New French preview

Some press thing in Paris. Report here: http://www.universtotalwar.fr/Forum/...showtopic=2294

New info:

- Trade agreements increase relations over time.
- Scotland and Ireland will be prone to rebellion at the beginning, especially Scotland, and will be able to form new nations.
- Trade routes colour coded to indicate status.
- You can appoint generals from your most experienced units!
- Infantry can use grapples for climbing walls.
- The population of a captured city prefer that you didn't destroy it in the capturing.
- Captured ships can be renamed.
- Loading is much faster, except when there's a town involved.
- They saw 4x4 multiplayer going on.
- You can demand the surrender of a beseiged town before battle.
- The lack of sound in the demo was due to a missing file ... but there won't be pipes or fifes.
- They will be working a set of modding tools.
- Rumours of an expansion based on Robert Lee's battles; speculation about a Napoleonic or a Civil War expansion.

Except for the exclusion of pipes and fifes (~:mecry:), Nice!

Y'know the French always make good stuff.


No, it doesn't work.

Anyways, this is cool

Aww no pipes or drums. It doesn't surprise me to read that a possible expansion would cover Napoleon and maybe end with the US civil war. That would be roughly 50 or so years? Lots of room for new tech and factions. In any case, it might provide with a tiny peek at what a hypotetical modern TW game would look like, to use the survey that came out last month, a WW I game. I think depending on the popularity of Empire and the expansion might determine the fate of the future TW game and whether it moves into the 20th century or goes to ancient China, Greece or Japan as suggested by the survey, IMO.

What was going on in Europe during the 1860's? Were people drinking their tea and reading the newspapers and laughing at the Americans and their little war?:laugh4: The only global implication that I can up with off the top of my head is that instead of having one trading partner in the US, you'll have two, the USA and the CSA.:idea2:

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Aww no pipes or drums. It doesn't surprise me to read that a possible expansion would cover Napoleon and maybe end with the US civil war. That would be roughly 50 or so years? Lots of room for new tech and factions. In any case, it might provide with a tiny peek at what a hypotetical modern TW game would look like, to use the survey that came out last month, a WW I game. I think depending on the popularity of Empire and the expansion might determine the fate of the future TW game and whether it moves into the 20th century or goes to ancient China, Greece or Japan as suggested by the survey, IMO.

What was going on in Europe during the 1860's? Were people drinking their tea and reading the newspapers and laughing at the Americans and their little war?:laugh4: The only global implication that I can up with off the top of my head is that instead of having one trading partner in the US, you'll have two, the USA and the CSA.:idea2:

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Italian unification, publication of Alice in Wonderland.

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Originally Posted by A Very Super Market

Y'know the French always make good stuff.


No, it doesn't work.

Anyways, this is cool

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GAH! Not again.:dizzy2:

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Originally Posted by quadalpha

Italian unification, publication of Alice in Wonderland.

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German unification, and the Red River "Rebellion" in Canada's westward expansion. Ignore Mailman's USA-centrism.

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Originally Posted by Mailman653

What was going on in Europe during the 1860's? Were people drinking their tea and reading the newspapers and laughing at the Americans and their little war?:laugh4: The only global implication that I can up with off the top of my head is that instead of having one trading partner in the US, you'll have two, the USA and the CSA.:idea2:

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The first thing that popped into my head was the Crimean War, but thats in the 1850s, so i was a decade off. Can't really think of anything that happened in that decade.

Though I hope that if the American Civil War is portrayed in a comming xpack, it's done so as a relatively minor event, or one that would "close out" the expansion. Focusing too much on that conflict would be boring since there were only two major players, both American. At least IIRC.

The Austro-Prussian War of 1866.

Does anyone actually know about the Red River Rebellion?

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The first thing that popped into my head was the Crimean War, but thats in the 1850s, so i was a decade off.

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But thats perfectly fine, if the expansion starts with Napoleon, lets say 1800 and the US civil war ends in 1865, then that means we have 65 years of game play. It would be nice if they made each one their own seperate campaign, M2TW expansion style. It would really focus the action to one reigon or regions rather than worrying whats going on across the globe.

There was plenty going on in Europe during the 1860s. At the beginning of the decade was the Franco-Austrian War (1859) in Italy that paved the way for the Kingdom of Sardinia (Savoy) to unify most of the peninsula the next year; The Second Schleswig War (1864) where Austria and Prussia annexed the southern territories of Denmark within the German Confederation. Two years later, Prussia kicked Austria out of German affairs permenantly in the Austro-Prussian War (1866), with newly consolidated Italy supporting Prussia. This war had the strange incident at the battle of Lissa, when the desperate Austrian admiral ordered his ironclads to close to point-blank range and ram the more powerful Italian warships, actually succeeding in winning the battle. At the end of the decade, Prussia, leading the new North German Confederation and their southern Allies invaded France in the Franco-Prussian War (1870-1871), which ended in unification and creation of Second German Reich, the deposition of Napoleon III and the German annexation of Alsace-Lorraine. So, the 1860s were also quite exciting for Europe as well. These are just the major wars that involved the big powers within Europe. In the colonial sphere, in 1860, Great Britain and France launched an expedition against China in the Second Opium War. In 1861-67, a coalition of European powers led by France unsuccessfully attempted to install the Austrian Maximilian of Habsburg-Lorraine as the first emperor of Mexico, leading to his execution in 1867. In Asia, the Taiping rebellion finally ends in 1864 after 14 years with the fall of Nanjing; in Japan, the Meiji Restoration takes place 1866-69.

Chairman

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There was plenty going on in Europe during the 1860s. At the beginning of the decade was the Franco-Austrian War (1859) in Italy that paved the way for the Kingdom of Sardinia (Savoy) to unify most of the peninsula the next year; The Second Schleswig War (1864) where Austria and Prussia annexed the southern territories of Denmark within the German Confederation. Two years later, Prussia kicked Austria out of German affairs permenantly in the Austro-Prussian War (1866), with newly consolidated Italy supporting Prussia. This war had the strange incident at the battle of Lissa, when the desperate Austrian admiral ordered his ironclads to close to point-blank range and ram the more powerful Italian warships, actually succeeding in winning the battle. At the end of the decade, Prussia, leading the new North German Confederation and their southern Allies invaded France in the Franco-Prussian War (1870-1871), which ended in unification and creation of Second German Reich, the deposition of Napoleon III and the German annexation of Alsace-Lorraine. So, the 1860s were also quite exciting for Europe as well. These are just the major wars that involved the big powers within Europe. In the colonial sphere, in 1860, Great Britain and France launched an expedition against China in the Second Opium War. In 1861-67, a coalition of European powers led by France unsuccessfully attempted to install the Austrian Maximilian of Habsburg-Lorraine as the first emperor of Mexico, leading to his execution in 1867. In Asia, the Taiping rebellion finally ends in 1864 after 14 years with the fall of Nanjing; in Japan, the Meiji Restoration takes place 1866-69.

Chairman

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Damn your eyes, you didn't mention the Red River Rebellion!

Unfortunately, Canadian history usually gets forgotten when things go crazy. I bet you Amis don't even know who Louis Riel is.

Bah. They don't even know who the Metis are, and wouldn't even recognize the little flags of my nationality in my sig if the lives of their hot mothers were on the line.

*spits*

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- You can demand the surrender of a beseiged town before battle.

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This will be very sweet as long as the AI actually will sometimes use the option at appropriate times.
Presumably the player gets the option to surrender in defence too?

Hopefully the soldiers that surrender will be allowed to leave unmolested & join up with their side elsewhere, at least most of the time.

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- They saw 4x4 multiplayer going on.

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I think Napoleon is the obvious expansion, as it should be. I would also like a Civil War campaign, but it would have to be re-worked a bit as it would primarily focus on the two countries. That would mean more internal management of the country and making each battle more pivotal. It could be done, and would sell well in America. :yes:

Considering the game ends in 1799, the year Napoleon became head of France, the expansion will probably be about him. Maybe they can throw the U.S. in as well for the War of 1812 and they could add another region in for trade.

It would be nice to see the 19th century campaign with an expanded world map. It would love to take part in the Meiji Restoration (or prevent it).

I'd like the expansion to add more stuff into the main campaign. The main campaign is what keeps me coming back to the game after all.

The expansion could add Africa, Asia and Australia, plus all of the factions those areas would need. It would be great to see China, Japan, the Zulu and other factions added in.

I wouldn't mind if it had a Napoleon campaign as well though :2thumbsup:.

I would like something more like BI. Same map but more filled out with nice new features!:beam:

I would like the expansion to jump back 100 years from 1700. On the same campaign map, with colourful uniforms, pikeman, musketeers,
drummers, curassiers, lots of flags and banners. :yes:

The ships (like the ones from 17. Century mucho mucho more) with plain sails (nice feature to olden the sails!) and lots of emblems .... :yes:

That's what i wanted b4 ETW was announced, now an expansion would be nice.

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I would like the expansion to jump back 100 years from 1700. On the same campaign map, with colourful uniforms, pikeman, musketeers,
drummers, curassiers, lots of flags and banners. :yes:

The ships (like the ones from 17. Century mucho mucho more) with plain sails (nice feature to olden the sails!) and lots of emblems .... :yes:

That's what i wanted b4 ETW was announced, now an expansion would be nice.

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I wish Empire had started in 1600 and ran onwards to 1820. It would have been fantastic to see the technology progress. Ah well, maybe Empire 2? :laugh4: Or a mod possibly.

1860 was the Industrial revolution leading up to the first world war.

I would have thought the expansion would have been Asia.

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Originally Posted by TiberiusBeskar

1860 was the Industrial revolution leading up to the first world war.

I would have thought the expansion would have been Asia.

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If CA go down the Kingdoms route then it could indeed by Asia, as well as the American civil war and Napoleon. :2thumbsup:

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If CA go down the Kingdoms route then it could indeed by Asia, as well as the American civil war and Napoleon. :2thumbsup:

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So, we'll get 2-3 expansions:

EMPIRE: REVOLUTION

With all the stuff from 1800 onwards; Napoleonic, American Civil War, Zulu Wars (African Wars) ...

EMPIRE: RENAISSANCE

With all the stuff i'd like to see ...

EMPIRE: TIDES OF ASIA

With the possibility to do some "Shogun2"?


Marten

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So, we'll get 2-3 expansions:

EMPIRE: REVOLUTION

With all the stuff from 1800 onwards; Napoleonic, American Civil War, Zulu Wars (African Wars) ...

EMPIRE: RENAISSANCE

With all the stuff i'd like to see ...

EMPIRE: TIDES OF ASIA

With the possibility to do some "Shogun2"?


Marten

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I hope so :2thumbsup:, but three expansions is a bit more than CA are probably prepared to make. Unless Empire makes incredible amounts of money.

Everbody buy ten copies of Empire and then burn 9 of them. Rinse, repeat. That'll get us more expansions!

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Everbody buy ten copies of Empire and then burn 9 of them. Rinse, repeat. That'll get us more expansions!

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We should all collect the other nine copies and then use them to build a giant Org mansion for the Mods and Assistant Mods :2thumbsup:.

The friendly fire "bug" must have been fixed. This is information out of Germany and France now with no mention of it. I mean, if it was a big issue SOMEONE would notice it.

It was probably just a case of typical demo bugginess.

I wonder if pipers and fifers can be added by modding.

Imagine: Highlander units with pipes and UK grenadier units marching to the tune of British Grenadiers March!!!

I am getting goosebumps just thinking about it.

I wonder what makes the music start? Is it bound to the unit, so that when they start walking it starts up? I

If it is like that, then modding them would be a snap.

http://translate.google.com/translat...hl=en&ie=UTF-8

Here it is translated into english for those of us who cant speak french. :bow:

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Originally Posted by Megas Methuselah

Damn your eyes, you didn't mention the Red River Rebellion!

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Excuse me, but I was deliberetly trying to discuss conflicts outside of North America. I hope you forgive me. Please :sweatdrop:. Besides, while I am not an expert on Canadian history, I am somewhat familiar with the Red River Rebellion. But if I had included it, I would have had to include all the nasty Indian Wars in the American west. And that would have ruined the point.

Chairman

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Originally Posted by quadalpha

- Trade agreements increase relations over time.
- Scotland and Ireland will be prone to rebellion at the beginning, especially Scotland, and will be able to form new nations.
- Trade routes colour coded to indicate status.
- You can appoint generals from your most experienced units!
- Infantry can use grapples for climbing walls.
- The population of a captured city prefer that you didn't destroy it in the capturing.
- Captured ships can be renamed.
- Loading is much faster, except when there's a town involved.
- They saw 4x4 multiplayer going on.
- You can demand the surrender of a beseiged town before battle.
- The lack of sound in the demo was due to a missing file ... but there won't be pipes or fifes.
- They will be working a set of modding tools.
- Rumours of an expansion based on Robert Lee's battles; speculation about a Napoleonic or a Civil War expansion.

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I am very very glad to hear that, no more having to fight tiny enemy armies by marching my full stack through narrow city streets, just because Autoresolve would give me disproportionate casualties. Excellent news! :2thumbsup:

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I am very very glad to hear that, no more having to fight tiny enemy armies by marching my full stack through narrow city streets, just because Autoresolve would give me disproportionate casualties. Excellent news! :2thumbsup:

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It's only excellent news if the AI will use it. I have given factions down to their last city in Med 2 plenty of hances to become my vassal or take a ceasefire but theu refuse. Often when I have a giagantic army sitting outside their gates. Let's hope the AI is smarter this time around.

GRAPPLES! YAY!!!
All the other small details (eg towns can surrender) are nice too-they help fill the game out and make it that much more enjoyable.

The french cover fir ETW

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Originally Posted by Megas Methuselah

Does anyone actually know about the Red River Rebellion?

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not a thing, care to enlighten us?

Well gosh, not wikipedia or anything.

Its a rebellion led by opressed Metis (French-native mix) in short. But search it up for more detailed info.