This is just too tasty:
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servl...rnational/home
:oops:
Printable View
This is just too tasty:
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servl...rnational/home
:oops:
I felt bad for his wife.
Didn't Craig say it was all a misunderstanding? He was just tapping his foot to the snappy elevator style music piped into the "head" in the A.P. - he gave the cop his card (slipping it under the stall panel) as he always does to his constituents he meets in AP bathrooms. :inquisitive:
How was he to know that tapping his foot could be construde as being an invitation for manly man-on-man sex? I mean doesn't everyone tap their foot while taking a dump, and hand out business cards in bathrooms to unidentified males?
Obviously a simple misunderstanding. :laugh4:
Yep, it's gotta be pretty humiliating.Quote:
Originally Posted by Don Corleone
Well, it's the vast Right-Wing conspiracy redux. This lying :daisy: actually dragged his wife into an interview back in May where he categorically and emphatically denied any truth to other, similar rumors and got her to defend him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Goofball
It's a really twisted scene where you're actually hoping its just a marriage of convenience and she knew all along. :shame:
He was just on the news just now saying, "I'm not gay and have never been gay". Well Lucy, when your trying to find lovin' in a men's bathroom, that doesn't exactly make you Hugh Hefner does it. Oh well, stick a fork in this one (which he might actually like), he's done...
What's interesting is that Craig voted consistently against expansion of homosexual rights. Staunch opponent of gay marriage, rated zero by the Human Rights Campaign, etc.
So we've got self-loathing and self-hating down to a science. And then we have the classic Washington sense of the rules don't apply to me, surely?
At one point during the interview, Craig handed the plainclothes sergeant who arrested him a business card that identified him as a U.S. Senator and said, “What do you think about that?” the report states.
I was startled by the hypocricy as well Lemur. Then I got to thinking... he's in Idaho, which is a mostly Mormon state. What a perfect cover, no? His wife is a beard, and of course, he'd never pitch or catch... just look at his voting record. And then again, it's a myth that the gay community is 100% behind homosexual marriage. Not all gay folks agree it should be enacted.
Well, in honor of Senator Craig and Devastatin' Dave, here's a little video tribute.
I'm simply overwhelmed by the hypocrisy of it all, on so many levels. The senator, the police, society at large. I don't only feel sorry for the wife, I feel sorry for all those 30 million gay Americans, many of whom who have under intense social, moral and religious pressure have marginalised their sexual desires into self-loathing and deceit. I feel sorry for all of them, and for their two dozen million spouses, and for their tens of millions of children. For all of those psychologically doomed families, destroyed in the name of morality and family values. This is the real hypocrisy.
Are there also undercover police officers in America staking out in a private sphere like a bathroom, to check for heterosexuals 'using signals used by straight persons wishing to engage in lewd conduct? Or do they just hunt homosexual men?
Then again, I would feel more sorry if this was your average gay man, pressured by a homophobic environment - a fair bit of it internalised - to lead a life of public and emotional deceit. But the sheer hypocrisy of this senator makes me sick:
At one point during the interview, Craig handed the plainclothes sergeant who arrested him a business card that identified him as a U.S. Senator and said, “What do you think about that?”
:wall: :no:
See, this is what I don't get about Gay Male America (men, lesbians are excepted, I believe).
Straight people don't have 'sex spots' like parks and public bathrooms where they just show up and anonymously boink a stranger. Yes, there's singles bars, but then, there's gay bars too. I'm not questioning the right of gay adult men to take home strangers, but do they have to do it in the public bathroom? In the park? At the zoo? Have they no dignity, no sense of self? Having sex with dozens of strangers in public places....straight or gay, it's disgusting, and trust me, I'm no prude.
@Don: That's a thing men like the senator do. As far in the closet as he is, how is he going to go to a gay bar?
Oh come on... He's not that in the closet if he's handing out his Senatorial business card and saying "What do you think of that?" Besides, what's wrong with house parties? My issue isn't the homosexual sex, it's the public nature of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
I, for one, wish to denounce public sex in the strongest terms possible. Anyone decadent enough to have sex on a rooftop in Brooklyn, or in the bathroom at the Plaza Hotel, or anyplace else that's scary and exciting, is a gross pervert and a danger to society at large. I know what you're saying -- but Lemur, what if it's with a really hot Australian author of S&M novels, and she's a total perv, and you can't help yourself? Shame, I say! Shame upon you! I don't care if you were an unmarried author in New York getting freaky with a hot Ozzie writer, there is no excuse for such behavior. None! And I will deny all rumors that suggest the Lemur has engaged in hanky-panky with a sexy chick in semi-public places! It's nothing more than the scaremongering of a hyper-partisan Backroom!
Now I'm gonna go pass a law or three ...
I hear what you're saying Lemur, and I know exhibitionism is a big thing for a lot of people, gay and straight (or whatever you call it when you're not exactly ehibitionist, but the thrill of maybe getting caught). But frankly, if I had to change Jillian's diapers and I walked in on a straight couple doing the nasty on the counter, I'd be just as likely to slug the dude than if it was a man sandwich going on.
That's what I don't get. What are we bashing him for again? Is it for being (apparently) gay? Is it for being closeted? Or is it for not being "pro-gay" enough? There are gays who don't see the need for gay marriage and "hate crime" laws are more of a conservative/liberal issue than a gay/straight one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Don Corleone
Now, to me at least, trolling for anonymous sex is a characteristic that I don't approve of in our Senators. But I seem to remember some here claiming that someone's personal life should be none of our business when it came to the promiscuity of other politicians. :shrug:
Take his gay lover home? Home is where his wife is. Or his conservative father. The dorm? His buddies will beat him up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Don Corleone
The straight couple that you would beat up just as much as the gay couple can get married and go home, the gays can't.
As for the park, the street, the zoo? Those areas are reserved for heterosexual displays of affection:
http://celestissima.blog.20minutes.f...e_ville-gr.jpg
If he's having an illicit extramarital affair, why not get a hotel room? Surely, straying straights don't get a pass for this sort of behavior.
And I actually don't mind 'tasteful' displays of affection by gay couples. Putting their hands down each other's pants, maybe no. But then, I don't much care for straight couples engaging in such behavior publicly either. As I said, for me this isn't a gay matter. This is a matter of taste and decorum.
The first thing Im gonna do when Im of age is go to a gay bar...judge me as you will. but it will be fun
I've lately come to believe that being a prominent public figure (senator, minister, etc.), and opposing gay marriage/gay rights is a more reliable indicator of male homosexuality than wearing pink or having limp wrists.
Ajax
It is, and sometimes it completely shatters preconceptions.Quote:
Originally Posted by Strike For The South
Can someone explain to me why they're talking about a senate ethics investigation for Craig? He plead guilty to a misdemeanor disorderly conduct- is a misdemeanor something that gets you removed from office now? Sure, it might be best for the party ect. if he resigned, but that's not really an issue for the ethics committee to take on is it?
To me, this seems more like a political issue that should be decided by Craig or his constituents.
The fig leaf they're using is some rule about how Senators are supposed to report any guilty convictions, or something of the sort. Seems the G.O.P. is very keen to have this thrashed out; the Dems want him to stay, for the obvious reasons. My guess is that the Repubs don't want yet another sex scandal hanging around their collective neck, so they're looking for ways to get rid of the guy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Xiahou
That's just my $0.02 analysis ...
Erm...where's the Senatorial report on the homeless? :huh:
LOL :2thumbsup: That's what I first thought.Quote:
Originally Posted by Banquo's Ghost
When I was a callow youth I used to go to a couple of bars where there was a lot of gays. The music was brilliant and the company witty and funny. It was my experience then that the most vociferous opponents of homosexuals were closet ones themselves.
I know that this was in a public place, and I'd like to state here and now, that like Lemur, I've never had sex in a (semi) public place. :laugh4:
He is an hypocrite.
In any case what people choose to get upto when in private is nobodies business but theirs.
The business card under the door I understand, but what't the foot tapping thing? Is there a special rythm or something? I don't routinely tap my feet, but it adds a new threat to enjoying a rythm - someone else enjoying my colon... :thumbsdown:
~:smoking:
Ohhh the Hippocracy! Not another good upstanding Republican, one day I swear Bush and Dick will give a whole new meaning to the "Oval Office".
What an awful work detail. I can just hear the Assignments Sgt at his a.m. briefing: "Smith, give D.A.R.E. classes at the school; Jones, run the firing range; Sgt K, you umm... you go sit in the airport mens room and see if anyone asks you for sex..."Quote:
Sgt. Dave Karsnia was working as a plainclothes officer on June 11 investigating civilian complaints regarding sexual activity in the men’s public restroom in which Craig was arrested.
Airport police previously had made numerous arrests in the men’s restroom of the Northstar Crossing in the Lindbergh Terminal in connection with sexual activity.
He has to be the junior Sgt with the PD there. It's like something out of Borat.
I've got to say I DON'T understand the business card under the door thing. Catching a girl's eye in a nightclub when she is there with her boyfriend, that is a clandestine business card situation. Anonymous bottom sex in a public loo surely isn't? Are people going cottaging, but ONLY if their partner of the moment is a professional? Surely its more or less a requirement of random public loo sex that you take what's on offer?Quote:
The business card under the door I understand, but what't the foot tapping thing? Is there a special rythm or something?
As for the rhythm, I guess, if you needs to know, you know. What this does show is the wisdom of conducting all visits to the gents on a strictly eyes front get the business done and get out basis. I mean, you could go in thinking you are going to have a quick number one, carelessly whistle four bars of Dixie while unzipping, and the next think you know you are spending your Sunday afternoons looking for soft furnishings in IKEA with a hairdresser called Alfonse.
I had assumed he had given the officer his card while being arrested in an attempt to get off. It says nothing about him sliding it under the door.