You what!?
DETENTION!!!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ray-Allah.html
Public school in, where else, the UK. Well could have been Sweden as well. See this is why I don't like progressive people :dizzy2:
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You what!?
DETENTION!!!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ray-Allah.html
Public school in, where else, the UK. Well could have been Sweden as well. See this is why I don't like progressive people :dizzy2:
Hey, I was punished for not wanting to stand up and profess my christian faith in the army...
1. It didn't happen, so why botherQuote:
Originally Posted by Fragony
2. It happens all the time, so why bother
3. Christians do it too, so nya nya
4. Oh, one UK teacher was out of her depth -> teh End of the Wrlod is Nigh!
That about sums it up, I guess. :coffeenews:
EDIT
No, that apparently does not sum it up. After reading Tribesman's post I should add one more silly response:
5. It's the children's own fault! Befehl ist Befehl!
What is wrong with people? :dizzy2: But the good news is that the teacher might find herself comfortable at a Madrasah™.
And why does it seem like the article was written by an angry teenager?
Because it's the daily mail....Quote:
Originally Posted by Dâriûsh
That's the daily touch :beam:Quote:
Originally Posted by Dâriûsh
Bad newspaper but that doesn't mean it isn't true, hope she gets sacked. Or better, shot. These multiculti guys are like salesguys you can't get rid of. Each day you send them packing, but the next day they are at your door again rubbing the greatest product in the world under your nose. You politily send him packing again, sorry not interested, and next day, there he is again.
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This story is really doing the rounds , they were punished for refusing to pray , they were punished for being disrespectful to allah , they were punished for blah blah blah
These pupils and their parents signed up to a code of conduct .
Follow all intructions in class .
Co-operate fully with your teachers in class .
Do not disrupt any class .
Oh and take responsibilty for your actions .
So they broke three conditions they had agreed to , which kicked in the fourth condition so they cried boo hoo ....end of story
BTW I do like the obligatory I am not a racist I have an Indian friend comment in the Mail article , its also in the BNP article on this story .
Me to, odd that he feels the need to apoligise if he doesn't like it when his kids have to pray to allah on a public school and get punnished if they have doubts.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tribesman
So you can confirm that it's true then Tribes. Thanks for that.
In other news....
Moslems are the neuvaux Jews!
Hmmm....perhaps not. After all, you can change your religion.
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odd that he feels the need to apoligise if he doesn't like it when his kids have to pray to allah on a public school and get punnished if they have doubts.
They didn't get punished for having doubts , they got punished for refusing to take part in a practical demonstration in class , they had agreed as had their parents on admittance to the school that they would follow all instructons in class .
What part of breaking an agreement and facing the consequences is it that you cannot understand ?
Has reading the word "Muslim" kicked in and activated your mental block again ?
If it really happened some people should be reminded what
the freedom of belief is all about.
Which is BTW a bit more important than any signed contracts.
That's odd, in nazi germany you were allowed to critisize jews. I don't understand where he's getting at.
@Tribes, if someone did this over here he would be sacked, tarred and feathered.
It's nonsense.
My boy studied passover at school. So far as I know he still has his foreskin.
The worst that can be said is that the lesson plan could perhaps have been clearer that they were learning about muslim religious practice rather than carrying it out. Although to be honest I suspect that was entirely clear, and the Daily Filth has conveniently forgotten to report that bit.
Never forget this was the paper that supported the Nazi party and complained bitterly about allowing Jewish refugees into Britain.
But Fragony you keep telling us that you live in Dutchiestan where the multiculchies run everything and you have no choice but to comply with their evil designs , surely in Dutchiestan it would be the kids getting tarred and feathered , their parents having their tongues cut out and the teacher getting promotion to the highest office of education :laugh4::laugh4::laugh4::laugh4:Quote:
@Tribes, if someone did this over here he would be sacked, tarred and feathered.
Ah well Apache as for the truth it appears there is a lot more to it than meets the eye , where did this story come from ?Quote:
So you can confirm that it's true then Tribes. Thanks for that.
The mail was it ? hmmmm...they own the local paper too don't they so it must be the local paper:no:
But what do we see there ? a nice visit by a bunch of racists whose newspaper then just happens to run a story :yes:
So the truth of it is rather murky isn't it , I did wonder why the Mail didn't say who had written the "news" article:laugh4::laugh4::laugh4:
Telepgraph has same story http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2247...-Allah%27.html
And it isn't like the UK isn't absolutily insane.
@Tribes, we have our fair share of lunatics but the leftist church as a whole isn't nowhere as devout as in the UK and Sweden.
Hey Frag ....Quote:
Telepgraph has same story
its even being reported in Alaska:dizzy2:Quote:
This story is really doing the rounds
Whats that thing they do called the google bomb or something , you know where they manipulate the system so that when you do a search on a subject some crackpot nazi website comes up as the #1 match for the story ?:inquisitive:
I am aware of the reputation of the Daily Mail but the Telegraph isn't so bad no? Let's just assume it's true for now, can't understand you have no problems with it, I wonder what your reaction would be if they had to hail Xenu, well I don't really wonder at all what your reaction would be but maybe you should. We all have a blind spot somewhere huh?
Leftist church in Sweden? Are you confusing "leftist church" with "the majority of swedes"?Quote:
Originally Posted by Fragony
If the majority of the swedes falls for that pc-crap :juggle2:Quote:
Originally Posted by HoreTore
Well if they was making them actually pray to allah or any other thing then I would have a problem , but as they wasn't there is no problem at all .Quote:
Let's just assume it's true for now, can't understand you have no problems with it
The problem you have with this is that you are not getting upset at the actual incident , you are getting upset at what the incident is falsly being portrayed as .
Now forgive mefor not having your "sensibiities" but I tend to not get upset about a bunch of bollox that is portrayed as something that it isn't , I get pissed at the people who try and make it something that it isn't .
Fair enough, hope you are right. But let's not forget that we are talking the UK here, I can totally see this happening there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tribesman
Wouldn't right about now be a good time for a UK Imam to chime in, objecting to an infidel teacher play-acting acts seen as sacred?
When they studied Roman Catholicism, did they serve wafers and wine?
Will there be bonfire-sex when paganism is covered?
You're right. I'm bitter that we didn't 'role play' Baccanalia in RE. A Roman orgy or two might have prevented me from 'wagging it' in the fourth form. :embarassed:
I agree completely with IA. Especially when the memories of my 25 year old hottie religion teacher with a bum to die for comes flowing back.....
Come to think of it, I have an urgent appointment....somewhere....excuse me, I'll be back in 15 minutes.
Right now would be a good time to acknowledge that it hasn't been downplayed yet, it's ignored by the self-declared quality media so the dailymail story is true; "it's the dailymail after all". If they could shoot they would.
The Telegraph has had it for hours now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fragony
Was led to believe that it's a non-quality newpaper as well? Linked it hours ago. But tell me bubba you seem to become wiser with age lately, what do you make of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Adrian II
I think that so-called spokespeople of Muslims and non-Muslims are playing the sensitivity game. Muslim spokesbeards are outraged over piggy bank ads, BNP spokesslapheads are outraged over 'obligatory praying to Allah'. It's an industry.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fragony
I blame television.
hoho, none of those apply here, what we are seeing here is the much more dangerous multiculti-masochism that leads to self-islamisation. The craving for concensus and the rigidness of faith, the collaboration of those living the dream, it's a cancer that is starting to corrupt vital organs such as schools.Quote:
Originally Posted by Adrian II
edit, you are focussing on the silly extremists while the middle ground is being swept from under our feet by perfectionists who think they are idealists, cultural relativism is the real danger.
What the hell kind of lesson about islam forces the children to kneel down and pray, even if just simulation? And what kind of system forces children to take part?
Pathetic. It really shows how far he's willing to go.. :yes:Quote:
No, that apparently does not sum it up. After reading Tribesman's post I should add one more silly response:
5. It's the children's own fault! Befehl ist Befehl!
I guess according to tribesman, if the headmaster wanted to demonstrate with some of the pupils during sex-ed class, it would be their fault as they registered for school and agreed to be polite and do what they were told! What a logical breakdown... :dizzy2:
ah frak it
If I had been in their situation, I would have refused. I learned a little about Islam when I was in school and my knees never hit the ground for it.
The same system that takes children to church to teach them about christianity, I'd guess...Quote:
Originally Posted by PanzerJaeger
That's the decision of the parents, and they're still not forcing the child to pray.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoreTore
Now a school forcing an islamic child to do christian prayers, watch everyone who thinks this is ok grow disgusted by such a blatant breach of individual liberty.Quote:
Originally Posted by Evil_Maniac From Mars
I wish having a black butler would become fashionable again. Bored white people, not good.
No.... Some schools use the same manner of teaching ass this school, when they teach about christianity...Quote:
Originally Posted by Evil_Maniac From Mars
EDIT: I still remember having to sing "Du som metter liten fugl"(roughly "you who feed the small bird", a norwegian psalm or something) before lunch in my first years of school. And that was mandatory.
the situation is idiocy on the teachers part, she was wrong to use her influence as a teacher to coerce her students into doing something they clearly felt incompatible with their beliefs, and doubly wrong to try and punish the children for not doing what they were told rather than stepping back from the first glaring error in her conduct.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tribesman
Fragony seems to take his Swedish news from gates of vienna, who belongs to those groups that reports everything that says what they already knew (irrelevant if true or not) and ignores the rest.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoreTore
We had it, admittably it was on the manditory study-visit of the local church. Alchohol-free wine though, tasted crap. We also had bible studies, mainly from a kid version that didn't contain the uhm "darker" parts amoung other things. Had pictures though.Quote:
Originally Posted by KukriKhan
Never had to pray.
If it happened as told it certainly sounds over the top, although it would be needed to know how the teacher teached to other religions to know if he was simply generally going over the top with all religions or Fragony got a reason for going "The Muslims are coming and the PC crowd is their fifth column"... Personally I suspect that they will be exactly as effective as the original fifth column.
You do see a lot about sweden there. Used to be vikings. Now don't inviting someone to your party is enough to get them bouncing against eachother in apologetic terror. Sweden is the biblebelt of political correctness an absolute joke for a country. And hot chicks with disproportionatily fat necks but nobody's perfect.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ironside
First of all, source, second of all, are these schools, by chance, Catholic schools? You know, where if you're not Catholic and you go there, it's your own choice?Quote:
Originally Posted by HoreTore
Right on. No Muslim student should be forced to pray in the Christian manner either, and I get the feeling HoreTore would be a lot more worked up if this was the case.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fragony
The one I went to, Mjøndalen Skole, for example. The source would be, well, me. It's the public school, and there are no alternatives to it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Evil_Maniac From Mars
Also, our minister of education was sacked in part because of the controversy when he said that praying in school was unacceptable...
Bah, I get upset whenever I see worshiping of any kind in school. However, I don't believe that this is a sign of the apocalypse or some sort of conspiracy to overthrow society...Quote:
Right on. No Muslim student should be forced to pray in the Christian manner either, and I get the feeling HoreTore would be a lot more worked up if this was the case.
Kids having to pray to allah in a public school? I think scandinavia and the uk should be given up anyway nothing worth keeping anymore but geez.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoreTore
Anything recent, to suggest this is happening now in Britain?Quote:
Originally Posted by HoreTore
I'm norwegian; I care not for the barbarians living on some tiny island...Quote:
Originally Posted by Evil_Maniac From Mars
Oh please... :wall:Quote:
Originally Posted by Fragony
The kids had to pretend to 'pray' as part of a lesson about religion, not as part of a plan to convert them. The teacher handled it wrong, obviously. I think that is all there was to it - except that in today's poisoned atmosphere such incidents are blown out of all proportion.
What....for..... Only because the difficulty in folding the islam under our wings collides with the multicultural dream and those that believe can't accept that, so they try to alter the reality in which it has to settle.Quote:
Originally Posted by Adrian II
Why not? Role play helps you understand social phenomena. I did it at my school. Kids all over the world do it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fragony
There is no need to get hysterical over it, unless you subscribe to Fragony's and Louis' hysterical notions that Islam is taking over Europe and the European Commission is its main vehicle. That's tinfoil hat territory, gentlemen.
No it is not tin foil hat territory it is very much real, islam isn't taking over europe people like you are giving it away without a fight. And you can't even see it and that amazes me to no end. Every value is negotionable for you, that is why there will be nothing left.Quote:
Originally Posted by Adrian II
Can we have a small reality check?
Requiring children to receive religious instruction (NB, not to learn about religion) is contrary to Art 2 Protocol 1 of the ECHR.
So, seriously, anyone who was MADE to pray at school: see a lawyer. (I mean really made to pray, as in, your parents said they didn't want that, and the school forced you to do it).
Anyone?
No. Somehow, I thought not.
Oh, and Frag, the most recent case on it is Zengin v Turkey, where it was mandatory instruction in Islam that was ruled unlawful. So its not one rule for Muslims and another for the rest.
Read and enjoy: http://cmiskp.echr.coe.int/tkp197/vi...103&highlight=
The key part of that statement is highlighted. Turkey is part of Christian Europe since when?Quote:
Originally Posted by English assassin
Its quite strange to force children to kneel and pray against their will, roleplay or not. I went to private Catholic school in America and even they cannot force you to do anything religious that you were uncomfortable with. Maybe its an American thing..Quote:
Originally Posted by Adrian II
Why would that be typically American? France for instance is very insistant on this sort of liberty, more so than the United States. It wouldn't be tolerated in The Neds either.Quote:
Originally Posted by PanzerJaeger
The UK teacher just handled it badly, she should not have forced the kids. Her mistake is not an indictment of role play, Islam, or religious education.
Every now and then the same sort of hullabaloo arises when teachers want to role-play the nazi era with their pupils. Some kids are cast in nazi roles, others in those of Jews. It is only a matter of time before some stoopid parent who doesn't get it alarms the authorities because "my kid is indoctrinated with nazism!".
The only good answer is https://img355.imageshack.us/img355/...lsmileyqq2.gif
I think you are confusing me with someone else.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fragony
Do I have to remind you that Turkey has a fiercily secular tradition? Maybe we should welcome them in the EU after so our politicans don't feel so burdened by common sense. You are english and I need a reality check? Head of the justice department just declared his love for the implementation of the sharia in the brittish justice sytem, you missed that?Quote:
Originally Posted by English assassin
Yeah! I'm stoned as well. :egypt:
They can't? In Catholic schools over here they force their pupils to bend over five times a day.Quote:
Originally Posted by PantieJaeger
Adrian probably went to a Catholic school too, he still remembers how good Catholic pupils answer their teacher's requests for some roleplaying Catholic School style:
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Originally Posted by Adrian II
Well, I would have either refused or completely ridiculed it but then we never had such stupid demonstrations anyway, it's not like we had no idea what kneeling is. :dizzy2:
That said I also refused to do this or that for various reason but the only real punishment was usually a worse grade.
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Originally Posted by Louis VI the Fat
A typo I'm sure.. :lam:
Anyway, in both my elementary and high schools (two different Catholic schools), forced participation wasn't allowed.
This whole story reads to me like a teacher decided to introduce a novel, and a little misguided, concept of hands on learning, the class clowns saw an opportunity to prance about and make a scene, the teacher lost control and started handing out detentions.
Its a total non-story, but I do know an RE teacher and I'll ask her if forced conversions to Islam are part of the national curriculum. Incidentally, I was made to close my eyes, lower my head and clasp my hands whilst saying amen for thirteen years of my life, and it didn't make a Christian out of me, If I'd refused I most likely would have got detention, and it certainly wouldn't have made the national papers - but then again, back in the day when you got detention you tried to keep it secret from your parents, rather than running home and getting them to commission you a human rights lawyer.
In the first sentence of the article the words pray to Allah are put in parentheses indicating, at least to my mind, that praying to Allah isn't what is going on. If some kids refused to do so then the teachers response should have been “fair enough, sit it out”. However as I pointed out above, the teacher seems to have lost it – we don't know the whole story, these two kids could have been real swine, who needled the teacher at every opportunity. I know my class at school always saw the RE teachers as easy marks, and driving them into a frenzy was a sort of mass participation sport. After all, which parent cares if their kid is falling behind in RE, whilst doing well in Maths, Science and English (or whatever heathen language foreigners might be taught?).
Its all just a massive storm in a tea cup.
Technical note: A public school in the UK is one that you pay to send your kiddies to (above and beyond taxation)* so that they can learn the proper accent and form the cliques early on that are necessary to the correct governance of these islands. I'm not sure what the schools that the proletariat swarm to are called. Primary for the nippers and Secondary once you hit 11 – 12? Grammar schools needed you to pass a test, but I think they got done away with universally a long time ago.
Off Topic by far my favorite quote in the linked article is this one:
If I ever have any kids to send to school, I hope it will be with the thought “I hope they don't learn enough information to do them any harm...”Quote:
The Article
"I haven't got a problem with them teaching my child other religions and a small amount of information doesn't do any harm.”
*Although if you can afford to send your brat to “public” school, you can probably afford a tax lawyer who can cut your tax bill to that of your 16th century forefather, whilst claiming retrospective compensation for the trade monopolies your family lost when the Dutch performed their coup d'etat in 1688.
This topic is hilarious , so many of the usual suspects getting their panties all twisted up with their outrage over a total non-story :laugh4::laugh4::laugh4::laugh4:
:laugh4::laugh4::laugh4::laugh4:logical breakdown:laugh4::laugh4::laugh4::laugh4::laugh4::laugh4:Panzer you have suffered a complete breakdown of your logic circuit there:laugh4::laugh4::laugh4::laugh4::laugh4:Quote:
I guess according to tribesman, if the headmaster wanted to demonstrate with some of the pupils during sex-ed class, it would be their fault as they registered for school and agreed to be polite and do what they were told! What a logical breakdown...
Errrrrr..... lets see if I was tribesman if the headmaster wanted to do something illegal it would be entirely in accordance with the school policy and code of conduct that the teachers pupils and parents had agreed too :yes:
Yes Panzer your logic really needs fixing .
The only time I ever prayed to Mecca was in protest of taking my first communion at age eight. I may have had my quarrels with the almighty, but god help me if I disobeyed my Parents. I couldn't watch TV or play video games for two weeks...
i am a product of the grammar school system, and there are still about 150 left in Great Britain.Quote:
Originally Posted by RabidGibbon
there are loads currently in northern ireland, which is why the educational standards are so high, but in the interests of equality-of-outcome they are being banished as they produce children too clever to fit in with the regimented masses of illiterate twits that are considered the benchmark of british achievement.
Yes quite .Quote:
i am a product of the grammar school system
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKzi_JlrdEY:laugh4::laugh4::laugh4:
You can face the almighty on even terms, but your Parents outnumber you 2-1, and are thus to be feared.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wakizashi
err, yes, I did miss that. That's because it didn't happen.Quote:
Head of the justice department just declared his love for the implementation of the sharia in the brittish justice sytem, you missed that?
I remember the Archbishop of Canterbury saying he thought it would be an idea if some disputes between muslims could be resolved having regard to Sharia. This caused the predictable :daisy:-storm, all of which was entirely misplaced because:
1. Jews have had religious courts in the UK for ages without the world ending, and
2. Anyone can already have any contractual dispute they like resolved in accordance with any set of laws they like, provided they agree, and have a passing familiarity with the Arbitration Act, (here's how the Beth Din does it: http://www.theus.org.uk/the_united_s...in/litigation/), and
3 Rowan Williams is a bearded idiot, and nothing to do with the British Justice system.
Frag, old chum, I'm active in secularist societies, have no love for religion full stop, and certainly no love for religion in any form in schools, but this story is about one badly planned lesson, not a hidden plan to have us all worshipping Allah. What I am saying is I am entirely with your prejudices on this one, but the facts just don't support you.
Come on EA you can understand Frags mistake , it was widely reported as that , the fact that it isn't that at all shouldn't stand in the way of his phobia .Quote:
err, yes, I did miss that. That's because it didn't happen.
Just like when Williams made his speech the claims about what he said were not about what he said at all .
But tell me as I am quite thick . This new thing where two parties in civil disputes can agree to arbitration through a third party in accordance with British law (well English/Welsh law) , how comes they invented it recently and sneaked it up on the people without anyone knowing anything about it ?:inquisitive:
I mean it must be a very new thing or the outrage would have been going on for years and the media wouldn't bother with centuries old news would they .
The fact that isn't true, gimme.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tribesman
At EA, wanted to post it the the weird thread but you can only do that to Lemur so many times. It is indeed just a stupid teacher but still everyone feels the need to defend it, I think the stupidity of this pretty much needs no flowers to impress. But we all have a blind spot somewhere.
Don't we tribes.
The fact Frag is that you are getting your panties all twisted over nothing.Quote:
The fact that isn't true, gimme.
You claimed
But what he said was ....Quote:
Head of the justice department just declared his love for the implementation of the sharia in the brittish justice sytem, you missed that?
Now you only have to read 1:1:a&b to know that , its a long standing piece of legislation that was last amended 12 years ago without any fuss whatsoever .Quote:
It is possible in this country for those who are entering into a contractual agreement to agree that the agreement shall be governed by a law other than English law. Those who, in this country, are in dispute as to their respective rights are free to subject that dispute to the mediation of a chosen person, or to agree that the dispute shall be resolved by a chosen arbitrator or arbitrators.
Now you can go further into it if you want but each step you take just weakens your arguement which was extremely weak to the point of non existant in the first place .:yes:
The only issue about the whole subject is that nowadays if anyone even remotely mentions sharia or Islam in relation to a subject you get the Muslims under the bed crowd shouting crazy stuff without the faintest idea what they are shouting about .
Ah we aren't talking anymore about kids having to pray to allah. As for that jurist thing, talking and doing are two different things and he can implement nothing, but doesn't exactly make a secret about his disposition, sharia law, why not. So quit on why do england is obsessed with muslims.
oh, and before you say I am obsessed, I am not the one suggesting police dogs should wear special socks when they are looking for explosives or drugs on enriched grounds.
And why that is silly, from a muslim no less http://www.city-journal.org/2008/18_1_snd-west.html
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Ah we aren't talking anymore about kids having to pray to allah.
we never were talking about kids having to pray , its a non event , nonsense , complete crap , it never happened , no one had to pray to anything :dizzy2: We were talking about a bollox "news" story
:laugh4::laugh4::laugh4::laugh4::laugh4::laugh4: blue moomins law , why not ? As long as it isn't against the law and is carried out in accordance with the British laws ?Quote:
As for that jurist thing, talking and doing are two different things and he can implement nothing, but doesn't exactly make a secret about his disposition, sharia law, why not.
Yet again another non-story . We were not talking about his disposition . We were talking about how you writing .......is a perfect example of complete nonsense .Quote:
Head of the justice department just declared his love for the implementation of the sharia in the brittish justice sytem, you missed that?
That's the fun thing ahout newspapers Tribes, if they lie they get charged and they have to pull it back. Especially a newspaper like the daily mail, especially a newspaper like the daily mail especially in a country like the UK. That makes them the most reliable newspaper of the UK, because they would have been absolutily destroyed otherwise.
I like your style sir :laugh4: A quick google does indeed reveal that the first Arbitration Act was passed in 1889. A further google reveals that Scott v Avery, the case which established that you could oust the jurisidiction of the courts with an arbitration clause, so that all the court may do is enforce the award, (which may have been arrived at in accordance with the law of Mongolia if the parties so chose) was decided in 1865.Quote:
This new thing where two parties in civil disputes can agree to arbitration through a third party in accordance with British law (well English/Welsh law) , how comes they invented it recently and sneaked it up on the people without anyone knowing anything about it ?
I mean it must be a very new thing or the outrage would have been going on for years and the media wouldn't bother with centuries old news would they
So, only 140 years old or so.
If we didn't have this dangerously enlightened approach to people deciding how to settle their own disputes we would lose a lot of international arbitration work from London, and a lot of highly paid lawyers would lose their jobs, which would be an absolute tragedy as I am sure we all agree. :clown:
If you see it like that it's pure beauty to me. But that kinda ends when it involves somebody else not being able to decide to do it his way, like kidshaving to pray to allah and get detention when they refuse for example, and much much more.Quote:
Originally Posted by English assassin
Honestly Frag , you ain't that dumb are ya ?
One last time .
No one had to pray , no one got detention for not praying , end of story.
And as for that law , no one can be forced into anything , its a position two people can choose to take if they both agree to it .
It isn't hard to understand , or is it ?
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That's the fun thing ahout newspapers Tribes, if they lie they get charged and they have to pull it back.
they ran the story friday Frag , if the parties involved decide to take action nothing will happen till monday, then after that it will be a matter of weeks if not months upon which point you will get a small one line item on about page 27 .:dizzy2:
But probably they won't bother as they may go on the basis of only an idiot would believe the BNP or Mail so it isn't really worth the effort
No it's not hard to understand you say it didn't happen, so gimme something that proves it didn't happen.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tribesman
Fragony, I can't believe that you support the forced deportation of all Muslim immigrants, including women and children.
que?Quote:
Originally Posted by Adrian II
Sir, I also like your style.Quote:
Originally Posted by Adrian II
Frag, his point is that if we are going to sound off about things no one said, where will it all end?
Its relativism gone mad, I tells you.
It is indeed relativism gone bad, that is the point I keep making. But you are relativating relativism, I am just relativating.
I have deconstructed your posts and detect a deep-seated attraction to authoritarian and aribitrary belief systems with the strength to impose their will on others regardless of the others wishes.
In short, Frag, you are a muslim. The more you deny it the clearer it becomes. :laugh4: