Sasquatch?

There was a recent post on fears where Monk understandably mentioned that he was a bit spooked by the Big Guy and I wanted to know what people thought about this thing? Real? Not real? Got any stories??

I live in the very heart of the Bigfoot Country in Southern British Columbia; not far from Sasquatch Provincial Park actually.

I've never acutally seen one or found any tracks, but very interestingly about 5 years ago I was out in my kayak on Harrison Lake at dusk and I heard that raskal calling out plain as could be. It was very spooky + even though it was too dark to see anything I have no doubt what it was; I've never heard such a sound before (or since).

http://beeryeti.files.wordpress.com/.../sasquatch.jpg

Wow, calm down, buddy. :dizzy2:

It was a bear. It's always a bear.

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Originally Posted by Megas Methuselah

Wow, calm down, buddy. :dizzy2:

It was a bear. It's always a bear.

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Megas is the sasquatch.

Quiet, platypus-boi.

Of course it exists, much more fun. If you for for a hike you need campfire story's.

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Originally Posted by Kurando

There was a recent post on fears where Monk understandably mentioned that he was a bit spooked by the Big Guy and I wanted to know what people thought about this thing? Real? Not real? Got any stories??

I live in the very heart of the Bigfoot Country in Southern British Columbia; not far from Sasquatch Provincial Park actually.

I've never acutally seen one or found any tracks, but very interestingly about 5 years ago I was out in my kayak on Harrison Lake at dusk and I heard that raskal calling out plain as could be. It was very spooky + even though it was too dark to see anything I have no doubt what it was; I've never heard such a sound before (or since).

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I live in Western Washington, near the Cascades. And I just can't say with certainty that it doesn't exist. There's so much land, so much forest, out there...

There are local legends that pertain to him even as far east as Ohio. Every now and then you'll hear stories of people who saw "something" in the western part of the state.

Whether he exists or not I dunno, but I can tell you my fear of him is very real. I wouldn't want to run into him on a dark night off the trail. :skull:

Hanging with the Sasquatch; always fascinated me that a human-like primate could be out there. I've seen some tv programs of people trying to prove/disprove sightings, and even though some have been shown to be hoaxes others have not. The terrain is so rugged & remote that anything is possible.

Don't y'all have Sasquatch Festivals up there? Maybe they can be lured out with some good old foot stomping music and a big bag of slim-jims?:elephant: we need a dancing sasquatch smiley

If a wild animal doesn't want to be found you won't see it. Even in the netherlands we have wild bobcats for example, but the chance of actually seeing one is zero to none and we hardly have any forest, much unlike the US.

i think its possible that it exists, but i also think many of the sightings have been faked.

Don't be stupid, everyone knows the Loch Ness Monster is the only legendary creature that actually exists.

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Originally Posted by Hooahguy

i think its possible that it exists, but i also think many of the sightings have been faked.

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That's really the disappointing aspect to many of these sort of stories. So many have been faked it nearly discredits the entire idea. IMO the possibility is quite real (as testament to my emotions on the subject!), it's just mind boggling that so little evidence has been found after all this time. Is it really that hard to find some kinda carcass? Apparently. :skull:

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Originally Posted by Monk

That's really the disappointing aspect to many of these sort of stories. So many have been faked it nearly discredits the entire idea. IMO the possibility is quite real (as testament to my emotions on the subject!), it's just mind boggling that so little evidence has been found after all this time. Is it really that hard to find some kinda carcass? Apparently. :skull:

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wasnt it the same for the loch ness monster?

The thing with the loch ness monster is that there are similar creatures reported in lakes in Turkey and South Africa. Could be true, probably not, but it's nice to have these little mysteries.

Not only does bigfoot exist, he has needs.

A man who claims that he was molested by Bigfoot as a child was ordered to serve 20 years in prison yesterday for his own molestation-related activities. [...] Morrill told an investigator preparing his pre-sentence report about being sexually assaulted by the legendary Bigfoot, a North American folklore character said to be between 7 and 10 feet tall, and covered in dark brown or dark reddish hair. Patton said Morrill really believes the assaulted happened.

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Originally Posted by Monk

That's really the disappointing aspect to many of these sort of stories. So many have been faked it nearly discredits the entire idea. IMO the possibility is quite real (as testament to my emotions on the subject!), it's just mind boggling that so little evidence has been found after all this time. Is it really that hard to find some kinda carcass? Apparently. :skull:

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Unless they bury their dead somehow.

CR

If there really is an undiscovered large primate in the Pacific Northwest, I look forward to seeing hard evidence. Short of irrefutable physical evidence, however ...

Who knows? I'm not going to say it can't exist, because it really could. But I'm not going to say it does exist.. I don't know.

People need to stop hunting after that poor creature and let him/her live in peace. :hippie:

What I really want to know is what on earth this is.

Btw, that picture in the OP is taken from a supposed video of the Sasquatch. Funnily enough, it was female, it had floppy breasts, and it sort of walked funny.

It also had these weird eye slits that suggested the whole thing might have been an elaborate costume. :laugh4:

Ok you might not be able to find a huge ape in an american woodland but...

...this for a second...

...there are 'bigfoot' legends all over the world and active 'sightings' too...

...so...

...if there was such a thing, dont you think that it would have been discovered in at least one of those locations?


My explanation is simple:

a) Bigfoot, much like 18 year old virgin girls, doesn't exist. They are a figment of our imagination.

However there is a really good expanation why our imagination spawns 'bigfoot' and 'goblins' etc...

Until very recently our ancestors cohabited this planet with a plethora of other hominids and primates. There were apes at least twice the size of a gorilla and hominids half our size. Some of these things were so big that they would scare the living :daisy: out of our ancestors when they met them in the forest and some of these things were small and agile enough that would perhaps live off trying to steal our supplies and being a nuisance. Hence Bigfoot, Goblins etc etc...

Consequently I theorise that the fear of such primates is hardcoded into our DNA.

My hypothesis about those sasquatch, yeti, and other humanoid's caracass...

Maybe we allready find them, a lot of them, but because they resemblance human too close... they are landed in police forensic department as "unidentifiable corpse", or "murder / accident victim"..... especially when their caracass is allready rotten....

I remember, there was a story in my country, about an "unidentifiable corpse" that turns out to be dead orang utan :laugh4: (after lot of investigation)

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Originally Posted by Shinseikhaan

What I really want to know is what on earth this is.

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Shinseikhaan-san, I gotta admit I also think a great deal about the Bloop. It's right up there with other great mysteries of our era.

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Originally Posted by Shinseikhaan

What I really want to know is what on earth this is.

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There's a whole host of unidentified sounds. The Upsweep one sounds like the Warcraft monster spawn sound. :uhoh:

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Originally Posted by rasoforos

a) Bigfoot, much like 18 year old virgin girls, doesn't exist. They are a figment of our imagination.

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The second part of that is untrue, but rest assured I'm doing my best to make it true.

:pimp:

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Originally Posted by rasoforos

a) Bigfoot, much like 18 year old virgin girls, doesn't exist. They are a figment of our imagination.

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Then I only have three months to avoid being legendary :laugh4:

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Originally Posted by pevergreen

The second part of that is untrue, but rest assured I'm doing my best to make it true.

:pimp:

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agreed. :grin:
i think only a few of the girls in my school over 18 arent virgins.

Over my school, out of... say 27 gals, I can only imagine 5 or 6 that might not be virgins. :shrug:

If you really see a Sasquatch, you must have the guts to shoot it down and recover the cadaver. Photos or video footage will never solve the mystery. A new species that's to be described scientifically must be killed to be anatomically investigated, like it or not. :shrug:

Now that I think about it the whole Bigfoot thing is complete rubbish. When there are no smaller apes able to live in the area, what should a giant sasquatch live on? Does it eat the trees or what? Or is it a predator, scaring bears and mooses to death?

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Originally Posted by Fragony

Of course it exists, much more fun. If you for for a hike you need campfire story's.

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Silly plain 'ol me thinks that Fragony nailed the whole thing right there...
After all, it is much more fun and cool. What more could we possibly ask for?!?


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The Yeti lives! If not, show me absolute proof for it! :laugh4:

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Originally Posted by Kurando

Shinseikhaan-san, I gotta admit I also think a great deal about the Bloop. It's right up there with other great mysteries of our era.

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:yes:

I'm not usually one for digging into monster stories or the unexplainable, but the bloop really baffles me and I'm a bit paranoid as to what could cause it. And this isn't like some random boater heard it.... this was gov't recorded, on the record. Unlike a lot of horror/mystery stories we get drilled into our head, the bloop was/is real, without a shadow of doubt. Maybe someday we'll figure out what caused it.



Or maybe.... just maybe.... it was actually a sound emitted by the Octo-Squid generalissimo, to signal to his legion of demon-spawn that the time to plot for their coup of humanity had begun. ~:eek:

I think Sasquatch could exsist...but the jury is still definitely out.

Come on everyone, you need to pull your heads out of the sand, there is no way that sasquatch's exist.

The only real undiscovered hominid is the yowie.

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Originally Posted by miotas

Come on everyone, you need to pull your heads out of the sand, there is no way that sasquatch's exist.

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We have our heads out of the sand - that's why we believe! :stare:

CR
~;p

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Originally Posted by miotas

Come on everyone, you need to pull your heads out of the sand, there is no way that sasquatch's exist.

The only real undiscovered hominid is the yowie.

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The yowie! Not as scary as drop bears or the bunyip.

Drop bears scare the hell out of me.

Good discussion guys + I am gonna elaborate on what I mentioned in the initial posts about the time I heard one. Here's what went down + I'll stake my rep at the org on it as the gospel truth, to the very best of my memory.

Years ago I was out Harrison Lake which is a pretty massive lake about 60 km long + it's connected to the sea by a slow moving river + seals come up the river all the time.

I was on the south-eastern part of the lake, very wild coast line. I'm not sure what time of year it was, but it was got dark fairly earily. I have been kayaking for 20 years and I often stay out after dark.

At dusk the water fowl were going nuts way across the lake making a racket, ducks or Canada geese I guess, but they often do that in the evening. The sound was carrying across the water about 6 km to my location and I was kinda wishing they'd shut up. There were no houses for about 5 kilometers in any direction, and at this time of year even those houses would be uninhabited.

I was really close to shore maybe about 20 feet, and I was whiping in and out of the little bays that dot the coast. All of a sudden I smelled something very bad; a few years before I had encountered a bloated-dead seal floating in the water and it stunk in a simmilar way; so I got tunnel vision and thought "there's a dead seal in the water" I was sort of floating there in the bay focusing on the water to see where the dead seal was, I could smell it, but I couldn't see it... After about 30 seconds of not finding it I just shrugged my shoulders and moved on.

About 8-10 minutes later I was paddling along, with the ducks across the way still making a racket and that's when I heard it. Instantly I was like "Wow, what the hell was that!???" I pulled my paddle out of the water because unfortunately just as I heard what I'd heard I was on the backstroke "splash" of the paddle so I didn't hear it that well.

At this point I was drifting silently listening as carefully as I could, and I noticed that EVERYTHING on the lake was suddenly silent also.

Then after about 15 seconds I heard it again, plain as could be this time, and the call came from about 700 meters behind me right from the bay that I had thought I smelled the seal. It was a wierd "buzzing" kind of a call, but the thing is it had this presence to it. Like "I'm the King of the Jungle" kinda presence... It's like you might imagine that it might be like on an Africian Savanna when a Lion suddenly calls out and everything goes silent, even the crickets...

Very amazing + I have a feeling that it was in the woods in that bay when I stopped there, but I was so sure I'd see a bloated-dead seal that I didn't realize that the smell was coming from the woods and not the water. It might even have been watching me from the woods, but I just wasn't looking in the right place to see it.

Sorry to rain on the parade, but the essential difficulty for all advocates of these large, mythical creatures is simple biology.

For them to survive at all, there must be a significant population available for breeding. This population must be dense enough for individuals to find one another reasonably effectively (unless one argues that they reproduce by parthenogenesis). Large mammals that are usually solitary by habit (the common descriptor of this legend) have to leave substantial clues at breeding time so that they can find each other.

Relict populations of large mammals tend to die out pretty rapidly precisely because of this lack of a viable population.

It's the same for the Loch Ness monster. To paraphrase, there cannot be only one.

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Originally Posted by pevergreen

The yowie! Not as scary as drop bears or the bunyip.

Drop bears scare the hell out of me.

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Those bunyips are big, scary SOB's and those drop bears are sneaky little buggers, but they aren't hominids like the yowie.

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Originally Posted by Banquo's Ghost

Sorry to rain on the parade, but the essential difficulty for all advocates of these large, mythical creatures is simple biology.

For them to survive at all, there must be a significant population available for breeding. This population must be dense enough for individuals to find one another reasonably effectively (unless one argues that they reproduce by parthenogenesis). Large mammals that are usually solitary by habit (the common descriptor of this legend) have to leave substantial clues at breeding time so that they can find each other.

Relict populations of large mammals tend to die out pretty rapidly precisely because of this lack of a viable population.

It's the same for the Loch Ness monster. To paraphrase, there cannot be only one.

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This is why the yowies are certainly the only undiscovered hominids, they are very short, they can hide very well, and very little of Australia is populated.

That's not a pic of a woodland monster. That's my granny coming home on a Saturday night.

http://beeryeti.files.wordpress.com/.../sasquatch.jpg

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Originally Posted by Banquo's Ghost

For them to survive at all, there must be a significant population available for breeding. This population must be dense enough for individuals to find one another reasonably effectively

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Shouldn't be that hard to find eachother if even we can smell them.

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Originally Posted by Fragony

Shouldn't be that hard to find eachother if even we can smell them.

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If they can be smelt by humans, they can be tracked by dogs. :stupido2:

Except the story goes that the scent sends dogs cowering away with their tails between their legs…
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No. :no:

Just, No. :book:

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

While I'm here I also want to mention that I was debating this recently with Jesus, a chupacabra, and an invisible pink unicorn. They all agreed with me that Sasquatch is a complete fantasy, and the unicorn is a stinking evolutionary biologist, so I think he'd know better than all you duffers.

:egypt:

No offense guys, but this thread is rather funny :balloon:

Don't mess with the sasquatch

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Originally Posted by Rhyfelwyr

Don't mess with the sasquatch

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that was so funny!!!!!!!!!!!!

LOL, (ROTFL actually), that was classic Rhyfelwyr!

Haha, Rhy. Nice. :laugh4:

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Originally Posted by Banquo's Ghost

If they can be smelt by humans, they can be tracked by dogs. :stupido2:

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Your common sense needs a little bit of romance, all the poorer for it.

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Originally Posted by Banquo's Ghost

Relict populations of large mammals tend to die out pretty rapidly precisely because of this lack of a viable population.

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What would you consider to be a viable population? Would 500 be enough?

It's kind difficult to get your head around how much unexplored area there is here in British Columbia. I live in what you might consider a fairly populated part of the province and even still I can get in my truck, drive for 1 hour, get out and walk into the woods for 30 minutes, and literally within that 90 minutes be standing in a place where no human being has ever stood before. -For someone who's not from here it might be hard to relate to, but it's unimaginably vast wilderness out here.

Here's a good example: in BC during the past 70 years over 50 aircraft (the majority of which with flight plans filed) have crashed and been lost WITHOUT A TRACE, and that's despite some spirited searches by highly-trained search and rescue personnelle.

If we have 50 aircract somewhere out in the BC wilderness with no trace, I'd suggest that we could easily have 500 large animals out in there with no trace.

I enjoy the stories, and the chill that runs up my spine when I hear coyotes or pumas howl up in Desolation Wilderness at night while on an extended backpack trip. But I'm going to have to go with the side of "no proof, no truth" on this one. I won't say it's impossible, but I do think it highly improbable.

Sasquatch tales did make for great summer camp "out-in-the-woods overnight roasting marshmallows over the fire" stories though. Well, too good maybe. My fellow counselors and I got in some light trouble a couple weeks after one kid had gone home (he was about 13-14). His parents had called and complained that the camp-out stories/pranks had scared him so bad that he was having nightmares and waking up yelling and screaming. We had to tone it down a bit after that, meh.

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Originally Posted by Kurando

What would you consider to be a viable population? Would 500 be enough?

It's kind difficult to get your head around how much unexplored area there is here in British Columbia. I live in what you might consider a fairly populated part of the province and even still I can get in my truck, drive for 1 hour, get out and walk into the woods for 30 minutes, and literally within that 90 minutes be standing in a place where no human being has ever stood before. -For someone who's not from here it might be hard to relate to, but it's unimaginably vast wilderness out here.

Here's a good example: in BC during the past 70 years over 50 aircraft (the majority of which with flight plans filed) have crashed and been lost WITHOUT A TRACE, and that's despite some spirited searches by highly-trained search and rescue personnelle.

If we have 50 aircract somewhere out in the BC wilderness with no trace, I'd suggest that we could easily have 500 large animals out in there with no trace.

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So very jealous, I don't think there is a single mile without a roadsign here. Can we have some of that space you have so much of??

Fragony, hehe, actually the Fraser Valley where I live was originally a massive lake which no longer exists called Sumas Lake + the outlying region is too rugged to build on. It was the Dutch farmers who immigrated here in the earily part of the last century who were experts in such realms + they made the whole Fraser Valley liveable with dams and levees. So, if you want to move over here you'd be most welcome. The ancestors of those Dutch farmers are everywhere hereabouts! We have almost as many orange people in this Valley as we have green space around it.

I you want to mess up nature accept no subsitude, we will drain and we will gain. Thx for your valley but we really are out of room to store it, it's like 40 times the Netherlands where to put it.

A very important discussion on another forum: What would you do if a sasquatch slammed through your door intent on raping you?

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Apparently this subject has been given a lot of thought. There's even a movie: Ape Canyon.

"In Ape Canyon a lone Bigfoot (North America's Greatest Lover) roams the forests of the Pacific Northwest. He brings his gift of Red Hot Sasquatch Love to nature-loving ladies everywhere, whether they're hugging trees or simply camping and hiking. Bored waitress Darcy (Clover Lutter) had one unforgettable encounter and now she wants more. Night and day, she combs the woods for Bigfoot, calling to him, reciting love poems, and yearning for the wild, hairy touch of the beast who can satisfy her better than any man. Darcy's jealous husband Bill (Chris Henry) is also hot on the trail of Sasquatch, but he's coming with guns blazing. Time is running out for Bigfoot. Will Darcy win his heart before it's too late — or will the consequences of his untamed libido bring his wild ways to an explosive end?"

https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v...ootRomance.jpg

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Originally Posted by Kurando

Here's a good example: in BC during the past 70 years over 50 aircraft (the majority of which with flight plans filed) have crashed and been lost WITHOUT A TRACE, and that's despite some spirited searches by highly-trained search and rescue personnelle.

If we have 50 aircract somewhere out in the BC wilderness with no trace, I'd suggest that we could easily have 500 large animals out in there with no trace.

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That's pretty incredible. :dizzy2:

Speaking of Ape Canyon... apparently some miners were attacked by a group of sasquatch at said canyon on Mt St Helens way back.

CR

@Kurando:

When you're out in the woods, do you happen to drink fresh water from the springs and creeks running freely there? Because these are likely to be lightly contaminated with quicksilver in some areas of BC. It won't kill you, but it will cause halluzinations. People see all sort of things when they drink too much of it, I'd imagine hearing Bigfoot would be pretty much the first you'd experience in that case.

Apparently some ambitious soul made a Sasquatch porno in 1981. A lost classic, I bet.

https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v...ania/geekb.jpg

After half the film is taken up with footage of them walking, the hikers finally stumble upon the first evidence of Sasquatch. The leader of the expedition describes it as a footprint, and we’ll take his word for it that’s what the ripple in the dirt is. A few moments later, they find a pile of Bigfoot [fecal material] and decide this must be the beast’s camp.

And they’re right.

As they watch the nearby tree line, they suddenly spy Bigfoot. Quite clearly it’s just a guy in a very fake gorilla suit sans the head, with hair glued on his face. He grunts and growls, in his poorly-dubbed way, but he doesn’t frighten the hikers. No, if he did that, there’d be no Bigfoot [sexual activity], would there?

So, one of the hiker guys grabs one of his lady friends by the hand and pulls her toward Bigfoot. He coaxes her into making contact with the beast. Demurely, she approaches and holds out her delicate hand. Bigfoot sniffs her politely, then …

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Originally Posted by Banquo's Ghost

If they can be smelt by humans, they can be tracked by dogs. :stupido2:

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I have been wondering a great deal about this, and I am certenly no expert on hunting or using tracking dogs. So yeah, I too would like to know why no one has tried using dogs.

The only thing that I can think is that usually the hunting dogs here are used to track animals that will tree themselves for protection when they are in a weird situation. Basically Cougars and Black Bears will instinctively run up a tree if they get a weird vibe or if you chase after them.

I remember once I unexpectedly met a big black bear at a bend in a trail and both the bear and I took off running in opposite directions. After a few dozen steps I stopped and turned to have a look at where the bear went, and there he was: he went straight up the first tree he could find. The funny thing is it was up a 15 foot alder tree that was only about as thick around as my forearm. It was very comical to see this huge bear precariously teetering back-and-forth up this skinny little sapling. :laugh4:

Anyhoo, I am not sure, but in dense woods I don't think that you could effectively use dogs to track animals that don't tree themselves. We have wild wolves here, and I'd bet it would be futile to try and track them because even though the track could be initiated a wolf could cover far more distance than a blood hound, and a person on foot trying to follow-up for the kill would be at a spectacular disadvantage.

All tracking aside, there is no point trying to chase after something that can comparably out-distance the tracker in rough terrain, but then again, I have heard that up-north they use dogs to track and corner grizzly bears (which unlike black bears) are not prone to tree themselves, so who knows...?

Are there any avid .org hunters who can shed some light on this?

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Originally Posted by Centurio Nixalsverdrus

@Kurando:

When you're out in the woods, do you happen to drink fresh water from the springs and creeks running freely there? Because these are likely to be lightly contaminated with quicksilver in some areas of BC. It won't kill you, but it will cause halluzinations. People see all sort of things when they drink too much of it, I'd imagine hearing Bigfoot would be pretty much the first you'd experience in that case.

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Well, good point, but everything else on the lake must have been hullicinating simultainously, because when that thing let out it's call you could have heard a pin drop.

The funny thing is that it was a "buzzing" and not a howl like I would have suspected it would make. I was always curious about this...

But a few years ago, after I heard it, I was up on the north end of the lake in (the most wild part) and there is a small native settlement up there called Port Douglas. I was just pulling my kayak into a cove to camp for the night and I saw three rough lookin native guys loading firewood into a small motorboat and I figured I didn't want any trouble with them so I got out of my kayak and gave them a hand.

I played it dumb and after the work was done I said "Hey, I'm not from around here, when I was driving through town and noticed all these signs saying 'sasquatch this-and-that'; so what's-up? That things not really real is it?"

The two younger guys laughed but the older guy shot them a look and he said "you know..." "...one time when I was a kid I was hunting nearby at Chehalis Lake with my uncle and suddenly we heard what we thought was a swarm of bees coming at us..." He imitated the noise "Buzzzzz Buzzzzz Buzzzzz" and then he said "we saw some steam rising from behind the trees and my uncle told me 'that's a sasquatch' so we turned around and got the hell out of there."

I thought it was very interesting the he discribed the same type of buzzing sound.

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Originally Posted by Kurando

Well, good point, but everything else on the lake must have been hullicinating simultainously, because when that thing let out it's call you could have heard a pin drop.

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That is a good point.

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Originally Posted by Kurando

But a few years ago, after I heard it, I was up on the north end of the lake in (the most wild part) and there is a small native settlement up there called Port Douglas. I was just pulling my kayak into a cove to camp for the night and I saw three rough lookin native guys loading firewood into a small motorboat and I figured I didn't want any trouble with them so I got out of my kayak and gave them a hand.

I played it dumb and after the work was done I said "Hey, I'm not from around here, when I was driving through town and noticed all these signs saying 'sasquatch this-and-that'; so what's-up? That things not really real is it?"

The two younger guys laughed but the older guy shot them a look and he said "you know..." "...one time when I was a kid I was hunting nearby at Chehalis Lake with my uncle and suddenly we heard what we thought was a swarm of bees coming at us..." He imitated the noise "Buzzzzz Buzzzzz Buzzzzz" and then he said "we saw some steam rising from behind the trees and my uncle told me 'that's a sasquatch' so we turned around and got the hell out of there."

I thought it was very interesting the he discribed the same type of buzzing sound.

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That's scary. Now I will be afraid when I make a wilderness trip there.

How can you go kayaking there when you really think there's a sasquatch somewhere, and especially if you think it's so dangerous that even hunters (with guns) run away? And why should an ape produce steam? Or can it even make fire?

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Originally Posted by Centurio Nixalsverdrus

How can you go kayaking there when you really think there's a sasquatch somewhere, and especially if you think it's so dangerous that even hunters (with guns) run away? And why should an ape produce steam? Or can it even make fire?

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Large primates aren't usually aggressive. Mountain gorillas (which were thought to be a myth until 1959) are pretty mellow if you keep your distance.

I mean, all wild animals are dangerous, but there are degrees. It's not as though we're talking about a tiger or a hippo.

That said, I'm worried about the frequency with which Sasquatch has sex with men and women. Worse than a dolphin in that respect.

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Originally Posted by Lemur

Large primates aren't usually aggressive. Mountain gorillas (which were thought to be a myth until 1959) are pretty mellow if you keep your distance.

I mean, all wild animals are dangerous, but there are degrees. It's not as though we're talking about a tiger or a hippo.

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I totally agree, "if" they exist, one thing that is practically certain is that they are not a threat like some other large animals; african hippos as you mention reportably being the worst of the bunch.

In BC (especially up north) the most dangerous animal around is the moose. Kinda funny because much like hippos they look so silly but I've heard that moose can get down right homicidal sometimes + once they get you down on the deck they'll stomp you for 15 minutes even after you are dead.

Conversely Sasquatch, if they exist, are probably more like cougars, just really shy and seldom encountered.

...Mind you, to go along with the multitude of aircraft that have been lost, to date, over 100 woodsman, prospectors, timber crusers, and various tradesman have disappeared in the BC wilderness without a trace; so who knows what happened to them...

I'm going to echo Kurando's sentiment of a possible Sasquatch existence, not that I'm convinced of it but if you've never been to the NW Pacific you have no idea how thick and concealing the foliage can be. I recently had a conversation with my cousin who lives like twenty minutes from Seattle, and through our discussion we got talking about one of her neighbors who had flown off the road into a thicket. This road happens to be CONSTANTLY busy if you've ever driven the Maple Valley 169, after about six hours of her missing, and him not able to get ahold of her, he became concerned and notified the Police. Apparently the last conversation he had with her was while she was driving home, on that road, so thats where the search began. After about six days of looking through a ten mile stretch of the road, they found her barely alive, and several of the search crew had said they came within maybe forty feet of the vehicle several times without spotting it throughout their search (Using relatively new Search and Rescue Tech, as well as Blood Hounds... The frequent rain tends to wash away a lot of smell. Now if this can happen in the middle of a fairly well developed Urban area, imagine a similar place with similar foliage density, located in an area tens of thousands of times bigger, with faaaaaaar less people per square mile, and you might get an idea why evidence is few and far between, and the mythos continues.

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...Mind you, to go along with the multitude of aircraft that have been lost, to date, over 100 woodsman, prospectors, timber crusers, and various tradesman have disappeared in the BC wilderness without a trace; so who knows what happened to them...

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Hmm... They must have been hit by falling aeroplanes. :thinking:

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Originally Posted by Lemur

So, one of the hiker guys grabs one of his lady friends by the hand and pulls her toward Bigfoot. He coaxes her into making contact with the beast. Demurely, she approaches and holds out her delicate hand. Bigfoot sniffs her politely, then …

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Eugh. You actually had me reading that down to the last period, then imagining what happens next. Lemur, you're a horrid man-stud.

Btw, what're you wearing? ~:flirt:

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Originally Posted by Wakizashi

I'm going to echo Kurando's sentiment of a possible Sasquatch existence, not that I'm convinced of it but if you've never been to the NW Pacific you have no idea how thick and concealing the foliage can be. I recently had a conversation with my cousin who lives like twenty minutes from Seattle, and through our discussion we got talking about one of her neighbors who had flown off the road into a thicket. This road happens to be CONSTANTLY busy if you've ever driven the Maple Valley 169, after about six hours of her missing, and him not able to get ahold of her, he became concerned and notified the Police. Apparently the last conversation he had with her was while she was driving home, on that road, so thats where the search began. After about six days of looking through a ten mile stretch of the road, they found her barely alive, and several of the search crew had said they came within maybe forty feet of the vehicle several times without spotting it throughout their search (Using relatively new Search and Rescue Tech, as well as Blood Hounds... The frequent rain tends to wash away a lot of smell. Now if this can happen in the middle of a fairly well developed Urban area, imagine a similar place with similar foliage density, located in an area tens of thousands of times bigger, with faaaaaaar less people per square mile, and you might get an idea why evidence is few and far between, and the mythos continues.

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To give those folks outside the Northwest a picture:
https://img40.imageshack.us/img40/92...hingtonmap.jpg

That blue line between points A & B is the highway Wakizashi spoke of. Note how it's close to civilization, and note the huge amounts of land far from any big cities and covered in thick forest.

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And that's just in the states! The BC coast is even crazier, with less people too.

So, on one hand, you say it's a cute monkey that doesn't want to harm anybody like a gorilla, and on the other hand you think of Bigfoot when you smell rotten flesh and run away. That doesn't make sense.

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So, on one hand, you say it's a cute monkey that doesn't want to harm anybody like a gorilla, and on the other hand you think of Bigfoot when you smell rotten flesh and run away. That doesn't make sense.

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Well, technically I thought of dead seals when I smelled whatever it was, I never thought about a Sasquatch until I heard the thing call out, but I see what you mean. It was defintiely spooky.

It's the idea of the unknown which is scary I guess, but even though there is some evidence that these creatures might actually exist there is virtually no evidence whatsoever that they might be dangerous.

...If I could just keep that in mind I would be happy to see one, but I highly doubt I'll ever get the chance. Until then, I think it was Fragony who said eariler that campfire stories are much more fun because such mysteries. True dat.

Why are you worrying about something that may or may not exist. If I were you I would be worrying about those mooses...

I'm glad I live safe over here in Australia where we don't have any dangerous animals :tongue: :laugh4: