What evidence was against me? I can't recall anything that hasn't been explained over and over.Quote:
Originally Posted by Evil_Maniac From Mars
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What evidence was against me? I can't recall anything that hasn't been explained over and over.Quote:
Originally Posted by Evil_Maniac From Mars
Nothing has been explained, I'm not that out of date.
This sudden attempt to get a bandwagon going on a director vote is very good, but I can smell it all the way from here on the east coast of Australia.
You and Sasaki have been in each others arms for the past two days, and Jimbob never mentioned anything about you.
Let's draw a ring around the rosy voters.
KukriKhan
Sasaki Kojiro
Proletariat
What reason have you pretty trio for voting one of your group, instead of Jimbob?
What evidence is there that proves Prolly's innocence more than Jimbob's?
If there isn't any, then that means you aren't voting her for the good of the town, but yourselves.
And selfish behaviour is criminal behaviour.
Uhm, Seamus's addendum.Quote:
Originally Posted by EMfM
But you're right: EMfM= wiseguy, not specifically mafia.
@Glenn: you do realize, that your overt support of JimBob suddenly makes him suspicious? If your effort is to grant our absent benefactor additional days protection, I'm afraid you've come up short, mate.
I'm willing as I said, to "go out on a limb" and grant Fermanaugh protection to a character who seems, to me, to be pro-town, and anti-mafia. Nobody should get infinite protection, IMO.
Sasaki needs to die. He finds someone who voluntarily tells him about getting access to the don board, hunts down a mafia don, a mafia luca, and then leads the charge to get him lynched.
Sasaki is too good a player to make that whole thing a mistake - to ignore all the signs that I was a protown (what mafia don would tell Sasaki he was in the don meeting? Who would attack Andres because he knew he was guilty before Sasaki posted his guilty result? Who wasn't protected by a Luca when he was attacked?)
As for me not posting the links to the board - you posted before I posted the emails that all I needed to do was to post the emails and I'd live. I did - lo and behold they contained the old Capo I Don PM - and you still wanted me dead. I could've posted the link and you still would've wanted me to die. And since I knew you were not pro-town by then, I didn't want to give you any more information.
Sasaki needs to die.
Glenn - Jimbob isn't here. The town needs someone who's actually here.
CR
The town can think of someone far more trusted than Proletariat.
It isn't the town who needs Proletariat, it is Sasaki, Kukri and Prolly that need that position.
Don't give it to them!
Especially, CR, think, that your own target for the lynch - Sasaki - is most thoroughly supported by Prole.
If you can see this problem, support me in revealing it!
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Kukri, if you are Mafia, I am not your mate.
And if I want protection, and trust in the hands of the last Norman Crusader - who has already gone to great efforts to help the town - and you are unnerved at that, then you must be rather scummy.
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But if you are so pure, Kukri, then make a case here in public to show why Proletariat seems to be pro-town.
What do we know about Prollytaaryat?
CR, how would it be harmful to the town if you had published the link to the secret mafia meeting place? The dons knew that they had been spied on there, they have probably already moved on to another place.
TBH, I shared Sasaki´s view on the day you were lynched. I don´t understand why you didn´t post the link.
But there is another issue. When did you (CR) tell Sasaki about the meeting? From what I gather, it must have been several days ago. Probably even before Sigurd revealed it in the thread ... Why has Sasaki waited so long before he made his case against CR?
lulz good job wasting a kill Sasaki. :thumbsup:
It is a pity the plan didn't work. Rather than it saying 6 people showed up, it said at least 4. That doesn't help one bit. I do wonder what that banner thing was about though. As for someone else being part of the failed hit on Ichigo the night before, that can't be right because it was Haudegen, TinCow and myself who were involved on the first hit. So unless Haudegen was the scum (Which we can't rule out) it was one of the two of us. I'm going out on a limb and saying it wasn't me. However, like I said we can't rule out it was Haudegen, so TinCow may not be scum.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
What was the reason we are lynching Charge?
CA,
I completely understand that you can´t be sure whether I was the traitor during that night. But I´d like to point out, that it was me who attempted to start a bandwagon on ichigo on the day before (day 9).
Ok... so it seems I were a Don.
Must have misread my pm :beam:
I assure you Prole, that none of the hits on you came from my family.
I knew your role and I might have disclosed it in the Don meeting. I guessed as to who your protector might be, but none of the families have made an attempt at him.
Husar might have been attacked because of information I gave, [OOC:sorry about that.]
Other than that, I must congratulate the town. You are doing well and might win Captain of Captains again.
OOC:
This has been a most enjoying game. It had a high difficulty level and I was really hard pressed a few times.
Hmmm.. I might start cheering on the Mafia too.
It seems to give one favour with the township in the public thread!
Well, lynch me if you want. What a perfect bandwagon, isnt it? 'Luck' means nothing at all you :daisy: , that sound more like random reason to lynch anybody except yourself and your buddies, even criminal result on N3 doesnt mean mafia. Too annoyed I didnt join their families perhaps :thumbsdown:
I love Mafia games. :2thumbsup:
31 Players still alive, with many of those Mafia.
Vote: Charge - Cleaning up the trash from the previous night. No more lucky escapes for you.
Select: Proletariat - No point in having an inactive Director anymore and it is important to keep Prole alive.
I don't understand why there is a current bandwagon on Charge. What evidence is there that he's mafia, apart from a lucky escape? We've already seen that luck is not enough to point to protection, and we've had confirmed townies survive by luck. Is there nothing else to go on?
Tincow,
Your're alive. Reveal more on Prole, please.
Furthermore I missed out on why charge is begin lynched.. we still have people like Kukri running around?? oh and sasaki needs to be lynched before the end of the game. definitely.
hmm, so Sigurd was a don, and CR was innocent.. that makes up slightly for my other big mistakes in interpreting/etc in this game. :balloon2: :2thumbsup:
:book:
I'm sure he shows up that way - but I'm not yet ruling out idea he wasn't another Don, till his results come back.Quote:
Originally Posted by Drisos
The facts still stand - his detective result on Sigurd wasn't a detective result it was the result of information gained in the Don's meeting.
The detailed results on me didn't tie up properly with the known facts in the thread..... so he knew I was a Luca, that could also have come out in the meeting. My Don could have revealed that information either accidentally or deliberately, if say someone told him I was one of the next targets....
I'm not pretending to have turned pro-town, but I dislike devious mafia working their way into town's trust and using that to sell out other families more than I dislike any other element in this game.
The town should still be careful before following anything else CR suggests before his full post-mortem comes back. It might not only be other families he's trying to sell out.
JimBob's post #2208 list of suspects from 10 days ago, seems to have borne out true, so far. Charge is listed as a wiseguy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Myrddraal
That's the last publicly published list we have.
Pray, tell what you did last night, Charge? :smash:
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Was anybody with CountArach last night? Is that whole 'vig group infiltrant' thingy that started yesterday night sorted out?
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Looks like Crazed Rabbit was right after all. All his lynchers are now suspicious. Some were no doubt sincere, some were most probably mafia. The voters: CA, Ichigo, Kage, Leet, Sasaki, shlin, TruePraetorian. Ichigo is scum. CA was already FoS'ed.
Here are CR's results again for your convenience:
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
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Prole is pretty much confirmed innocent. The only people attacking her still are EMFM - her mafia attacker. And Glenn. Glenn's increasingly desperate posts make me wonder if there isn't maybe more to his win conditions after all than 'town victory'. It is clear Glenn and JimBob are crusaders. But is a mere town victory their sole objective, or is there more to that all-red role PM of theirs?
Why did the 'glaive' (blade) kill last night? Who is this single-person killer? Was it JimBob, 'the blade / sword'? 'Below the full facemask was a high-collared black coat with a silver sword-pin on the left collar point. In the hands of this figure was some kind of sword on a long wooden handle. <<A glaive?>> thought Ferret, fixating on the deadly blade.'
Why didn't you comment on this murder write-up a bit more, Glenn. It implicates you and JimBob, or is related somehow to all that weird crusaders / sword / blade / shadow / light stuff. Yet, not a word from you about it. Hmm...
All we know of the crusaders is that they are a secret society. Seamus: "Glenn is a strange case. On the surface he seemed a regular townie, but a thorough search revealed a small memento album with scrolls in Latin, a print of some French medieval tapestry and one photo of him in some kind of Crusader regalia. Along with some stray rumors about a secret society, we’re just not sure about him. We may never know the whole story.”
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Well played Sigurd. Classic mafia stuff. :bow:
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The 'Sorry buddy' banner in Ichigo's car sounds like simply a message from Seamus and nothing of relevance for the game.
Gah! Had a good run, didn't think i would survive this late into the game, i would advise selecting prole for director with people being unsure on tincow and jimbob being afk
I have more evidence on Charge, but I would prefer not to release it, because doing so might make a couple people targets. Needless to say, Charge is confirmed mafia and needs to be killed eventually. Given that the list of confirmed mafia is now relatively small, he's as good a target as any.
Oh really??Quote:
Originally Posted by TinCow
I can say I have evidence on you or anybody else too. So who's right?
Me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charge
Fair enough.
Vote: Charge
My thoughts.
This bandwagon on Charge, though worthy, is also good cover for mafia. A clear lynch target is good, a lack of discussion on other suspects is bad.
I think there is more to EMFM's story than we know, but I also don't think it's relevant now, that episode appears to be over.
Myrddraal is correct. We should not stop discussing other people. I note that Cowhead418 was murdered last night. He was a detective and was working with JimBob. Here are all of the results I have from him. They are cut short because he did not send me any results after JimBob went AWOL:
Note that Twilightblade is criminal. Along with his earlier sketchy last minute vote switch, he should be considered mafia. Since CR has been vindicated, his N7 criminal result on Warluster should also indicate another mafia.Quote:
N1:
pevergreen = criminal
The Stranger = innocent
N2:
Glenn = innocent
Crazed Rabbit = innocent
N3:
charge = criminal
ajaxfetish = innocent
N4:
Proletariat = innocent
Twilightblade = criminal
Well, seeing as we don't have a priority target, and at the moment we're voting for a wise guy, let's go for a double (or even, dare I suggest triple) lynch.
Unvote: Charge
Vote: Warluster
A person who will remain anonymous has provided me with Cowhead418's results from N5 and N6:
Quote:
N5:
Rythmic = Innocent
Myrddraal = Innocent
N6:
Norwegian nerd = Innocent
FactionHeir = Criminal
Myrd, never a bad idea to lynch several, unless one has top priority.
But, are we as sure about warluster as we are about charge? Charge might mess up the tally.
Btw,
Has anyone considered yet the possibilty of Norwegian Nerd being a don? his mistake at the beginning of game made people think he wasn't town.. and twice investigated innocent..
btw, I still think TruePraetorian is mafia.
Doesn't mean I was connected to the Mafia.Quote:
Originally Posted by KukriKhan
That being said, I am not attacking Proletariat, but I'm sure the town can do better than that for director.
On the other hand, Sasaki has made me suspicious occasionally in the past.
:rolleyes5: