The Anteroom - community discussion thread

Hey all you Throne Roomies! I thought it was about time we had our own off-topic thread so we can gather and shoot the breeze about anything that takes our fancy.

There's enough of us hanging around these days to make a decent sized crowd for some banter. (just remember to follow the org rules or I may have to instagib you :clown:)

I might begin by introducing myself: I am phonicsmonkey and I am a hotseat addict.

Since 2007 I have been playing in and hosting hotseat games here in the Throne Room and now I have the privilege of moderating the forum too...I'm keen to grow the community and as most of you know I'm evangelical about the great TW experience to be gained from playing against other humans. I have more recently been enjoying the M2TW RPG V&V as well.

Despite having a personal limit of three hotseats at a time I currently find myself playing in six of them and being the admin for five....I just can't help myself it seems...

I know how that feels. :laugh4:

One OOC thread to rule them all? ~:cheers:

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Originally Posted by phonicsmonkey

Despite having a personal limit of three hotseats at a time I currently find myself playing in six of them and being the admin for five....I just can't help myself if seems...

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Zim, I'm surprised you didn't push for Norway in WotK2...

It was tempting....

Also, death to the Mongols.

Myth has been sending me screenshots of defeated Mongols in an attempt to psyche me out...

He's playing the Shah? I think I'd be up for some psychological warfare in that situation as well, probably starting with pictures of the Shah crying while huddled in a fetal position. :clown:

I must say that playing hotseats in SS6.3 and SS6.4 has made me want to play a SP campaign again...my last one was in BC 1.05 back in the old days before Commanders of the Faithful (2008 maybe?) so it will have been a really long time.

Think I might try a Turkish campaign and fight the Mongols myself...

Anyone else still playing SP M2TW?

I just started playing some ss 6.4 again myself. I came back to an old byzantine game where I am attempting to recreate the Roman empire. I am also doing a relocation game with Aragon in Italy.

On a side note, you invitation to chat here seemed almost ominous.
"Come have a chat with me..."
Oh no, I am going to be flayed alive for opposing the Khan!
:scared:

(probably just my paranoid nature feeding off a "...")

I think all in all I preferred to be the Caliph than the Khan - just a bit friendlier, know what I mean?

Although there aren't many left now who remember me as such...

Khan does have a long and, storied, history. Its good we have a strong player like yourself to really put the fear of Mongols in us all.
I look forward to my lands becoming a smoldering wasteland as armies clash in it. :)

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Originally Posted by Nightbringer

Its good we have a strong player like yourself to really put the fear of Mongols in us all.

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In the interests of full disclosure I should point out that I have never actually won a hotseat...:laugh4:

EDIT: some images from the first Wrath of the Khan game:

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those are awesome images.

As to you never having actually won. Not everyone can hope to be as good as I am Phonics.

:)

(or maybe there just haven't been many hotseats that actually ended)

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Originally Posted by Nightbringer

those are awesome images.

As to you never having actually won. Not everyone can hope to be as good as I am Phonics.

:)

(or maybe there just haven't been many hotseats that actually ended)

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It was quite the epic campaign - ask Silver about it...I confess I have been on the winning side in most games, at least the ones that finished.

Britannia and CotF, DoW...I straight up lost the LotE game after rushing into an early lead. Quirl totally kerbstomped me with his Qara-Suu....still gives me nightmares to think of it...

Obviously lost the WotK game - Mongols thrashed us in the end...

Don't like to talk about WWC these days....and Dual Alliances is going quite well although Thanatos or Triforce are likelier winners than I.

DA is an interesting game. I thought I was a goner when the HRE turned on me, but things have been turning around pretty well. Triforce has been a huge help and is looking to become pretty dominant in that game. At least in the west, I really have no idea what the East is like.

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Originally Posted by Nightbringer

I really have no idea what the East is like.

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Mostly Purple and Yellow, with a bit of Teal thrown in for good measure

sounds like how it usually goes. Personally, I have never seen a game in which the Turks have had a huge amount of success. Although they do seem to be doing well in GA

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Originally Posted by Nightbringer

sounds like how it usually goes. Personally, I have never seen a game in which the Turks have had a huge amount of success.

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They are always stuck between ERE and Egypt - it's a rough place to be

LOL :D About time we had such a thread!

OK first of all - I play SP on occasion. Like once every two days or once per day If i have the time. I have a save in SS 6.4 for England, the ERE and recently - Portugal. Man if you want a challenge, start a 6.4 Early game with RR on. Even without BGR Portugal just doesn't have physically as many troops as it needs to beat the might of money scripted, free troops Gracul AI Moors. Even with Crusade mercs they still have 3x your armies! Even if you blockade the land-bridge into Africa! Just wow... And the Ai gets such huge bonuses on the battle map in SS that a unit of skirmisher cav will charge and kill 70% of your general's bodyguard. And the Moorish FL general's Bodyguard stalemates two units of Mailed Knights, your own General + a unit of light cav! Oh and their spearmen sometimes can outrun your knights :D

Autoresolve actually becomes the better choice if you have enough heavy infantry mercs from the crusades.

BTW I installed Broken Crescent yesterday, just to see what the fuss was about. 8000 gold for dirt roads? What? It also seems very imbalanced. But everyone is talking about the 3.0 version coming soon so... we'll see.

TATW is awesome but also imbalanced. Pick the Elves and just stomp with archers who fire farther than siege weapons, run faster than horses and don't tire. And have 11 ranged and 15 melee attack. And shields.

Can I ask why such a name for this thread - the Anteroom? What does it mean?

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Can I ask why such a name for this thread - the Anteroom? What does it mean?

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Good question, it means the same as antechamber - a side room off the main Throne Room in which we can wait and chat.

Myth I haven't played Broken Crescent since 2.0 and I preferred 1.05 to that version. I guess it depends how much you are into the medieval islamic world - I just found BC different from anything I'd experienced before and loved it. It opened my eyes to that whole period of history...

I haven't tried TATW despite all the good feedback - I just don't really like the idea of the fantasy setting. I might give it a go if I start enjoying SP again.

I played TATW for a bit, and truly admired it in every way. It truly is a masterpiece of a mod, but for some reason I never found myself as hooked on it as I have been with SS. I doubt its the setting, as I love LoTR, (books, not movie, but the visuals in the movies work great for it, that's a whole 'nother topic though).
I don't think the balance was a problem for me either, it felt right that elves should be superhuman.

I think the issue ended up being the diplomacy. When it worked as it was supposed to it was too, predictable. Which I guess is related to the fiction. LOTR is less about the strategy and politics of war and more about characters and the more personal aspects of war. Which the tW engine does not do well.
The good guys fight the bad, and that makes it feel more like just one big war, rather than a series of wars with everyone trying to gain power. That is what I enjoy about TW games. The predictability in TATW killed my excitement to see who would rise and fall.

If I were to play another fantasy based TW mod, I think I would go for a "Song of Ice and Fire" based one. Lots of backstabbing and shifting balance of power in that.

I haven't read fantasy for many years and haven't come across the Song of Ice and Fire. Good is it?

By the way I have been playing SS6.4 on VH/VH (same settings as WotK2) and have been pleasantly surprised at the level of difficulty on the battle map. It seems like on those settings the cavalry speeds have been adjusted so that you can't as easily win huge battles with a few horse like previously. Which is good for hotseats with led battles.

yep, I feel like the balance in 6.4 is really in the sweet spot. Cav feels powerful but not indestructible.

As for A Song of Ice and Fire, I would definitely recommend it if you were looking to read some more fantasy. It can be pretty graphic and is definitely "dark" fantasy. It is also quite an investment of time, with 4 books currently with ~800 pages each. And a new one coming out soon. The first book is "A Game of Thrones." There is an HBO series of it right now but I haven't seen any of it so I can't speak to the quality of that. There is also an RTS being made based on it, I think that is still a long way off though.

Ah it's Game of Thrones. You are officially the third person to recommend that to me. The TV series is for Sean Bean fans as far as I can tell :laugh4:

Speaking of TV, I can't get enough of Spartacus...I just rewatched Blood and Sand after seeing Gods of the Arena. Love it. The acting and dialogue is terrible on the whole but the plot is pretty good and it's full of sex and violence, which is what the monkey likes...

well, there is lots of sex and violence in those books. As for spartacus, I tried and episode and the history major in me had to shut it off. I might enjoy it as entertainment if I gave it more of a chance though.

That is the only way to enjoy it. History it is not. My wife calls it gladiator-p0rn and she has it about right. It will be interesting to see whether they attempt to be historically accurate at all about the much-better documented events that follow his escape from the Ludus...

Make that 4 people, it's a great series. My father's reading the books right now. I'll have to ask him how the show compares.

Aside from exposure to the Sharpe series through my father I hadn't really seen much fo Sean Bean before, but I was pleasantly surprised to see Aiden Gillen (from The Wire) in the show.

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Ah it's Game of Thrones. You are officially the third person to recommend that to me. The TV series is for Sean Bean fans as far as I can tell :laugh4:

Speaking of TV, I can't get enough of Spartacus...I just rewatched Blood and Sand after seeing Gods of the Arena. Love it. The acting and dialogue is terrible on the whole but the plot is pretty good and it's full of sex and violence, which is what the monkey likes...

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1. ASOIAF is one of the greatest fantasy series ever! It's in my top 4 with LOTR, WoT and the Chronicles of Amber. Definitely read it. READ IT. NOW!
2. Watch the TV series after you have read the book. GRRM has done his best with the scripts and advising the HBO staff, but there is only so much stuff one can fit in 10 episodes per season. Books first, TV after.
3. SS is great. Definitely play with Gracul's AI, the other AIs are too passive and it's too easy to have unbreakable 200 turn alliances. Gracul is the way to go if you want a challenge. Try BGR4 if you have tons of time to read and learn the rules. It's somewhat of a chore though, so i've abandoned it for now. BTW in an Early campaign in SS Genral's Bodyguards still rule the battle map. Wherever there is only one enemy cav unit (or better yet-none) you can win with a GB alone. I've taken every rebel settlement on the British Isles in SP with just a unit of GB and a unit of Miles cav. I siege, the AI sallies and I kill them. This doesn't work in hotseat however, as when the Rebel turn comes the AI just autocalcs the sally battle and you lose horribly.

Monkey I'd also advise you to play with Real Rercruitment on in SP - it makes it harder to blitz the AI since you lack quality troops and the AI can always out-spearmilita you with it's massive gold and unit boosts. As England I eliminated the moors but had to fight around 6-7 full stacks to do so! And they had a bunch more but I eliminated them before they could use them!

Oh TATW is great value for a mod. It shows superb effort has been put in the making of it. What I also don't quite enjoy about it is that he map is huge but kind of bland - a settlement every 500 miles or so, not like the clusterfark that is Western and Central Europe in regular M2TW :D

BTW there is a Weseteros mod in the making (hosted on the .net) I've downloaded the alpha and it's nice, but the full version looks so much better.. *drool*. Go and check it out if you want.

I've won a few hotseats. I like a lot of the mods released, BC, TATW, SS, KGCM. (KGCM is good for SP IMO). (Just not the HS patch version.)

I've killed the Mongols turn 2 as Khwarez on LE before.... ;)

I've seen the Turks do well once in a hotseat game, SS6.3. But they would've lost against me (Cumans, love my Cumans) and the Romans.

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Originally Posted by Visorslash

I've killed the Mongols turn 2 as Khwarez on LE before.... ;)

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They don't believe you over at TWC

Cause they are heretics. :P I'll post some pics.

No need to prove it to us, we're a trusting bunch here at the Org.

Pics are always nice to see though..

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Trying times for the Khwarezmian Empire, massive Mongol hordes surround the settlements of Khiva and Konjikala.

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We're gonna need some help, so a jihad is called on Urgench.

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All possible forces are gathered for the strike on the Mongols.

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All of Islam has united to fight this barbaric foe.

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The situation. Note how the Mongols didn't attack the settlements or Sultan Jalal.

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You can easily win by opening the gates with a spy and killing off genghis with the jihad armies, but that's cowardly. :laugh4:

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Aradai the Wrathful faces three full Khwarezmian armies. Who will win? Note the AI always moves him there.

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Battle rages and Aradai falls.

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The Shah triumphs! The Mongolian army is utterly destroyed.

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Prisoners of War. I didn't think there would be enough left in Aradai's army, so I released them.

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The victor, Enver Kagan is adopted into the family for his battle prowess. All hail Enver Kagan the Mongol Slayer!

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The remnants of Aradai's pitiful army withdraws to Urgench. Note Urgench is under siege from the start of the turn, so the army will go outside the settlement, and be allowed to be attacked again. You can also not bother with this and beat it in a siege using the spy to open the gates.

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The Captain is drawn into battle along with Genghis Khan the Tyrant. Who will soon be Genghis Khan the Dead.

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Captain Berkei dies foolishly.

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The Khan is dead! Long live the Shah!

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The victory is absolute. Enver Kagan shows his prowess in killing the feared warlord Genghis Khan of the Mongols.

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This time no mercy is shown.

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The Khan is dead.

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Urgench is sacked, the inhabitants are brought under the rule of the Shah.

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What's this? Another Khan dead?

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The Holy War is over, the followers of Mohammed rejoice at the capture of Urgench.

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The Mongols are destroyed! Tada!

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They don't believe you over at TWC

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That was me. And now that he's finally posted the screen shots :hail: :2thumbsup:

In case no one realizes it. I was chief beta-tester for 6.2 and this strategy never crossed our minds. I've got to Pm gracul and remind him to put "horde" mode back into the mongols for the next update .:laugh4: That'll teach you. :wink: :tongue:

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Originally Posted by Myth

1. ASOIAF is one of the greatest fantasy series ever! It's in my top 4 with LOTR, WoT and the Chronicles of Amber. Definitely read it. READ IT. NOW!
2. Watch the TV series after you have read the book. GRRM has done his best with the scripts and advising the HBO staff, but there is only so much stuff one can fit in 10 episodes per season. Books first, TV after.

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can't agree more with 1.WOT 2.ASOIAF 3.LOTR

Just checked my amazon account.. i've pre-ordered book 5 of ASOIAF abt 2 years ago, and it notified me today that it would ship next week ... finally!
As for the HBO show of ASOIAF: very enjoyable (as usual with HBO) and very true to the books, however not deep enough to fully appreciate the story if you haven't already read the books, you miss a lot of stuff I feel one shouldn't be missing :)

I've been wondering about that. I hadn't read the books yet because I was afraid they'd spoil the show more than the show would spoil the books (figuring the first book would have far more detail, plus maybe some story lines that the show might not have been able to include).

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As for the HBO show of ASOIAF: very enjoyable (as usual with HBO) and very true to the books, however not deep enough to fully appreciate the story if you haven't already read the books, you miss a lot of stuff I feel one shouldn't be missing :)

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The show wont spoil the books, because the books contain a vast amount of details the show doesnt. Plus, the books are so superbly written, that even though i did like the dialogues in the show, the books still come out far on top.
besides, it's only book 1 which as been filmed, you can still breeze through it and enjoy the next 4 :)

I assure you, if you dig fantasy, ASOIAF is a must read

With all these fantasy fans in the house maybe someone should start a TATW hotseat?

I can confirm TATW works well in hotseat mode. Or at least it did a year or so ago.

I could run one if there were interest. We'd have to decide whether to do it more free for all or split into teams. There are also some factions that were small and surrounded (Isengard) or spread out and surrounded (Misty Mountains)...

i'll prolly read it, but i'm more a pbm kinda person :)

Have you played in a hotseat before?

yes, that's how i know i'm not really cut out for it ;)

i prefer to post a lot on the forum, while keeping ingame activities to a minimum ;-)

I was hoping to find an EB rome PBM here, but alass :)

What is the difference between a pbm and a hotseat? They seem like they would be the same to me.

Maybe he is talking about playing only one faction? I don't know.

Yeah I think what Kogitsune is talking about is a succession game, where a group of players each take control of the same faction for a set number of turns

Succession or rpg? The former could be arranged quite easily.

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yes, that's how i know i'm not really cut out for it ;)

i prefer to post a lot on the forum, while keeping ingame activities to a minimum ;-)

I was hoping to find an EB rome PBM here, but alass :)

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Maybe, although back in the old days PBM was used for both types of games.

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Yeah I think what Kogitsune is talking about is a succession game, where a group of players each take control of the same faction for a set number of turns

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Yeah I think what Kogitsune is talking about is a succession game, where a group of players each take control of the same faction for a set number of turns

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yes.
people can control a single avatar, or even just roleplay a non-playable character which can influence the real ingame events and stuff like that :)
Like the ptolemai thing going on in the subforum here...
Although everybody participating has an avatar in that game, but you get the picture..

The Ptolemai RPG, Kings of the Nile is great. You should really get involved. Obviously the culture is a bit different but the RP'ing is just as good, as is the gameplay.

my knowledge of the ptolemai is quasi nihil,which would limit my rp capacities i'm afraid

but if i'm bored enough, i might read up from the start and join in after all :)

Most of the RP is in terms of communication and basic historical knowledge. If you feel competent enough to take part in an Ancient Rome based RPG you would definitely be able to take part in a Ptolemai one. :D

Yeah, it's quite easy to get into the rpgs here. KotR was one of my favorites and I didn't know anything about the Holy Roman Empire when I joined.

RPGs are hot property right now - our next Tales from the Throne Room will focus on them

it's been quiet in here the past few days and all the HS are running late. Is there something going on that I'm missing?

Yeah, me. I got issues in RL.

*wipes down the bar and pours another drink*

what's troubling you fella?

*shakes head*

It's not problems, too much is happening.

Well I'm still here. Any chance for a rematch vs the .net? BTW Visorslash in a .org vs .net will you play for us or them? :)

Dunno.... maybe org.

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I think Mordrorru would go for it. I'm probably out this time though, but happy to admin it as long as you guys don't bicker all the time like we did :laugh4:

Those final faction ratings looked painful. :sweatdrop: Go Moors, though.

Hmmm, no holidays here in the U.S. that I'm aware of. Not sure what's up with just about all of the hotseats freezing.

I already said it was me. :P

You're holding up all of the hotseats, even the ones where it isn't your turn? I knew it! :holmes:

I am a master of sabotage. :evilgrin:

Well, UOTI is slowed down because Ignoramus is MIA.
FN is running at its average pace.
GA is running at its average pace.
CoG is going trough a change of player.
WOTK2 was slowed down because of that same player who went MIA.

BTW Phonics what will happen to France in WOTK2? Think I can switch and let the K-Shah be AI (that might make it too easy for you however)

I usually let people miss a few turns before I make the difficult decision to replace them. France is a long way from the Mongols so a few subbed turns won't make too much of a difference. Ash might just be on vacation and has forgotten to tell us.

Well I always notify someone when I go away, and I let them know how long I will be away. Since he had a relatively low number of posts I decided to just replace him all together. I've been in other communities where fresh eager-beaver posters join games and are very prolific for a month, then disappear forever. Plus I like having Thanatos Eclipse in my team :D

well, if he comes back in the next couple of turns, I'd be happy to let him take back over if he wants :)

hey I wasn't criticising you, just thought I should explain.

Thanatos, if Ash doesn't come back would you like to join us in WotK2? Seeing as you have SS6.4 installed now...

No criticism taken, but if he did just forget or something, I thought I'd let it be known I wouldn't mind handing it back over to him.

Well, with my prospects in FN looking gloomy and DA effectively done unless triforce resurfaces (tear), sure

Woohoo!

By the way I just besieged your capital Minsk in FN :devil:

And Myth, if the K-Shah gets knocked out there will no doubt be an opportunity to rejoin later as another faction so don't worry.

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By the way I just besieged your capital Minsk in FN :devil:

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Minsk is my capital? I always thought it was my other city. Oh well, I already raised taxes and abandoned Minsk to your army. Apparently you can see forces hidden beside watch towers :p

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Oh well, I already raised taxes and abandoned Minsk to your army.

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Very kind of you

That or the K-Shah single-handedly defeats the mongols...:smartass2:

BTW I see a recent tendency of games here being fought battles, which IMO is a good thing. Autocalc is not fair - those with heavy infantry and lots of defense always stomp and don't fear anything if they make a full stack. Fought battles are imbalanced sure, yes a GB unit can win a battle all by itself, but still at least the option is equally available to everyone.

Just now I saw that Scotland in CoG had 3 or so generals in it's city. I immediately autoresolved and was happy with losing 400 men out of some militia and peasants (puiled back my miles). The AI in SS has given me tremendeous grief with it's uber combat bonuses on these GB units. So fought battles are great if you are desperate or if you get the jump on an equal enemy force, but the option to autoresolve some annoying siege assaults or things that would actually make your life harder to fight is still there.

But fought battles are awesome for factions that have archers or jav-cav. If another Britannia game is made, it should definitely be a fought battle system - England has Armoured Swordsmen who are cheap on upkeep and have as much defense as a Dism. Feudal Knight, as well as Armoured Sergeants. With these units it can walk over enemy armeis that normally would splatter them in a fought battle. Wales and Ireland would be very intimidating in fought battles to be sure.

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That or the K-Shah single-handedly defeats the mongols...:smartass2:

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That's the spirit!

I'm not sure which kind of game I prefer. When the battles are fought there is always the possibility of a small faction successfully defeating a larger one, if the strategy is right. However sometimes you get onto drama over battle map 'exploits' which can get ugly and ruin games. Also once everyone understands that a couple of horse can take out a full stack games can get really cagey and slow-paced with lots of forts whIch is not to everyone's taste.

On the other hand while AR is simpler (and quicker to play) it is also biased towards certain factions and it's much more difficult to turn the tables on a larger faction which can outproduce you, making games more predictable.

anyone tried that you are the senate thing on twc?

We seem to go through phases.We went from all autoresolve to mostly fought battles back around the first BC hotseat here, then back to more autoresolve because people thought it was more fair. I wouldn't mind seeing more hotseats with fought battles, although I think it works better with mods that heavily rework the battles.

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That or the K-Shah single-handedly defeats the mongols...:smartass2:

BTW I see a recent tendency of games here being fought battles, which IMO is a good thing. Autocalc is not fair - those with heavy infantry and lots of defense always stomp and don't fear anything if they make a full stack. Fought battles are imbalanced sure, yes a GB unit can win a battle all by itself, but still at least the option is equally available to everyone.

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6 hotseats and 2 RPGs! I can't remember the Throne Room being more active..keep it up everyone!

I was thinking maybe we should get a thread dedicated to people telling when they go MIA, for how long, and whom they appoint as a sub for which game. Anyway I'll do this here for now. I'm going away to the beach until next Sunday, or maybe even a bit longer. Ideally my turns in UotI and FN won't come up until then as they are the most important (as in, most intense situation and thus a mistake from the sub can ruin things) but As subs i want:

UotI: Zim or Phonics if he is unavailable. But Zim knows my plans and standing forces, and knows where the enemy is.
FN: slysnake, I'll leave him detailed instructions.
CoG: I trust any one of my three teammates there to make the right decisions. Phonics should step in as Admin for this game I reckon as he has the admin pw.
WotK2: Anyone really, but I'd prefer if it was someone who is closer to the action and can benefit from seeing the deployment of enemy troops and the way I've blocked things as the K-Shah.
GA: Anyone from Thanatos Eclipse, Nightbringer or Zim. Things are fairly self explanatory there.

I'd also ask the admins of each game to reset my password if my turn comes up. I'll fix it when I come back.

An absence thread similar to twc's would be nice if people remember to use it. But sometimes even reliable people suddenly go MIA. We've had quite a few games die in the past month over there and a few of us were left scratching our heads over the missing.

edit: And if I go missing you should expect the worst. When I leave I'll make sure people know it. You'll get a lot of "#$%&*" :laugh4: