The Library Makes The Man

I am a big fan of books.

I consider E-readers to be a pox. Works of literature are meant to be held and caressed like a beautifual woman. The e-reader is nothing more than a symbol of the slavery that is modern tech. A hunk of metal you hold at arms legnth, completely disenganging oneself from the act of reading

The nerds and science geeks got together and decided prose and romance could be killed. They have nearly done it with this kindle abombanation.

164 dollars can buy 20 works of mistakable beauty. Or a hunk of polished scrap metal

Bottle of Gin
The Sound And The Fury By Faulkner
Granpappys Colt 1911

It's in a box labeled "Emergency" :book:

With you all the way. I have hundreds of books and whats more, I've read them all.

(Well there was chuffing else to do in the 70s on a Sunday)

Meh, I've embraced the revolution.

Well I mean with my PC, I do not have Kindle, besides computers I am technologically illeterate.

I read a ton of stuff online, I use the Puritan library site, read Calvin's Institues elsewhere. Right now I've embarked upon John Milton's 'Paradise Lost'.

All for free on my PC.

And I can have my music vidoes blaring on youtube while I'm doing it. Again not costing me a penny, cause its not like I'm going to by them for an iphone or something.

You know when the stingy Scotsman has entered the thread...

Only 20 books? The local used book store must be spoiling me. I'd expect at least twice that many for that amount. They've got some well taken care of older books as well.

Don't go blaming us science-inclined folk for that kindle abomination. Some of us enjoy our Asimov in paper form.

I use something called a library. A quick check determines I have rented 79 books since last july.

Note: I go to Uni over a hundred miles away from my home.

Also I prefer the actual book to this rubbish e-reader nonsense. Nothing like smell of a new book the feel of its paper the crispness as you turn the page......

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Originally Posted by woad&fangs

Only 20 books? The local used book store must be spoiling me. I'd expect at least twice that many for that amount. They've got some well taken care of older books as well.

Don't go blaming us science-inclined folk for that kindle abomination. Some of us enjoy our Asimov in paper form.

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I have a perchant for hardcover

Sue me

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I use something called a library. A quick check determines I have rented 79 books since last july.

Note: I go to Uni over a hundred miles away from my home.

Also I prefer the actual book to this rubbish e-reader nonsense. Nothing like smell of a new book the feel of its paper the crispness as you turn the page......

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I mark up my books, Highlighter and notes all over them

Reading is not a passive act

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Originally Posted by Strike For The South

I have a perchant for hardcover

Sue me

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But they are awkward to read if you're lying in bed or whatever...

Im with you on this. I dont get the whole Kindle thing. I mean, you just cant curl up with a good Kindle. Plus scrolling is annoying. Id rather turn a page.

Men were meant to curl up with two things: women and real book.

Not going to read from iPad either, I like to shelve my stuff. Books are also furniture.

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WTF IS A BOOK???

E-Books are more fun if you stop using your finger to scroll and use another body part instead. Makes reading more interactive.

STFS you also forgot phenom that is toiletry bookery. Taking E Books in the bathroom is disgusting, its like brushing your teeth or drinking coffee while pooping, and thats disgusting, because I have done it. Bathroom books stay forever in the bathroom, and being able to "curl up" on the toilet and take a big lumberjack crap while reading the George W Bush biography is not only poetic, but also something I would not trade for anything. Well, I'd trade it for the Iraq War, but nothing else.

i like the kindle. i wish i had one. i must admit i am addicted to technology. e-reader might make it easier for me to read.

i think paper works for some, others need an electronic reader to get into it. i think the option is great because it helps promote reading in some that otherwise wouldnt pick up an old book from a shelf.

i dont get the hate going on here.

What hate, most of us just love books. iPads are cool but reading a book just feels more like really taking the time for it

You can't hide nudie pictures of Bea Aurthur in the pages of a Kindle for "use" at a later time. You also cannot rip out the pages in times of emergency to smoke drugs

The kindle is the way of the future. Time to give up nostalgic memories of "books" - electronics will rule all. Kindle is cheap monetarily but not cheap qualitatively, the best combination.

What's this elitist nonsense again?

If we're meant to read so many books, why do most people need glasses after doing it for a while?
And if it's about gathering information and gaining knowledge etc. then why does the medium matter?
It's fine if you like to read books but all these nonsensical "rules" about how to read and them etc. are just a matter of taste and a way for people to feel superior. :thumbsdown:

I like how the paper of old book smells.

Get with the times gramps!

I've never used a Kindle or any other similar device for reading. I can see the convenience of having one though. I don't understand what you are so upset about.

Real books. If I wanted to rent a book, I would go to a library.

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Originally Posted by Husar

What's this elitist nonsense again?

If we're meant to read so many books, why do most people need glasses after doing it for a while?
And if it's about gathering information and gaining knowledge etc. then why does the medium matter?
It's fine if you like to read books but all these nonsensical "rules" about how to read and them etc. are just a matter of taste and a way for people to feel superior. :thumbsdown:

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Why does it matter to you that we prefer a certain medium, got no idea where the percieved hostility is comming from.

Books suck, period.

I guess there is some nostalgia involved when moving away from the dead tree versions.

OTOH there is no horrible smell from used books, no despair over running out of room on the bookshelves, no annoying tall books that forces you to put it somewhere else, less time spent when going through multiple books for a particular reference and when encountering one of those of oh so uber academics who insist on "Verba Obscura" the iPad is handy for the quick lookups,

Apart from that, paper is great!

I completely agree with the OP. I can understand the appeal of e-readers for 'throw-away' fiction that you'd be embarrassed to have displayed on your shelf anyway, but the only way I will ever switch away from paper for my non-fiction reading is if I simply cannot get paper copies anymore. In addition to simply enjoying the feel of a book, I very much like the visual appeal of a home library. It looks good, and you can't have a room like that if you've only got e-books. Plus, it's kind of hard to collect and display rare books in electronic form, which is another one of my side-projects.

E-books are preferable (though on the PC; I don't have an E-reader). There is nowhere comfortable for me to sit while reading a book, and reading in bed is impossible: I fall asleep immediately.

Books are for when I want to read outside the house. Otherwise they're only good for endnotes. Going from page 20 to an endnote in a non-bookmarked pdf is a monstrous ordeal.

Finally, physical copies are too rich for my blood. I have no idea where to find these used book stores, so it's either Amazon or the library for non-digital.

I hate reading from an electronic page.

I don’t know what it is but if it is over two pages I just leave it. It is like I get some kind of claustrophobia.

I like being able to hold the book. See the whole thing, turn it over and see the back cover and thumb the pages.

Scrolling just does not do it for me.

My favorite room of the house. One thing ebooks do have going for them is ease of storage space. My late wife was a highschool English Lit. teacher, and with both our collections it feels like I have almost as many books as the town library. I can't imagine having to move them all.
Nothing beats a leather chair, glass of cognac, and a good book.


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Hosakawa, what's on the shelves between the two bookshelves, if you don't mind sharing?

I love the idea of being an avid reader and owning lots of books, but realistically, most of my reading is done online. Wikipedia, TVTropes, and these forums provide pretty much all recreational reading I do now.

Any literate Alabaman should be commended

LOL, this from a Texan? But I suppose you're from one of them big cities you fellas got out thar.

Oh, and it's "Alabamian", though I don't blame you for either not knowing or caring.

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Originally Posted by Fragony

Why does it matter to you that we prefer a certain medium, got no idea where the percieved hostility is comming from.

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Tsk, honey, the hostility was overdone, but I was mostly referring to the OP, who calls e-readers a pox etc. I mean, where does that hostility come from?
I don't mind if someone prefers to read books, but to say it like people who prefer e-readers are somehow inferior and "doing it wrong" is quite conservative-elitist IMO.

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Originally Posted by Husar

Tsk, honey, the hostility was overdone, but I was mostly referring to the OP, who calls e-readers a pox etc. I mean, where does that hostility come from?
I don't mind if someone prefers to read books, but to say it like people who prefer e-readers are somehow inferior and "doing it wrong" is quite conservative-elitist IMO.

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Originally Posted by B_Ray

Hosakawa, what's on the shelves between the two bookshelves, if you don't mind sharing?

I love the idea of being an avid reader and owning lots of books, but realistically, most of my reading is done online. Wikipedia, TVTropes, and these forums provide pretty much all recreational reading I do now.

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That is an older pic and except for the bottom shelf bronze horse and weater gauge those nick nacks have been replaced. They are collectable dolls & toys my late wife & my daughter collected. My daughter has them now. My second wife has some of her things on those shelves.

Ah, Ebooks; light, portable, compact and convienient. So many tomes in such a small package and it makes you feel like your're holding a star trek padd without the pretentiousness or the privacy loss that you get with an apple product.
I've been using the sony ebook for over a year and a half, mostly at college in my free time and when I'm walking for long stretches. I've read American Gods, The Book Thief, the Harry Potter books, The Hobbit, The Lightning Thief (and subsequent entries in the series) and all of the Song of Ice and Fire books on that beige/grey screen and I considerd it my most important items in my college life last year. Then I got onto a course I actually liked and convinced into buying a PSP so my use of it as realy realy gone to nil, mostly due to all the recent books I've read beeing either long sought after ones I wanted to get in hardback (Wise man's fear, Chathrand series) or spontanious decisions during my periodic romp through waterstones on my scenic routes home from campus (Ciaphas Cain, Lost fleet).

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Originally Posted by Kagemusha

I like how the paper of old book smells.

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Agreed.

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Originally Posted by Fisherking

I hate reading from an electronic page.

I don’t know what it is but if it is over two pages I just leave it. It is like I get some kind of claustrophobia.

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Is that an Ebook that has a backlit screen or one of the electronic paper Ebooks?

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Originally Posted by Drunk Clown

Books suck, period.

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Tell me you're joking, please.

I have burned the novell 1984. It was such garbage.

Anybody mentioned audio books? I spend about an hour each week day driving, and more on the weekends, and I find it very convenient to be able to listen to a book whilst driving. Non-fiction works seem to better than fiction, for two reasons. One, you frequently get distracted from listening while you're driving, which means a lot of rewinding if you're listening to a narrative. But with a non-fiction, it's not such a big deal if you miss a few sentences. Secondly, the quality of the voice acting matters less in non-fiction, where the narrator isn't trying to make voices for multiple characters. I'd recommend audio books to anyone who spends a lot of time driving and doesn't care to spend their free time reading.

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Originally Posted by B_Ray

Anybody mentioned audio books? I spend about an hour each week day driving, and more on the weekends, and I find it very convenient to be able to listen to a book whilst driving. Non-fiction works seem to better than fiction, for two reasons. One, you frequently get distracted from listening while you're driving, which means a lot of rewinding if you're listening to a narrative. But with a non-fiction, it's not such a big deal if you miss a few sentences. Secondly, the quality of the voice acting matters less in non-fiction, where the narrator isn't trying to make voices for multiple characters. I'd recommend audio books to anyone who spends a lot of time driving and doesn't care to spend their free time reading.

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Sure, why not just call while driving and ram an innocent person.

do you listen to the radio :rolleyes:

also im hoping your a youngster otherwise your behavior towards books appalls me a little.

I listen to the radio, but that's not the same.

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You focus less on listening to a song, than listening to a story where you interpret the story and envision it. For calling you have to pay attention because you need to response.

I'm not disagreeing witht he cell phone obviously.

Most people however dont really listen to audio tapes in the car. It is usually narrated by a highly soothing voice and that is a great deal of the appeal.

Now! Something that does mather;

I love the Lord of the Rings books. And some dutch novells.

If you can drive while carrying on a conversation with a person in the passenger seat, you can drive and listen to an audio book.

I sadly don't have the money to buy a lot of books especially the expensive more academic ones. But as a student I make maximum use of the univesity libraries (have about ten books borrowed at this time, I can go up to twenty) and there's still the city library as well. When I do have money later, I'll surely have more than a mere bookshelve.

Though I admit I occasionally (once to twice a year) buy a book and tell my parents I need it for a course. :evil:

...But then again I often don't feel the need to buy some books that actually are 'needed' for a course.

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Originally Posted by Hosakawa Tito

My favorite room of the house. One thing ebooks do have going for them is ease of storage space. My late wife was a highschool English Lit. teacher, and with both our collections it feels like I have almost as many books as the town library. I can't imagine having to move them all.
Nothing beats a leather chair, glass of cognac, and a good book.


https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v...84/library.jpg

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Wonderful! That is just lovely. :bow:

A perfect setup, but I would change the cognac for bourbon.

I love books. I love writing. Limitless.

I still prefer paper books, e-books, not yet for me. Plus the Kindle is a tad expensive right now, I'll wait.

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Originally Posted by Beirut

Wonderful! That is just lovely. :bow:

A perfect setup, but I would change the cognac for bourbon.

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Pull up a chair. I've got Crown Royal Reserve or would you prefer a nice single malt? :bow:

A good book needs a good trappist:

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And what about for us non alcohol junkies? A good cocktail with lots of ice and lemon would do the trick. :yes:

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Originally Posted by Rhyfylwyr

You know when the stingy Scotsman has entered the thread...

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Enter the consummate snob. I recently bought over half of Honoré de Balzac's oeuvre for 20 quid in a second-hand bookshop. In French, because you know - I was raised way back when edjookasjun was awesome.

Oh, and I'm with our killer Texan all the way.

AII

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Originally Posted by Hosakawa Tito

My favorite room of the house. One thing ebooks do have going for them is ease of storage space. My late wife was a highschool English Lit. teacher, and with both our collections it feels like I have almost as many books as the town library. I can't imagine having to move them all.
Nothing beats a leather chair, glass of cognac, and a good book.


https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v...84/library.jpg

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Wow, I envy you. I find the chairs nowadays are completely unable to make me feel comfortable enough. That's why I read sitting on my bed or directly on the floor. If only I had such a cosy place...

Same here, I would definitely appreciate a huge leather armchair with puffy back rests, it would make reading so much more enjoyable. :yes:

But for the moment the bed or the couch will do.

I actually like to stand and pace around the room when I read, because otherwise I tend to fall asleep. Unless I'm reading just before going to bed, in which case the falling asleep part is quite convenient.

I like the idea of putting thousands of books(don't know if that's the actual number, was told so by a friend) onto a single e-reader and being able to take them every where I go. However, as posted by so many others, there's too much to love about an actual book for me to get one. One not posted before: every book seems to have it's own character, something not easily potrayed through an e-reader. The older the book - the more character it seems to have. Of course, this is only a projection, but still, it makes books that much more enjoyable.

And quite honestly, the idea of getting to walk into a room every day and just see walls of books is quite awesome.

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Originally Posted by Drunk Clown

Books suck, period.

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Yeah. I have not been in a library for years. If I want something i can get it online. It is so much easier.