The world that once every one knew was quickly vanishing. Quickly growing nations of around the Middle East, India, Asia Minor, and Africa have wiped out of all independent cities. Growing there empires off small bumps in the road. This was known the Progress Era. It though, Abruptly ended when there was no more smaller kingdoms left.
Every nation now turning to their borders, Seeing that the next movement they take would cause a major war this time, and leave there kingdom defenseless for another kingdom to attack. Now, Powers are at their peak in Military. With no words being spoke to other kingdoms, An uneasy rest came to all, not knowing when they will be invaded.
To all of the eastern kingdoms, the war between the Hindus and the Ghorid Empire have come to a standoff. If the Ghorid Empire now invades India. Then the Ghorids may be in fact one of the strongest nations in the world.
To the west of the Ghorid Empire, The Ghaznavids are now possibly looking at a two front war. With the Sindh rallying up the troops by their borders. and the Shahs doing random raids against small towns. The Ghaznavids are at a truce with the Ghorids, after a very long stalemate battle, gaining no lands and losing over half of the military a piece, For the Ghaznavids. This gets rid of one front.
To the center of the Middle East. There are no wars, Though, Small skirmishes on the Abassid Caliphate border and the Seljuk Turks. Georgia, having a rather large very well equipped army at the borders. No one knows if it is an invasion force, or a defense force.
In Africa. The Ayyubid Sultanate, once the strongest nation of the Nile, is being repelled back by one of the first African Empires. Muraka. This empire has grown from dust into a dangerous threat, taking over valuable trade posts to the Omans. and taking more ground from the Ayyubid Sultanate from Migration. The great leader of the Ayyubid Sultanate people now sets an elite army to the south, to scare away the hordes of African people,
The holy city of Jerusalem now being well under the Crusader's power. After their major victory against the Ayyubid Sultanate of Homs castle. Though, not attacking the Ayyubid Sultanate’s Damascus due to a "Cease Fire". Though, nobody knows how long peace will keep, Perhaps they are just waiting for France's army of Crusaders spotted off the coast of Iraklion to land, and break the stale mate of the Ayyubid Sultanate.
A tad bit up the north lays the Proud "Principality of Antioch." This was a result of two smaller kingdoms, The Kingdom of Antioch, and the Kingdom of Armenia. Merging due to rivals enemies. Once after they merged. They attacked the Abassid Caliphate , Winning a victory and gaining a defensive buffer zone, Aleppo. Though... The Abassid Caliphate only have towns past Aleppo, With a large poorly equipped army now at the border of the two countries, who knows if it is an invading force, or an army quickly formed to stop the might of the Antioch and Armenian people.
To the North West corner. The Turks now looking what to do, After their quick victory over a Roman Castle at the borders, while the Romans were distracted by a call that a Possible Attack from France to the island of Iraklion. The Romans are no stranger to wars in Europe. Considering that now they Divide their empire's military force. An event like this happened more than half a century ago. The western front at war with Hungry and Venice. The eastern at a dead lock between the Russians, the Turks, and any passing Crusader armies.
To the Arabian Coast line, the trade like country of the Imamate of Oman have built more of a trade empire than a military. Bribing cities to join their empire for a "Few coins" Now that they control almost the whole coast of Arabia to the Indian Ocean. They have migrated north into the Sindh lands. Possibly provoking the Sindhs, To the south, The Arabians are met with the Ayyubid Sultanate, and a rather large forces called in at the threat of the Imamate of Oman. Now they protect one of the holy cities Mecca with their lives. of course, Being a trader at best, means not being military at best. They have lost their trade outposts on the Horn of Africa, and a small island trade posts to the African nations.
The Omans now just entering the new fear of what the world has already been experiencing for the last few years. They call for a meeting for all empires to come to, At the small port city of Sur, located at the northern Arabian coast line. Easy to get to by ships from any where the Indian ocean touches. They now invite all nations to come and to discuss things easier than before. The building planning to be used is a Noble's second house, Though, The government has taken away that man's second house and declared it a Diplomatic Center. Being only a hand full of guards at the building, and a natural trade center. They hope to now, have the impossible be done, Having sent out invitations to all the empires, and have all empires sit down, and Talk.
There would be a lone Oman diplomat that was fairly young at a table with 16 chairs, Waiting for the other diplomats to come in, Seeing that no one was their yet, or even any one was going to come, He eat foods that the king supplied the house of diplomats, and took long naps right at the diplomatic table, In his opinion, No one would come out this far to just talk.
07-27-2008, 17:47
Chaotix
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A tall, light-skinned man, wearing distinctly European clothing strides into the hall.
"Greetings, ambassadors of all the great nations of the East!"
The man then notices that the room is empty save for an Arab shoving handfuls of grapes into his mouth.
"Errr... ambassador, I suppose I should say."
The Omani diplomat continues to eat, not saying a word.
"I guess that I should introduce myself, then. I am Henri de Marseille, ambassador of the Holy Kingdom of Jerusalem."
The Arab, having finished off the bowl of grapes, lets his head fall to the table and starts to snore.
The man then sits down as far away as possible from his sleeping companion, slightly disconcerted at the lack of recognition he has received so far....
07-27-2008, 17:54
Thermal
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A messenger has rode his black stalion all the way from kiev on the orders of the mighty khan, he finds a long hall in which he is instructed to enter...
upon arrival the Khans faithful srvant sees a greedy man eating and drinking exotic wines and foods, as well as a strange outlanderish fellow quite in the corner wearing a cross around his neck
'i was told this was an important meeting, not a restraunt!'
his words are said with such authority that the few people in the room look at him, the Omani messenger puts his food down and addresses the messenger...
07-27-2008, 18:03
Merlox
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The man would stop eating, and try to up himself in Postier alertedly.
Greetings Noble Diplomats of... uhhh... of far away lands!, The Sultan of Imamate of Oman sends many thanks to you for coming forth to talk!, You may enjoy your stay here, knowing that you did come from.. uhh.. very far away! but, Please note that you can choose any of the 15 bedrooms that isn't occupied in the upper floor, Also, the Sultan encurages you to relax yourselves. This is some what of the reason why he picked the Port City of Sur.
The Young arab diplomat claps his hands twice, and so forth two bowls of grapes and two golden cups of wine brought to the Jerusalem Diplomat and the Russian one..
Now we wait to see if any one else comes...
07-27-2008, 18:08
luigithepizzaman
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then the turkish diplomat walks powerfully into the room
and begins to eye up possible friends and foe, afterwards breaking the akward silence that had took hold with a strong powerfull welcome to everyone who had made it so far.
and then brought up the question.
'when are the others making it here?'
07-27-2008, 18:14
Merlox
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The young arab diplomat sighed.
They will be coming, Until they, if you wish to talk to eachother you may.
The Young arab would clap his hands again, and another bowl of grapes and a golden cup of wine would be brought to the turkish diplomat. The young arab would be no longer acting like a slob.
07-27-2008, 18:21
Thermal
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the kypchak messenger belches and frowns havin tasted these strange 'grape' fruits, he spits this fruit out and demands better food...
'what do u call this? are yuo trying to poison us!'
the kypchak messenger begins to anger, but looks on hoping tht more respect 4 him is shown, he starts to admire the turkish diplomat as he seems to be the only other in the room with a backbone
07-27-2008, 18:34
Merlox
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The Arab seeing that his the diplomatics seem alittle more... barbaric than would have expected.
"One second Gentlemen... I must order up some Meat... I sense that you are not the type that enjoys grapes... Though, I wish for you to please remain calm. This is a room of talk. If you do any thing that could danger any one... I will have you suspended from this house of Diplomacy, and to be escorted to another inn that will be payed by the most generous sultan himself. And ofcourse the newest guard orders in place, That is the second highest from the sultan's guards himself to keep us all safe if any thing is to happen."
The young diplomat would point toward the door, and by it stood two heavily armored and heavily armed guards.
07-27-2008, 18:42
Thermal
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the kypchak messenger is feeling quite vunerable now, he is unarmed and feels hard done by, he responds by saying 'how dare you, not all pagans are barbaric, i just expect intelligent company, something your failing to give, your testing my patiences fool' to this the Omani dipomat is making an important decision on whether he should stay, he looks at the kypchak and analyzes the situation (his attitude may be blunt but he is unarmed...) hmmmm...
07-27-2008, 18:51
luigithepizzaman
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the turkish diplomat begins to laugh watching the strong ackward conversation unfold.
but begins to think its think to interveen
'look my friends we are here to talk not to fight'
'lets get alittle friendlyer before coming to blows'
07-27-2008, 18:52
Merlox
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The young diplomat sighed again
I see. These gaurds are only here to protect what is most important to the sultan. And there are only 4 out of 16 here at the moment.. we are waiting until the full roster gets here before we start...
07-27-2008, 19:23
Ibn-Khaldun
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Doors open and in the room a well dressed man enters. He is followed by some servants and couple of personal bodyguards.
He bows to the other ambassadors and then says with a strong and confident voice..
Greetings Ambassadors,
I am The Caliph of Abbasid Caliphate and the Defender of Islam.
Our nation do not like wars so we hope peace will be between us and our neighbors.
But there are still some things that needs to be cleared out.
He turns to the Ambassador from Oman...
Our southern neighbors..
We hope that we can establish trade and an alliance between our two nation.
We have no territorial claims to you and there for we will welcome you as brothers..
He bows slightly to Oman's ambassador..
But our other neighbors..
To our northern neighbors, The Great Seljuks and The Kingdom of Georgia, we have no territorial claims either and there for I also hope trade and alliances will be established.
But we have some issues with The Armenian Kingdom because we consider Aleppo as one of our provinces. So we hope that we can find a peaceful solution to this matter.
Also.. We consider Diyarbakir and Malatya, these are held by the Turkish Sultanate at the moment, as our provinces. But I hope that we can work something out with them also. Privately of course..
To our eastern neighbor.. The Malikate of Sindh..
Shiraz and Firuzabad belonged to our empire before they rebelled against our power..
It is most unfortunate that Sindhs rulers captured them before us and thus making things little bit complicated.. I hope that they come to their senses and will agree to leave from these two provinces..
Servant gives a glass of water to the Caliph and once he finished drinking he continued..
With all others.. We are open for trade..
There are some other things I must mention..
We will not tolerate NO spies and especially assassins in our lands..
If someone wants to move their agents through our lands then they must ask our permission for that before they do it..
Also .. sending merchants to our lands without trade rights could complicate our relations with their rulers..
If we find some agent or merchant in our land that have no right to be there then they shall be executed..
He stops for a moment and then continues..
But now I must leave...
My trusted friend, Mahmud, will stay here to represent us...
After saying that we bows to the gathered and turns around to leave..
07-27-2008, 19:36
Merlox
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The young diplomat raises up.
Ahhh! Finally one of a proper man! , Yes, This sounds one of thE most generous proposals yet in this room! I accept on behalf of the great sultan of the Arabian Coast!
The young diplomat bows to the well gifted Ambassador.
07-27-2008, 19:42
Ibn-Khaldun
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The Abbasid Caliph heard the Oman's ambassador just before he left the room and turned around..
We are generous people.. he smiles.. I am happy to hear that You accept our proposal.. some others probably will not be so happy he smiles again..
But now I have to go..
Turning to Mahmud he says..
Take a seat among the other ambassadors and serve me well!
Saying that he turned and left the room..
07-27-2008, 20:22
Merlox
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A well sized greek man entered in the court, His face obviously showed that he did not want to come.
I have not come here to eat, drink, or talk about useless things!, I am here to tell people what the Roman Emperor wants and that is all, And first of all, let's get this straight Turk Scum!
The greek man turned to the turk.
No reason in hell that The empire of Rome will even think an alliance of your scum filthy people. We have moved more troops to the borders to make sure that these Turks do not steal another settlement from us!, I demand that the old castle will be returned, and the Armies of the Turk scum to leave all military from our borders! If they know what is good for them!
Then the greek man turned again the the Russians.
You Barbarians are threatning our northern border, I demand you pull all of your troops out from the border! To make sure we are CLEAR on that I have moved more troops to my northern front. So get the hell out of thier stupid barbarian!
Then he turned to the Kingdom of Jerusalem's diplomat
I demand that your navy of your crusading pigs keep sailing toward your capital, If they dare look at our lands your navy will be sunk and your crusading pig army Beheaded, Every last one!
The greek man walked to the young Oman Diplomat, that was already shaking in fear of the Roman Diplomat, and sat a chair one away from him.
"Thank you for having this meeting held, As the Roman Empire, We wish you good fortunes, for this meeting has been able to tell these animals of what they should be doing."
He would be silenced by the servents coming giving him a bowl of grapes, a cooked meat, and a glass of wine, With no sign of the russain getting his cooked meat.
07-27-2008, 20:40
Chaotix
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The ambassador of Jerusalem looks slightly insulted at the Roman diplomat's words.
"I assure you, sir, the King of Jerusalem and his crusaders have absolutely no designs on your lands. And here I thought I would have a good Christian friend at this meeting. In fact, wasn't it your Emperor who requested assistance against the Muslims in the holy land not 50 years ago? The Kingdom does not wish war on you at all, rather I seem to remember that we were still assisting you in the Turkish wars until their recent peace. We wish to renew our trade rights and alliance with the Roman Empire."
He then turns to address the Caliph's emissary.
"And with that 'misunderstanding' taken care of, we would be happy to trade with your Caliphate at the current time. However, if at any time you go to war with an ally of the Kingdom, we will be forced to cancel trade. You do seem quite a peaceable nation, however. I am sure we have nothing to worry about."
And with that, Henri de Marseille seats himself again, still alone due to the lack of friendly Christians.
07-27-2008, 20:44
Thermal
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My Khan has sent a message on this news:
NEVER has the Khan ever been so insulted! you threaten the mighty turks, my khan and The fine crusaders,ha, this is laughable! YOU WILL B ANNAILATED! our people are usually peaceful, but we see peace is not an opinion here, your crumbling empire will dissapear this instance! is your emperor on drugs? i see a senisible ruler would not make such empty threats, The mighty turks have been targeted by you, and possibly the abbasids! there reknown reputation is better than that of your emperor! your countless defeats will continue and i DECLARE that the turks will form an ALLAINCE with me! for mutual protection, of course it is your descision as i no our people have had quarrels in the past, but we see eye to eye, also if the kharezm shah will accept, i would offer an allaince to them to, as im sure were awaer of the upcoming mongolian threat, I would also add me are nations both with large land mass and potential, please consider.
I have no quarels with you either georgia, and i feel trade rights is our first way for progress
but for the ERE there is no mercy, i do not want this to make other nation beleive we are reckless, but only authortive, as im sure your aware of the Eastern Roman pigs threats, i truely didnt want this to happen, and not so soon, our lands mean much to us, simple and 'barbaric' are your words, but the barbarian was you on your arrival here, if the turkish sultanate the kharezm were to accept my allanice offers, i swear i would stay with my oath, but i cannot allow myself to be trampled underfoot by my southern neighbours, from the great Khan himself.
The messenger glares at the eastern roman empire diplomat with deep anger, he sees a ceremonial sword attached to the wall and thinks (any more from him and ill get that sword and cut his throat)
07-27-2008, 21:05
Ibn-Khaldun
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The Caliphs emissary turns to the Jerusalems emissary ...
We are open for trade to everyone. We hope that there will be no war with the Allies of the Jerusalem.
Mahmud smiles...
Another thing..
The Kypchak ambassador should watch what he says for he might regret his words later..
Mahmud looks towards the Kypchak emissary..
07-27-2008, 21:13
Merlox
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The ambassador of Jerusalem looks slightly insulted at the Roman diplomat's words.
"I assure you, sir, the King of Jerusalem and his crusaders have absolutely no designs on your lands. And here I thought I would have a good Christian friend at this meeting. In fact, wasn't it your Emperor who requested assistance against the Muslims in the holy land not 50 years ago? The Kingdom does not wish war on you at all, rather I seem to remember that we were still assisting you in the Turkish wars until their recent peace. We wish to renew our trade rights and alliance with the Roman Empire."
He then turns to address the Caliph's emissary.
"And with that 'misunderstanding' taken care of, we would be happy to trade with your Caliphate at the current time. However, if at any time you go to war with an ally of the Kingdom, we will be forced to cancel trade. You do seem quite a peaceable nation, however. I am sure we have nothing to worry about."
And with that, Henri de Marseille seats himself again, still alone due to the lack of friendly Christians.
The Roman Diplomat seemed to be more calmed now.
Yes.. yes... all of this is true... The sudden attacks from the turkish empire and cause one of the castles to be lost has put us in the high alert... I will send word of this to my Emperor at will, Our only request is to please notify us before a crusading army is on the way, First word it was a French navy... Possibly an ally to one of the nations to the west at we are fighting, and pulled up top to defend... As we will trust you for now, We will pull back the navies that were being sent to you to "Escort" the crusades... Forgive the Roman Empire Mis-understandings, Sir Henri de Marselle. He would bow his head while sitting to the jerusalem diplomat, for a sign or respect.
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My Khan has sent a message on this news:
NEVER has the Khan ever been so insulted! you threaten the mighty turks, my khan and The fine crusaders,ha, this is laughable! YOU WILL B ANNAILATED! our people are usually peaceful, but we see peace is not an opinion here, your crumbling empire will dissapear this instance! is your emperor on drugs? i see a senisible ruler would not make such empty threats, The mighty turks have been targeted by you, and possibly the abbasids! there reknown reputation is better than that of your emperor! your countless defeats will continue and i DECLARE that the turks will form an ALLAINCE with me! for mutual protection, of course it is your descision as i no our people have had quarrels in the past, but we see eye to eye, also if the kharezm shah will accept, i would offer an allaince to them to, as im sure were awaer of the upcoming mongolian threat, I would also add me are nations both with large land mass and potential, please consider.
I have no quarels with you either georgia, and i feel trade rights is our first way for progress
but for the ERE there is no mercy, i do not want this to make other nation beleive we are reckless, but only authortive, as im sure your aware of the Eastern Roman pigs threats, i truely didnt want this to happen, and not so soon, our lands mean much to us, simple and 'barbaric' are your words, but the barbarian was you on your arrival here, if the turkish sultanate the kharezm were to accept my allanice offers, i swear i would stay with my oath, but i cannot allow myself to be trampled underfoot by my southern neighbours, from the great Khan himself.
The messenger glares at the eastern roman empire diplomat with deep anger, he sees a ceremonial sword attached to the wall and thinks (any more from him and ill get that sword and cut his throat)
The Roman Diplomat hears the Khan's diplomats words and laughs.
Hah, That Khan of yours is a pathetic dog. He claims that my empire will be destroyed, My empire that I have held for over a thousand years? I doubt it. If you wish to come to attack me, Come right ahead, Though, I will promise you, you will fall and perish, My navy will blockaid every single port you have, cutting yourself from the trade. While you squirm to get your armies together from your vast empire of worthless lands. You will be in debt too far for your soldiers to even considering listening to you any more, I am sure that the Turks will see my point of view. and at least pull back there armies from my border. Perhaps they are better from worthless barbarians after all.
07-27-2008, 21:26
Thermal
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the kypchak embassy clashs his fist against the table with such an impact tht the romans cooked meat crashs of the table and into his face
my lands have been earned rightously and yours seems to of been crumbling over recent years, regardless of whethers its 1000 years old or not, you started this, and my Khan would refuse to be diplomatic as Jerusalem has, we feel you do not deserve such prvilages, if it want for your instant threats the offer of trade would hav been gladly offered but you choose to cause havoc, you come in here with many threats, then act like the kinder one!
i remind that it was my Khan letter and not me who said this abbasids, although we must think as one,
you claim peace but demand sindh, turkey and armenia to hand over there hard earned settlements, i hardly think you can critize me, i offer you trade unless you feel that you aren't good enough to accept, which we would understand
turning my attention by to the Eastern Roman Empire my khan refuses to bk from his lands, we wouldnt dare attack you, we're sure only a nation such as yours would sub due to such dubious thought, as your first speech shows!
the kypchak messenger stands up as he sees that the oman servants finally consider bringing food to the kypchak, the kypchak messenger says 'i wouldnt eat your food if it were the last on earth, my khan taught be to be a master of austere and self-restraint, i need not your charity'
07-27-2008, 21:36
Merlox
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The Roman would continue laughing, and eating. Not taking the Khan as any serious threat.
"I simply asked that you are to back off from our borders. And if you do not comply, We will just think that you will be attacking the good people of the roman empire. I think every one in this court can agree with me when they see a rather larget barbarian army at their borders, We heard of your armies are just a bunch of dirty peasents, but still. These dirty peasents must be removed from the fort posted right by the river that seperates our countries, and back to your pathetic homelands. If this is not met. The Romans will do this, For you ofcourse.
The Roman Diplomat now grinned, seeing the man's anger as entertaining.
07-27-2008, 21:40
Ibn-Khaldun
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Mahmud answers with a calm voice to the Kypchak ambassador..
We have righteous claims to those lands.
They belonged to us not very long time ago.
Also WE do not threaten our neighbors because WE will try to find peaceful ways to solve this situation.
And just like I said.. We are open for trade to everyone.. even to you...
I hope that Ambassador will not behave like a barbarian anymore and embraces more civilized ways to make his voice to be heard..
07-27-2008, 21:46
Thermal
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the messenger surprisingly calms a little only mumbling death threats which no one else seems to hear
dirty peasants? half way through your speech i thought you were apoligizing for your insolance, but then your fool enough to twist the knife even further! i feel your attitude will go down hofficify with the Khan, i would please with him to let you hav our border fort, but no actual settlements, our land will remain our land!
and peasants you say? what an ignorant stereotype, doe a peasant talk as fluently as me, i think not, doe a peasant have some of the finest stalions the world has ever seen? does a peasant have the ability to conquer over ukraine and beyond, if he doe, then i am happy to b a peasant, better than being as arrogant as your self...
07-27-2008, 21:58
luigithepizzaman
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The Caliph of Abbasid Caliphate i thank you for openly coming out about the lands you want to clame back but i dont think the lands you want back from us can be done by dipolmacy.
The greek man i thank you for insluting my offer of friendship, then trying to convince me that i should see your side when my great ally defends me i dont see how that works.
the kypchak and i have signed alliance to defend ourselfs from the aggressive ERE and i hope he clams down and stops insulting the kypchak khan
happliy looks to everyone in the room
07-27-2008, 22:01
Thermal
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BEHOLD
it has been announced, the wise strong mighty turks have chosen to accept my alliance, its comforts me that they have accepted the offer and overlooked ERE's ridculous effort to try and turn against me, this nation is honorable, and you now see my kindness when it is deserved, Kharezm, the offer still stand to you when you arrive
from the almighty khan
the messenger sneers at the eastern roman diplomat, the eastern roman diplomat is still laughing though strangly...(mayb there whole nation is on drugs)
07-27-2008, 22:02
Merlox
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The Roman Diplomat sits and enjoys talking to him now, finding it funnier every moment.
Yes.. ofcourse. You brag about your little empire, your army marches a hundreds of miles, Your troops know how to walk and run better than to fight. And yes. I forgot, your people don't even know how to sail on the waters, let alone fight on it. If you keep this Up, surely the Roman Emprie will just simply blockaid you, and you will then, see the empire's might. when you are in debt. I have no intentions to take your lands, due to the very simple fact that your lands are worthless. Though, Maybe your Caffa fortress will be a nice claim, a nice seaport town. or hell. Every town that borders the ocean will be the roman empires if you keep this up. I do think that every one on the court thinks your a mad man now...
He turns to the Turks.
Oh great... I knew the barbarians would cling to the scum faster than a fly could. The turks should be damn afraid. Having 4 armies by the borders ready to strike. How many armies can you spare to defend against me, You ask of friendship when you STOLE my lands from me? I demand you give them back before you even speak of your "Friend ship" while defending against the other nations who you have their lands. I demand that you give the areas that you have took from My own empire, and the Abbisuds. Or we will take these lands from you
He turns to the Abbisud's diplomat
Maybe we do have some things to discuss, even though our empires are so seperated, The same empire has taken lands from both of us...
The roman diplomat started to laugh again. Enjoying to provoke the Khan diplomat.
07-27-2008, 22:27
Thermal
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the kypchak messenger heres the ERE's rantings and cuts him short
you say the trustworthy turks are in trouble!, look at your own borders, your right inbetween 2 powerful nations that at the moment hav every reason to hate your guts, if your people new of your actions they would desert you, putting there lives in such great danger! and by mocking my lack of naval forces you also insult the proud kingdom of makuria, who also suffer from lack of ship capabilitys, you no your weaker than i and there for plan weakling tactics of attacking ports with no guard, are you a man or a mouse? dont worry, your people wont have to deal with your oppression soon enough when constantiople has been exterminated, i no you lie even if others dont, and while i would be at peace with other nations, i would rather destroy you be for any one else regardless, so you should be quite scared, your messenger can laugh all he likes but behind closed doors we no how much you fear us...and an attack on the turks who have done even less wrong than me will mean a brutal attack from me, i should leave him out of this, it is my Khan who wants the fight, not the successful turkish sultanate
07-27-2008, 22:50
luigithepizzaman
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looks towards Abbisud's diplomat
Seeing as the ERE has hinted greatly that he wishes to get you to work with him agaist me i wish to say if it is possible, i can work something out with you from one islam brother to another and maybe we could consider working something out with the lands you want back so we can have friendship true members of islam should have together.
This is why i have offered you and i a chance to become ally.
07-27-2008, 23:08
Chaotix
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The ambassador of Jerusalem, exasperated at all of this argument, tries to calm the situation down.
While the Roman diplomat is not listening, he hastily says:
"For the benefit of all the nations at this meeting, including his own, I will attempt to reason with the Roman in a way that he understands. I apologize in advance for any insults I may make towards your nations."
Then he stands.
"Ahem... my good friend, I wish to give you a bit of advice, straight from my heart, in order to keep your prosperous empire safe. While these Kypchaks and Turks are clearly *coughs* infidels and barbarians, you should remember that no matter how righteous, powerful, and technologically advanced your empire is, making enemies of too many barbarians at once may, against all logic, bring about your downfall. I would ask you to remember what happened to the old Roman Empire of the West so many hundreds of years ago. Did not the innumerable horde of Goths and Huns sack the city of Rome, however powerful their legionaires were? I plead with you: do not make every man here your enemy. Instead, make allies, preferably with your fellow Christians, if I may make a humble suggestion."
Henri de Marseille then seats himself, hiding the fact that he is silently gagging over his grovelly words.
07-27-2008, 23:22
Merlox
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The roman laughs more.
Please. The Western romans were corrupted as it was, and we split from them, and they fell as it is. We are speaking of no Huns, I am speaking of the Turks who steal lands from me, and A barbarian up north that wishes to attack me, but has failed to understand that The Roman Emperor have just put up a very large army of Spear, Pike, and Bowmen to the only enterence to my kingdom, They surely do wish to attack me if they do not want to leave my borders. The Roman Emperor simply asked for the forces of barbarian and turks to lower the military forces on their borders, and for the turks to give back my castle. and their would be peace, but these people want the war, they refuse to leave. This can be solved peacefully, or we can "Assist" them to move out of the border lines. It is simple, The Roman Emperor wanted peace from the start, How can Roman Emperor achieve peace when the armies linger to my borders, waiting for a weakness and to attack me? If the military forces would be removed, The roman emperor would station them into my cities. Not have them building a fort at a river end so these damn barbarians are planning to destroy the empire? Them barbarians should know that sense they are a nation of "peace" the first step of "peace" is to draw the armies away from the borders.
The Roman Diplomat sighed.
War can be averted. but only if these barbarians would listen to a civilized tongue.
07-27-2008, 23:30
Thermal
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the kypchak messenger tires of other nations degrading this own then speaks...
indeed the romans have fallen before to rightous people for it was the romans who would have destroyed the hunnic peoples other wise, people stick up for romans and trust them, yet there the ones that slaughther and threaten to steal lands, have they have shown perfectly here, for surely there vast empire wasnt formed in any other way but brute force? how can you call my islamic allies infidels jerusalem? you are insult to islam with such words, your just trying to guide the ERE so you dont get trampled on, the creeps tactic, at least i and my khan have the guts to say whats nessessary, instead of avoiding an inevitable war as your peoples are, as you realize that the romans are closer than us and therefore more threating, and our nations have as much a chance as the Romans have as allainces go, Georgie, Kharezms and armenia would make superb allies, your want to bring other nations into this conflict shows cowardly activity, i remcommend re thinking how you tag my nation, im sure you will, and if you treat us with respect, then in turn, i shall forget the comment you have just laid down.
07-27-2008, 23:37
Thermal
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the kypchak messenger is now the one laughing...
ERE only ever wanted peace, very likely seeing as you come here, call the turks scum, say were peasant barbarians, and jerusalam pigs,! you call that peaceful, if you had more peaceful methods like the examply abbasids this would never of happened, and i must emphaise, you delivered this message on your enterence here, before that i was not abusive, so dont deny that your intentions are peace when they clearly werent, i dont want war with your people, but justice, as doe the khan, hes bound to react when you deliver such threats! you were hipacrittical, so perhaps less barbaric methods of talking would make me more civilized as to speak
07-27-2008, 23:40
Merlox
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Please, The Principality of Antioch and the Roman Empire have better relations, as they and us already agreed to lower the troops down on the Island Cyprus. Also with The Kingdom of Georgia we have better relations. They have all accepted a short time ago to de-militerize some of our borders are the best way to go. I ask you to de-militerize your border. and you spit at me, and threaten to remove the Roman empire fully? I do wish you to just listen for once, instead of using your brute force, and de-militerize your borders. Though, You clearly wish to declare war on the Roman Empire. So we must defend ourselves.
Yes, we want peace, but we can not be so sure, while crusading armies are right off the coast of the settlements, The turks taking a castle, and you on the borders... Peace is very rare then.
07-27-2008, 23:46
Merlox
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The young omani's diplomat sits their, watching two sides argues. and stands up.
Alright.. Ummm.. I may not know to situation is at your lands.. but.. This is a place for talking out problems.. Not making things worst and leading to war... I have a Deal, since the Romans want to remove all armies from the border. they have to remove their own as well. You two will never achieve peace by throwing insults at eachother!, Think about the borders, The town people, the peasents, think how afraid they are that two armies are sitting, not even one mile away, and at any second a battle could be done! and one side would most likely destroy the town and the people along with it!...
The young diplomat's eyes widen. As if he did something wrong.. and sat down.
07-27-2008, 23:49
Thermal
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the kypchak messenger feels ignored as his words clearly hav not been heard...
first i offered to let you hav the fort on our border, but you seem not to suggest anything about my genoroity there, i refuse to fight you, i never wanted war i have also said that which is why i feel ignored, i will move my armies back as long as i am allowed a spy at my border, and you should move yours back to, its ok you telling me to move back, but i expect the same from you to, you hav done a fine job of twisting my words so far, but i hope maybe an awkward peace can be negoiated for both are advantages, but i warn you never speak to the great khan in such a manner again, our patients have limits
07-27-2008, 23:56
Merlox
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The Roman sighed.
I told you once, I told you twice, i do not want the fort that you have build, We have our own at our side of the border, It would make no sense to to take yours as well and have two armies, So Withdraw your armies, and I decline the use as spies, Due to the fact that our watch towers are just as effective. I want the fort sizes to be either removed, or up to 2 unit types in them. I Simply want my border protected, not to make forts beyond my territory
07-28-2008, 00:01
Thermal
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the kypchak messenger feels invisable, and decides to get noticed again....
STOP YOUR JIBERISH AT ONCE, we have offered to remove our armies, you havent however, if you do i assure you i will, i must speak in 'barbaric' language for you to understand me, i will remove them at once, when i have the ability to do so, i havent heard such a pact from you however
07-28-2008, 00:06
luigithepizzaman
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The turk messanger who after not speaking for a while decised it was time to rejoin the whos got the biggest balls argument
'This will go nowhere, the ERE keeps changing its mind at the start blasting our ally propasition, then wanting peace after insulting our great allys khan and insulting the fact the turks have already show strength by taking one of there castles that he wants back, so do you really want peace because im begging to feel war is what you want'
07-28-2008, 00:36
Merlox
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The Roman Diplomat laughed.
Just when the barbarians just got through with us, and we agree to a good peace plan. The turks want to start it up again due to the fact that they want a war? Tell me, Now that you have a defensive alliance, you wish to provoke the roman empire into a full out war?... The only reason why you took our small buffer castle was due to the fact that the armies were called to moblize to the shores. Where boats would go. I am asking you to give back the lands and nothing will happen, and if you refuse. We will simply take it, We can discuss things further, But you must realize that we will not stop until we gain back our castle. We have already mobilized the Royal army of rome to the settlement outside. Armed with catapults. We simply ask of you to remove your armies now, and give us back what was once ours.
07-28-2008, 00:44
Thermal
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The kypchak messenger cant help but intervene, he seems to enjoy talking....
they said nothing of war, dont twist the turkishs words aswell, why should they give this settlement back, they need what they can get with the hasty neighbours he has, bearing in mind your empire extends further to the west, your the one threatening war here on his castle, this is a very awkward sitution to resolve...
07-28-2008, 00:45
luigithepizzaman
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turkish diplomat looks back smerking
'in my last post i was not asking for a war i was just saying i think you want one
if you were so happy with it been finished, where has this massive change in policy come from
i ask you sir make your mind up, war or peace?'
07-28-2008, 00:48
luigithepizzaman
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turkish diplomat looks back smerking
'in my last post i was not asking for a war i was just saying i think you want one, first of all when have you given the time for us to sort out a deal for the castle in question'
if you were so happy with it been finished, where has this massive change in policy come from
before you were claiming to be a peaceful nation'
'i ask you sir make your mind can we avoid war or not, war or peace?'
07-28-2008, 01:34
Merlox
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The Roman Diplomat looked almost tired of talking.
Yes, It can be made a deal by, but I am wondering what Type of deal...
War can averted, ofcourse, It just follows if you give the castle or not.
The Roman Diplomat sighed, and looked toward the Khans.
Well... Second thing on the road to peace is a Trade Agreement. Considering you have many ports. It might be a use for both of our economies.
07-28-2008, 01:47
Merlox
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The Young Omani's diplomat sat there, Though, he wasn't even paying attention, Just looking at the door waiting for more to come.
Alright, since you have that settled, that is good.. Now I just have to worry about a bigger problem then stealing castles, and the name calling. I just hope the Ghorid Empire and the Hindus come to this...
07-28-2008, 01:56
Ramses II CP
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A simply dressed man enters and announces himself as the emissary of the Lord of the Sindh.
My people are dedicated to peace on all fronts, and to the expression of Allah's will on earth. Islam is the religion of peace, of course, and we invite all our Muslim brothers to negotiate alliances and trade rights with the Sindh. In particular letters will be sent to the Ghorids and Ghazni very soon, and the Omanis and Seljuks very soon after the first.
May Allah most merciful stay the hands of war and spread his joy to all people!
:egypt:
07-28-2008, 02:03
Merlox
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The Young Omani's diplomat finally is interested.
Ahhh, Finally, Something new to the table. I welcome you Diplomat of Sindh. Your proposal is very generous.. though... I fear that the Abbasid Caliph has asked already for your two most western provinces, Though, the Caliph is about peace himself. I am sure that you two will figure something out if you both seek peace...
07-28-2008, 03:34
Chaotix
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Henri de Marseille waits until the Roman has left the room for a short break from diplomatic talks, and then he explains his words to the Kypchak emissary.
"I am sorry if I have offended you, emissary of the Kypchaks. You may have been too far away to hear me whisper just before I made my last speech, but this is what I said:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chaotix27
"For the benefit of all the nations at this meeting, including his own, I will attempt to reason with the Roman in a way that he understands. I apologize in advance for any insults I may make towards your nations."
[OOC: Gah. Really, would it kill ya to read the whole post before you accuse me of something? :wall:]
He then addresses the Sindhi emissary.
"Although we are not your brothers in Islam, the Kingdom of Jerusalem would like to trade peacefully with your nation."
He then sits.
07-28-2008, 04:07
phonicsmonkey
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The doors of the chamber are thrown open and a thin man with a dark pointed beard, flowing dark crimson robes and white silken turban arrives, flanked by armed Mamluk guards. Their shields and banners bear the insignia of the Sultan of Egypt.
After finding their seats, the thin man stands and, glancing around the chamber with a piercing gaze, begins to read from a scroll.
The Great Salahuddin, Sultan of Egypt, sends his greetings to this august body!
Something seems to catch in his throat and he all but collapses in a fit of coughing. Leaning heavily on one of the Mamluks he waves away a slave-boy's offer of water and, regaining his composure, continues in a weaker voice.
The Sultan would like to announce his desire for peaceful relations and trade with all of the nations of the region. May the riches of his Egyptian domain be shared with his brothers of Islam, and other kings of the region whose motives are peaceful.
A diplomat will be sent to each nation's lands in turn to secure trade rights and to offer an exchange of geographical information.
I, Quttub the Magnificent, will remain stationed here at Sur in order to communicate the public announcements of the Great Salahuddin, and to engage with your good selves in diplomacy.
A final warning - let no man cast greedy or covetous eyes on the Sultan's domain - the armies of Islam under the command of Salahuddin are mighty indeed and fierce in their patriotic defence of the Sultanate. Any army which dares to set foot on our lands will be wiped from the face of the earth, Inshallah.
He sits, wheezing and clearly exhausted from the effort of speech. A Mamluk guard mops his brow with an embroidered cloth.
07-28-2008, 04:29
Merlox
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The young Oman diplomat stood up from his chair.
Welcome Master Quttub the Magnificent! I have recieved a scroll that you would be one of the more imporrr... i mean.. Guests that would be coming. Apparently our leaders have spoken already. And also the leader did reserve a seat to the left of me of your Arrival! Sit, Relax. And yes, you have a reserved Bedroom on the Third Floor.
The Young Diplomat would raise his head up.
Attention All, The Third Floor of the Diplomacy Building is Off Limits. He pointed at the staircase on the side. protected by Four Heavy Armored Guards.
Please, Master Quttub the Magnificent. We must go to the third floor and to talk about certain things. It is willed by the Great Imam himself.
The Young Diplomat snaps twice, and two of the armored guards come to escort him and Quttub the Magnificent upstairs while the two others blocked.
07-28-2008, 05:42
Ibn-Khaldun
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The Abbasid ambassador, Mahmud, turns to greet the Ayyubid ambassador..
Welcome Brother,
May Allah bless our two nations!
Turning to the Turks..
We seek no war. We hope that we can find a peaceful solution for those two provinces.
But this will be discussed privately!
Looking the Sindh's emissary..
Looks like someone have forgotten that they share the border to us too?
Anyway..
The two provinces that are currently under the Sindh's rule belonged to us just recently.
We really hope that we can find a peaceful way to bring them back under our rule once again.
The war and all that goes along with it is just not necessary I think!
07-28-2008, 05:46
phonicsmonkey
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Quttub returns to the chamber, taking his seat once more. One of his Mamluk guards passes him a written message which was delivered by a runner in his absence. He sits, reading the message for a moment or two and absent-mindedly scratching at an angry-looking red rash which covers the skin on the right side of his neck under his chin. Flecks of dry skin settle in his beard.
He rises, a triumphant gleam in his eye and announces:
Leaders of men!
I am delighted to announce that the mighty Salahuddin, Sultan of Egypt, has agreed a defensive military and trading alliance with the most holy Caliph of Islam, An-Nasir li din-Allah!
Salahuddin looks to the Caliph for spiritual guidance and will serve him as the appointed leader of Islam by pledging to defend the holy sites of Damascus, Mecca and Medina against any incursion by the infidel.
In return, the Caliph offers his assistance and alliance to the Sultanate.
May all here be wary of the combined might of Egypt and the Caliphate!
May Allah himself bless this mighty alliance as it seeks to secure peace and prosperity for all the peoples of the region!
07-28-2008, 05:46
Chaotix
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With the leave of the two Arab diplomats, Henri de Marseille begins to converse with the Roman diplomat, whom he is now seated next to, now that he has cooled down.
"Strange ways, these Muslims have. I would have thought the emissary from the Caliphate would have received the best attention, but he was treated just like us- which is, admittedly, quite hospitably. But this diplomat from the Ayyubid Sultanate was given special treatment. I suppose you may not be familiar with Catholicism, either, but if a similar situation happened in Catholic lands, I assure you it would be considered a high offense against the Pope! Speaking of Christians, I wonder how much longer it'll be before we see our friends from Armenia, Georgia, and Makuria..."
07-28-2008, 06:17
Merlox
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The roman diplomat leans in closer, and using a low voice.
Yes... Very strange... It seemed like that young diplomat was expecting him... maybe They already have diplomatic Ties..? and right... I rather see our friends before i have to speak with barbarians and scum again... I don't know who to threat more, The Khan's barbarians... or the Islamish people east and south of your lands.....
07-28-2008, 14:50
Thermal
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the Khans Kypchak messenger sees the turkish man rather alone, they trade words discreetly as many others seemed to...
'the egyptian messenger has alot of authority, you would be wise to trade with them, dear turkish ally'
the turkish messenger agrees, while the kypchak whispers in his ear...(maybe he would be willing to fight against those arrogant romans if you and him form a powerful bond' the turk ruffles his beard and thinks long and hard about his allies advice...
07-28-2008, 16:34
barcamartin
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A man in extravagant silk, dyed in different blues and greens enters the chamber. He stops, bowing deep a few steps from the door.
' Noble emissaries, ambassadors and leaders from this part of the world. I bear word from the Shah of the Ghaznavids, and it is one of peace and prosperity. Trade with nations far and wide benefit both my glorious nation and our trade partners. In these times of grief and peril bonds through trade can ensure peace between our Empires, Kingdoms, Sultanates, Emirates, Imamates and Shahdoms. May all nations represented in this chamber accept the offer of trade with the Ghaznavids.
On another diplomatical note, the Shah wishes to tie even tighter diplomatic bonds with Muslim brothers on our borders. I hope the representatives for the Ghorids, Sindh, Seljuks and Khawazi are willing to meet with me to discuss the will of my Shah. '
Bowing once again, he looks around the room and chooses a chair next to the Sindhi ambassador.
07-28-2008, 16:55
Thermal
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the kypchak adds to the ghaznis words...
i also would be intresed with allying the noble kharezms to unity on the upcoming mongol threat and securely hold the north as brothers in arms
07-28-2008, 17:13
Merlox
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The Young Omani's diplomat bows to the Ghaznavids Diplomat.
It is an Honor to have one of the strongest Islam of the eastern powers to this meeting. Even though we do not border eachother exactly, The Imam of Omans are only seperated by the Strip Nation of Sindh. The Imams wish to trade our Map informations of eachother, As well as trade agreements.
07-28-2008, 18:10
barcamartin
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' I am glad to hear these kind words of wisdom, and I assure you my Shah will be pleased. I happily accept the Imamate's offer. May Allah light your path. '
07-28-2008, 19:26
Merlox
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A messenger boy runs in and gives a scroll to the Young Omani's diplomat, The Young Omani's diplomat reads, and stands up to grab every one's attention.
Attention, to the Diplomats of the current. The Imam of Oman is taking a vote on offically declaring that this nation, since it is a Nation of Trade, and economy, wishes to trade agreements with all. Also. Since we are a kingdom of trade, We are welling our Armies as Special Mercinaries to aid ANY kingdoms in battle if it is to occur!. If you are to buy a Mercinary Army of the Imam Empire, The Army itself will not be under your control, But you may Relay your orders to the General of the Armies. All territories captured with the Mercinary armies will be given to the origional owner. Or it will be kept for the Imam Empire if it is a worthy trade outpost.
Ofcourse. Since that the Hired forces of the Imam empire will do battle most likely on neutral sides of the Imam Empire, Due to the fact that we seek no wars on our own will, The Empire itself and who ever the Mercinaries are directed at, will be considered Neutral Still.
If an empire Declares war onto the Imam Mercinaries army in an enemy territory, You are declaring War on that nation, Due to the fact that you are attacking Hired people of the empire!. Though If you attack Imam property that is on Imam Soil, You will be Removed of the list that can use Our Mecinary Armies. And any empire that wishes to attack the nation that is attacking Trade empire. You will Recieve a 75% discount on the armies.
Nations at war with eachother can BOTH hire armies, The Armies will not attack eachother. That is the only code they will follow and they will refuse a the current employer if they ask.
For the Allies of the Trade Empire, Will recieve a 50% discount.
For the prices. There will be a Starting fee. and then an Upkeep fee. Last and not least, your Map information so the armies can find where they are going.
(You are required to hire them for the incoming trip, you though, do not have to pay them for the returning trip, Due to the fact that it is Imam Property again.)
Their are Two type of armies which you can purchase.
Price = 5,000. Upkeep. 500 per turn of service.
Regular Armed Foces, = Swordsmen, Spearmen, Longbow men, Mounted Units, General.
Price = 10,000. Upkeep. 1000 per turn of service.
Elite Armed Forces, = Elite Swordsmen, Well Equipped Spearmen, Well Equipped Longbow men, Royal Javilineers, Royal Mounted Troops. General.
We only ally to thouse who are on borders, and who agree to De-militerize the borders.
The Great Imam of Marshed wishes to do future deals with all of you noble nations if this vote is to pass, If most of the court agrees no, then this idea will be scrapped. I will be handing out the votes. This vote can be private or open as well.
The Very large scroll was rather 16 copies. The Omani rung a bell, and servents began to pass the copies to every one. Though, there was still a few in a pile for the rest of the kingdoms that havn't come.
07-28-2008, 21:35
Ibn-Khaldun
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Mahmud looks around and wishes to say something but restrain himself ...
Instead he takes a grape from the table and continues to listen what the other emissaries are saying..
07-29-2008, 00:40
luigithepizzaman
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The turkish diplomat after thinking carefully about his words, begins to stand up and speak so everyone can hear him
'I am quite confused about how the new idea i see from the Omani's will work, it seems they are turning there nation and military into a merc company and i am not very sure what my standing is on this, But i have to say i am very impressed with Omani's leaders for coming up with a very profititable idea for money and battle experience'
'I just have a few questions, what if many factions buy merc armys and in turn you have half the worlds nations against you?'
'If many nations got the mercs and your faction has to start wars to take over settlements wont this mean you will lose trade rights with many factions and they wont get the 75% off the troops even though they didnt stop the trade?'
'I would just also like to say please dont take my intrest in this matter as bad im just very intrested in how this will work, im just glad some nation is coming out and trying something new'
07-29-2008, 01:07
Warmaster Horus
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The doors open once more, letting in a middle-aged, out-of-breath man, his clothes still dusty from the long trek he made from T'bilisi to Sur, and some servants. In his hands he holds various scrolls, records of the meeting before he arrived. He hastily sits at the table, orders some water, looks once more at the scrolls, catches his breath, clears his throat, and starts to speak:
"Ah, gentlemen! I would like to say a few things, if you'll permit me.
First of all, I am called David Agmashenebeli, in honour of our noble saviour, the one who drove out the Seljuk Turks from our lands" The diplomat says, looking pointedly at the Turkish ambassador, implying that the Georgian people hadn't forgotten. David continues:
"I am sorry for my dishevelled appearance, but I had to race from T'bilisi once we heard of this meeting, and despite my speed, I wasn't able to secure faster transport than my old horse... So, this is why I'm late and dusty." The diplomat stops, since his servant has finally brought the water. He drinks quickly, and chokes a bit. After a few moments, he's well enough to continue.
"Now, I know what has been said in this room. And I would like to remark that we are first and foremost diplomats, ambassadors, men of words and reason. Not warriors, soldiers, men of arms and rage. I wonder therefore why some of you have raised their voice, let passion come first, and threatened others... I look to the Roman emissary, who it appears has wished to antagonize every one here, the Kingdom of Jerusalem and myself excluded, of course. The Abbasid Caliphate I believed made a list of the territories they want back, as if this were a market. The Sultan of the Ayyubids, finally, comes under the banner of peace, yet warns us that, quote: 'the armies of Islam under the command of Salahuddin are mighty indeed and fierce in their patriotic defence of the Sultanate. Any army which dares to set foot on our lands will be wiped from the face of the earth, Inshallah.' They also proclaim an alliance, nearly immediately warning us of 'the combined might of Egypt and the Caliphate!' Now please, gentlemen... Do we really wish for this meeting to continue in this direction? The 16 seats aren't even filled yet!" The diplomat pauses again, and catches his breath, and writes something briefly on a scroll, before whispering something to his servant, who leaves with it immediately.
"Now, the Kingdom of Georgia would like to announce its stance. We wish for peace, trade and prosperity. Nothing more. We then wish for trade to be established with all nations, so as to have both peace and prosperity.
We will however defend ourselves if threatened, and will not hesitate to defend our Christian brothers, if they are incapable of doing so themselves, something which I personally doubt.
To the Turks, we bear no true anger for your past deeds (ooc: check wikipedia, people!), and forgive you. Yet we will not forget, nor shall we not stay wary of your actions.
About the Omani's idea, I believe their proposal also gives them some assurance. Should we all hire mercenaries, and then destroy the Omani, we will have 'our' Omani mercenaries ready to fight us! Remember, we don't directly command them. " David stops (not quite sure of what he said just there), checks his scrolls once more, nods, and ends:
"Well, ambassadors... I believe that is all I have to say. I am readily available for both public and private discussion. As some say, your move, gentlemen." He looks around, and realizes he forgot one thing:
"Oh, uh... Where can I freshen up? I'm afraid I may have brought some dust in here..."
07-29-2008, 01:19
Thermal
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the kypchak messenger delights in some one not blaming him for past arugments and responses...
Greeting, we have both had long journeys it would seem! as i have previously said trade between our nations would be progress, you seem honorable, however, please leave the turks away from past problems, my nation has also had quarels with them, but under a new leader they have prospered and become true friends of the mighty Khan as they could with you, conflict need not be involved.
i have a letter from the khan to, he wants you to read it in private if you would excuse us everyone else, this message will be private...
they step out side the georgian messenger will here news soon
07-29-2008, 01:49
Thermal
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the kypchak also mentions...
please my georgian friend, i've heard you admire our cavarlymen, enjoy our mercenries, which we will allow you onto our lands to get, im sure of your peaceful intentions
07-29-2008, 02:03
Thermal
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the kypchaks speech continues....
i hav heard tales from the west that the germans are planning to take your capital city of konya, my dear turkish ally, be weary, this is just a rumour, but there could be some truth to it, keep a good defense, send that to your sultan fellow messenger...
07-29-2008, 02:11
luigithepizzaman
Re: Broken Crescent 3 Diplomacy: Progress
'yes my sultan has allso head of the germans possible plans and i thank you for the heads up'
'we the Seljuk Sultanate of Rûm also would like to offer trade rights and allience with the great seijuks as we hope the once joined factions can become brothes again'
07-29-2008, 03:46
Merlox
Re: Broken Crescent 3 Diplomacy: Progress
The Young Diplomat of Oman recieved another message. Yet stands up.
It is good to see that one more has finally showed up... I was getting high hopes of a filled chair, but it may seem we may miss a few. As for the Omani's people, We only to seek profit, and peace.
We discussed this idea greatly between our great allies, Salahuddin and The Great Caliph himself, We now declare our forces under one banner, The Golden Crescent Confederation! Our great trade emprie only wishes peace, but the very unpleasent responses you to the Omans.
In discussing further matters, We have Forget about the Mercinary idea. Due to the fact that it was bringing to much anger, But I... Personally laugh at that, Seeing that Our lands are out of reach as for all that has even talked about declaring war on us...
A glare goes to the Georgian Diplomat.
We will disband our armies due to the simple fact that we are for peace.. and not for war. The Golden Crescent Confederation only wishes for all islamish people in Arabia to be protected from the nearly raising factions. A decleration of war, Will simply mean you have just declared war on the Whole of Arabia, After seeing the christan powers.
Having the faction of Antioch attack Aleppo.. and the Crusaders taking Homs, The African Warlords taking peaceful trading villages off the Horn of Africa and the small trading island off the Horn of Africa. We do not wish for any more violence. Though, I may be disbanding my armies do to good fortunes, and bringing new trades from the Far East, to all of your lands.
After Talking with the Allies, I wish to speak to the Sindh privately. Also, Even though I will be disbanding my Armies in the Far eastern shores of Arabia. The Strongest Navy of the Indian Ocean will stay. Due to the fact that the Sea is our first line of defense.
If any other Islamish empires wish to talk to The Golden Crescent Confederation. Please meet Myself, The Ayybid Diplomat, and the Caliph's diplomat. Thank you.
The Young diplomat sits down.
07-29-2008, 04:57
Chaotix
Re: Broken Crescent 3 Diplomacy: Progress
Henri de Marseille welcomes the Georgian diplomat once he has returned, cleansed of his dust.
"My good friend, I am glad to see you have arrived. I trust you had no problems along the way here? We have much to speak of, you and I..."
[OOC: Warmaster, check the PM I sent you yesterday, it's pretty important.]
07-29-2008, 15:21
luigithepizzaman
Re: Broken Crescent 3 Diplomacy: Progress
'well it seems certan nations might not make it to this meeting it seems, i have sent a offer to the ERE that i hope can stop the tension in our area and we will see if the ERE is true to its word about wanting peace'
07-29-2008, 15:57
Ibn-Khaldun
Re: Broken Crescent 3 Diplomacy: Progress
Mahmud looks at the Georgian Ambassador and says..
Are You saying that Our Caliph is nothing more than a salesman from a market?? For he has been the only ruler who have dared to come here personally to tell what are our political views and our attentions. I think we will never see a Georgian king here! Perhaps it is because of your mules and old horses? I would like to see your knights riding with them! That would be a sight!
Mahmud smiles contemptuously ...
We wanted peace and trade with you..
We had no claims on your provinces..
Yet you insult us!
Do you want that we change our policy??
07-29-2008, 16:46
luigithepizzaman
Re: Broken Crescent 3 Diplomacy: Progress
Turkish diplomat stands up and begins to address the nations of the Golden Crescent Confederation
'As a fellow peacefull nation under islam i have been told by my great sultan to enquire about the possiblity of the turkish sultanate joining this great confederation and to ally with all these great factions under its banner'
sits back down waiting nervously for a response
07-29-2008, 17:10
Merlox
Re: Broken Crescent 3 Diplomacy: Progress
The Young Omani Diplomat stands up.
Seeing that The Turks are in a scary situation, Being surrounded by Infedels that throws threats towards them. I would be in favor of letting the Turks join into The Golden Crescent Confederation. Though, I am just one of Three who must agree. I believe that if you settle your land claims with the Great Caliph. That you may gain his favor. My position is unclear on the Ayyubids. but I am sure that the Great Salahuddin would be pleased to have another defender of the faith.
The Young Omani Diplomat would look at the Sindh Diplomat.
If you could work something out with land claims with the great Caliph himself. I would think you too would be a worthy addition as well, Though, The Choice is yours to make, and then the Confederation's will.
Though... I am sure that the Origional Three would not have any problems with Muslims that would really want to join... Just speak up like the brave Turkish did, And you will be judged!
Further more, Let this Alliance praise peace for Allah... and ofcourse the Infidel's gods.
The young Omani's Diplomat sits down, and awaits the further words of the Caliph's diplomat and the Ayyubid's diplomat.
07-29-2008, 17:29
Ibn-Khaldun
Re: Broken Crescent 3 Diplomacy: Progress
The Caliphs ambassador, Mahmud, raises and says..
We have come to an agreement with the Turkish Sultanate. The details will be kept between us but we are happy with the results. Because we already agreed to form an alliance with them then the Caliph sees no reason why the Turks can't join the Confederacy. I think that the Ayyubids have nothing against this either.
He looks towards the Ayyubid ambassador..
07-29-2008, 19:33
Thermal
Re: Broken Crescent 3 Diplomacy: Progress
the Kypchak begins to blurt something out he planned on saying much earlier...
the Grand Georgian King tells the truth, if my Turkish allies have agreed to hand over these settlements you are very lucky, as it can only be seen as a market! Something you couldnt keep now has to be brought! I hope also by others 'Infidel' gods you do not associate the sky god here, he guides are peoples and lands, say what you like about my lands, but there some of the naturalist most awe-aspiring lands known to man, i'll be watching your movements closely Abbasid...
07-29-2008, 20:18
Ibn-Khaldun
Re: Broken Crescent 3 Diplomacy: Progress
Looking the Kypchak ambassador with an anger in his eyes Mahmud says..
The Kypchak Ambassador talks too much in the presence of much more powerful men.
I would advise him to shut up and listen. Perhaps he might learn something!
Saying that a fiendish smile crosses his face..
07-29-2008, 20:34
Merlox
Re: Broken Crescent 3 Diplomacy: Progress
The Oman Diplomat would have a bored face now while the Khan diplomat is talking.
Oh please... I don't know if it is a threat, and if it is a threat, it has been the most empty one in all of the court. The people from the khan, All the way up in your lands. Will waste the time to come and watch OUR holy lands while their are bigger threats at your borders... and do not address the Holy Caliph in that way in that way Infidel.. It is not wise.
For this now, He has not only gained peace between the Abbasids.. but also he gained a strong Alliance.. and an Alliance that could even help him. Not just across the sea some Infidel. I am very sure the Holy Caliph has made fair and good deals for the Turkish brothers. Now.. only if the Sindhs would listen to wise words and attempt to join the confederation...
The Oman Diplomat tried to get rid of his face that he had with Khans, Uninterested.
Well... We have most of the "Christian" Diplomats here... And ofcoruse that other one with skies and all of that...
He pointed at the khan diplomat.
I need to find out about the Ghorids and Hindus... the Seljuk Turks and Shahs. They need to attend to this meeting, before they destroy eachother... Am I missing some one..?
The Oman Diplomat looks at the list, and a disgusted look comes onto his face.
Oh... I have seem to forgot about the African Rebels... I didn't know the Great Imam would ever invite such a disgrace... nor... I never thought they were civilized enough to read a letter any ways... Well.. We have to wait for more lands.
The Oman Diplomat looked at the Jerusalem Diplomat.
I do not know how the Kingdom of Jerusalem takes the Great Imam. We must though, Try to keep a healthy, peaceful bond between our people. So, We shall first establish trade rights between our countries.. as we are one of the biggest exporters of the Far Eastern Goods, and you, seem to be the biggest Exporters of Far Western Goods... Am I wrong?
07-29-2008, 20:49
Thermal
Re: Broken Crescent 3 Diplomacy: Progress
The Kypchak soon replies to the Abbasid...
I speak to much in the presence of more powerful mean, you? with a nation so powerful that you have but a small weak kingdom on the edge of arabia? ha! more powerful? your only power is through bribing and bullying people into handing over there settlements, your the infidel fool!
and this Oman! what an impolite guest you've turned out to be, i refuse to speak to someone who has even decided to abandon this nation! your weak morals tire, as doe your raw attitudes, i will take my leave now, bye scum!
with this he storms out of the room pushing to the floor the weary guards in front of him...
(will this nation reconsider or stay away for good?)
07-29-2008, 21:03
Merlox
Re: Broken Crescent 3 Diplomacy: Progress
The Roman Diplomat sits there, with a large grin trying to stop himself with exploading with laughter.
Now... Fellow Diplomats.. See what I had to put up with? Barbarians can not be talked to... Due to the very fact that they can not communicate in a civilized way... and also to consider that his people fail at trading... If he did not fail... he would find that Arabia is one of the richest lands... Just look at the arabian lands now...
The Roman Diplomat Holds up the golden cup and examines it... then exploads with laughter.
07-29-2008, 21:26
Merlox
Re: Broken Crescent 3 Diplomacy: Progress
The Omani diplomat stands up once more after a messenger boy had come running in.
Dear diplomats, I have recieved a letter from the "Khan" himself. I will read you what it says.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Aries777777
My explosive servant has been beheaded he will trouble you not now, You believe my and his motives were the same, i should never of trusted such a man to represent our people...
Very simple and to the point, We may expect another one!.
The diplomat sits back down again.
07-29-2008, 21:37
Chaotix
Re: Broken Crescent 3 Diplomacy: Progress
The Kingdom of Jerusalem shall accept your request for trade rights for the time being. Indeed, our kingdom and the Roman Empire carry the largest amounts of European goods into the East.