Seems like the whole political divide just took a waaaay darker turn.
http://www.theatlantic.com/news/arch...tacked/487316/
Hope she survives this, no-one should get killed over their political beliefs.
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Seems like the whole political divide just took a waaaay darker turn.
http://www.theatlantic.com/news/arch...tacked/487316/
Hope she survives this, no-one should get killed over their political beliefs.
She's dead, RIP, no particulars atmQuote:
Originally Posted by Adalingum
Yeah, I saw the updates.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fragony
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-36550304
There are rumours of it being a brexit related attack, with the attacker supposedly shouting "Britain First!".
Read about that "Britain first" shouting too. We'll have to wait and see what the police can find out about the assassin.
But boy, does that stink! Two little children just lost their mum.
I don't want to sound mean but I wonder what impact that will have on the referendum.
"Britain First" is a far right racist organisation founded by a former Northern Ireland Loyalist terrorist and led by an ex-BNP councillor. I doubt this has anythng to do with the referendum.
According to witnisses they heard no such thing, rather grim all this. Guy certainly doesn't look like very nice guy thoughQuote:
Originally Posted by Beskar
I used to live in Birstall. Terrible event.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkIpQGU9lDE
She sounds like someone who makes enemies, too many to pick, kinda curious how this unfolds.
There are rumours of it being a brexit related attack, with the attacker supposedly shouting "Britain First!".[/QUOTE]
Birstall is a smallish village where everyone knows each other if only by sight. This guy was known in the area.
I see that scum are already trying to tar the leave campaign.
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Originally Posted by I of the Storm
I must say I am plesantly reassured by the conduct of this forum, the TWC descended into a flurry of political finger pointing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Husar
R.I.P should mean rest in peace, not ripped into pieces.
Don't worry you have already won by doubting the EU-supremacy. That assasiination is really horrible, I sense a false flag but things probably are just what they are, I have a habit of being wrong
Brendan Cox the husband of the now deceased MP has set up a Gofundme which imburses 3 organisations one of which is the Syrian White Helmets an organisation who's leader is barred from entering the USA on grounds of terrorism the White Helmets operate in terrorist held areas such as Al-Nusra. Either he is Naive about who he is funding or know's who they are, because you wouldn't willy nilly give away money without research into an organisation.
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WHITE HELMETSQuote:
In celebration and memory of Jo Cox, we are raising funds to support charities closest to her heart, chosen by her family:
The Royal Voluntary Service, to support volunteers helping combat loneliness in Jo's constituency, Batley and Spen in West Yorkshire.
HOPE not hate, who seek to challenge and defeat the politics of hate and extremism within local communities across Britain.
The White Helmets: volunteer search and rescue workers in Syria. Unarmed and neutral, these heroes have saved more than 51,000 lives from under the rubble and bring hope to the region.
Let's come together and give what we can to help create that better world.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5k6hSS6xBTw
Something is odd about this couple she was advocating British involvement in Syria, the husband's full time occupation was social justice and doesn't have a proper job he was recently on the Thames campaigning for the Remain campaign. The media has held her up as the martyr for the status quo / remain campaign, so quickly that is. I believe she was killed by the murderer due to her stance on immigration. She wanted more mass immigration and has voted against measures to curb it etc.
So much for that. The post at the start of this page calling Cox's side "scum". The post above me attacking Cox's husband.Quote:
Originally Posted by Greyblades
shut up you im not attacking i dont know what made you so angry you've subcribed to the narrative of that brexit supporters have to shutup now or something, I'm finding this out myself I wanted to know a bit more on these people without the media steering me in any direction. Truth hurts because theres more than meets the eye.
EDIT: This is just the tip of the iceberg of what I've discovered.
Truth hurts, but bad grammar hurts more. It's the mark of the ill-educated.Quote:
Originally Posted by wasabinato
That isn't how we talk here, rap-battle is the other door. In the backroom we agree to disagree with dignity.
I've never made a secret of my distaste for supposed native English speakers who are barely literate in their own language.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fragony
Wasn't directed at you but at the the post you responded to. The backroom is a place of chivalry, not of ordinary insult.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pannonian
The idiot who killed that idiot definately seems to be ideolically motivated, 'death to traiters'. You aren't helping dumbass. We need a brexit for a nexit.
How quickly the respect for the deceased vanishes these days on these boards.
Only one idiot actually showed disrespect on this board and he was a 5 post blunder that dissapeared after getting rejected, we arent at the level you say we are quite yet.
Not according to IA. The left definitely exists, they are insane, and they are out to tar the side he supports so he considers them "scum".Quote:
Originally Posted by Fragony
I don't think he thinks so, I expect IA to be a very melliow personQuote:
Originally Posted by Pannonian
I'm telling you guys something is not right how the hell did the SPLC an organisation in America manage to get private reciepts of Tommy Mair's Book purchases dating back to the 1990's on the same day of the attack, they won't state their sources. Don't you think that's odd?
And this https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showt...post2053704338
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz4C2eFfx86
Brendan Cox has left no stone unturned and rushed to politicized her death, even making a GoFundme the day after. Which imburses unsavoury characters as you can read here whats that saying about flagging a dead horse? Spotaneous actions of a griefing father? Also the tweets after her murder.
EDIT: And i don't think I can be called disrespectful (Which is absurd to make the claim anyway) when you look at what Brendan Cox is doing. I think a few on here are actually being disrespectful to me. ↓↓
He has well over a hundred posts... and is a real creeper.Quote:
Originally Posted by Greyblades
Actually he didn't mention left at all, just expressing disgust at anyone making political capital out of it which is a feeling anyone should share.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pannonian
Yes, well, I'm not a fortune teller.Quote:
Originally Posted by Showtime
He talked about "scum trying to tar the leave campaign". On this forum, particularly in this thread, I've not seen any pro-remain posters trying to do so. Pro-leave posters, OTOH. In Lizardo's previous version of his post, apparently it was something to do with Jews as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Greyblades
We're talking about IA, who probably has a life outside this forum and could be talking about the inescapable number of mongoloids both on and off the internet going "It's those darn brexiteer's fearmoungering that's to blame" that he assumes we have been similarly exposed to.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pannonian
It's hard to miss without blocking every piece of media regarding the referendum.
Yes I was going to state the SPLC is a Jewish organisation, that focuses on mainly Jewish issues but I thought some people might take it the wrong way and think I'm a rabid anti semite for some reason, so i left the jewish bit out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pannonian
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Originally Posted by Fragony
He told the Court: 'My name is death to traitors, freedom for Britain' just like you posted.Quote:
The idiot who killed that idiot definately seems to be ideolically motivated, 'death to traiters'. You aren't helping dumbass. We need a brexit for a nexit.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-36567005
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...rds-court.html
I didn't mentioned anyone on these forums. I was referring to a certain mentality that thinks it's OK to use a womans/mothers/wifes death for political point scoring.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pannonian
As for the socialist thing. Well when your credo has been comprehensively discredited over the last 100 years and you still cling to it, well let's just say I'm with Einstein on this one.
But thanks for putting words in my mouth.
http://www.newstatesman.com/politics...nts-your-peril
So far it (using the murder) isn't as bad as I expected it would be
How has it been discredited?Quote:
Originally Posted by InsaneApache
We keep getting more and more poor people and social issues, we almost have to shoot even poorer people to keep them from trying to come here while others try to blow us up because they hate us, when will Capitalism solve that?
Your own country wants out of the EU because the EU is too capitalist and doesn't care about the fishermen, no?
I cling to the socialism thing because I take notice of what local government does for local people. That's the socialism I believe in. Not big concept big rhetoric stuff that you fixate on as "the enemy". But people putting in their time to make other people's lives better, even if only in a small way. I've been abroad in places where even these small considerations are alien. That's not what I want in Britain. If that's been discredited, and I am insane for believing in it, then I'm happy to continue being insane and to believe in the credo of small socialism.Quote:
Originally Posted by InsaneApache
And from her constituents' testimonies, Cox believed in that kind of socialism too.
Pre-emptively smearing the deceased to forestall any stain on the far right was worse than I'd expected it to be.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fragony
I am not exactly sure what I'm looking at, to me as an outsider it looks like nobody tried to gain anything from it but I could be wrong ofcourseQuote:
Originally Posted by Pannonian
Diligent constituency MPs like Cox was are the flagbearers of the socialism I believe in. In combination with equally diligent local councillors, and volunteer workers. As much as IA scorns them, I prefer to appreciate them, whatever party they may belong to.Quote:
Originally Posted by Greyblades
Is anyone going to manually enforce the suspension on Lizardo, or is he going to continue smearing Jo Cox on here?
Does he have to like jo cox? you don't really need to censor somebody over not liking a communist politicianQuote:
Originally Posted by Pannonian
Well, she isn't a communist. There are some political nuances you seem unfamiliar with from the content of your posts, which are more normalized outside of the USA. Rhetoric in some circles in the USA are very "black and white", but there is a great big spectrum of ideology. Terms like socialist/communist/nazi are not interchangeable in the wider-world and shouldn't be such, as they represent many things. It may be easier for you to contribute your views to the POTUS thread, as this thread is referring to the UK referendum.Quote:
Originally Posted by CupHead5998
As for Pannonian's comment, it is referring to that some comments are inciting disrespect to someone who was a victim of far-right terrorism and murder.
Are we going to allow this distortion and double think Pannonian is trying to dismiss and smear what I've found out in previous posts as disrespecful and that was never my intention. It seems Panno dislikes free speech and thought. This is getting silly now. Pannonian clearly has an agenda of suspending me and it's not simply .
Do you have a link to the thread? i didn't know it existed
RIP :bow:
He is correct, your temp suspension should have been extended, but the system tripped and didn't do it. But with your account as it is, if you sneeze in a funny manner, it would trigger automatically, so I am leaving it as is and hope you refrain from remarks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lizardo
Even Gawain and Tribesman managed to do so, for the most part, though neither could even vaguely STAND the other's attitude on things.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fragony
One of the things I disagree with in the backroom is it's migration towards allowing course language. Not that the terms themselves are all that shocking or uncommon, but I always believed they served to dampen civility a touch.
Yer huckin' right!Quote:
Originally Posted by Seamus Fermanagh
http://media.makeameme.org/created/D...AVE-3p434x.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by Seamus Fermanagh