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This thread is a place where V&V players can talk about things out-of-character, or that don't belong anywhere else. This is also the place where prospective players should declare that they want to join the game.
Order for Receiving New Characters.
- Visorslash
- mini
- TheLastDays
- Cecil XIX
I am almost sure I'll join, so I have one question: Is Magnus still free? And if he is, what are his traits?
I'll post my permanent answer as soon as possible.
Magnus is taken, and at this time there is no space left for playing a character at the very start. However you're welcome to create your own character to participate Diet session, and given the size of the HRE and how we're probably going to lose several generals in the civil war it probably won't be too long before the game gives us another general.
Deal! I'll join with my made-up character and I'll try to take the next general.
Would you please PM me if another general is playable?
Of course.
Sorry about my relatively low level of activity lately. I'm in the middle of exams which finish on Friday. So expect a great detail of activity from me after that.
Not to worry, there hasn't been much to be active for during the past three or four days.
Come on guys, let's get some discussion in the Diet going! At least amongst the loyalists.
well it seems to me that the Kaiser has rather thrown down the gauntlet to the rebels, and that there's not a great deal for us loyalists to add at this point..
Time to ram through the important legislation then. :evilgrin:
Hey guys, since there's not any discussion happening the Diet proper (Hopefully you're all just plotting the course of the war behind the scenes), I thought I would introduce some Rules Changes for last-minute issue I though of.
The original rule was added to avoid any 'meta-gaming' where players can gain an advantage from being able to take the save either right when it's released or right before it expires. The proposed change would also have the same effect, but would allow PvP to proceed faster. Those players who think the second idea is preferable should, of course, second this Rules Change and then vote for it.Quote:
Rules Change 1.1
The sentance in rule 7.3, which reads "However, in keeping with the TW series, players in involved in war are given a set turn order, just as the factions are, in the order of their timezone. Players must take their turn in order thirty-six hours to do so." shall be replaced with the sentence "All players involved in a civil war must submit their orders to the GM directly, rather than taking the save and carrying them out personally. Players have fourty-eight hours per turn to do this."
Cecil, by arranging the turn order by time zone, did you want to make it possible to finish the turn in 24 hours? If so, I'm afraid the list is backwards.
If everyone's playing time is during the same time-of-day - the evening, for example - then the current list guarantees it'll take more than 24 hours. Once the first group, the Americans, get an evening, the next group to get an evening will be the Australians. But the Europeans are next on the list and already asleep, so the Australians will have to wait 24 hours. The list should go from high GMT offset to low.
Also, for subsequent turns, I'd recommend a random starting point for the list, so that the same players don't keep getting whatever advantages there are to playing early/late in the turn.
I see, that way the time it takes for one player to take the save is made up for by the fact that the next player is behind on the clock. I confess, I didn't think it through the way you've done. If there's no objections, I'll wait until Zim's time is up, then switch it around as flyd has suggested.
I'm having trouble with the save - don't know why. LTC works fine, but when I load the save it returns me to the main menu. So I'll let phonicsmonkey go ahead of me while I reinstall LTC Gold.
I've just noticed that my LTC version number is 1.04. Is that correct?
Edit: I've reinstalled LTC and I'm certain I've got LTC Gold. I have Kingdoms installed, and the game works fine, but it won't allow me to load either Password's or Zim's save.
:huh:
I think you need to patch Kingdoms to 1.5 before it will work. My LTC Gold is version 1.5
Ah, many thanks!Quote:
Originally Posted by phonicsmonkey
hope it works! by the way I won't be able to play the save for another six hours or so, so if you get it working before then go ahead and play. just post here to say you're taking it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ignoramus
It works, thanks.
I edited the descr_sm_factions, but there still is no family tree.
Maybe this has been said somewhere and I've missed it, but I'm not completely on the clear on who's on which side. From what I understand, the spawned generals are the papists, but I don't know which ones those would be. :shrug:
Edit: also, two questions: 1) as we have specific turns to take the save, I feel I have to ask this question: is it okay to ask someone else later in the line to move your character for you?
2) Has the war actually started, or do we have to make declarations first? Normally I understand we have to declare, but since this war was decided on already, I'm not sure.
The current situation is.
Salians:
Kaiser Heinrich
Prince Henry
Leopold
Otto von Kassel
Anti-Imperialists:
Magnus von Saxony
Andreas Hümmel
Theodericus der Bartige
Ortwinus Raspe
Vaclav Premyslid
Neutral:
Lothar Zirn
1) I won't allow this, as there is too much potential for abuse. However, you're worried about some RL problem affecting you in the game, PM me and I'll do what I can to make accomodations.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Celtic Viking
2) Since this is an event, both sides start out at war with each other. Specific declarations are not necessary.
Thanks to both of ye. I had been under the impression that Hummel was a loyalist, so this changes my strategic thoughts a little bit.
No, there's a file that you should download to fix that. You can get it here. You should install it to your landstoconquer/data folder.Quote:
Originally Posted by barcamartin
Ok, thanks mate! Done, and done. :)
Is it just me, or has Vaclav lost his name again? I've tried reinstalling the fix, but it's still gone.
Hmm, now that you mention it I've got the same problem. It's not affecting Magnus either, even though his name was also added from another faction. Is everyone experiencing this?Quote:
Originally Posted by The Celtic Viking
Gonna check right now
Done my checking and everything's fine until save n°6 (the one I posted).
The problem seems to derive from barcamartin's save as Save n°8 misses the names already and barcamartin reported he didn't see the names or got the wrong ones, apparently missing the modified namefile in his install... So to clear things up, the solution would be to re-do the moves from barcamartin's save onwards (7 through 10) and make sure in the future that any saved game has been played with the correct install.
As it is the first turn and I think the people who played after Barca weren't involved in any major moves, it shouldn't pose too big a problem...
Hmm, that still doesn't explain why there's no problem with Magnus, though. I'll redo the moves myself and see if that works.
Sooo, what do I need to do? ;O
Coordinating with your allies is always a good use of time. Right now should take a look at the map and try to predict where the best place is to send your army for a favorable outcome in battle. And of course, watch your desmense so you can tell what you need to do in order to keep it in good economic shape. Is that helpful?Quote:
Originally Posted by barcamartin
Using the right picture for the financial summary might be an idea. ~;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Cecil XIX
All right, I can't download the save for some reason. While I figure out how to handle that, Zim and Elite Ferret need to decide if they want to fight this online or not. If not, we'll have a poll as to whether it will be a "long" or "short" battle.
Does this work better?
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local...id=201&id=5273
I'd prefer to avoid the online mp battle given the major time zone difference and lag issues I always have trying to play TW MP battles. EF?
Haha, it is indeed, but I have been doing that. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Cecil XIX
I meant more on the sibject of my save not working, and me needing to change some files? Or is that taken care of? Also, my treasury. Is my starting army supposed to cost more than my starting treasury? :)
Well in regards to the first issue, if you've already downloaded the proper names file than things should be fine. As for the second, it is indeed. I've already given the HRE three times as much starting money as normal, and I didn't want to give any more. If it looks like it's going to be too much of a problem after the war is over, we'll deal with it then. The simple fact is the Reich really can't support ten generals this early in the game, although the Civil War should fix that.Quote:
Originally Posted by barcamartin
*Sees mercs* :shocked: *runz*Quote:
Originally Posted by Zim
:clown:
mwuhahahaQuote:
Originally Posted by Elite Ferret
Heil das Kaiser!
Can I count this as a victory? :beam:
I really hope for GeneralHankerchief the Kaiser is not a "das"...Quote:
Originally Posted by phonicsmonkey
At least he's not a "die". ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Lord of Lent
Der? (duh)Quote:
Originally Posted by barcamartin
Mein Deutsche = scheizer
By the way any of my loyalist chums can take my turn for me - I have no ability to play the game right now
Yes, "der Kaiser". Sadly, when the Kaiser becomes an indirect object (ie Hail to the Kaiser) the "der" then becomes a "dem", thus: "Heil dem Kaiser".Quote:
Originally Posted by phonicsmonkey
This is still better than if the same thing happens to a feminine word (ie the Empress) being and indirect object, where "die Kaiserin" then changes to "der Kaiserin" to make the confusion perfect.
Isn't German fun? :laugh4:
Gosh I'm glad German is my first language because I sure as hell wouldn't have picked it up otherwise. Much respect to those who do.
Now get on with the fighting already :furious3:
-deguerra
Haha, I read German for five years in school. Had to choose between German, French or Spanish. Man, all these "great" grammatic rules with thousands of exceptions! Gaaarh, so glad I don't have that subject anymore (even though I was pretty good at it, and got the topgrade in it every year).
Studied it for seven years and forgot all about it the day after I graduated... Never spoke a word of it since...
Sorry for the delay, I'll get to the save later tonight. Busy weekend...
Can we get some stories happening? I was going to post one on Andreas a while back, but I never did. I'll try and knock something up soon. Also, I think the saves cycle is taking a bit too long- it should be sped up a little.
Yes, I agree on both points. At the next Diet session I'll re-propose my Rules Change from last session, I think it would be preferable if orders were submitted and implemented simultaneously rather than one at a time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ignoramus
I love writing stories. In fact I have often wondered whether I write stories because I play these games, or whether I play the games as an excuse to write stories....RL is kicking my ass at the moment but I'll get up to speed on some story writing soon.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ignoramus
Where can I find the game rules ? I need to check some options but I can't find them in the threads anymore...
In the first post of the Imperial Diet & Rules thread.
Just a quick question, Cecil. When will the Great Saxon Rebellion event be over? When one side is completely defeated? When one side surrenders? When one side has no more settlements? Thanks.
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
Andreas Hummel and Vaclav Premyslid have sided with the Kaiser, so they have essentially agreed to peace. Ortwinus Raspe is captured, so if he does not agree to peace Prince Henry can simply execute him. That leaves Magnus von Saxony and Theodericus der Bartige.
Theodericus der Bartige has surrendered to the Kaiser, if I am not mistaken.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cecil XIX
Bartige has formally surrendered to me. I need to fire out a bunch of PMs and take the save, probably within a couple of hours.
That's correct, though I probably should've posted something about it here. I blame reality for getting in the way.
Ah, wasn't sure if it was public or not.
Hey guys, my laptop got stolen last night so my activity will be limited at best. I'll probably still be able to RP but most likely will not be able to take my turns. Therefore, I'm requesting that a fellow loyalist take the save for me, at least this time.
If I find that I can't continue playing, I'll drop out, but I only want to do that as a last resort.
That's terrible! I hope it's insured.
You've my sympathies as well GH, I hope you're able to make a quick recovery. And good show phonicsmonkey on the story and battle report, hopefully I'll be able to contribute myself by the end of the turn.
sorry to hear that, it's a terrible thing to have your machine stolen - I hope you end up with a much better one courtesy of the insurer and that your data losses are minimal.Quote:
Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief
And Cecil I'm glad you enjoyed them, I've been meaning to get started for a while...
Sad to hear that GH. Let us know how you go.
Who's turn is up?
I'll be away for a week. Will post Cecil my orders.
Thanks for the sympathy guys. :yes:
Conrad... Steffen eh? Hoboy, I should watch out for this one.
Does the Polish/Hungarian deal mean the Magyar have broken off their alliance with the Reich?
Cecil, I need your orders. :yes:
I'm not quite sure what's going on here with the halted progress, but if it's my turn you can just skip me and go directly to Tristan. I have nothing to change in the save.
Due to a trip to Malta and Rome lasting until the 30th of October, I will not be available to play my save. I ask that any loyalist please move my character to follow Heinrich and to send one of my companies (unit) to garrison Beslau. I will have internet at least for part of the trip, so if any special situation arises, I will be able to give more specific instructions to whomever decides to sub for me. Thank you for your comprehension. :bow:
Just an activity update, I ordered a new laptop a while ago, delivering it to my home address (as opposed to school) under the assumption that I'd pick it up when I went home for Fall Break this past weekend. Unfortunately, the weekend came and went, I went back to school, and the computer came in on Monday - so I missed it by one day. :wall: I do not trust my university's packaging system, so I'll pick it up next time I go home. This will most likely be around American Thanksgiving time, although there is a slight chance I'll come home earlier if the Phillies somehow get their act together and win the World Series.
So, worst case scenario, I'll be without access to the save for roughly one more month.
Tristan, I'll redo your moves when I take the save at the end of the turn. If you want you can send me a list of everything you did.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tristan de Castelreng
But from now on, any saves posted outside the proper thread will not be counted.
EDIT: Also, since TheFlax is unavailable, it would be best if one of his allies could makes his move for him by following the instructions he posted in this thread. If not I'll take care of it tomorrow, as I have work tonight.
I can move for Flaxy in about ten hours when I get home.
In light of the experience we have had with the war, I am reintroducing this Rules Change:
Quote:
Rules Change E1.1
The sentance in rule 7.3, which reads "However, in keeping with the TW series, players in involved in war are given a set turn order, just as the factions are, in the order of their timezone. Players must take their turn in order thirty-six hours to do so." shall be replaced with the sentence "All players involved in a civil war must submit their orders to the GM directly, rather than taking the save and carrying them out personally. Players have fourty-eight hours per turn to do this."
Oh, by the way, I'm able to do my saves again.
I'm back and able to participate again.
Cecil, you might want to make the poll public. Even I can't see who voted for who.
Indeed, it looks like I'll have to create a new thread. Unless someone can change the poll settings?Quote:
Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief
I can't make it public once the results are set to private. The only things I can do are meddle with the result count and add/alter choices.
In that case, would you mind deleting the first poll thread? I've posted a new one here.
Also,
I do hope he'll be back soon. Unfortunately, I do intend to kill off Prince Henry if that's the case. Also Tristan, I'll add your income from your sack of Thorn when the turn starts back up.Quote:
Originally Posted by phonicsmonkey