War between France and Belgium inevitable?

All depends on the question : How jealous is the French President Nicolas Sarkozy?


Belgian minister threatens diplomatic row after claiming there was 'something between' him and Carla Bruni

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Charles Michel, the 33-year-old development cooperation secretary, told Brussels journalists that passions were stirred when he met the 41-year-old First Lady during a conference about Aids research in New York last month.

'At one moment during the meeting, our eyes crossed,' said Mr Michel. 'And I ought to say that I personally felt that there was something between us.'

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Belgium's La Libre was among those who agreed that Mr Michel had gone too far, writing in reference to three-times-married Mr Sarkozy: 'We know someone at the Elysee who won't be sleeping soundly anymore.'

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Mister Michel rapidly claimed afterwards that it was all a joke, but when there's smoke...

Belgian minister withdraws Carla Bruni "boast"

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Concerned that the joke of a sudden all-consuming passion between the balding minister and the French president's stunning former supermodel wife, Mr Michel released a statement from his office in Brussels.

"It was just a joke by a member of the government, and nothing more. That goes without saying, but apparently it's better to say it," he said.

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Mister Sarkozy doesn't seem the type who will let an attempt to seduce his wife go unpunished...

https://i156.photobucket.com/albums/.../Sarkozy-2.jpg

Time to move to Australia, I guess...

Trust those Belgians to claim property rights on the first lady.

Unless Mrs Bruni has a thing for ugly Europeans, which may well be the case considering her current partner, I doubt this is true.

It's a shame really seeming she deserves a real man, one who can stand above 5ft 6, doesn't wear stacks to appear taller or surround himself with small people to emphasise his less than average height and a man who doesn't airbrush away his spare tire on official holiday snaps.

And no, I'm not going purely of aesthetic appearances seeming quite frankly her husbands personality is fairly vile to. In general the women deserves something better than European politicians dribbling all over her..

I thought the existence of Belgium was a lie. :confused:

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Originally Posted by tibilicus

And no, I'm not going purely of aesthetic appearances seeming quite frankly her husbands personality is fairly vile to. In general the women deserves something better than European politicians dribbling all over her..

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You are forgetting something very important. Why does she put up with such an awful person?

Basically, she is as awful herself. She did it for attention, money and all shallow corrupt things, she is no angel.

There are twosides to every story and don't give women the benefit of the doubt and presumed angels, it really is not the case.

Sexist.

So, with the withdrawal of the comment has honor been satisfied? Or does the knave still have to choose between pistols & swords? Will it be on pay per view?

I say Nicoculas Sarcocuzy ought to demand satisfaction. This does not portray virility on his part. He's out of office unless he can prove himself worthy. If you can't rule the desires of your women, you can't rule a country.

It has been too long ago since the once great Flemish cities of Lille and Bruxelles have been brought under civilization. Time for us to add another one to our treasure, like pearls on a necklace.

I propose Gand be taken as satisfaction this time.

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Originally Posted by tibilicus

Unless Mrs Bruni has a thing for ugly Europeans, which may well be the case considering her current partner, I doubt this is true.

It's a shame really seeming she deserves a real man

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Mrs Bruni has let it slip in private that she got together with Sarko after he toured her around his command base, showing her this huge, nuclear powered, missile he commands.

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Originally Posted by Louis VI the Fat

Mrs Bruni has let it slip in private that she got together with Sarko after he toured her around his command base, showing her this huge, nuclear powered, missile he commands.

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So has he got round to parking his missile in her silo?

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Originally Posted by Louis VI the Fat

like pearls on a necklace.

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Heh heh heh yeah ye do

Rather bad manners I say.

If France wars with Belgium, Luxembourg will tip the balance. O, tiny Luxembourg, so long scorned by the great nations, your hour comes round at last! What rough beast slouches toward Grevenmacher to be born?

Luxembourg now has more Portuguese than Germans or French. If anything Luxembourg become the Portuguese Low Lands.

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Originally Posted by Jolt

Luxembourg now has more Portuguese than Germans or French. If anything Luxembourg become the Portuguese Low Lands.

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So does Paris, I think. Sheesh you people know how to breed.

Given France's war record since the loss of Napoleon, my moneys on Belgium.

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Originally Posted by Tratorix

Given France's war record since the loss of Napoleon, my moneys on Belgium.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMSTsb1iZxk#t=2m18s

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Originally Posted by Tratorix

Given France's war record since the loss of Napoleon, my moneys on Belgium.

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You mean winning a World War, conquering ourselves the world's second largest colonial empire, disbanding the Second German Reich after having had previously disposed of the first, disbanding that other German empire too - that of the Austrians, defeating the Russian and the Ottoman Empires, etc etc?

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Originally Posted by Louis VI the Fat

You mean winning a World War, conquering ourselves the world's second largest colonial empire, disbanding the Second German Reich after having previously disposed of the first, disbanding that other German empire too - that of the Austrians, defeating the Russian and the Ottoman Empires, etc etc?

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This guy.


It's a tough call for me. I love French fries and the fact that Belgium has a stand in every town is a giant plus

BUT Louis is in France and I don't think me an my Texans could do the whole four horsemen thing knowing hes tucked away and we may accidently hurt him

BUT Andres is in Belgium and he seems like a pretty good guy to.

I think I'll just stay put.

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Originally Posted by Louis VI the Fat

I say Nicoculas Sarcocuzy ought to demand satisfaction. This does not portray virility on his part. He's out of office unless he can prove himself worthy. If you can't rule the desires of your women, you can't rule a country.

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I'm sure that if he puts Jean on this job, his youthful eagerness and vitality will resolve this matter in quite satisfactional means.

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Originally Posted by Louis VI the Fat

You mean winning a World War, conquering ourselves the world's second largest colonial empire, disbanding the Second German Reich after having previously disposed of the first, disbanding that other German empire too - that of the Austrians, defeating the Russian and the Ottoman Empires, etc etc?

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Quite right. I've always been saying France is warmongering nation, always trying to bully those peaceful, honest, hard-working Germans.

My money is on France. After Belgians conquer Paris, Americans, Brits and Russian will come and liberate France and conquer Belgium :laugh4:

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Originally Posted by Sarmatian

Quite right. I've always been saying France is warmongering nation, always trying to bully those peaceful, honest, hard-working Germans.

My money is on France. After Belgians conquer Paris, Americans, Brits and Russian will come and liberate France and conquer Belgium :laugh4:

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Do we get to sink the French navy first though? We could justify by saying that we cannot allow it to fall into the hands of the Belgians.

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Originally Posted by Pannonian

Do we get to sink the French navy first though? We could justify by saying that we cannot allow it to fall into the hands of the Belgians.

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I don't see how much enjoyment we could derive from blowing this up:

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Do we get to sink the French navy first though? We could justify by saying that we cannot allow it to fall into the hands of the Belgians.

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Only after our army is done protecting Dunkirk while you run back to your country.

This whole history rewriting about France being a lame and surrendering nation is quite weird to be honest. France has been one of the most agressive European country (if not the most agressive country), and kicked everyone's ass at some point, even after Napoléon.
Did it exist before Dubya and his perfectly thought-out invasion of Irak? I'm honestly asking. I've neither heard it nor read it before France refused to follow Bush, while it appears to be an established fact nowadays.

As for the event itself, we have a case of
a - some guy trying to look cool and making himself look like a fool
b - Carla Bruni making fun of some guy, or God forgives us, hitting on him for real.

Both options are fairly plausible. I mean, after trying pop music singers and actors, she might be in a ugly-politicians mood.

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Originally Posted by Meneldil

As for the event itself, we have a case of
a - some guy trying to look cool and making himself look like a fool
b - Carla Bruni making fun of some guy, or God forgives us, hitting on him for real.

Both options are fairly plausible. I mean, after trying pop music singers and actors, she might be in a ugly-politicians mood.

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Considering her choice is between a man who wields nuclear power, and an ugly Walloon nobody, I'd say option A.

Not that this means we give up on our right to satisfaction: I say we give Nord-Pas-de-Calais to Belgium. That will in one stroke irritate and bankrupt the Flemings even more and improve both Wallonia and France.

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Originally Posted by Meneldil

This whole history rewriting about France being a lame and surrendering nation is quite weird to be honest. France has been one of the most agressive European country (if not the most agressive country), and kicked everyone's ass at some point, even after Napoléon.
Did it exist before Dubya and his perfectly thought-out invasion of Irak? I'm honestly asking. I've neither heard it nor read it before France refused to follow Bush, while it appears to be an established fact nowadays.

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The cheese-eating surrender monkeys bit has been around for a while now, it's not a new Bush43 thing. Not sure when it started, maybe it's an offshoot from Vietnam. Just remember that we Americans aren't very good at history and generally aren't aware of the price France paid for WWI.

Don’t bother. France has just to blow on the Dutch embers still smoking and Belgium doesn’t exist any more….

In case of war, if nobody makes the mistake to actually attack the US they will happily trade with both countries as they did before…
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Originally Posted by Meneldil

Only after our army is done protecting Dunkirk while you run back to your country.

This whole history rewriting about France being a lame and surrendering nation is quite weird to be honest. France has been one of the most agressive European country (if not the most agressive country), and kicked everyone's ass at some point, even after Napoléon.
Did it exist before Dubya and his perfectly thought-out invasion of Irak? I'm honestly asking. I've neither heard it nor read it before France refused to follow Bush, while it appears to be an established fact nowadays.

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Well, I had a beautiful, dense, wavy brown hair covering my scalp and now I brush my hair with a towel. What can I say, things change. Until you have another war with the Germans, kick their butt and regain your honour, you'll always be a "surrendering" nation in the eyes of the world.

Or can it be that it was only a joke? It seems that French these days lack a sense of humour, as evident in this row with the Belgians. For that you have to punished, you're sentenced to watch comedy tv shows and to make the punishment even harsher, they have to be British.

Monday - Black Adder
Tuesday - Men Behaving Badly
Wednesday - Only Fools and Horses
Thursday - Monty Python
Friday and weekends (now this is the real punishment) - 'Allo, 'Allo :laugh4:

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Originally Posted by Sarmatian

Well, I had a beautiful, dense, wavy brown hair covering my scalp and now I brush my hair with a towel. What can I say, things change. Until you have another war with the Germans, kick their butt and regain your honour, you'll always be a "surrendering" nation in the eyes of the world.

Or can it be that it was only a joke? It seems that French these days lack a sense of humour, as evident in this row with the Belgians. For that you have to punished, you're sentenced to watch comedy tv shows and to make the punishment even harsher, they have to be British.

Monday - Black Adder
Tuesday - Men Behaving Badly
Wednesday - Only Fools and Horses
Thursday - Monty Python
Friday and weekends (now this is the real punishment) - 'Allo, 'Allo :laugh4:

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There was a mini-series called Sleepers, where we get to see national stereotypes. Except that this has modern-day Britain as one of the stereotyped nations, as portrayed in a British comedy. There are 3 secret agencies competing to get hold of some Russian agents. The CIA are brash and work in luxurious conditions and have access to unlimited resources. The Soviets have rather lower budgets, but are able to make do and are professional and confident. The British have next to no budget and have to account for a packet of biscuits and a (plastic) cup of tea.

“Until you have another war with the Germans, kick their butt and regain your honour, you'll always be a "surrendering" nation in the eyes of the world”:
Such is the power of Media… Halas poor Yorrick:book:
And i think in the eyes of the world is a little bit exagerate:beam:

I don’t think France lost her honour being defeated by the Germans. GB was as well, and a lot of countries were.
France lost her honour in the Racist Petainist Laws, in the Collaboration, in Vichy government…
France kept her honour (for WW2) in 1940 when 90,000 courageous men who lost their lives in a absolute impossible fight, regained it in the hundred shots by death squads, in the hundred who protected the Jews, in the hundred who blow-up Germans trains and died in doing it…
WW1 is a French/UK victory and the heroism of the French Soldiers is not deniable. Why and how is the question to every person who put a foot in October or November in Mourmelon Training Camp…

Monday - Black Adder: See it… Not really ant-French, more anti-British establishment. The last series, staged during the WW1 is hard.
Tuesday - Men Behaving Badly (don’t know this one)
Wednesday - Only Fools and Horses. Er, why? Except the very bad French from Delboy?
Thursday - Monty Python: Not really and in the Holly Grail, in fact, the scene with the French is a reminder about the French ruling England, long time ago (lacher la vache)
Friday and weekends (now this is the real punishment) - 'Allo, 'Allo: I did like the series. All countries took from it.

No. The real punishment is to watch Sharp. Every evening…:whip:
Or the new new recontitution of Azincourt... Again...:whip::whip::whip:

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Originally Posted by Brenus

“Until you have another war with the Germans, kick their butt and regain your honour, you'll always be a "surrendering" nation in the eyes of the world”:
Such is the power of Media… Halas poor Yorrick:book:
And i think in the eyes of the world is a little bit exagerate:beam:

I don’t think France lost her honour being defeated by the Germans. GB was as well, and a lot of countries were.

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It's arguable whether this country or that lost their honour in that war. However, it's undeniable that France lost bragging rights, which is the most important aspect of the Anglo-French rivalry. You won the right to brag when you conquered us in 1066, then there were some tos and fros in the Hundred Years war, until you expelled us from the continent. Then we slowly regained the right to shout over the French as we won the race to subjugate the most Johnny Foreigners. Then you got beat by the Germans and we...well, we did too, but we could sort of argue that we didn't. You need to find another war somewhere where we can compete again. Perhaps the Scots could declare independence, you could supply them with arms and money, and we could beat them down again like in the old days.

And we made the world talk about us, even though we lost the war. :juggle2:
We're the Paris Hilton among nations.

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Originally Posted by Brenus

And i think in the eyes of the world is a little bit exagerate:beam:

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The entire thing is exaggerated since it's a joke. It was a trap for Louis actually, but you and Meneldil got caught. Louis avoided it. Ahh, my arch nemesis on the org is becoming smarter. Meditate on this, I must.

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Originally Posted by Brenus

Monday - Black Adder: See it… Not really ant-French, more anti-British establishment. The last series, staged during the WW1 is hard.
Tuesday - Men Behaving Badly (don’t know this one)
Wednesday - Only Fools and Horses. Er, why? Except the very bad French from Delboy?
Thursday - Monty Python: Not really and in the Holly Grail, in fact, the scene with the French is a reminder about the French ruling England, long time ago (lacher la vache)
Friday and weekends (now this is the real punishment) - 'Allo, 'Allo: I did like the series. All countries took from it.

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The point was just that they're British, not because they're anti-French or something.

You liked 'Allo, 'Allo? Seriously? That was the worst British series ever to be translated into other languages...

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Originally Posted by Husar

And we made the world talk about us, even though we lost the war. :juggle2:
We're the Paris Hilton among nations.

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Are there any homemade videos of you beating the French?

Was that the one with the french resistance and the unattractive wife.. its not too bad imo....

I heard of the french surrendering thing before Iraq... I think its mainly based on WW2 (at least here in Britian) its slightly unfair though... I don't know if my fellow Brits think thier unprepared army could have held back the nazis in frances position...

If you were to blame anything for the quick defeat it would be the stupidity of thier command (or lack of foresight maybe, its always easy to look back) It is a bit of an overused joke IMDHO...

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Originally Posted by LittleGrizzly

Was that the one with the french resistance and the unattractive wife.. its not too bad imo....

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I've heard rumours of a badly shot home video called "Four Years in Paris", but I've not seen it myself. There's supposed to be this moustachioed bloke in it.

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Originally Posted by Sarmatian

The entire thing is exaggerated since it's a joke. It was a trap for Louis actually, but you and Meneldil got caught. Louis avoided it. Ahh, my arch nemesis on the org is becoming smarter. Meditate on this, I must.

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Louis got caught too, otherwise he wouldn't have started listing all the french victories and what not.

Though I find it annoying, I now know it's a joke (hopefully). Furthermore, it's not nearly as bad here as in some other forums I used to visit. I'm just a bit puzzled by how one of the top-3 most imperialistic and warmongering countries (with Britain and the US) turned into a land of surrendering war-hating hippies for the western public opinion. And it's not just the joke that puzzles me.

International newspapers are freaking out all over the world because Sarkozy acts like a bully (and an idiot) with Iran, while Obama is somehow trying to negociate. Basically, their point is "onoes, the imperialistic evil americans are not doing anything while the peace-loving french are acting tough".
Somehow, these media forgot that France is involved militarily pretty much everywhere in Africa and in a lot of other places, and that France was still pretty good at launching imperialistic military expeditions only a few decades ago, causing the ire of both the US and USSR.
And it's not only Bush-ists right wing media. Slate and the NYT are also falling for this.

Note that I overall support the "peace-loving french" idea actually. It's just that well, that not how things were, or are. The army still has a huge weight in french politics. Except that instead of invading countries and colonizing Africa and Indochina, they now blow up greenpeace boats, support dictators and spy on their own citizen (well they did that in the past too).

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Originally Posted by Husar

And we made the world talk about us, even though we lost the war. :juggle2:
We're the Paris Hilton among nations.

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I still identify more with my dear kraut friends and culture than my froggy friends, in terms of which possible side of the fence my family came from. Be kinda awkward if we end up finding out they were more French... :embarassed:

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Originally Posted by Meneldil

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Don't you ever, ever do that again. The instant I read this, I collapsed in spastic laughter for a solid 30 minutes.

How sad. Belgium has been replaced with Britain and Germany.

Poor ol' Andres must be crying that his country, the founding member of this thread, has fallen away into the history of this thread.

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Originally Posted by Jolt

How sad. Belgium has been replaced with Britain and Germany.

Poor ol' Andres must be crying that his country, the founding member of this thread, has fallen away into the history of this thread.

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Meh, they can have their contests of penis length comparisons or their "which country was most succesfull in slaughtering human beings throughout history" games , we have Belgian beer ~:cheers:

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Originally Posted by Andres

Meh, they can have their contests of penis length comparisons or their "which country was most succesfull in slaughtering human beings throughout history" games , we have Belgian beer ~:cheers:

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Andres, shouldn't there be two additional smaller mountains on your emblem, one on each side of the bigger mountain? Also, the fleur de lys should be white.

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Originally Posted by Pannonian

Andres, shouldn't there be two additional smaller mountains on your emblem, one on each side of the bigger mountain? Also, the fleur de lys should be white.

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According to Wiki, it's the shield from Rochefort; my character in a Throne Room PBM I'm currently participating in, is called "Thierry de Rochefort".

It has nothing do to with adoration for la douce France :bow:

I'm slow today :laugh4:

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Andres, shouldn't there be two additional smaller mountains on your emblem, one on each side of the bigger mountain? Also, the fleur de lys should be white.

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:laugh4::laugh4::laugh4::laugh4:
That would be a rather jaundiced view though.

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Originally Posted by Pannionian

You need to find another war somewhere where we can compete again.

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Ya'll should fight over Detroit again.

Ford Field Stadium holds 80,000 people. 40,000 per side, with Ms. Bruni (Mrs. Sarkozy) at mid-field, attired in a fetching negligee, tied to a post (ala Jean D'Arc, with the keys to the city tied 'round her neck.

Winner take all, and gets bragging rights the next hundred years.

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Originally Posted by KukriKhan

Ya'll should fight over Detroit again.

Ford Field Stadium holds 80,000 people. 40,000 per side, with Ms. Bruni (Mrs. Sarkozy) at mid-field, attired in a fetching negligee, tied to a post (ala Jean D'Arc, with the keys to the city tied 'round her neck.

Winner take all, and gets bragging rights the next hundred years.

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Got to be more entertaining than watching the Lions play...

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Originally Posted by KukriKhan

Ya'll should fight over Detroit again.
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Is this one of those things where the loser gets the "prize"? (I use that term VERY loosley here)

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Originally Posted by Strike For The South

It's a tough call for me. I love French fries and the fact that Belgium has a stand in every town is a giant plus.

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I once spend a summer night in Gant. Was eating on the Korenlei. A medieval canal, beautiful. So quaint and grand alike it moved me to tears. I ate a plate of frites with mussles, which was absolute bliss too. Then washed it down with several Belgian beers.

It was so good that it alone was worth half of France. :bigcry:

“Don't you ever, ever do that again. The instant I read this, I collapsed in spastic laughter for a solid 30 minutes.” :beam:
I will finish you off. The first German defeat in WW2 was against the French: Gembloux Hannut 12-15 May 1940.:laugh4::laugh4::laugh4:

I guess you aren't counting naval defeats. Not to side-track the discussion here, or even bash the French, but remember who the Germans had fought prior to the invasion of France. Poland, with a burning air force and a bad case of Sovi-etis, Denmark, which had no chance whatsoever, and Norway, marred by strange strategic judgements all around.

Actually, I recall there being several halts in the German advance through the low countries. The Dutch and Belgians didn't go down without a fight.

And now we're back on Belgium.