EB MP tornament and general dicussion

Welcome to the first EB Tournament

hi so it seem people are up for a tornament good to see :beam:

this thread is for everything to do with the general dicussion of EB MP and the tornament that will start on the 22nd of may to let all them tried students :book: and a few days to get over there hang overs:skull::laugh4:

but first has any one got a good way of judging the compertion fairly and flexiable bean (RTR fan jump for joy :laugh4:) came up with the idea of everyone fight each other and the person that wins the most wins the tornament this is probly the best way to get people into it but not for judging the champion as the person that on it will most likey win and there are people that will never see each other



Game play

so what if we do a regional time line compertion where you play people from you're time line say GMT 0 to +8hour and then do three groups this way and send the winners though to play each other or the modders if there up for it play them?

I though this myself and someone else has said it thougher down which I think should be added 1 game with one faction so you only get to use that faction once on the tornament although this depends on how many people join the tornament, but will cut down on looking for one army to beat everyone else with

the score for each battle depends on what you get +4 to your score if you get a historical victory and so if you get close victory you get +1 but you are not allowed to atmite defeat to stop someone getting a better victory but you can reteat to stop them getting a better victory

2 matches per person you play

so is everyone up for the regional time line Idea of the the tornament?

any different ideas for gameplay you can think of doing?

rules

need 2 photos like this of the battle

https://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i...post2Small.jpg

https://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i...tpostSmall.jpg

use this to get up to 20 images of battles
http://www.game-master.net/pages/grabby.html

no upgrading attack of any units only +1 defence upgrade to any unit

no upgrading archers-slinger-horse achers Experince

no spamming a few units so, max of 6 units for only 1 unit type of any faction for any main unit that the faction has and then 4 after that of a factions main units types for that army unless you are rome with legionare which can have 10 units, meranaire or auxilaire units no more than 2-3 for any unit type and finaly no more than 2 units of the same cav

hmm I've see that people want the horse achers limited I'm trying to think of a good way to word it
how about this no more than 4-5 unit types of horse archer with the rule of no more than 2 horse units of any type for nomand faction and no more than 1 unit type of horse archer for the other factions?

money I think should be 20000 - 50000 each player get to chose the amount for one battle each within there bounderys

no red line bordering

anyone want to add or have changed them? I'm trying to keep it simple so it's easy to remember them

maps using and ideas for maps

also what do people think about having a hilly maps that are good for both sides although I think we should use them I think if the person you are againest dosen't want to fight on them then you have to come down from the hill or not go on the map

MAP ALLOWED

macedonian ruins ------------------- should be balanced - hilly
grassy flatland --------------------- flat
syrian flats ------------------------- flat
EB irish east coast ------------------ flatish just slanting up hill on one flank of all map
EB irish marshlands ------------------ flat - few tree for both sides
EB belgica ---------------------- flat treey - in middle of map room to deploy out of trees at sides of map
EB western gual --------------------- one side tilt mound on one flank the other a few trees
EB pripyat marshes ------------------ flat
EB Danube Delta ------------ flatish just slanting up hill on one flank of all map one sides got a few trees

the wild card maps
EB nineveh and the tigris ------------- hills on both sides of flanks race to the middle
sarmatian mound -------------------- race to the middle - mound in middle of map


just ask if you want one to be added but I think we should have a good number here

X-fire names - times likely to be on and there countrys

so put your name down now for the first EB tornament :smash:

X-fire name -------- time that they can get on ------ country and GMT time line on if need or requested

kinghannibalrtr --------------6pm to 12 AM --------------------------- ENG GMT 0
if PMed a few days before may also be able to get on any other times from 9 AM to 12AM

Mulattothrasher -------------- not sure -------------------------------- USA -4hrs east

lovejoy3 --------------------- not sure -------------------------------- not sure think ENG

1stNeoSpartan --------------- not sure -------------------------------- USA GMT -4hrs east

Burakuku -------------------- not sure --------------------------------- +3 GMT

Kallinikospalaestinos ---------3pm to 10 pm ----------------------------- - 6hrs GMT

wertdengrumme ------------- not sure --------------------------------- denmark GMT -1

Trippin301 ------------------ not sure --------------------------------- USA central -5 GMT

hamachi name
lorDBula -------------------- not sure ---------------------------------- GMT +1

ok we got the competiters I've divid us all into to groups it seems it's going to be Americans V Americans and Europeans V Europeans with a the finals American V Europe

group Europe ...........................SCORE...............MEN KILLED ...........NUMBER OF BATTLES HAD

King hinnibal ---------------------- ........ ---------- .............. ---------- ................................
Lovejoy 3 ------------------------- ....... ---------- ............... --------- .................................
Burakuku ------------------------- ........ ---------- ............... --------- .................................
wertdengrumme ------------------- ........ ---------- .............. --------- .................................
lorDBula -------------------------- ........ ---------- .............. ---------- .................................

group American..........................SCORE..............MEN KILLED ............NUMBER OF BATTLES HAD

Mulattothrasher ------------------- ........ ---------- .............. ---------- ..................................
1stNeoSpartan -------------------- ........ ---------- .............. ---------- ..................................
Kallinikospalaestinos --------------- ........ ---------- ............. ---------- ..................................
Trippin301 ------------------------ ........ ---------- .............. ---------- ..................................

Hamachi servers have been setup to

server name: EB tornament American --- for the American group
password: EB MP

server name: EB tornament Europe ----- for the Europe group
password: EB MP

Xfire: Mulattothrasher :thrasher:
Hamachi: The_Gaesatae
Time Zone: EST
Country: USA


I'm all for the time zone/region organization, unless somebody knows theres a better way to do it.

Not sure on rules, but, 40-50k should address most anything cost wise


A few of my own rules for consideration
-Roman players should stick to historical compositions; so with legions, for example, having more than 1 first cohort, and 9 standard cohorts isn't allowed.
-No elephants
-No artillery

I do not have much experience with factions that field horse archers. How many horse archer type units should be allowed in an MP match?

22th of may. :sweatdrop: I wont be able to play the first weak or so. :laugh4:

-No elephants
-No artillery

Do not agree. Elephants isnt that great. And they cost ALOT. I dont see the problem.

Artillery? Hm maybe.. I dont remember them being so good. But maybe they are overpowerd in some way...?

EDIT:
XFIRE: lovejoy3

About the Rules...

As I explained before in the MP fficial thread, $$$ can heavyly affect the outcome of a battle.

40K is on the high end. 50k is REALLY on the hight end (like all elites type of high end).
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I'll come back to the rules in a little but lets talk about how the tornament will be set up.

The time zone idea is AWESOME! we should stick to it.

Now... as I pointed out before in EB $$$ makes a HUGE difference as some factions are better than other when playing at a certain budget amount.

Because of that I called that players should play 3 battles against eachother before moving on. HOWEVER, because of this is our 1st tornament and its more of a test type of thing, I say 1 battle is enough. We need to see how this thing develops. :yes: and organize one better for next time.

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Regarding gameplay rulez here is an ongoing discussion me and Gabeleisis were having:

Re: E.B. multiplayer (offical)




Originally Posted by Gebeleisis
ok in case of a tourney these are the suggested rules in my opinion,feel free to spread your opinions

Rules are:

-Grassy Plain map or any other flat maps that have to be accepted by both players
-2 out of 3 games
-money:
15k mnai
30k mnai
45k mnai
-no red line camping

Army selection rules:
-you can use a faction only once in every stage of the competition
-max 4 RI (ranged infantry includes: archers,slingers) ["Peltastai" and units like these do not count like ranged infantry]
-max 4 same units
-max 4 HA (Horse archers includes javelin armed cavalry)
-max 1 level upgrade
-minimum of troops per army differs to the amount of money the tourney runs on

NeoSpartan Wrote:

-max 4 same units
An exeption to this rule are the (marian & Imperial) Legionaries to a Max of 10.

-max 4 HA (Horse archers includes javelin armed cavalry)
-- I am not so sure about this. Maybe a limit to 4 HA of the same kind. Ex: 4 Catapharact HA only. But OK with 4 unarmored HA. To a max of 10 HA units.
---> I say because HA factions normaly threw out lots of HA's.
------> and if YOU play against a HA faction the limit of 4 RI does not apply.

Gab can u clarify more on this "max 4 same units"???
-When I used to play MP we had a similar rule we meant the unit itself not the category of the unit.
-ex: Max of 4 Pezetaori (sp), but u can have 4 Phalangitai Deuteroi in ur army too.

Another rule:
Max of 5 Merc unit OF ANY KIND.
--ex: You are the Romani and u can have a 1 Classical Hoplite, 1 Hoplitai Troglodutikes, 2 Prodomoi, 1 Thraikioi Hippeis

Gebeleisis Wrote:
yes i was refering to the "same unit" as name like you explained

and i do not agree with max 10 ha case it will turn out a 2 hour battle until they use up their arrows

Now I write.... (and respond to king hannibal, Power2the1, Lovejoy)

1. From my expireince the HA battles didn't take 2hrs.... HOWEVER they did take longer than usual PLUS a flat terrain does offer advantages to HA armies. Put the same HA is the thick bushes of Germania and they are :smash:

So yeah 4 HA. Ur right.
-But I would not count Javening Cavarly as HA, I mean its SO not the same. (they need to get a lot closer, they don't have as much ammo, and they don't tend to be as armored as the better HA's)

2. The way to choose how much $$ to use will be by the players choosing 15k, or 30k, or 45k. If they can't decide do a "coin toss" or a "think of a number", or a 3rd party choose it for them.

Once the players are choosing their armies AND they have a budget of less than $45k, the players can choose weather or not to increase or decrease the amount of $$ to a MAX of $3000.
ex:
-X and Y chose to play with 30k.
-They talk and decide to decrease that amont by $2000.
-They choose their armies with a budget of 28k.

---I add this because as I've explained before the type of army, the tacticts, and the effectivenss on that army at a given budget varies from faction to faction. Remember fellas EB is "historically balanced" not "gameplay balanced".

3. I have no problems if a player wants to spend all his budget on elephants and artillery. Remember guys, this is EB, you ain't gonna see cheap Onagers throwing accurate fire bombs at your troops.

4. 100% absolutely NO upgrades.
Here is why:
-Upgrades not only mess up the stats of units BUT the +attack/defence/moral are unevenly distributed. Eventhough upgrades cost more the more expensive the unit is, this cost difference does is not even among all factions. And neither is the amount of bonus give.


For those who don't have it:
X-Fire: 1stNeoSpartan
Hamachi: 1stNeoSpartan
EST time, USA.
-4hrs GMT

22nd May is not so good for me either. :|

- Why grassy plain map? Any map that is agreed upon by both players, I say - and if no agreement can be made, send in 3rd party.
- Why ban people from using the same faction more than once/stage? Or is that only once/tournament? :stunned: I want my God-King!
- No restrictions on ellies or arties. My reason being that there is no reason to restrict them. They're not overpowered, and not exactly cheap anyway. I, personally, would rather spending that money on other units anyway.

I agree with Spartan on the jav cav not counting as HAs, and not to be restricted the same. I mean, you're not limiting foot javs along with the foot archers and slingers, so why do it with horses? Especially as skirmishers are a helluva lot better than the jav cav in ranged... and the peltastai you mentioned aren't exactly peasants in melee either.

X-Fire: TVMonkey
GMT +1

why not? but on 1 condition:

is it doable with a clean v1.1 (iread in multiplayer thread it is .81 v jazz that I don't get)
if so, then anywhere from 3:00 pm in texas time to 10:00pm in same time (in GMT I dunno)

Get the GMT time here:

http://wwp.greenwichmeantime.com/

look at that time and see how many hours ahead or behind you are.

I am -4hrs GMT. (and I live in the East Coast of the US)

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Originally Posted by NeoSpartan

Get the GMT time here:

http://wwp.greenwichmeantime.com/

look at that time and see how many hours ahead or behind you are.

I am -4hrs GMT. (and I live in the East Coast of the US)

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Right, good link, that. Reminded me that because of DST I'm actually in GMT+2 now. :sweatdrop:

GMT +3 here.
On X-Fire: burakuku
I'm not sure if I can play on Hamachi. I wasn't able to do so in previous versions and I tried almost anything. So my question is: will this tournament be on Hamachi or Gamespy?

Now here is what I propose regarding rules:

1. Money: 15k, 30k, 45k. Money is very important as Neo said. If the players decide for a plus or a minus of 2-3 it's their business.
2. Max of 4-6 per unit type except for post marians.
3. HA armies. This is tricky. I agree on a max of 10 HA (including javelin calv) But i say that armoured HA should be restricted to 2. As you will also have melee catas. I propose something like that: max 2 arm HA, max 4-5 HA, max 3-4 Javelin calv for a maximum of 10 units.
4. No red line bordering.
5. Why ban a player for using the same army? Don't see an argument for this like Celtic Viking said.
6. About upgrades. I say that a maximum +1 per category is decent. Not more than +1 armour, +1 attack, +1 exp. Why? It will make the battles longer or so to speak they will not be too short. Plus that agains a HA army, with no armour... It kinda sucks.
7. I am against banning elephantes and artilery. They're both expensive and not that deadly as ppl expect them.
8. About the maps: I personaly prefer flat maps, but if 2 guys want to play whatever map, I cannot be against it.
9. A max of 2 general's calv maybe.
10. Max of 5 mercs maybe.

Nothing else comes to my mind atm. We should discuss and vote somehow.

KH congrats for your efforts mate. :2thumbsup:

P.S: Sory for the bad english guys but I'm really in a hury. Plus that this is the 2nd time I do this as my X-fire update redirected me on a different link and I lost all I wrote the 1st time. Cheers!

OK user name on Xfire is kallinikospalaestinos...registrator wouldn't let me use another name..
its -6hrs GMT
also:

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Originally Posted by Emperor Burakuku

GMT +3 here.
On X-Fire: burakuku
I'm not sure if I can play on Hamachi. I wasn't able to do so in previous versions and I tried almost anything. So my question is: will this tournament be on Hamachi or Gamespy?

Now here is what I propose regarding rules:

1. Money: 15k, 30k, 45k. Money is very important as Neo said. If the players decide for a plus or a minus of 2-3 it's their business.
2. Max of 4 per unit type except for post marians.
3. HA armies. This is tricky. I agree on a max of 10 HA (including javelin calv) But i say that armoured HA should be restricted to 2. As you will also have melee catas. I propose something like that: max 2 arm HA, max 4-5 HA, max 3-4 Javelin calv for a maximum of 10 units.
4. No red line bordering.
5. Why ban a player for using the same army? Don't see an argument for this like Celtic Viking said.
6. About upgrades. I say that a maximum +1 per category is decent. Not more than +1 armour, +1 attack, +1 exp. Why? It will make the battles longer or so to speak they will not be too short. Plus that agains a HA army, with no armour... It kinda sucks.
7. I am against banning elephantes and artilery. They're both expensive and not that deadly as ppl expect them.
8. About the maps: I personaly prefer flat maps, but if 2 guys want to play whatever map, I cannot be against it.
9. A max of 2 general's calv maybe.
10. Max of 5 mercs maybe.

Nothing else comes to my mind atm. We should discuss and vote somehow.

KH congrats for your efforts mate. :2thumbsup:

P.S: Sory for the bad english guys but I'm really in a hury. Plus that this is the 2nd time I do this as my X-fire update redirected me on a different link and I lost all I wrote the 1st time. Cheers!

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I endose these rules, except for elephant and catapult part (that way poeple have enough money to have more men=longerbattles as well. as such, I say bann! I also say ioncrease max infantry units from 4 to 6

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Originally Posted by Ibrahim

... I also say ioncrease max infantry units from 4 to 6

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dude nobody is limiting max infantry or cavarly. ur getting urself confused :dizzy2:

to help u understand, we are limiting the SPECIFIC TYPE of infantry and cavarly.
ex: only 4 Pezetaroi. But u can have 4pezetaroi and 4 silver shields.
ex: only 4 Hetaroi. But u can have 4 Hetaroi and 4 Prodomoi (sp)

what u CANNOT do is:
ex: 8 pezetaroi.
ex: 2 Hetaroi and 6 Prodomoi

hope this helps.

Let's try to keep this thread up guys. So ppl can see it.

@Ibrahim: 4 of a unit type. So you can have 20 infantry but only 4 pezhetairoi, 4 silver shields and 12 other.

As for the artillery and elephants, I don't really care. Is just that think about it... 2 eles cost between 20k and 30k... It's a lot of cash. Why restrict those? But like I said, don't really care as I don't use them often... or at all.

that was exactly what I meant! I know you can have all infantry, just I'd like a maximum of 6 of one type (I wish I was clearer)...:wall: :wall: :wall:

Don't know mate but any proposal is welcome. So I will add yours. I still am for 4 maybe with some historical exceptions.

ok I should have made a better effort at presenting the first post so sorry updated the first post with ideas that are mostly to be used

give times you can get on look at top post as I can get on mostly any time if PMed a few days before and if yyou can do the same say please

you can say if you don't like the ideas used and your idea sounds better will be changed or if enough people agree that a rule should be change will be changed that way to

what are the problem with 22nd of may?

I am interested in joining this tournament, if it ever starts.

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Originally Posted by king hannibal

what are the problem with 22nd of may?

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For me, the problem is that I have kind of a final exam in physics the day after. I think I also have a chemistry test that week, and if I do, it's probably on the 22nd itself. That's why it's not so good a date for me.

hey lets all figure out a new date, eh? one every one can agree on. I'm free for may, and from late june to late August. that's a whole lot of days to pick and choose a compramise from.

Im here now

Xfire: Trippin301

Country: USA

Time Zone: Central

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Originally Posted by Gaius marcus

Im here now

Xfire: Trippin301

Country: USA

Time Zone: Central

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use this to figure out ur GMT
http://wwp.greenwichmeantime.com/

F* it ur 1hrs before me so ur

-5GMT

There is only one rule I want to propose;

That is Romani player can use only Polybian reforms.

I recently had a terrible MP game with Burakuku - terrible because my graphics card had a heart attack and the framerate went down to less than 0.1 per second. The actual ping and internet lag was fine.
Ironic.

In any case, I was allowed to use Imperial Romans against his Carthage.

Even though I was paralyzed, and he had all my units completely surrounded, and killed my general - not even one of my cohorts wavered until I admitted defeat.
I could have won by just sitting there watching frame by paralyzed frame.

So anything more than Polybians are overpowered for multiplayer I think - it takes away from the strategy - although perhaps an ahistorical use of Post-Marian cavalry can be implemented.

Apart from that - I see absolutely no reason for any of the rules proposed except the one limiting the number of specific troop units.

Who is going to enforce all these rules?

I won't be, I'll be having fun and enjoying the variety of players.

huh??? Glenn did u try reducing your graphics settings????????

I know what Glenn is talking about. I, too, was playing as the Marian Romans against hannibal who was Carthage. I think I had 1 cohort rout and a few auxiliary troops and thats it. I was playing historical too, with one 1st cohort and 9 regular cohorts.

Although I won that battle, I proposed afterwards that no Romans be allowed. We both agreed. It was so one sided that even I, who won, found little enjoyment in it becasue it was so one sided.

Just something to consider.

wowowowowowowowow wait a minute wait a minute now...

listen I disagre with that.

I think, and I say I think. That maybe hannibal forgot one thing.

Post marian cavarly ain't that great. (hint)

Marians are actually weaker than they were in .81x (unless EB team did something to their stats in 1.1, which I highly doubt). As a matter of fact I got beat 3x in a row by POLYBIAN romani because their cavarly was much stronger. (I always played at the Gauls)

I don't know what to say... Carthage against Imperials with 45k money sucks really bad. Bur Carthago, imho, sucks in bug money games. In a 15-30k game... don't know. Plus, like Neo said, the advantage is their calv. Strike, strike, and agian strike. Plus, that I don't think that imperials are invincible, not at all.

I sense a great deal of proposition and a great lack of resolution.

looky here. Its EB's first tourney- of course there is more propositions then resolutions. anyways, I already have it planned out. Ive PM'ed you.

never mind sorry. but I'm still prepared.

I disagree also I think romans aren't that unbalance I just try and use ele to win didn't work though he had a line of phalanx which pin my down and came around hard on one flank with most of his army broke that flank and then it was a general rout good battle :2thumbsup:

Don't know really. I say 1st we play any faction, it's the 1st tournament, and afterwards, we can add some new rules, right? Like... instead of 10 imperial cohorts (9 + 1 1st cohort) we can restrict to 8 (7 + 1 cohort)... or something like this. Don't know, we'll find something right? I mean the imperial army it's quite expensive but very good. But it's not invincible plus that I'm sure that with time, ppl will find ways to defeat them.

Quite the opposite, the Imperial army, like every Roman unit - is very cheap - the best value for money in the entire game.

But I agree - let's just get together for a game already..

This is dying.

I'm still up for it. Though it'd be nicer if more than 10 people were included in the tournament :confused:

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Originally Posted by Emperor Burakuku

This is dying.

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says who??????????

we have pretty much done all the talking that needed to be done. There ain't gonna be that many people but thats not a problem, its the 1st tornament of ANY KIND that has EVER been done for EB.

Expect it to get really crowded after the 2nd, or 3rd torny.

Count me in. Although I only played 2 online battles.
GTM+1

hi lorDBulA sorry for last time got cut off the internet and when I came back on you were gone so sorry for that

also is you name on hamachi lorDBulA and have you had any more thoughs of getting X-fire

added a another rule which is no upgrading attack and maybe defence of any unit as the attack can be upgrade so cheaply and is total unbalances the game as parthians phalanxs beat eporuis best phalanx units head on and still be cheap than them

still to go though the maps and going to do a final check on defence upgrades to check if it's balance

also someone said how will we be able to check if someone cheating well keep your videos of battle and if you dout them winning fair send it to me and maybe other people

also if everyone could take a picture of there starting army to that would be good use grabby to take up to 20 pictures of the battle but don't forget to rename the grabby picture files


http://www.game-master.net/pages/grabby.html

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Originally Posted by king hannibal

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added a another rule which is no upgrading attack and maybe defence of any unit as the attack can be upgrade so cheaply and is total unbalances the game as parthians phalanxs beat eporuis best phalanx units head on and still be cheap than them
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I am glad u noticed. Upgrades really mess up stats.

anyways, is it still mat 22nd?

D.O.A.

(D.O.A. meaning Dead On Arrival, meaning this thread was Dead on Arrival, meaning it's six feet under....)

should have been on the last post about if you cheat you will get a warning for cheating and if you did it again kick from the tornament and then everyone will look at you indisgrace and beat you :shame: :whip: :skull: :laugh4: so don't try and cheat

who say this threads dead :inquisitive: just waiting for it to start might have been better to make the date close but we got test and all so hold your horses till the start date

also thinking of giving this tornament 2 months for first set of battle then see what happens from there hopefully the ture hannibals come though the first month to speed the tornament on to it secound stage

I'm away on the 25nd for a few days sorry so there my be a few battle not on the score sheet for a few days sorry again :oops:

2 exams to go.... :book:

ok good luck with them exams

also if anyone interseted I've make a signture with the link to this thread just to show your support for the tornament

here it is it'll look like my or you could even make a better one you self :yes:

[IMG]https://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i281/

needs there's 2 bit to be added together

kinghannibal/tornamentSmall.jpg[/IMG]

and then on the signture high this and go on insert link and it'll come out like my

ok let get a few last enteries and start the first EB tornament :2thumbsup:

I don't know whether you are going to like this post; but it's spelled tournament, btw.

EDIT: And multiplayer.

k sorry well I think people know what I'm on about

thanks for the heads up

well, I have Xfire. I see the window for it. how do I use it?

Make an user and add our users to you list... then doubleclick on whoever is online and chat... come on man! :laugh4:

I got my name on. but how to get you stoners on?

hi ibrahim they got to be online so that you can see them you also have to use the same server

I'm online on wire less. what server do I need:embarassed:(there are 5 of them in the server part.)

put the EB MP tornament server on the first page at the bottom of my first post I'm on them at the min

put the EB server on first..I'l try that. but you'll have to wait a while. I have some buissness to attend to outside.

Tomorrow I will sign onto XFire and see who all is on. My Xfire is Mulattothrasher. Look me up and I will add you as a friend no problem.

What are the final rules to abide by anyway?

EDIT: Never mind, I see the first post stating the rules....

YEAH BUDDY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
1 more day u mofos.

I can't get the F@#^@ CD to work, I'm really sorry. unless someone can tell me how to fix it, I can't do anything to prevent my inability to enter the tourney.

the CD says there is a cyclic redundancy error when trying to reinstall the Data 2 cab (both my CD's say so). the game stops installing (and spinning in drive) then it gives this bulS$%#..

never mind, I will go to war tomorrow.:smash:

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Originally Posted by Ibrahim

never mind, I will go to war tomorrow.:smash:

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u fixed it?

yep. wasn't pretty though. who wants to play with me first?

So what are the final rules? Can you update first post?
How maps are chosen?

WElcome to the offical start of the first EB tornament

hi

you've have been setup into 2 teams with people that you will most likly be able to play

I've divid us all into 2 groups it seems it's going to be Americans V Americans and Europeans V Europeans with a the finals American V Europe

you will be scored on what victorys you win say you win a close victory you get +1 points and so if you get victory you get +2 to you score and so on

close victory +1
victory +2
clear victory +3
heroic victory +4

group Europe ...........................SCORE...............MEN KILLED...........NUMBER OF BATTLES HAD

King hinnibal ---------------------- ........ ---------- .............. ---------- ................................
Lovejoy 3 ------------------------- ....... ---------- ............... --------- .................................
Burakuku ------------------------- ........ ---------- ............... --------- .................................
wertdengrumme ------------------- ........ ---------- .............. --------- .................................
lorDBula -------------------------- ........ ---------- .............. ---------- .................................

group American..........................SCORE..............MEN KILLED ............NUMBER OF BATTLES HAD

Mulattothrasher ------------------- ........ ---------- .............. ---------- ..................................
1stNeoSpartan -------------------- ........ ---------- .............. ---------- ..................................
Kallinikospalaestinos --------------- ........ ---------- ............. ---------- ..................................
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Hamachi servers have been setup to

server name: EB tornament American --- for the American group
password: EB MP

server name: EB tornament Europe ----- for the Europe group
password: EB MP

RULES

2 matches per person you play

need 2 photos like this of the battles

https://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i...post2Small.jpg

https://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i...tpostSmall.jpg

use this to get up to 20 images of battles but change the names when you've got the photos or they will override the one that you didn't change

http://www.game-master.net/pages/grabby.html

no upgrading attack of any units only +1 defence upgrade to any unit

no upgrading archers-slinger-horse achers Experince

no spamming a few units so, max of 6 units for only 1 unit type of any faction for any main unit that the faction has and then 4 after that of a factions main units types for that army unless you are rome with legionare which can have 10 units, meranaire or auxilaire units no more than 2 for any unit type and finaly no more than 2 units of the same cav

no more than 5 unit types of horse archers with the rule of no more than 2 horse units of any type for nomandic factions ie saka and no more than 1 unit type of horse archer for the other factions?

money is 20000 - 50000 each player get to chose the amount for one battle each within theres bounderys

no red line bordering

maps using and ideas for maps

MAP ALLOWED

macedonian ruins ------------------- should be balanced - hilly
grassy flatland --------------------- flat
syrian flats ------------------------- flat
EB irish east coast ------------------ flatish just slanting up hill on one flank of all map
EB irish marshlands ------------------ flat - few tree for both sides
EB belgica ---------------------- flat treey - in middle of map room to deploy out of trees at sides of map
EB western gual --------------------- one side tilt mound on one flank the other a few trees
EB pripyat marshes ------------------ flat
EB Danube Delta ------------ flatish just slanting up hill on one flank of all map one sides got a few trees

the wild card maps

EB nineveh and the tigris ------------- hills on both sides of flanks race to the middle
sarmatian mound -------------------- race to the middle - mound in middle of map

there's abit few more details on first post like were player are from and when there on
so now your over your hang over get drunk on battle :2thumbsup:

This is not really an answer to my questions.

Quote from rules section.

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hmm I've see that people want the horse achers limited I'm trying to think of a good way to word it
how about this no more than 4-5 unit types of horse archer with the rule of no more than 2 horse units of any type for nomand factions and no more than 1 unit type of horse archer for the other factions?

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This is a question not a statement. How are we suppose to understand it?

Maps, there is a list but again no rules how do we choose maps.
Since we play 2 battles each does each of the players choose one map from the list?

There is no Hamachi network with this name "EB tornament Europe".
There is also no with "EB tournament Europe".

Its all really confusing.

there should be a server called EB tornament Europe I'll try and get someone else to try and join it

k guess the rules are confusing I'll try and word them better

and yes you get 2 battles with someone with them chosing the map and money you will play with first and then you chose them for the secound battle

and so on with all the other players

ok the first EB tornament didn't work so I've created another with the same password and everything try it again wert got on

and I've also reword the horse archer rulle see if you get this

no more than 5 unit types of horse archers with the rule of no more than 2 horse units of any type for nomandic factions ie saka and no more than 1 unit type of horse archer for the other factions?

I'll be there in 5-6hrs...

ok the first battles have been fought between me and lordbula

the results have come

the first battle britions V guals

https://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i...Btornament.jpg

https://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i...ntlordbula.jpg

me as the first winner :beam: the guals smashed though the middle of the british line but there flanks held them and and the british choirts came smashed though the galic lines and mass rout followed

I use grabby for the secound match it was a mass battle 40000

https://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i.../lordbula1.jpg

https://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i.../lordbula2.jpg

the 2 armys manover with the romans in march formation and the eprios in battle formation

https://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i.../lordbula3.jpg

the 2 lines chalsed with the romans in march formation still

https://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i.../lordbula4.jpg

the 2 armys cavarly get around the side of each other army with nice manovering the eiropes counter the romans cav and charge the back of the roman line but with little effected

https://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i.../lordbula5.jpg

with the romans massed on one flank of the eiropes side the flank collapes partly, the epoirs send there other flank troops to help the weakened flank but to little avale

https://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i.../lordbula6.jpg

by now it to late to do anything the romans have killed the epoirs small cavarly force and are in between the lines of the planxes IT's GAME OVER :wall: :wall: :wall: :wall:

https://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i.../lordbula7.jpg

the far flank that is mostly untouch fight on

https://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i.../lordbula8.jpg

they deside to make a last stand and died in glory rather than shame

https://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i...lordbula10.jpg

VICORTIRA TO ROMAN

GG's LORDBULA

2 points to lordbula
3 to kinghannibal

stay tuned for more epic battles and P.S sorry for the spelling

Ok first battle of this tournament is complete.
I can only say that chariots are not useless in battle as was advertised by some on this forum.

https://img58.imageshack.us/img58/9222/0011kz8.jpg
https://img58.imageshack.us/img58/5536/0010jj2.jpg
https://img58.imageshack.us/img58/3723/0009cv2.jpg
https://img58.imageshack.us/img58/43/0008ac6.jpg

of course chariots are useless unless the british are on them :P

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2 points to lordbula
3 to kinghannibal

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Are you sure it is 3 to 2 and not 3 to 1 ?

I have played King Hannibal and Lord Bula so far.

Versus King Hannibal one win and one loss, both clear. It's 3 for me, 3 for King Hannibal.

Versus Lord Bula 2-0, both wins for me clear so I got 3 points.

Very nice games mates. GL to all in the future!

Burakuku vs Hannibal. First gane: 1-0. Clear victory.

https://img120.imageshack.us/img120/...atcheu8.th.jpg



https://img152.imageshack.us/img152/...hwinxe6.th.jpg

Burakuku vs Hannibal. 2nd game: 1-1 Clear defeat for me. (don't have the first shot, I think I forgot to take it but you must have yours).

https://img255.imageshack.us/img255/...losskh5.th.jpg

P.S The 2 units with exp (kataphraktoi and HA) didn't have any exp in the beginning.

Burakuku vs Lord Bula. 2-0 both clear victories.

1st game: Kart Hadast vs Lusotanna - clear victory

https://img442.imageshack.us/img442/...atchvg8.th.jpg

https://img60.imageshack.us/img60/14...hwinlj6.th.jpg

2nd game: Rome vs Makedonia - clear victory

https://img529.imageshack.us/img529/...atchrz8.th.jpg

https://img529.imageshack.us/img529/...hwinue6.th.jpg

I guess I have 6 points from these two games, and 3 from the games vs King Hannibal so I got 9 point in total.

installing EB 1.1......

Glad to know you guys had fun playing some MP games vs. each other. I was on Xfire from about 5pm to 10 pm and nobody arrived to let me know they were ready to play a couple matches.

Maybe things came up with my fellow players from the USA. :cool:

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Originally Posted by Power2the1

Glad to know you guys had fun playing some MP games vs. each other. I was on Xfire from about 5pm to 10 pm and nobody arrived to let me know they were ready to play a couple matches.

Maybe things came up with my fellow players from the USA. :cool:

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Join "EB tournament American" channel on Hamachi - pass: EB MP and ask the guys there for games. Also read the rules posted here on page 2 I think by King Hannibal. GL!

power 2the 1 you missed 2 violent and close run battles: me vs Uriel (Hamachi Ren@). he won a clear victory every time (it was dan close though)
I'll upload photos tommorow.

hey fellas, I went to visit my dad at the hospital after posting the pics of my Aedui Campain.

I should be ready in a 1/2 hour.

p.s XFire: 1stNeoSpartan

I am on the American tournament page of Hamachi, 1stNeoSpartan

My defeats again Emperor Burakuku.

https://img355.imageshack.us/img355/1678/0012rh3.jpg
https://img355.imageshack.us/img355/8186/0013gd6.jpg
https://img355.imageshack.us/img355/8192/0014lt7.jpg
https://img355.imageshack.us/img355/4141/0015dt1.jpg

Today I played against Kallinikospalaestinos and Gaius (he is not in the torney, and I don't know if he wants to be).

Well I beat Gaius, and Kall...

However, I forgot to take pics and Kall was really tired. Anywho... I'll take a nap and I MAY play later in a few hours. OR I will play late in the evening.

oh yes and both times I was the AEDUI! :smash:

Aedui you say... They have Gaesate... Druids... do they have Druids? And do they rush somehow? Through the enemy lines? Aedui... hmm... I have a hunch that the european champion will play you Neo... But I wish GL to all players! :juggle2:

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Originally Posted by Emperor Burakuku

Aedui you say... They have Gaesate... Druids... do they have Druids? And do they rush somehow? Through the enemy lines? Aedui... hmm... I have a hunch that the european champion will play you Neo... But I wish GL to all players! :juggle2:

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ya, no S***..I really can't win a single F**** battle. oh well.

well, i do want to be in it :D

im ready whenever!