I find them actually pretty fun especially since they are the only faction that actually makes money in the beginning. They're like easier than playing as the Romani :egypt:
Plus, their elite phalanxes look pretty cool
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I find them actually pretty fun especially since they are the only faction that actually makes money in the beginning. They're like easier than playing as the Romani :egypt:
Plus, their elite phalanxes look pretty cool
Because they regularly win against the AS and become the Yellow Fever, aka Yellow Plague or Yellow Death.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kevin
Yes. They're fun to play as, but when put in the hands of the AI, they become the scum of the earth: elite spammers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Centurio Nixalsverdrus
Because they make me cheat the AS money every few turns
come to think of it, why don't we just modify the script to give the AS a special 'anti yellow-plague' financial boost?
cause the AS is supposed to collapse.
Yes or other option will be a kingdom of Judia? No?
No, at least I didn't hate Ptolemaioi..... Actually they are the funniest faction because I once found their family are filled with Iudaios.... :laugh4: No other factions could do that........
But although they are elite spammers..... they didn't pose much threat.....
I have no idea what you're talking about:dizzy2:Quote:
Originally Posted by Knight of Heaven
Iudaios? What's that?Quote:
Originally Posted by Cute Wolf
it means jewish i think.
no one likes the ptolemaioi because their founder was a snivelling ratbag who stole alexanders corpse and brought it to egypt.
they live in a desert.
they mate with their sisters.
they were historically weak after the first few rulers.
they have bad units.
they are not interesting.
the egyptians werent conquerors or warriors, they were farmers.
the constant yellow colour is sickening to the eyes.
they shouldve been the second diadoch to have been conquered dammit, i hate it how they outlasted all others.
their name is confusing to prnounce.
https://img7.imageshack.us/img7/205/daaaamn.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by fleaza
:inquisitive:...a..a..alright then....:inquisitive:
Seriously, you gotta cut out the things like calling them (...). Not respectful at all, and plus some of the rest of what you said isn't respectful to those who like them or the modders who created the faction.Quote:
Originally Posted by fleaza
I like the Ptolemai, especially their Galatians.
i lol'd
i never really encounter them , but the yellow death is annoying to see , even when you are playing as the casse.
The players like the challenges and the Ptolies offer little about that. You start with a good position, good economy, good army, your only enemy is a collapsing AS in the first 50 years, so yeah, maybe that's why.
It has more to do with the AI Ptollies.
In most of my campaigns they don't become the Yellow Fever. They usually lose Anatolia to AS, Makedonia, Pontos or KH then they reach Seleukeia and Babylon and stop there. Eventually they end up battling the Carthagians, who are quite equal with them by there. So I don't really have experience with them as "the superpower".Quote:
Originally Posted by gamegeek2
Hey, mane! We all have our turn-ons...Quote:
Originally Posted by fleaza
Wow. You're a lucky kid. Have you seen any of the screenshots scattered across the EB Forums? Yellow death from Cyrene to India, from Nubia to the Crimean Peninsula.Quote:
Originally Posted by Apaz
Ptolemaioi are obliterating AS in my campaigns, not comforting when you have to conquer half of their lands for Victory Conditions.
I thought Rome was hated the most.
as Player:
1. they are easy
1. b : theyonly have one "direct" enemy (the AS) and two far away possible enemies (Saba and Kart hadast) of which one is Saba ;)
2. They have almost the same roster as the AS(+ their Celtic friends)
2b. they lack the really cool units of the AS :(
3. they live in the desert(and are not a HA faction^^)
4.They are Yellow
as AI opponent
1. they often become a elite spamming superpower(tho they always loose to AS in my campaigns)
2. they live in the desert
3. They are Yellow
Seconded - this is the reason I try to kill of the ptolies as soon as possible while playing as any Diadochi faction:skull:Quote:
Originally Posted by fleaza
I don't think thats the reason. They have all there centers around the nile so they have a nice economy (one worth taking).Quote:
Originally Posted by fleaza
Seconded, seconded and seconded:yes:Quote:
Originally Posted by fleaza
Well not as interresting as the others, but still noteworthy to conquer them.Quote:
Originally Posted by fleaza
Most of the ruling Elite and the warriors the Ptolies fielded were primarly of Hellene, Galatian or foreign descent and considered foreigners to Egypt (no wonder the locals hated them so much).Quote:
Originally Posted by fleaza
Especially is such a size they would become if you leave them unchecked:whip:Quote:
Originally Posted by fleaza
I think the Arche Seleukeia could have been a worthy heir to Alexander but besides them the Ptolies were closest to being "the strongest".... for a while.Quote:
Originally Posted by fleaza
I think you can get used to it, but there is an easier solution -Quote:
Originally Posted by fleaza
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
I'm in 237 bc now on my KH save. the Ptolemaioi are doing their best to obliterate the AS and all things around it, and has spammed countless stacks of quality units to siege me at Rhodos.
I feed the AS and the sabyn with mnai to bring some balance, but the stupid AS just spam stacks of merc to take baktria while losing all of their western provinces.
I'm thinking about a punitive expedition to sack alexandria and memphis, and thereby damage their economy. Trusted ally my ass.
I prefer Antigonids, but first 3 Ptolemies are another of my favourite Successors, they were good and strong kings.Quote:
no one likes the ptolemaioi because their founder was a snivelling ratbag who stole alexanders corpse and brought it to egypt.
I like deserts and desert people, but I don't consider Ptolemies desert people, Saba and Numidians are.Quote:
they live in a desert
yes, but your warrior class are Greeks, Makedonians and Galatians, so you can have Egyptians farming and making money for your expansions with these three nations in armiesQuote:
the egyptians werent conquerors or warriors, they were farmers
What's wrong with yellow color???Quote:
They are Yellow
Actually, in the beginnig Egypt was the most stable successor kingdom, Egyptians hated Persians, so they adored Alexander who freed them and they accepted Makedonian rule, yes they were farmers and so they were happy when they didn't have to be in army and their rulers were tolerant to their culture and religion. Unlike Seleucid empire, where Persians who were defeated and conquered by Alexandros didn't accept Makedonian rule. Revolts in Egypt started as a consequence to later weak kings. So in 272 BC they are on a good starting position to become great empire if a wise and strong king (the player) controls them.
Yeah maybe, in my two top priority campaigns they are forced to retreat settlement by settlement.Quote:
Originally Posted by Megas Methuselah
In the Makedonia one, they are losing ground against Karthadast and KH, while they are also at war with Saba and AS:
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
In the Luso one, they started the campaign good, took Assyria and such, but it turned sad around 250 BC. They lost Anatolia to AS and currently losing their ground on the Levant. They are at war with a strong Saba. Though their war with the Karthadast ended with peace, because I invaded Morocco and Algeria.
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
It's not so much playing as them that people hate, but the playing against them, due to their tendency to conquer Syria and become an elite-stack spamming powerhouse.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kevin
Ptolemy just happened to be the one of the diadochi who was succesful, I'd think everyone wanted to claim Alexander's body as a justification of their reign and/or right to become the master of the hellenistic world.Quote:
Originally Posted by fleaza
They do not live in a desert, they live surrounded by a desert (the Nile valley is, after all, one of the most fertile patches of land on Earth).
Can't say I agree with their decision, but it was a part of their attempt to appear as Pharaohs of old to appease the native Egyptians. Think we all know how well that worked out...
All the Diadochi states waned in power after their initial rulers, usually due to a combination of constant warfare between themselves, increasing external pressure and internal instability.
They do not have bad units; they don't have as strong units as the other Diadochi do - however, they're not "bad" (Klerouchon Agema, Galatikoi Kleruchoi, Hetairoi, etc.).
They are not interesting to you. Personally I find them quite an interesting bunch of inbreds (think Habsburgs).
The Egyptians were primarily farmers, yes, and Ptolemaic warriors are primarily Makedonian, Greek and Galatian. However, even the ancient Egyptians conquered lands from Sudan to Iraq and Libya.
It's a tough world, sometimes the snake outlasts the lion.
Ptolemy is pronounced 'tɒləmi.
:egypt:
(I'm not even a fan of the Ptolemies, for the sake of record)
well its my opinion. im sure they wont actually mind. if they went around digging their nose into everyone who didnt respect them theyd get nothing done.Quote:
Originally Posted by kekailoa
i find playing against them the most rewarding aspects to RTW. in every campaign near the mediterannian sea i ship my units over there to sack alexandria and memphis. to cripple them. conquering egypt is the most rewarding aspect to the game as well because its such a population booster. every 20 turns you conquer alexandria/memphis and enslave it. gives you around 20000 extra population which rocks. you can do the same to carthage but carthage isnt such a destructive blitzer as the ptolemies so you dont need to keep them in check.
btw the gay names thing was a joke.
oh and they have bad temples. none of their gods appeal to me. makedons have herakles and zeus. seleukids have seleukos himself! ptolemies have...serapis.
i admit that ptolemy himself was a brilliant successor. except for the fact that seleukos ruled the gretest amount of land, ptolemy was the most succesful diadoch.
I don't really hate them either. I don't find them too interesting to play, but they're always fun to crush (and I've never had to deal with the Yellow Death either). I also like yellow (not their sand yellow, more like Golden Yellow, but still).
Another irrational dislike fed by favourable circumstances for the AI.
i hate them and the seleucids equally much, coz in my camapaings they never fight, and instead go after me -.- (pontus or armenia mostly) even when they could gain a hell alot more and easier from the other part. never actually seen them expand that much, even when i'm not nearby..
Well, no, we wouldn't get much done. That doesn't mean we're cool with people calling things "gay". Please refrain from it on this board.Quote:
Originally Posted by fleaza
Well, let's see what my English dictionary has to say about the matter:
Gay:
1. having or showing a merry, lively mood: gay spirits; gay music.
2. bright or showy: gay colors; gay ornaments.
Surely, both definitions can apply to the Ptolemaioi?
I certainly would be in a merry and lively mood if I kicked the Arche Seleukia around like it's nobody's business and have more money then I know what to do with.
And those yellow colours of theirs, if that's not bright and showy I don't know what is...
(Sorry, I just can't resist dumb jokes like that:smiley2:)
Anyway:
In my experience, as long as the Arche's eastern front is stable enough so that they don't have to send a lot of resource that way; they can do a good job of halting the Ptolemaioi's advance to the north. Certainly long enough for the Saba and Carthaginians to start harassing them from the east and west, effectivly stopping the Ptolemaioi and force them on the defensive.
Only problem is that on campaign difficulties of hard or very-hard the Ptolemaioi's main target - Arche Seleukia -tends to switch to 'Rahr! Player! Smash!'-mode and starts to mindlessly attack you if you're a neighbouring faction, allowing the Ptolemaioi to strike in the Arche's soft underbelly early in the game, which is is not something the AI can deal with.
Usually though, I am able to use force-diplomacy to keep the Arche's east stable and keep them focussed on their west long enough (roughly 10-20 years) to allow the Arche's AI to build up a decent infrastructure, at which point they don't need help anymore and can actually defend themselves against the dreaded yellow fever.
Honestly though, if your criteria for hating a faction is that the AI will form a superpower 9 out 10 times, then why not hate the Sweboz of the Lusotanna too?
Because the most guys who are familiar with RTW's "The Mummy's return"-egyptians hates, by default, any faction used to represent Egypt during the timespan of 272BC and 0AD.
I think the Ptolemaioi are real fun to play with and a nice addition of units. I see it hard to hate a faction in any way perhaps dislike playing with some factions since people have diffrent styles. Perhaps a harsh word but if anyone seriously hate a faction in a computer game perhaps a break from the game is needed.
I love the Ptolemies. They're easy to play because Ptolemy Soter was a freakin' genius. People who think they or their units are boring can go back to Vanilla. All I can think of when someone calls the Ptolemies boring is a frat boy shouting, "BUT THEY DON'T HAVE PHAROAH'S BOWMEN ANYMORE, BRO. I MIGHT AS WELL BE THE GREEKS IF THE EGYPT ISN'T GONNA HAVE GOOD UNITS." In conclusion, incest is awesome. :laugh4:
Who hates them?
I love them watching they kick ass of AS while I kick AS from east.
I love them sending me lots of elite full stacks so as to make my game interesting after I send AS to the ashes of history,
I love them so much when I am playing on the western part of the map whose right sight shining like gold so use sunglasses :cool4:
I love them cursing a spell on my army that was paralyzed in the tile of death booooohhh :laugh4:
I love them so much if I need money they have lots of treasures so I can sack egypt whenever I need money they rebuild it easily :yes:
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who says their units sucks, you need see an optician:dizzy2:.
BTW Ptolemaoi was not for play just to save player going bankrupt thanks to huge gains of sacking campaigns.
The Sweboz' infamous southern expansion was effectively nerfed by the scripted defenders. The Lusotana take a while to seize Hispania. The Ptollies seize control of most of the AS plus Aigyptos. Which seems the strongest?Quote:
Originally Posted by Raygereio
I've just removed most of the gay references. Please drop the subject and go back to discussing the vices of the Ptolemeans.
Unfortunately, that way you end up with the Grey death. The two should be closely matched, but balancing them is hard since you need to play dozens of campaigns to see if one consistently beats the other.Quote:
Originally Posted by satalexton
Which will be quickly swallowed by either. Not to mention that it is extremely ahistorical, as Judea was at this point firmly under Ptolemean control, and even when independent wasn't remotely capable of expansionist action.Quote:
Originally Posted by Knight of Heaven
Judea, one of the tribes of Israel.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kevin
Just to be fair: pre EB 1.0, the Yellow Death played no role at all, everybody was afraid of the Grey Death instead. :smash: :skull:
And I must add that EB 1.2 is the best balanced EB of all times. :2thumbsup: Sweboz east expansion, Roman north expansion, Karthadast sand wars, KH eating up father Makedonia, Baktria overrunning the steppe - all this has been successfully adressed. What remains is just the Yellow / Grey balance and Hayasdans conquering the Sarmatians.
Yeah, Hayasdan AI likes to "roleplay" steppe factions instead of going south.Quote:
Originally Posted by Centurio Nixalsverdrus
No reason to hate Ptolemaoi now. In 1.2 the AS usually beats them and destroys everything in Asia except may be some Saka or Bactria cities on the far east.
P.S. As was rightly mentioned, Hayasdan are always chasing ghosts in the steppes instead of making things more interesting for the AS and friends.
i like them and play them. i mean which successor has not elite (son not that expensive) heavy sword infantry???
only annoying thing are their "special" units such as machimoi or the klerouchon agema who have a small AoR.
BTW: why cant i recruit hetairoi in antiocheia?
EDIT:according to recruitment viewer i should be able to
EDIT2: thx, i now found out that i just had luck and conquered seleukeia with an lvl5MIC, so thats why i can recruit those guys there.
Hetairoi need a lvl5 factional MIC, but you can only build it with a lvl1 gov.Quote:
Originally Posted by GenosseGeneral
I agree that they're seriously irritating a lot of the time, especially after they take all of Asia Minor and begin to expand into Europe. When you're playing the Getai, it's not a fun thing to face endless stacks of elite phalanxes with archers galore....Quote:
Originally Posted by fleaza
To a certain point, they aren't as exciting as other factions, but still, they're fun with the directions they can take and the limitless power one can really wield.
Sabaeans were most definately not desert people.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andronikos
Ptolemaios I Soter was one of the best friends of Alexandros. There were a few people who deserved his empire after he died; I count Ptolemaios as being one of them.
I don't like them because of their annoying colour and their potential big expansion. I also hate them because i remember the vanilla RTW's pharaoh's ridicolous units. And their uberoverpowered superarchers <.<
Also, i don't like ancient egyptians for no reason U_U
for some reason, I still remember those archers killing every single i threw at them on the walls.......
....in fact, thats the only thing i remember about vanilla, other than the ninjas of barbaropolis....
Well, it looks like most are complaining about AS -ptolemaic wars......... maybe we should script AS - Ptolies defenders on gaza area (Script if both are AI controlled, each get reinforcements when another are the city holder) so they become stalled.
In fact, sometimes AS dominates the area but of course the dominant percentage belongs to Ptolemy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cute Wolf
I have read that some historians claim, that Alexander wanted to be buried in Amonion in Siwa and it was Olympias who ordered his body to be transported to Makedonia.Quote:
Originally Posted by fleaza
Then Ptolemy had it nicked and buried it in Alexandria.
No.Quote:
Originally Posted by Knight of Heaven
Said kingdom is a road for bigger powers to travel through, in terms of significance for the period, it isn't justified...
I'll hear no arguments otherwise, as they are undoubtedly based in modern concerns...
I think it's because they would be the best possible ally in a campaign against IF diplomacy was better in RTW.
I really never play them because they are too easy.
The better balancing idea for the Ptolies would be raising the unrest levels everywhere in Egypt except the Delta region so that they would have to use more troops garrisoning, or restricting their recruitment refresh rate for elite Hellenistic units (I don't think it's possible in RTW), after all they could not field huge armies full of heavy Galatians and agema phalanxes, but that's to some extent true for any other Diadochi kingdom.
Kingdom of Judea is not an option, they were totally irrelevant on the political arena at that time, had no expansionist ambitions and were nothing more than a playground for big boys to play - first Egypt and Persia (or even Babylonia earlier), then Ptolies and the AS.
Considering that (iirc!) the Qarthadastim get increased unrest levels in Iberia, this could, and in my opinion, should be implemented to some degree.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marcus Ulpius
Not possible with the R:TW engine, but...Quote:
Originally Posted by Marcus Ulpius
... will be possible with the M2:TW engine, and will be a feature of EBII (for every faction).Quote:
Originally Posted by Marcus Ulpius
I agree, the Judeans were not in a position to form a strong nation with expansionist goals - so, when Judea rebels, it should just rebel, imho, not form a one province nation only to be gobbled up by the larger powers the next turn (all the while using one of those very, very precious faction slots).Quote:
Originally Posted by Marcus Ulpius
I think the Ptolemaioi have a excellent unit roster it's just very limited map wise so you have to ship units everywhere which gets to be a pain.
As for why they're so hated its definitely their AI behavior, nobody likes fighting those horrificly powerful empires they tend to produce. The AS used to be just as hated for the same reason in older EB versions.
Gabeed, I distinctly remember you annihilating my roman army online with your evil, inbred killer army. Its 2am here, 7 months later and I am still too scared of having nightmares about your win for me to go to sleep.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gabeed
I vaguely remember reading somewhere, maybe in EB text, that it is rumoured that Ptolemy Soter could have been an illegitimate older brother of Alexandros. An sources anyone can quote that can confirm what my coke addled brain is thinking?
It came up in the "Was Alexander poisoned?" thread, and I recall reading about it in some old historical fiction, so it's definitely an existing theory.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blxz
Yessssssssss.Quote:
Originally Posted by The General
Oh, and anyone who says that the Ptolemaioi suck, clearly underestimate how difficult it is to seize Egypt and Syria in what amounts to be a millitary coup. Also, considering they are responsible for allegedly one of the most beautiful women in history, I wouldn't say that's bad going. :yes:
Subotan, I recommend you take a look at coins from the time before you say she is one of the most beautiful women in history, from the coins we can see she was actually quite ugly by modern standards.
It's just that the Romans liked that sort of thing... *shudders*
She was a queen. That is enough for most men (or boys, in this case).Quote:
Originally Posted by Mallios
Kleopatra was very beautiful, as this ancient painting proves. Also you can see here that inbreeding already started to spread within the Galatian Klerouchoi, severly hempering Egypt's ability to withstand the Roman threat:
https://img37.imageshack.us/img37/16...opatracove.jpg
Ah yes, but analyzing the painting, it seems in the Galatians case to have inadvertantly created unstoppable super soldiers:clown:Quote:
Originally Posted by Centurio Nixalsverdrus
Modern standards? I'm glad to know that I can rely on modern society to help me with who I find attractive, rather than personal judgement. :laugh4:Quote:
Originally Posted by Mallios
Besides, don't all the sources say that it was her charm that was beautiful, rather than her appearance?
Well, there was only one indomitable village free from Roman control. What do you expect?Quote:
Originally Posted by Centurio Nixalsverdrus
judging a persons looks on a cartoon that is extremely inaccurate historically isnt very smart imo.
and saying ptolemy deserved alexanders kingdom...if alexander was assassinated it was almost certainly ptolemy who had a part in it. he was head of security you see.
i like to conquer alexandria not start with it. also, i dont like the starting positions. israel is so vulnerable at the begining and asia minor is even more so.
i usually abandon those positions and consolidate north africa....then it's a matter of throwing out keltoi, thorakitai and phalanx until the kardonechoi comes knocking.....
I love sexy inbred people. I only watch the movie deliverance for the duelling banjo's and that sweet sexy inbred kid. (who sadly I might add is not inbred and actually looks that way natuarally. AND can't play the banjo, someone else is doing the old reach-around).Quote:
Originally Posted by Subotan
"Squeal like a piggy boy"
"Wheeeeeeee"
Ahh, I get off to this stuff.:wall:
EDIT: god damn it. I had this big nicely edited extra stuff that was very informative and interesting, then my browser froze. I redid it with a piece about how my current ptolemy campaign is going, then browser froze. instead now, you guys can just live with my inane crap about piggies and banjo's.
Supposedly Ptolemaic Egypt was THE sweetest diadoch kingdom to rule though...
Cohesive,wealthy and with secured borders from three sides ... not only that but the Ptolemaic rule was highly bureaucratical and well organised...
I don't hate the Ptolemaioi, I hate no faction.:beam:
And I hear people about hating them because they become too strong. Well people, that is the reason I am such a blitzer in most peoples eyes. A lot of people keep telling me that blitz ruins EB, well I dont know what you prefer, fighting most factions of the game because AI has not expanded so much yet. Or streams of fullstacks from the same faction over and over again....
~Fluvius
I don't hate, or even dislike any other faction except for Arche Seleukeia on steroids.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fluvius Camillus
Few things are as rewarding as a game you've been playing for two-three days ruined by an attack by a maniacal Arche Seleukeia that is kicking the doodoo out of everyone (Ptolemaioi, Pahlava, Saka Rauka, Eleutheroi border provinces) and which insists on adding your name to its list of soon-to-be-vanquished foes. :skull:
Getting attacked by Ptolemies is something you can anticipate and usually, deal with. Unless you're playing as Hayasdan, it's quite likely you're going to meet them only on one relatively narrow front (the Qarthadastim in Africa, Baktria/Pahlava in Assyria/Mesopotamia, European factions in southern Anatolia) and you can just keep pushing. Trying to defeat Arche Seleukeia... :dizzy2:
If only there was something close to the system in EUs, and the occasional period of peace. :wall: I admit I do not have the endurance to fight against an endless stream of stacks all the way to friggin' India like in the case of my recently-abandoned Makedonia game.
Honestly, I don't know why anyone would hate to fight the ptolemioi-what is more awesome than an underdog, but wisly led, faction vs an elite spamming empire? it has a Star Wars quality to it. I had a boat load of fun fighting them as saba; I haven't had a more challenging, dangerous, and brutal fight in the various TW engines, save my lakhmid campaigns against the sassanid traitors in IJ.*
*ok, so I tend to play arabian ones first-y'got a problem? and yes, the sassanids usually start the trouble :inquisitive::clown:
Whats IJ? I am on the look out for new mods. Any good?
Imperium julianorum: its a submod of IBFD. you can find it at the twcenter under INVASIO BARBARORVM: SOMNIVM APOSTATAE IVLIANI. the latest version is IJ3 (still a beta though). and yes, its very, very good-I helped research one of the factions myself (take a guess). its no EB, but it sure as heck comes close.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blxz
anyways, on topic: I still don't see ar eal reson why the ptolemioi are to be hated as an IA faction; they are indeed a worthy challenge/adversary.
and darn, this drew brees guy is driving me up the wall-what the heck is with him?:inquisitive:
...And judging an entire dynasty by how they act (Mostly ahistorically I may add) in a computer game is even less smart.Quote:
Originally Posted by fleaza
I didn't say that. I said that the fact that they were able to acquire and hold onto that amount of land for such a long time deserves respect and admiration.Quote:
Originally Posted by fleaza
...Which makes them a challenge, and is essentially why a lot of people love to play as them.Quote:
Originally Posted by fleaza
Way ahead of you. I spent an hour writing a post on some other forum, but my computer crashed when I was writing the second to last sentence. :furious3:Quote:
Originally Posted by Blxz
Tall poppy syndrome.
The ptolmies have a good chance of being strong and powerful. People like the underdog and hate people, countries or abstract ideas that become too strong or dominant.
Same reason I like the Hai, people hate Rome and america is the most disliked country globally.
Its not that I appreciate the impossible to pronounce names of units, that Rome is evil and that america is populated by generally annoying people who get worse when they are in groups of 2 or more. Its all about that little urge in us to hope that the underdog David will triumph over the giant goliath.
Tall poppy syndrome people. Thats what it equates to in the end.
I can understand people's dislike of the Yellow Fever, as it is a phenomenon prominent in many strategy games, but when that dislike is carried over into reality, and besmirches and insults the reputations and achievements of real people, it has in my opinion gone too far.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blxz
How can anybody really think that somebody was judged by the cartoon I posted? :dizzy2:
I was going to mention that, but I thought it so obvious as not to bother :laugh4:Quote:
Originally Posted by Centurio Nixalsverdrus
Why are we talking about Cleopatra? :inquisitive:
Why? simple : they use pikes and sarrissa, because they wear clothes and armours!... nothing equals sweboz's clubs and axes when they run to the battle with THEIR sarrissas in the fresh air! hahahahaha
Behold the return of the Swebozez!
cheers to all of you guys! I shall bring my worgozez back on the battlefield in october!
oh, and another reason... That can apply to Sabba as well : The earth is made of 80 percent of water. They choose to live in the desert... O_0
-No more comment needed...-
P.s. As some people on the forum tend to get offended pretty fast, I feel the obligation to remind that this comment is intended to be a joke and give some smile and thus is not to be considered as a factor to start another debat with somebody who could be over proud of his favourite faction : Ptolemaioi
If somebody is offended and gives any reason to proove me that the Ptolemaioi are the worthiest nation, everything I answer him should and will be considered as IRONIC. (^_^)
(Hey, I could almost become lawyer with more warning like that! hahahahahahaha!)
Cheers to all!
The Saba' didn't live in the desert. And they had more than enough water thanks to a great dam they built themselves.:egypt:Quote:
Originally Posted by Duguntz