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It's been a while, but here is another hot topic freshly baked by your host Sir Beane. :2thumbsup:
The thread title says it all really, what feature of Empire Total War appeals most to you? Why?
Hopefully it will give us all something to do other than thinking of new and creative ways to work the word demo into a post. :tongue:
Personally I'm looking forward to virtually everything. I pray every day to the great camel god in the sky that thw game lives up to the hype. :tongue:
Dragoons
England
Mughals
Ottoman Empire
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To be serious, Naval Battles, new goverment system and the warfare in genaral during that period...
edit: lol you added a polll....
The poll took a while to make, given that it has eighteen options :laugh4:.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wausser
You left one out…
I am most looking forward to completing the install…
:laugh4:
An integrated military and diplomatic AI.
oh the first thing i can think of is battles in the big water holes with the floating fortresses (water battles)
and the other thing is the pretty colors (the grafic updated) and the UI (user interface)
Hear Hear!Quote:
Originally Posted by seireikhaan
Being that I can't vote yet, I'll just write:
Tricornes!
Scottish Highlanders!
Larger map!
Smoke and the *kaboom* of cannons!
Subtle and elegant interface!
Marching music!
My country represented finally!
Snobbery and arrogance!
This is just what we can see, at the moment. Regarding AI, only speculation is possible, but I have my hopes up. I love this time period. After all, Total War at its very core is about formations of men fighting. And you can't have more emphasis on formation than in the 18th and early 19th century - with the exception of phalanxes during Alexandrian times.
The time priod
Ehm.............
That's it really. TW was meant for this period from the start, everything we've had to date was just groping around in the dark. Let the Enlightnment shine a light in the darkness of religiosity and superstition!
I'm looking forward to: Naval battles
Bigger map ( our good old elephants in India)
Better bribery options (in Rome too easy, in Medieval impossible)
What other time period will CA take then? Rome 2? 'Cause i'm not seeing WW2: Total War.
Enhanced Diplomacy and Politics for the win! :2thumbsup:
They'd better :whip:
I cant vote yet so...
I am very intrested in the new naval battles.
Also the development of new and different tactics on the battlefield. TW players are not used to just lining up infantry and letting them blast away at each other. IMO, lines of infantry just look like big, fat targets for my cannon.
All.
Speaking as someone who played HRE in MTW, Carthage in RTW, Western Rome in BI, and France in MTW2, most of the time, I have to say a improved diplomacy and military is the win.
It's not the trade rights, map information or techs that will do it in for me.
It's the idea that in the past, there were seiges against me the likes of which the world had never seen before.
At times I'd have 6 to 7 factions all fighting me, while barely fighting each other, sending 2 or 3 stacks of troops against me, a turn, while just blockading ports of other foes. Then when I'd finally hold 4-5 of these factions off and finish off one, lo and behold suddenly Milan or Vandals or some other random faction just "Suddenly" attacks.
So if the unification AI against the player will end, and factions will start acting like independent factions. I'll be VERY apprecative.
Guns, Graphics and New AI! Mostly AI.
I have to agree with Polemists here, it really ticked me off when factions ignored their mortal enemies just to attack little old me. But im really looking forward to the (supposedly) good AI, which will actually use all the fancy new features. Im hoping it'll be realistic and a challenge now.
And of course, the fact that my new PC (yay!) will be able to run the graphics will give me a warm fuzzy feeling inside...:laugh4:
Muskets! Oh how I love muskets. The time period also. Being able to play as the 13 colonies in the War of Independence. Man its been awhile since ive been this excited for a game. :beam:
I agree with the excitement thing. It's been a long, long time since I've been looknig forward to a game this much. March cannot come fast enough. :laugh4:Quote:
Originally Posted by bloodshed
Naval combat! I am a huge fan of the late Patrick O'Brian. Other games mangle naval combat terribly through a collection of small factors such as trivializing the weather gauge (sailing directly into the wind? Please!) and firing the cannons on a side all at once.
Perhaps rather than wish I could vote in these, I will see how many posts I can get away with as a Junior Member.
*opens coffin*
*creeps out of coffin*
Gah!
Krast sees ... guns!
Lots and lots of guns!
Gah!
*creeps back into coffin*
*closes coffin*
If you hate those two things then oh boy are you going to be disappointed :no:Quote:
Originally Posted by Sic semper tyrannis
In ETW you can sail directly into the wind, albeit slower than going with the wind. Apparently the fastest your ship can go is when it is at a slight angle to the prevailing wind, which is good.
Tacking is present in game however and does work if you want to go against the wind more quickly. So that's something at least. :2thumbsup:
The new AI looks interesting. Also, the new artwork and look of the game is enticing.
I also hope that there are no pathing and unit glitch issues with battles in urban areas; RTW and MTW both turned into Total Siege where you were forced to fight most battles inside glitchy cityscapes where very little fighting occured once you broke the walls, merely a death-charge into the center square where you were forced to sit and attack a bugged AI. :furious3:
Suffice it to say, I'm trying not to look forward to the game too much. RTW and MTW2 had great things about them, but the replayability was much less than MTW1 which remains my favourite of the series.
The AI of course.
Oh, and Revolutions!
...And Multiplayer!
AND GUNS!
I have to say I was skeptical of the gunpowder era at first, but the closer that ETW comes and the more shots and videos we see of combat I can't help but really want to try my hand at the era's warfare.
QFT.Quote:
Originally Posted by Colovion
But you just have to use a different part of your brain when playing the newer games. A part that ignores any expectations regarding a challenging AI and subtleness. Instead, the "five-year-old-on-christmas-eve" mode will serve you well.
If you belive what CA have stated in interviews then ETW has fewer seiges and a greater number of field battles. They have also mentioned that city fighting will no longer take place in the city centre, which might mean fewer pathing problems.Quote:
Originally Posted by Colovion
Is it bad that that mode seems to be my brain's default mode?Quote:
Originally Posted by Durango
:clown:
Certainly not, to each his own and I enjoy pure spectacle too. I'm actually looking into some other games for the serious cerebral activities, such as the Take Command series and Europa Universalis :yes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir Beane
I was just over at the TW Center, and read a few topics there were they discussed graphics. Jeez, every post seems to be filled with ill-hidden boasts about how they can max out this and that, how their daddy's new rig is better than somebody elses and so on and so on. I get the feeling that they just like to use the Total War games as benchmark tests...
Appreciating graphics is natural, but you can tell when it goes overboard.
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CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK REPORTING:
MULTIPLAYER WILL BE SO AWESOME! CAN YOU GUYS EVEN IMAGINE ITS AWESOMENESS? IT MIGHT EVEN BE ALMOST AS AWESOME AS ME!
But seriously, I'm actually going to give multiplayer a try this time around. Sir Beane, I'm speaking directly to you: Let's buy the game as soon as it comes out, and duke it out online, learning on the go, aight? The extent of the battle on the field will be amazingly large, oooooh I can't wait to see how many factions/rebels are playable.
:jumping::jumping::jumping:
The excitment over at TW center forums is a bit on fully tilt, even more so then here (no 9 page threads here).
That said the game looks very good and lots to be excited about, each day that ticks away is one day closer to the glorious game :)
More like rabid. You could lose an arm over there in their demo thread! :skull:Quote:
Originally Posted by Polemists
The more I think about it, I'm really looking forward to the AI and the merging of the diplomatic and military AI schemes. Not having a faction being torn between trying to do two conflicting things at once would be nice, and then there's the battle AI which I'm itching to test. Unfortunately the only way to truly test them both is to get my hands on the retail product so i'll just have to wait. :yes:
Yes....that's not me in that thread......that's that OTHER Polemists in that demo thread....lolQuote:
More like rabid. You could lose an arm over there in their demo thread!
The more I look at the maps the more excited I get about trade theatres and the possibilities.Quote:
I'm really looking forward to the AI and the merging of the diplomatic and military AI schemes.
Yes....unless you know CA provided us with something, perhaps a small set of files that would help DEMOnstrate how the game works properly.Quote:
Unfortunately the only way to truly test them both is to get my hands on the retail product so i'll just have to wait.
In the end, I'm looking forward to playing Total War because Creative Assembly is one of the only development teams I fully respect and admire both for their work as well as the way they treat their fans. I've played their games for years and they always get me to come back when their new incarnation of lovely historic entertainment. I was talking with my father recently about when I began playing video games and how without games like Civilisation, Age of Empires and Total War I'd not have been drawn into the intrigue and spectacle that history holds.
Past games may have frustrated me at times but truth be told, many of those annoyances were likely born from the over-skeptical viewpoint the internet fosters. Heck, I still don't enjoy playing RTW without the EB mod; perhaps I'm too picky now that I've been indoctrinated into the mindset that the game has to be a certain way, a certain balance, flawless, etc. Anyway, I'd likely not even notice various flaws in the game if I played it first before shuddering at the threads of issues declaring "XYZ is unbalanced! ABC is glitchy!" because only once I've read such things do I peer at them in a new, negative light, where they were once nearly imperceptible. Kind of like that squeaky door you barely noticed until someone mentioned it to you and now it grates on your nerves.
In short, I'm looking forward to being enveloped in the atmosphere of the campaign map, marching my troops into battle, smiling at the drifting smoke of freshly fired muskets and relishing the lingering echoes of fleeing foes! :2thumbsup:
you sir are a god amongst demo fanatics :egypt: BOOOWWWWWW DOWNNNNNNNNNNNQuote:
Originally Posted by Polemists
hehe
i must endeavor to the TWC forums to view this monstrosity.
EDIT: btw im lookin forward to an end to the speculation and worrying, all these people posting threads about how there worried bout certain features cos of 1 bad line in a review or 1 bad thing in a vid they saw. wait for the game b4 u start trashing it shesh!
All the above (apart from Steam!), but I voted for improved AI (both campaign and battle) because I'm just itching to see if it really has been improved as much as CA claim :2thumbsup:
Hats, wigs, and facial hair was barely edged out by guns.
In both Medievals, I was all about the late game when I could first field culverins and arquebusiers. So what if my primitive musketmen take appalling casualties when they actually have to engage in melee? That's what the meat shields are for!
As you might guess, I LOVE the Americas Campaign and the Britannia Campaign. Spanish Dragoons and Mounted Calivermen are my buddies.
As Metallica said in their excellent cover of Whiskey in the Jar, "some men like to hear, to hear the cannonballs roarin'..." This man is one of them. :smg:
Well I think today i'm at this stage
It's still a little under a month away but still can't wait :)Quote:
I'm Too Busy Drooling With Anticipation To Answer!
None of us can. Thats why we keep making threads like this even though there is no real point to them. We just need something to do to stop us trying to storm CA and get the game by force. :laugh4:Quote:
Originally Posted by Polemists
I am really looking forward to the new and improved AI. If it is as good as they (CA) claim it is then we should be in for a real treat.
Definitely Multiplayer. I hope it'll be awesome.
If it is as good as some have said it is then some of us may be in for a good thumping!Quote:
Originally Posted by ByzanKing
So long as it is not overpowered units and AI only exploits I can’t say that I mind so much.
A bit of a challenge is good and I have sweated through battles in other games…I just wonder if it is so when they talk so much of fun factors. That to me usually means, nerffed so the dumb guys don’t loose, in code, to me…:oops:
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Let's hope that is not the case, had enough of that in the vanilla RTW and M2TW. Don't want to have to wait for the modders to ramp up the AI this time. :rtwyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Fisherking
I voted AI. My actual answer is a game that returns CA to their past glory from the dregs of M2TW ie a game that compels me to keep playing it over and over because it is so brilliant.
Has anyone got any resources i can look at regards to the new AI? I've read some reviews and the AI dev blog (but it merley mentioned that the tester and developer are working together heh) and basically all i've got so far is 'The AI has been improved considerably'.
Any good articles on it specifically?
There are a few things out there mentioning AI, but they are difficult to find.Quote:
Originally Posted by Necceh
A few commonly occuring comments are:
The battle AI and diplomatic AI now work together for a more realistic opponent.
The AI can evaluate its current campaign situation and use appropriate battle map tactics.
The battle map AI constantly reevaluates its position and changes tactics accordingly. It wont get stuck attempting to perform a series of set scripted actions.
Each faction and some generals will have signature tactics that they employ.