I sure as heck hope/think so. ~;) That gal is awesome! Time to shatter that glass ceiling!
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I sure as heck hope/think so. ~;) That gal is awesome! Time to shatter that glass ceiling!
No. I would support Bobby Jindal. Sarah Palin has already been painted as an incompetent by a media which is obviously hostile to her. Choosing her would not be a smart choice. She will not win. Neither of the no options apply to me though, because I am neither for or against her.
Yeah, the media can scream their heads off all they want, people are not completely stupid. Palin as already off to a great start clearing her name. Conservatives love her, I even know former Democrats who support her just because they hate the way the current regime is taking things. I would say that she has at least a 50/50 chance at winning. Not because the odds are in her favor (they are anything but), but because she is so good at overcoming odds. You can bet your pretty little behind that she will have my vote. :yes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Evil_Maniac From Mars
And BTW, if neither of the choices fit you, then just vote "Vuk is God". ~;)
If she does, I'm moving to Mars.
I'll send you a postcard then. ~;)Quote:
Originally Posted by HoreTore
(but it will be COD ~;))
EDIT: And what, are you afraid that her and her herd of gun toting, Bible thumping conservatives will invade your little peninsula? ~;) Honestly, if you are afraid of large scale global conflict, it is Obama I would be afraid of. His diplomacy is downright scary. :P
No. She isn't very popular. She's in the news a lot, but so is tiger woods and he isn't going to be elected president.
Did you see how many people went to her book signings? I'd say she is pretty popular. :PQuote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
EDIT: and Wisconsin is not a very conservative place, but the conservatives I know around here are really excited about Palin. Also, I know a lot of people on the fence ready to jump either way. I say give her more time to play her cards and you may just find that she is a lot more popular than you think.
Tiger can tons of votes just by sending out a text message.Quote:
Originally Posted by Just Vuk Again
No one even thinks that he will run though and people do not like him for his political appeal. I do not think that it is a fair example. You could have explained away Obama's popularity during the 2008 campaign the same way.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
EDIT: Anyway, she has something that America really craves right now, common sense. She is a hardworking, real person who is very much in touch with the common man and woman. She is also highly intelligent and has smart, common sense sollutions. People are tired of the reckless and ridiculous policies that Obama's administration (and to an extent, Bush's) has been pushing. It is time for Change, and she is that Change. ~;)
EDIT 2: She also has an uncanny optimism that is very encouraging and appealing. I would not underestimate that.
Not only has Sarah Palin already been painted as an incompetent by a media, she is also actually incompetent.
I take it you were a Hillary supporter then.Quote:
Originally Posted by Just Vuk Again
Nah, I honestly do not give a crap about someone's gender. What I care about is if they are a good person and a good leader. I just like teasing the libs who like to pretend that that is really important to them. ~;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Subotan
EDIT: Let me rephrase that, I actually do have an interest in her gender. I think that it is important that everyone, including women know that they are just as free as anyone else to participate in the political process, and are not looked down on because of their gender. I think that if the first ever female President of the United States was an idiot, corrupt, etc it would make people doubt the ability of women to handle such a position. I think that it is important that the first woman be as good as the best man (Reagan), and I think Palin fits that ticket. It does not and never would effect my decision to vote. I will always vote for who I think is most fit for the job, but that is an awesome added bonus that I think will be beneficial for all women in changing the way that they are perceived.
No, and if she was elected, I'd hope someone would kill her for the good of the entire world. The lady has no business running as mayor of a town of 50 people.
Environmental policies decided in the US affects the rest of the globe, including me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Just Vuk Again
Financial policies decided in the US affects everyone else, including me.
Idiotic wars started by the US affect everyone else, including me.
And finally, there's the issue of simple influence; the president of the US holds a lot of it, and it seems that the more right-wing the republicans turn, our right-wing parties follow suit and become much more radical. If I have to suffer the retardedness of the Progress Party, I would surely prefer a toned-down version of it. The more liberal the US President is, the more likely they are to behave themselves as grown-ups.
And Obama? He's wrapping up two idiotic and failed wars started by Palin's ilk. Now which one would I prefer....hmmm.....:idea2:
Oh, and I fully support Obama getting the peace prize, so.... No, I consider his diplomacy a true blessing opposed to the non-existant diplomacy we had with Bush and will have with Palin.
EDIT: There's also the fact that Palin is a gibbering moron. And a gibbering moron is quite capable of screwing over an economy. And if there's one thing the world does not need, it's a failed US economy. Even though I just had a blast at eBay, those dollars are like monopoly money now....
You wouldn't believe how hard it is to get a visa.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoreTore
No she will never ever get elected in America. She is a whole lot of nothing in political terms she lies to try and make herself look better. I.E She was actually for the so called bridge to no where when in Alaska but when she made the national stage she was suddenly againest it. She lacks substane he being picked in the primaries would be the greatest thing for the democratic party she would lose in a mondale style rout. What the republicans need is another Teddy Roosevelt not another George Bush which is all Palin is.
First of all let me say that that is just sick and wrong of you Ice. In fact, it is degenerate and evil. I have a very strong dislike for Obama as a President and as a person, but I would never in my life condone any acts of violence against him. (even if just for the respect of his office alone)Quote:
Originally Posted by Ice
I really hope that that was a twisted joke of some kind.
Yeah, I know what you mean. Like Obama's Cap and Trade and other proposed environmental policies that will ruin the entire US economy and have massive implication for the rest of the world. (and a weak US would know doubt greatly increase the chances of large scale wars)Quote:
Originally Posted by HoreTore
And yeah, Obama really deserves the peace prize for accomplishing...what now? Yeah, nothing at all. As I said above, I have no love for the man, but if he deserved the prize I would say give it to him. All he has earned now is a lot of laughter and crying.
Palin a moron? LOL, no offense, but she is probably a lot smarter than the both of us.
For you, yes.... But that's because you're german, and that's a punishment because your people killed Jesus.Quote:
Originally Posted by Evil_Maniac From Mars
Yes, you're actually upset about that comment vuk, I can tell.Quote:
Originally Posted by Just Vuk Again
Actually no, any comparison between Bush and Palin is decidedly to Bush's disadvantage. (which is not to say that Bush was an esp bad President, I think he was more around average) Also, while Teddy Roosevelt had admirable qualities, he was quite frankly a corrupt ***** in many respects.Quote:
Originally Posted by Captain Blackadder
I think that you like to think that she will amount to nothing. Seriously, everyone says that she will not clear a hurdle, then she does and they are like "Ok, but she will not clear the next one!". We are 54 hurdles down the road and everyone is still saying it. I don't have to argue it with you, she will prove you wrong for me. ~;)
Why shouldn't I be?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
I've stated my views on the Nobel Peace Prize at length in the relevant thread. I don't feel like repeating myself a billion times, but I suggest you read Jaglands reasoning for giving him the prize, and also take a look at Nobel's will to see what it's actually all about. In short however; yes, Obama has fulfilled all three conditions, and I have yet to see someone who has done more on all three conditions this year. Obama is actually a proper winner, it's the human rights activist winners of the last decade who are the questionable ones.Quote:
Originally Posted by Just Vuk Again
No offense, but I highly doubt that. Evidence? The Katie Curic interview. Also, what was it she studied again? Communication? I have to confess, I have an extreme prejudice against anyone in that business....Quote:
Originally Posted by Just Vuk Again
I predict the ultra-conservatives will prevent the GOP from being able to run more than a hotdog stand for some time to come. :sweatdrop:
As for Palin, she was propelled to the national stage for reasons of demographic and representative expediency. You were never supposed to take her seriously.
Alas, both herself and her fans strangely do.
Ah well, I guess that other running mate / poster boy, Dan Quayle, still believes he is really fit for the presidency to(e)*.
* I'll let Quayle and his fans puzzle on that 'e'.
The Katie Couric interview was a less than stellar moment for Palin, I freely admit. However, keep in mind that Palin makes a good case in her book that they selectively put clips together to make Palin look as bad as possible. They took her stumbling and put it together in a way to make her look stupid. She misunderstood a question in an interview (and she was completely sleep deprived at that time too), does that make her dumb? No, it doesn't. Does it mean that she is not extremely intelligent? No it also doesn't.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoreTore
If the Conservatives actually are "getting excited" about Sarah Failin', they must be very desperate indeed.
Mind you it's not like I exactly weep every time they shoot themselves in the foot.
First of all, the GOP is a conservative party. You can trace all its faults to it trying to be something else. If a liberal does not like it, then they can join the Democratic party. There is no such thing as a lukewarm conservative or a quasi conservative. You either are or are not, period. It does not mean that you have to agree on everything, but you need the same core values. There are too many people in the party who do not. (Bush being one of them ~;))Quote:
Originally Posted by Louis VI the Fat
And why do you call her supporters fans? Why not supporters like you call the supporters of every candidate? Even when Barack Obama had people crying, fainting, yelling that they were in love with him, etc they were refered to by the media as supporters, yet the media (and people on this board) dubb Palin supporters as 'fans', as if they are just emotional and going through a fad, and not to be taken seriously. Have the goodness to say supporters please.
Question of the day? :dizzy2:Quote:
Originally Posted by Just Vuk Again
It's because she's not taken seriously, Vuk.
I'm not completely sold on her being a "moran" and I think Bush actually went senile in Office, take a look at 2001 and 2008, you can see the difference.
At the end of the day Palin is ignorant, and is not clever enough to realise it. That alone means she's not clever enough to lock horns with world-leaders, and her inability to stand up to journalists further demonstrates her unsuitibility.
Do you think she will run (or try to run) as a Republican? Through all the Primaries and Caucuses?
Or will she try to start a new Party? And who would she pick, you think, as her VP running mate (the person to replace her in case Ice has his way).
Don't forget Philipvs that most of what you know about her is from her time being shackled in the McCain camp. She was very restricted and they tried to control her a lot. She admitted that she did not know nearly as much as she would have liked about foreign policy and has been spending lots of her time educating herself. I don't think it is that she has a big head, but that she is determined. You should read her book. My sis has it and told me a lot from it. Over break I am gonna read it myself.Quote:
Originally Posted by Philipvs Vallindervs Calicvla