could continue to be Director and also to have a safer shot at the Capo prize for himself.

In that sense, GH and I are the same; both motivated by scummy greed. The differences after that point become more obvious.

Yes, you've been proven scum and he hasn't.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Montmorency

What part of "Active Mafia-path outnumbers Active Town-path" did...

If the Mafia keep on killing ~3+ town a night, then by mid-November there will be none. The WoGs will handle the rest. If you take everything that has been said for truth, and posit that GH is thoroughly anti-Town, then Town is finished.

Its time to duel! You're finished, you fool!

So be it, Jedi.
10-04-2011, 02:41
Sasaki Kojiro

Re: Capo di Tutti Capi IV

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xenoneb

Monk's on it. He admitted to that. Memmon publicly posted Blue pill(not completely home free, but better then most). LandLubber has gotten really lucky with the lynches. Can anyone tell me how to pull up posts by name?

The pm was sent to everyone, that section is just the L through O names or something.
10-04-2011, 02:51
Xenoneb

Re: Capo di Tutti Capi IV

Okay. I didn't get it cause I'm dead. I get it now. Any Detectives need someone to detect tonight? 'Cause I got a target in mind. Please PM if interested.
10-04-2011, 03:59
GeneralHankerchief

Re: Capo di Tutti Capi IV

I need townies for protection work tonight. This is very important. Please PM me if interested.
10-04-2011, 04:51
Sprig

Re: Capo di Tutti Capi IV

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xenoneb

Okay. I didn't get it cause I'm dead. I get it now. Any Detectives need someone to detect tonight? 'Cause I got a target in mind. Please PM if interested.

ATPG's PM went to almost* everyone. The pm in itself has little meaning other than a fishing attempt to sound out possible corruptibles.
At this stage, I will not be surprised if GH and Pizza are same mafia team and GH just refused to lynch him.
10-04-2011, 04:54
GeneralHankerchief

Re: Capo di Tutti Capi IV

As Director, the only influence I have over lynches is if there's a tie vote. Then I can deny the lynch to one or both people. If there's a single lynch candidate however, I cannot stop that person from being lynched.
10-04-2011, 05:18
Askthepizzaguy

Re: Capo di Tutti Capi IV

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro

The pm was sent to everyone, that section is just the L through O names or something.

Sasaki

Why you spoil my fun? It was hilarious watching them try to take down that group of my most trusted gangsters.

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