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Loved that movie!
A few questions remain:
1)Could anyone as efficiently duck away from arrows behind shields as did the Spartans fighting in the shade?
2)Did anyone actually use that clever Push-n-Pull tactic used by the Spartan phalanx? (to the cliffs!) Or that wedge against cavalry?
(seems pretty effective, anyway only possible under the pretext of confined spaces)
3)Could partner-fighting (hetaireia!) work like that?
4)Can anyone give me the number of their personal trainer?
could anyone ask questions in the wrong place any better than you?
seriously, wrong forum.
well as this mod is one of the more historically accurate mods on the .org i would think this isnt a terrible place to ask that question.(i dont know the answer btw)
...and that makes it the right place to ask about a dumb movie that spends around its whole lenght kicking historical accuracy, realism and good taste in the teeth why exactly ? :thinking:
Anyway, yes, people with shields tended to take cover under them when iron-tipped stuff rained from the sky. Sort of one of the central reasons the things were carried.
And wedge formations are Bad Idea for infantry. The around closest you get is "stepped" sub-unit formations and shallow chevrons, the latter often being the natural result of an officer or other leader going first and those closest to him following right behind, the sides of the unit lagging already due to the delay in information transfer and reaction time.
Not to mention that the movie is set over 200 years before the EB period. Might as well ask some questions about the War of Austrian Succession in a WWII-game forum.
Chuck Norris could duck as fast as a roundhouse kick, but never would, because ducking would imply he was afraid of 100,000 arrows.Quote:
Originally Posted by delablake
Chuck Norris once used the Spartan phalanx Push-n-Pull (to the cliffs), as well as the cavalry wedge, all by himself. He did so to show that Chuck Norris is the only true phalanx formation.Quote:
2)Did anyone actually use that clever Push-n-Pull tactic used by the Spartan phalanx? (to the cliffs!) Or that wedge against cavalry?
(seems pretty effective, anyway only possible under the pretext of confined spaces)
Chuck Norris wouldn't need a partner to fight in that manner. He would simply grow another pair of legs at will to triple the effectiveness of his roundhouse kicks.Quote:
3)Could partner-fighting (hetaireia!) work like that?
Chuck Norris has the number of a personal trainer...2 fists, 2 feet, and 1 face.Quote:
4)Can anyone give me the number of their personal trainer?
Yours.
"Wearing armour into combat is pointless. The most naked man wins."
- Everything Else I Need To Know I Learned From The Mummy Returns
Chill out guys! Even if the film isn't set in the same time-frame as EB, surely the questions he asked are still a little bit relavent? It's not as if he's asking questions about machine guns.
Well it is a rather stupid movie that really has jack all to do with anything historical... even the comic got the actual fighting down more credibly AFAIK, and at least lacked the mutants galore (what now the Foot Clan Immortals never fail to amuse me). :rtwno:
Plus I seem to recall having answered the valid questions.
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Originally Posted by blacksnail
Your forgot the third fist hidden under the beard :laugh4:
I still need to see 300. Sure, it's not historical, but it sounds like it could be fun.
1. https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showt...p?t=80913&pageQuote:
Originally Posted by madmatg
2. https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showt...4474&highlight
Cause, maybe, there was no point in opening a new tread about it ;-)
ah lol so heated
you guys better all wach out cause chuck norris just gave his vote to mike huckabee, better watch yourself when you go to vote or you might get a roundhouse kick to the face...
I actually sorta know this.Quote:
Originally Posted by delablake
It's Gym Jones, an invitation only gym in Utah.
In their own words
Something I found funny is that the actors all did a ceremonial workout where they did 300 reps and the only one to finish it was the Thespian.Quote:
Gym Jones is not a cozy place. There's no AC, no comfortable spot to sit and there are no mirrors. Stressors are intentionally designed to cause discomfort and apprehension. Effort and pain may not be avoided. Physical and psychological breakdowns occur. The support of a like-minded group, dedicated to The Art of Suffering, provides a safety net. An individual will push harder and risk more in the company of trustworthy peers and that's one reason the gym is not open to the public. Gym Jones is a private, invitation-only facility located in Utah.
1776
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UaB6gMj4wQw
Hell yeah!!
300, it aint accurate, but it will blow your fking mind. :beam:
Seems so. Anyways, the Hoplites didn't much care for archers or archery. Maybe the archers the Achaimenids were using weren't as good.Quote:
Originally Posted by delablake
Believe it or not (and I am not Rippley) it was. It was called "Othismos" or "joint push" and it did pretty much what you saw at the film. It could only work on close spaces though.Quote:
2)Did anyone actually use that clever Push-n-Pull tactic used by the Spartan phalanx? (to the cliffs!) Or that wedge against cavalry?
(seems pretty effective, anyway only possible under the pretext of confined spaces)
Considering the fact that Varangoi themselves fought in Hetairiai, I honestly think that it can be resolved.Quote:
3)Could partner-fighting (hetaireia!) work like that?
4)Can anyone give me the number of their personal trainer?[/QUOTE]
This is one of my favorite Robot Chicken sketches ever.Quote:
Originally Posted by Teleklos Archelaou
Delablake... this is the MOST important question yes really. :yes:Quote:
Originally Posted by delablake
All other questions... well the posts speak for themselves :smash:
Now the Trainer's name is Mark Twight, he is a famous mountain climber and an all-around badass. He heads GYM JONES where he and a bunch of the guys and gals train (some climbers, some fighters, some military, some coaches too, etc)
Check out the website
http://www.gymjones.com/
and look at some of the videos PLZ do not ask them any stupid questions. :no: Read some the articles they have, there is a lot of info although some can get pretty technical (like fat metabolism and stuff), they include articles about the 300 movie.
I saw that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Teleklos Archelaou
That was great!
johhny-turbo-
"Gym Jones is not a cozy place. There's no AC, no comfortable spot to sit and there are no mirrors. Stressors are intentionally designed to cause discomfort and apprehension. Effort and pain may not be avoided. Physical and psychological breakdowns occur. The support of a like-minded group, dedicated to The Art of Suffering, provides a safety net. An individual will push harder and risk more in the company of trustworthy peers and that's one reason the gym is not open to the public. Gym Jones is a private, invitation-only facility located in Utah."
sounds alot like wrestling- at least my wrestling practice-
Haven't seen the movie, but I imagine that for a movie that isn't about historical accuracy, it fills it's purpose quite nicely.Quote:
...and that makes it the right place to ask about a dumb movie that spends around its whole lenght kicking historical accuracy, realism and good taste in the teeth why exactly ?
Thank you serious guys all for the expedient answers
:book:
and the advice that I am posting in the wrong place
:shame:
as for the senselessly aggressive rest :furious3: of you,
well I'm still glad for the freedom of expression...
:yes:
WHAT!!!!~:eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by Bellum
Listen 300 is a TESTOSTERONE MOVIE!!! IF u got it in ur system you HAVE GOT to see this movie!!!!! :whip:
No reason to butcher this guy. He is interested in history and has a legitamate question, I see no need to repeatedly kick this guy in the balls over his question.
Lol, that was hilarious! :laugh4:Quote:
Originally Posted by Teleklos Archelaou
I think that the writers or directors of this movie had this idea;
They wanted to make a big epic movie like, "Troy".
They didn't really want to put the effort into it, so they thought of what would attract the most active, young audiences.
For the men, shiny plates, excessive violence, mutants, and an epic feel.
For the women, big broad men with long hair and huge sticks.
For both, alot of thrusting.
But, hell, that's all they really think of for most movies in modern days anyway, so in comparison it probably would be a good movie.
However, my family rented it one night, I saw the first few minutes and walked outside to go for a ride instead.
Dont forget the wierd comcubines...
At the end credit it says "Comcubine 1 (Forgot her name) and Comcubine 2 (Also forgot her name)"
Hilarious really
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Originally Posted by Glenn
I haven't read the comics, but I'd always assumed the mutant Immortals etc were present there too?
I'm imagining the appearance of most characters/warriors to be similar to the comics as well.
After all, that's what it is - a movie based on a comic. Like Fantastic 4. Do we complain the ability to spontaneously self-combust wouldn't work like it did in the film?
The only problem is people (ie kids, hopefully) not realising hollywood isn't the place to go for a history lesson..
The only mutant around in the comic was that hunchbacked guy who ended up signing up with Xerxes. Otherwise the Persians were, insofar as I'm aware of, in fact depicted by and large with a passable degree of historical accuracy, and in any case Miller has to be given brownie points for diligently rendering all those near-hypnotic geometric patterns in their clothes. He manages some pretty good screen compositions I'll give him that.
Well, the Immortals looked like they'd stolen their duds from the Foot Clan or the Hand, but at least they didn't sprout claws or IIRC go Ninja Fighting...
The comic at least is the product of a skilled artistic craftsmanship whatever one might think of the message of the end product. The movie, however, is pretty much an MTV CG-fest. Bleh.
That said, I destest the comic and movie for the exact same reasons I hate Braveheart and The Patriot and their ilk, plus the fascist-fanboy suspicions on top of that...
It was a god awful film.
Still, there was no reason to round on the poor fella.