How wrong is it to fall in love with a girl who has a boyfriend...

... and then try to seperate them or seduce her somehow? What if she is really beatiful?

Do what you want but you'll probably end up with your head and heart crushed but you'll never know until you try.

I did it once when I was in high school. It was fun at the time, but then she eventually broke it off with him after we did it a few times and left me for some other dude. Don't waste your time on cheaters. They will do the same to you. Its wrong because it tends to hurt you in the end.

2 cents from an old fogy in training.

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Originally Posted by Strike For The South

Do what you want but you'll probably end up with your head and heart crushed but you'll never know until you try.

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the worst thing is that I have to work with her for some project. I am not in love but I might lose control, cause she is just the right type but I I guess I can control it though...

Fart around her alot, then you won't have the issue anymore.

I believe it's wrong, for a few reasons:

1) If she's willing to do that, she's casual in that respect, or a slut. You don't want that.
2) If you go around trying to ruin their relationship, either you'll make both of them hate you, she'll refuse and not tell him, or you'll end up with a person who will change boyfriends at a whim, which you probably don't want.
3) It's just wrong. Think of how you would feel. It sounds like a cliche, but it's relevant.

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Originally Posted by TuffStuffMcGruff

Fart around her alot, then you won't have the issue anymore.

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great advice :yes:

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Originally Posted by Evil_Maniac From Mars

I believe it's wrong, for a few reasons:

1) If she's willing to do that, she's casual in that respect, or a slut. You don't want that.
2) If you go around trying to ruin their relationship, either you'll make both of them hate you, she'll refuse and not tell him, or you'll end up with a person who will change boyfriends at a whim, which you probably don't want.
3) It's just wrong. Think of how you would feel. It sounds like a cliche, but it's relevant.

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yeah maybe in time I might get my chance but then I can be with someone else but anyway I guess you're right

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Originally Posted by Mete Han

the worst thing is that I have to work with her for some project. I am not in love but I might lose control, cause she is just the right type but I I guess I can control it though...

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Dude after some trouble earlier in the year I had an ephinay and with it I realized Im the most enlightend man on the planet. there are plenty of girls out there you have to remeber two things.

1. Women are fickle evil creatures who do nothing but suck your life force. They lie cheat and steal they are the lowest form of human life. So just rember this

2. There will alwyas be another no matter what remeber that.

However this is countered by the fact

1. There soft

2. they smell nice

The most logical thing is of course to wait it out, which basically means you'll loose interest, and suddenly your problem is gone. And another girl will catch your interest.

If she breaks up with him on her own, on the other hand, just go for it. Also, if he seems to be a terrible boyfriend (from a neutral perspective) then you could probably justify it.

Why don't just leave her alone? Go to the plaza, go out to discos or something. You will find something better.

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Originally Posted by Evil_Maniac From Mars

If she breaks up with him on her own, on the other hand, just go for it. Also, if he seems to be a terrible boyfriend (from a neutral perspective) then you could probably justify it.

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I don't know the guy and actually I just met her a few hours ago... probably in the morning I'll feel nothing. but she is really sweet with fair hair and green eyes and every sweet little thing. She ain't sexy though, she is actually sweet and beatiful.

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Originally Posted by Strike For The South

1. Women are fickle evil creatures who do nothing but suck your life force. They lie cheat and steal they are the lowest form of human life. So just rember this

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I guess this is the exact reason I want to go for it, You know have fun for a few when you are really in love and then get rid of her. I hate attachment and the dark side of my personaility is that when someone starts to control me I want to destroy them in any context.

Yes women suck your life force, and they don't even respect total war!!!

Hey! Adultery and relationship destruction, even in the conspiratorial stage, are Frontroom affairs. :inquisitive:

If loving you is wrong, I don't wanna be right ...

Dont think about him - think about her. Opponent does not exist - objective is important.

i wouldn't call it "wrong" per se. but it is poor form, imo, and something i'd never want to do to a good relationship.

but listen to Tuff. if she'll bail on him for you, she's not worth any emotional attachment on your part.

Nothing wrong. Treat her as a friend, invite her along to things, stay friends. If she likes you she's sure to show it, then it's up to you what to do with that.

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Originally Posted by Beirut

Hey! Adultery and relationship destruction, even in the conspiratorial stage, are Frontroom affairs. :inquisitive:

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But It doesn't fit at all.

Women who cheat are nothing but trouble. Best thing you can do is get her out your head or atleast wait until they break it off.

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If she's willing to do that, she's casual in that respect, or a slut. You don't want that.

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Why not ? sluts are fun .

Pile-drive her, then give her the people's elbow. If she doesn't tell on you, then you'll know she's true.

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Originally Posted by Tribesman

Why not ? sluts are fun .

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I mean he doesn't want that for a lasting relationship. I'm not even going to presume that he's going think about breaking up a relationship just for a night with her, because I don't believe he's selfish, at least not to that rather extreme extent.

If she were single, that would be another matter.

Be Friendly around her, if she wants to hang out, only hang out casually, reject her advances. If she wants to hang out and her boyfriend is with her, be the bigger better man. If she loves her boyfriend she won't try anything, if she's with him because she doesn't know what to do, then she'll be honest and forthright. You need to gauge her reactions, and read them very..very carefully. Or if you the Seducer Type just have your fling and be done with her... after all you won't have to deal with the consequences unless her boyfriend happens to be the violent jealous type (like me):beam:

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Why not ? sluts are fun .

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Originally Posted by Lord Winter

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I don't think I've ever seen the equation so succinctly summed up. :smile:

If it's a friend of you it's wrong, otherwise fair game

Sound advice all round. And completely useless, at least when you're madly in love and not a complete weasel. Go for her, I say, even if it is mission impossible.

It doesn't sound like she's a slut at all. Besides, sluts can be fun indeed, Foxache. :yes:

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How wrong is it to fall in love with a girl who has a boyfriend...

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not sure if right or wrong comes into it.... but maybe ask the Trojans if it's worth the hassle :clown:

My girlfriend was engaged to another man when we met. The mutual attraction was, as it turned out, instant for the both of us. However neither of us acted on it, or even admitted to it, for a good long time. It was obvious though that her relationship was failing, the love was gone and they were both just treading water. Finally she admitted her feelings to me, and I to her. The next day she broke up her engagement and relationship of four years, despite the risk of significant fallout.

Thing is that I didn't have to seduce her or to steal her from another man. She let herself go because she wanted to. I didn't see her one day and take her the next - our friendship grew until it was so much more than the relationship she was in. We didn't fool around behind anyone's back and no one was betrayed, though obviously someone was hurt anyway.

I would say that if you met a girl yesterday, fancy her today and then attempt to take her tomorrow then you are indeed in the wrong. You know nothing of her, of her situation, of her current relationship. Nothing. You don't know what you are getting into, what you may be damaging, what your chances of success are or even if it is truly worth it. That is the action of a man after a one-night-stand, and there are better targets for those urges than a girl who is already in a relationship.

Now that we've garnered some backroom reaction, we'll move this to its natural home: the Frontroom of Peace, Love, and Grooviness.

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How wrong is it to fall in love with a girl who has a boyfriend...


... and then try to seperate them or seduce her somehow? What if she is really beatiful?

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The "fall in love" part, you can't control. The "try to seperate them or seduce her somehow" bit is wrong. You wouldn't take the guy's lunch just because it's sitting in front of you. You wouldn't just take his car... leave his girl alone. (Quoth the Old Coot).

Or be totally upfront and honest; tell him: "Hey, I have a crush on your girlfriend. No offense. She sure looks nice to me."

That way you're admiring her and him both, without trying to steal.

About 10 years ago, I had a girlfriend.

One of my best friends fell in love with her and he seduced her on some party.

Words cannot describe the anger you feel at such a moment. It's the only time in my life (well, except for a few boxing matches with my brother and one fight with a bully in my childhood, but those hardly count) that I lost my selfcontrol and actually punched a guy in the face.

Leave them be. I think being cheated on in a serious relationship is one of the worst things that can happen to you. It's horrible.

If she's really beautiful, go for it! Just remember that she'll leave you soon because some guy will eventually do to you what you did to her old boyfriend.

Back when the Earth was flat, one of my buddies hooked up with a chick who looked like an 18 year-old Elizabeth Taylor. I looked at her and knew in one second flat what the future held. A year or two later when I was a wee bit drunk at a party, I told her I was going to have her if it took twenty-years.

It took eight.

Never forget, though, you will face the consequences of your actions. Never doubt that.

Yes and no.

It's not odd to "have feelings" for someone who is in a relationship, and I don't think it's necessarily bad to go after someone in a relationship either. It's just not gentlemanly ... not fair play.

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Originally Posted by Fragony

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no I don't know the guy actually I just met her yesterday and before that we were perfect strangers. I dunno, I guess I will just wait to see what happens. Today when woke up I felt like I wont fall in love but I couldn't sleep until 4 am. So she has this aura that affects me but I can control it. After all I have bitter experiences.

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Originally Posted by Mete Han

no I don't know the guy actually I just met her yesterday and before that we were perfect strangers. I dunno, I guess I will just wait to see what happens. Today when woke up I felt like I wont fall in love but I couldn't sleep until 4 am. So she has this aura that affects me but I can control it. After all I have bitter experiences.

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Sounds more like lust than love; I'm not sure how the translation to Turkish would go. Think about what you would do with her once you "had" her. Try to develop a relationship and see if she feels the same.

If I found out a beautiful girl was already in love with some other guy, I'd probably stay out of their affairs, and just wait until I find another girl I like. But my opinion could change over time...

Well, I did that exact thing.

I felt terribly guilty even though we are still very happy with each other.

She ended it with him before anything happened between us.

The circumstances turned out to be in my favour:
He lived on the other side of the city
She only saw him once a week
She didnt like him, she just didnt have a reason to break it off.

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Originally Posted by Vladimir

Sounds more like lust than love; I'm not sure how the translation to Turkish would go. Think about what you would do with her once you "had" her. Try to develop a relationship and see if she feels the same.

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Actually it is greed rather than lust for I hardly find her sexy. She is sweet and beautiful though and I am just obsessed with that particular type. However, I dont feel the way I felt yesterday, it is just that I am obsessed.

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Nice to meet a fellow obsessive countryman. :freak:
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Ethically speaking, it is very wrong.
Evolutionarily and scientifically speaking, it's natural and expected.

My advice is you beat her guy up real bad, show her who the stronger one is so she will make love with you instead. If he turns out to be stronger, try to escape, there are other girls in the world and they're not worth too much effort, you might get emotionally attached or something. Always remember you're the alpha male, you're the guy and if anyone wants the same girl, beat the :daisy: out of him, it's only natural, science supports this. But keep in mind that if you take too many hits, no girl's worth that, they're only girls, you know.

You can get the best advice by watching Animal Planet or Planet of the Apes by the way, awesome documentaries if you want to know how this whole dating stuff works, can only recommend them. Now may the stronger one prevail and you better drop her when I come along. ~:wave:

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piledriver was good advice.

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Originally Posted by Sinan

Ethically speaking, it is very wrong.

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Why, if she's worth the trouble gaining her she's worth keeping as well. If it would mean tearing apart a family for your own shortlived pleassure ok, but if there is mutual attraction go for it unless it's a friend of yours.

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Originally Posted by Husar

My advice is you beat her guy up:elephant: :elephant: real bad, show her who the stronger one is so she will make love with you instead. If he turns out to be stronger, try to escape, there are other girls in the world and they're not worth too much effort, you might get emotionally attached or something. Always remember you're the alpha male, you're the guy and if anyone wants the same girl, beat the :daisy: out of him, it's only natural, science supports this. But keep in mind that if you take too many hits, no girl's worth that, they're only girls, you know.

You can get the best advice by watching Animal Planet or Planet of the Apes by the way, awesome documentaries if you want to know how this whole dating stuff works, can only recommend them. Now may the stronger one prevail and you better drop her when I come along. ~:wave:

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okay I'll see her tommorrow. she is going to visit the company (at which I am an intern) and be there for the whole day but for a project that has nothing to do with me. I will keep you posted about the life in the zoo.
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Originally Posted by Mouzafphaerre

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You know how rarely we get those blonds in this country even in Mikligarðr.

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Or be totally upfront and honest; tell him: "Hey, I have a crush on your girlfriend. No offense. She sure looks nice to me."

That way you're admiring her and him both, without trying to steal.

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Kukri-sensei, this country's men can't dare saying "kiss your wife for me" (which is not offensive unless you say it while licking your lips over there, iirc). Therefore, being that honest would be a pain in the ass. Literally.

Mr. Adanılıyıh Allahın Adamıyıh,

1- You never heard of the saying "Olacağı varsa olur" ? Why mess with someone else's relationship? If she likes you more while you two are together, she'll break up eventually and there you go. That's all about it. Meanwhile be a good guy with manners -not a "nice" one like a puppy. Olacağı varsa olur. :2thumbsup:

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You know how rarely we get those blonds in this country even in Mikligarðr.

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"Rarely" is too much, ain't it ? We got a good blend over here, me thinks. (no no, I'm not talking about painted coquettes)

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Kukri-sensei, Why mess with someone else's relationship?

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Life is short and I am obsessed. But I won't mess their relationship, I hope.

I am not those kind of Adanali who goes around saying Allahin Adamiyih. Turcoman blood runs in my veins.

But thanx anyway.

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Originally Posted by Mete Han

You know how rarely we get those blonds in this country even in Mikligarðr.

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You take me back 16-17 years to high school. And that was a real one! :yes:
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Originally Posted by Mete Han

Life is short and I am obsessed. But I won't mess their relationship, I hope.

I am not those kind of Adanali who goes around saying Allahin Adamiyih. Turcoman blood runs in my veins.

But thanx anyway.

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Weirdly, everyone I met who is from Adana turned out to be nationalists. I guess you are all running away from the invasion there, eh ? Or do you still live there ?

And, yes, don't mess with their relationship. It's not that hard to knot your...uh..hormones.

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I see no use in the ability to balance a vase on your *todger*

Edit: The Previous rude might have got me another warning point

Edit2: Todger sounds a bit short for the vases on which satyr are on, are there another words?

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Weirdly, everyone I met who is from Adana turned out to be nationalists. I guess you are all running away from the invasion there, eh ? Or do you still live there ?

And, yes, don't mess with their relationship. It's not that hard to knot your...uh..hormones.

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I left home at an early age. I live in Istanbul but I will have to return soon. I am not just "some guy" from Adana. We are bound to each other. The invaders will learn to obey.

ADANA VICTRIX

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I left home at an early age. I live in Istanbul but I will have to return soon. I am not just "some guy" from Adana. We are bound to each other. The invaders will learn to obey.

ADANA VICTRIX

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If you think she's in a bad relationship,there's absolutely nothing wrong with it.

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Originally Posted by Lord Winter

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So true.

All is fair in love and war, even if the saying is no longer true in the second case.

Just make sure you consider the price you'll pay for your actions, if you're willing to accept that, go for it. Life is short, try to make it interesting.

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You seem to have hit the nail on the head

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you know I did not mean anything like that...

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Originally Posted by doc_bean

All is fair in love and war, even if the saying is no longer true in the second case.

Just make sure you consider the price you'll pay for your actions, if you're willing to accept that, go for it. Life is short, try to make it interesting.

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I mean what kind of price? What could happen even in the worst case? Both she and her boy are perfect strangers. I mean I am speaking hypothetically for I guess won't do anything rash. In the worst scenario she would not talk to me again.. well, that is actually very bad!!!

You could get your camel beat, or stabbed.

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you know I did not mean anything like that...

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I mean what kind of price? What could happen even in the worst case? Both she and her boy are perfect strangers. I mean I am speaking hypothetically for I guess won't do anything rash. In the worst scenario she would not talk to me again.. well, that is actually very bad!!!

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Well then the price seems pretty low, go for it !

If you were to go for it, what exactly is your plan?

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If you were to go for it, what exactly is your plan?

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- Good morning
- Hey..
- Eat me.

Women are... in my best experience... something that wraps around you like a snake and forces everything from you. Why not be an above the average man and believe that until the moment you believe you are contempt women were put on this earth for mans enjoyment.

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Well then the price seems pretty low, go for it !

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I still don't get it? Do you think like I am going to have a conscience problem, no way. No body cared about me when my heart was broken. The only reason I ain't going for it immediately is the fact that probably it won't work.

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If you were to go for it, what exactly is your plan?

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Well, you see I met her in order to help her with some project. Actually my boss asked me to help her. That was monday evening. Later she started to completely ignore me. Maybe she must be asking herself how wrong is it to manipulate people with her beauty to get what she wants and then walk away?

The plan? There is no plan until I meet her again. the probability that she is enjoying her relationship actually ties my hands. After all I can't dig into that matter with emails or on the phone. And I cant force her to meet me since this is her project and she decides if she wants help or not.

I think I am going to find another one in order to overcome this fixation.

What would your plan be?

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I'd say that's a pretty good plan.

However, if you're desperate to have this one, my plan would be to just be friendly when you're working with her. That's about all you can do. Especially considering you only just met her, she's already involved (to some extent, I gather?) and she doesn't seem to have shown any interest.

If you think she did show some interest then maybe it's worth doing something more drastic. But I'd say you can just be a friend for now and see what happens. ~:)

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So you think the same negligence is valid for you too ?

That's something like the common story: "I used to be such a lovefool for a girl once. She just dumped me. And I've understood that I have to act like a bastard ever after and now girls are only means of sex for me"

If you have a "way" that can be manipulated at the very first misfortune, just give up that way from the very beginning. Weak.

It doesn't mean that you should hit back for no one had cared about you when you had a heart break once.

That's way behind what I call "having principles". My 2 cents though. Have good luck hunting.

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Don't man. There's someone other than she who's better.

Plus , like what they say, cheaters will cheat on you too.

okay it is wrong to cheat. on the other hand she said she wants to meet me tommorow and she invited me to her place. It is kinda hard but I will try repress the rush. after all she probably doesnt have any intentions for she is kind of naive. but then when a man thinks that a girl is naive then it means he is doomed to suffer. women are very effective in deception.

what the hell am I getting myself into?

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what the hell am I getting myself into?

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You're one of but millions of men who have uttered this question, my friend (and you certainly won't be the last). ~;)

All you can really do is play it by ear and see what happens (if anything). Perhaps her intentions truly are innocent, but it's probably best to be wary unless/until that actually proves to be the case.

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A girl who has a boyfriend invites you over to her place. Will it be "them" over there or only two of you?

The latter way, the girl will be a short adventure of yours.

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That's got less to do with girls being doomed and a lot more with men being evil.