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This happened yesterday, kinda funky and very long time to get to the forums.
It started Saturday evening my time up to today. Not sure if it's 'fixed' now. crosses fingers.
Well everything seems to be ok, been here for a while looking around
Seems the whole server finally restarted.
Thanks good, it was getting pretty annoying yesterday ~D
i thought maybe the board was being reconfigued :balloon2:
Well, since I came here around 19:00 GMT (nearly 30 minutes), it has been dog slow - 1-2 minutes for a page load.
I'm still getting the message quite often at the moment.
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The host shed some light in the darkness.
The background is that this database is large, not THE LARGEST, but certainly biggish. Computers have problems running big things. The system administrator was tweaking the SQL server for better performance, something appearantly didn't work out that well, resulting in a wacky database.
The database is moved to another server tonight and during or after that move many tables got damaged. The SQL tool managed to repair them.
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I got this error message last nite
I was going to post it yesterday but couldn't as i kept getting the error message when trying to post.Quote:
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I have had all of the above mentioned also very often. Something is definitely not working as it should. Let us hope it is all sorted now.Quote:
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It seems to be better today, although i have had the usual error message (without the warning bit on) when i clicked on see all active users on the main page
Yes those were the messages. This morning, about 5 hours earlier from now, I also got those with extra bits about problems in tables. The host took the entire database (not on 3.5" floppies I hope) and copied them to a new machine. During or after that some tables damaged. That problem is fixed now.
I saw a few minor seconds lasting glitches too, I'm not sure whether that's because of cached pages (?) or new problems with SQL. I just loaded the memberpage fine The Tuffen. We'll keep our fingers crossed for a while.
Thanks for the feedback.
its good to hear that its been fixed.
Well.. we had just another downtime. But we'll continue working on it. The forumsearch function puts some stress on the database (size alone). We've added a Google search to the site. I think it works fine and will open some options when we need to optimize. I like some user feedback about this search too.
First of all, thanks for the hard work on behalf of all of us, TosaInu. I'm sure you'll work it out. I'm not so sure about the Google search though. I used it to search for all posts under my own avatar on totalwar.org (must be hundreds by now) and got only 7 results. Then I looked for a post I made some time ago about Korea and Google couldn't find it, no matter how accurate and discrete the keywords I entered. Experiences with Google search functions on other websites aren't encouraging either, so I'm told.Quote:
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Anything else you want checked, you name it. :charge:
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I want to second those thanks for all your efforts on our behalf over the last few days. One thing though: the board search function seems to be completely disabled at the moment. Is this permanent now we have Google?
I have to admit, though, I'm not overly convinced by the Google search function either. I tried a few searches for my own posts, and it was tricky to find them. And I had an advantage as I wrote them, and so knew key phrases to search for.
The native search function was a great deal better, especially as it was up to date, much easier to use, and more flexible.
But if the search function is going to collapse the forums with the regularity that we've seen recently, then Google is far better than nothing IMO.
Hello therother,
I've seen some board software and search is a 'weird' thing. The perfect search doesn't exist I think, or you must have a very good server or a small board. In short: if a forum has 100 MB of content, than it also has a searchindex of about that size (it can appear to be non existant in FullTextSearch).
There are various systems and optimisations to get an acceptable search function each having cons and pros. Some boards offer different strategies and so does this one. I chose the supported default one and modified it a bit with the given options. It took a couple of days to figure it out, generate, (Pentium 4 2.6 needed about 8 hours to do the grunt), cut in manegeable pieces, upload, insert, complement and activate.
Result: a pretty complete search method, short words like JHC, CD, DVD, MAA and a load of others were recognized. That searchindex is also something that can cause serious problems in our database, even if it's not available to anyone (because it is indirectly: every post made has to crawl through it).
I knew all that on forehand, but the alternative had/has cons too (it doesn't find anything below 4 chars, is not officially supported and some boards perform worse with it) and it takes time to figure those out. I thought we could be happy until 1,000,000 posts.
Google Search is meant to be an addition. I've found some neat results with it using 2 letter words, but it's also lacking. Google obviously doesn't have the whole lot indexed (yet?).
The server move improved performance, but didn't cure all whoes, I've been around this forum all day and saw some SQL seconds burps and one larger downtime of some minutes. Last night, just 10 minutes before calling it a day, it crashed again and a table got damaged. It wasn't that straightforward to fix as the corrupted tables yesterday morning and my uneducated fear was that a next corruption could bring down the whole lot permanently. I live in a different timezone than the host: many supportcalls don't have the 30 seconds response time. So, I should take the board down for public until professional help arrives (solving the problem can still take days then) or delete #1 suspect, the monstrous searchlog which could be restored in the worst case.
So, Google Search is not meant to replace forum search, it was not meant to disable forum search now, it was not meant to disable it permanently and I was and still am looking to get that other forum search method working (got private testboards running it). Unfortunately the crashes forced me to erase the current forum search right now.
The host mailed me today that two other, far bigger sites on their network use this same messageboard. They run without the search, as the search kills servers.
We'll soon try the other method when this board runs stable (search is not the only thing that has the potential to disturb parties), there are modifications for that one as well. If all that fails? Then we have to think about reinstating a prunning policy for the OT forums.
I'm sorry for the inconvenience and you having to read all this, I hope it explains a bit though.
Good job I didnt have internet access over the we!
Anyway yeah, as said the google engine isnt overperforming, but Id rather have that than experience really bad lag, crashes etc.
To be honest, what do people use the search for? Mainly their own posts I think, at least I do, just to make sure Im subscribed.
Maybe if the search was restricted to searching by name for a while. It would give an incentive to try and catalogue some of the important posts into another index?
Anyway, good work and thanks for getting it all up and running again!
TosaInu: Thanks for the comprehensive insight into the inner workings of the Guild database and search function. Very interesting. Could I ask if you are making any progress with the methods you were testing?
On the matter of the database itself, the forums have been very slow this evening, almost to the point of being unusable. It could have been my connection, but it seemed to be working fine for other sites. And just now the forums seemed to be completely offline for about 10 minutes.
Same sentiments about work done Tosa-sama, for which I truly am grateful but one point has been getting to me...As I have a lot of free time, sometimes, I can browse the Guild for up to 1-2 hours a day, searching virtally all the forums, thus I have come to the conclusion that the server is extremely laggy.Quote:
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Before this and on other sites, the pages loaded nearly instantly, now I feel like i'm back on 56k modem. Is it just me or does everyone else have a good connection and quick page loads? I'm having extreme lag with up to 3 minutes for a page to load especially for some reason in the backroom... :furious: any Idea why Tosa and hope it's not extra work for you... :embarassed:
Hello,
The forumspeed varies for me: from slow to acceptable (30-5 seconds).
I haven't invested time in the search last week, the forum isn't at full speed as I hoped, so still got to see how we can improve that first.
Ideas why: yes and no ~:)
Hello,
I've enabled a fulltext search on my homecomputer, it seems to be working ok on large databases. There's an issue with creating it though, it's pretty fast and painless compared to the log we had, but it still requires some time and memory (few minutes), it may be just too much for this server. I'm going to try some other methods and may have to contact the host.
The nice thing about it is that there are no 10,000,000 records and it is less than 50% MB of the previous one (depends on settings) and posting is faster. The con is that it can't find CA, STW, RTW, VI, BIF, BUF, DVD and so on as 4 characters are required.
I just tried to look at a topic called 'Screenshot key and folder' in the colossum and I got this:
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I am sorry I can't check the manual now - anybody knows what key to hit to get a screenshot and which folder to look? In STW it was F2 but it seems RTW used another key.
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i suggest you wait until you have the manual, or search the forum. there are a number of topics on the matter.
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That's a new one frogbeastegg :jumping:
The link brought me to the topic. Does it display for you now?
No, it's still broken. Let me try it with IE (using firefox currently)
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That worked. So it works with IE but not mozilla firefox.
Found another one, colusseum again: link
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Im playing as Parthia at the moment, and had just defeated Pontus (strange btw, the only had Bithynia left, and 3 Eastern Infantry and they demanded 5600 denarii for ceasefire). Then I got in war with Greeks (Horse Archers VS Hoplites...slaughter) and this thing happened:
Hoplites staring at stone
Anyone else seen it?
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Re: Strange Greek deployment in battle!!
I've seen it.
This little "rock" is actually a forest!
Seriously, rocks like these are evaluated as forest terrain. You can see this when you hover your mouse over it. You can also try to put cavalry there. Won't work in my experience. It may be the german translation, but the point is that terrain pieces like this make deployment difficult.
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lol, that looks like one mighty interesting stone!
I think this has to do with collision detection, you'll get the same sort of effect when maneuvering around trees etc. Seems that this particular rock seems to be mis-calculating it's own size!
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Lovely! Can you send your absolutely/totally mad general there and give them a speech?
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I've sometimes seen rocks like that give a hiding in woods bonus.
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Re: Strange Greek deployment in battle!!
Seems the Druids influenced the Greeks somehow. Anyways that's a sign to Romanize them
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I've seen that too. Even amongst my own troops. Heretics.
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It's actually a pile of poo : one of the Hopilites is a bit of a lad and he chose to bre
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Anyhow , it so turned out to be the mother of all arse biscuits , and the rest of the lads couldn't help but be amazed and deeply impressed . They are merely staring at the leavings in stunned silence in that shot , given they have never seen anyone drop a pile of off brownie even remotely that large in one squating before .
That's how realistic the attention to detail is in RTW , C/A out did its' self there !
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It's actually a pile of poo : one of the Hopilites is a bit of a lad and he chose to break off a loaf right there before the battle saying something like "well this is what I think" .
Anyhow , it so turned out to be the mother of all arse biscuits , and the rest of the lads couldn't help but be amazed and deeply impressed . They are merely staring at the leavings in stunned silence in that shot , given they have never seen anyone drop a pile of off brownie even remotely that large in one squating before .
That's how realistic the attention to detail is in RTW , C/A out did its' self there !
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very good, Mr.Frost, very good.
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Indeed.
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My faction (Scipii) wasn't even popular with the plebians, I only captured Sicily and two small Greek towns...(I completed all the Senate's missions but one).
Has anyone experienced this, or is it simply a bug to get outlawed that early?
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so any time something unusual happens, it becomes a suspected bug?
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Last time I played as Romans (Julii) I got outlawed in 100 BC, I had a very strong plebian support, it made sense. But there it was rather... unexpected
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Probably not a bug, just what your game decided to throw at you on that Campaign.
I did not experience such results, however if there is many more, I would just say that the game is made that way.
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Being outlawed 15 years into a campaign sounds fairly buggy to me. I can't believe CA would program the 'Senate outlawing a faction' trigger to be a purely random event, it simply doesn't make sense. Does your faction leader possess any traits that might wreck his Influence rating? If you've created no tricky alliances and have done nothing wrong
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Some of the topics in the colusseum are working correctly. I shall see if these two work with IE now, and edit the rest in...
EDIT: yes, they both work fine with IE.
EDIT2: When I was transfered to my edited post I ended up with a code version of the topic, just like those above so this isn't limited to the colusseum. When I exited and reloaded this topic it displayed correctly; this did not work with the other topics.
Maybe log out with firefox, clear cookies and log in again?
The topics are working correctly in firefox now. I only turned the PC off for the night, nothing more.
Glad to hear it solved.
I used the Google search today and it seems to me that it returns more results (also about old subjects) than a couple of weeks ago. Is this imagination?
I've noticed that it's getting better also, unless we're having a group hallucination or it's wishful thinking.Quote:
Originally Posted by TosaInu
Funny that you should resurrect this thread, but there seemed to be a few problems with the server/database yesterday (30th) about 7ish - I got the dreaded, "There seems to have been a slight problem with the Guild database" for the first time in a while.
Sorry to once again pester you with this, but could we have an update on the status of the board search function? :bow:
Also, you mentioned that you were testing various implementations of MySQL fulltext search. Just as a matter of interest, which performed better - the native (but as yet unsupported) feature or hacks such as JohnWoo's.
I encountered serious lag and a few posting failures today
Therother. I've tested the standard SQL search, it was working pretty fine. Problem is that I can't alter the tables myself with PHP as they are too big. Host has to do that.
Yes, it's lagging again ah-dut.
Ah, thanks for the info.
Don't know if this has any relevancy here, but I'll mention it anyway - I had trouble sending, or even previewing, a PM about 2am GMT last night. My browser (Opera) reported this error:
It showed up when I tried to preview the message and when I tried to send it without preview. Problem lasted a few minutes, but seemed to resolve itself.Quote:
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An appropriate representation of the requested resource /vb/private.php could not be found on this server.
More tech trouble? For the last week or so I've found it very hard to get the Guild to load. Everything has 30 second or longer loading times, if it loads at all. Much of the time I'm left waiting for a few minutes before I get "there seems to be a problem with the database, please hit refresh blah blah". About a quarter of my attempted posts fail with that message and it takes several minutes for everything to load so I can try again. Most of my attempts to answer my PM's result in the database error message. One time my post appeared but the topic's last post date/owner didn't update, nor did the last post/topic listing in the guild. It was as if my post did not exist outside of the inside of the topic. One post came out mangled with extra spaces inserted in it, and then it took ages for the several step editing process which then broke with the database error right at the end. The post did update successfully though.
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Hello frogbeastegg,
On top of the normal problems, there are PHP attacks. Attacks and countermeasurements slow down boardperformance. I just received reply from the host about a couple of things and the board will likely be offline for some time over the next few days. We'll try to keep this at a minimum. My advise is to write posts in your textapplication and copy/paste when done.
I'll post again when the grunt is done.
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On top of the normal problems, there are PHP attacks. Attacks and countermeasurements slow down boardperformance
Let me guess. There's a Santy.c worm out (you got it, it was released on 12/24) that attacks not just php boards, but all php scripts and pages.Quote:
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There are indeed worms and PHP exploits, and it's affecting many sites. The recent slowdowns are caused by mechanisms to defend against it. As far as I know it didn't come through yet, there seems to be a serious effort though to harm PHP, so don't be surprised when this or another board is gone at some day.
Right, you can just ignore my e-mail about the boards seeming to be down, between 3 and 10 today. I am obviously able to get back on.
Whatever you did overnight, it's certainly done the trick - the forums are flying this morning. Good job, Tosa! :thumbsup:
Yup, so far I have had no problems that cannot be attributed to IE and dial up!
Yup. The mark of a good admin's job is that usually no one notices. Now we do. Board runs like a train at full steam again. Thanks TosaInu! :bow:Quote:
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Just to let you know Tosa. Getting the well-known...
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There seems to have been a slight problem with the The Guild database.
Please try again by pressing the refresh button in your browser.
An E-Mail has been dispatched to our Technical Staff, who you can also contact if the problem persists.
We apologise for any inconvenience
...again quite often lately. It's always somewhere around 8pm to 9pm GMT onwards.
It's fine during the day. Probably just when most people are on, I suppose. Not even sure if I can get this post through.
The Tavern is most affected, by the way.
Cheers.
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Now I can’t send PMs at all; I click send and get dropped in a blank page. From that point on the org is broken; I can’t get back to it via any of my bookmarks; they begin to load and instantly stop. About 10 minutes later it starts working again for no apparent reason. This has happened several times now. I’ve also ended up with the forums becoming inaccessible with nothing but broken links after simply browsing for around 5 minutes.
Hello,
It could be because of the host trying to do something with the database required for the searchfunction. Working on it at the moment.
I'll do a quick investigation and decide what to do, the board will be down from several minutes up to an hour or more. Depending what/how it will be done.
Board will be down starting now.
Stage 1 completed.
Hello,
A table locked up, it took the tool an hour to repair it.
I've lost several posts today. Even short ones I'm now copying to the clipboard before I hit send.
Hope you can work this out. All the TW boards seem to be having increasing levels of trouble lately.
I was mesmerized into saying that a famous frog dwelling around here got some serious issue into logging in, and that her ability to post has been severely hampered.
So far noone has been complaiing, but she just thought she got to let you know. Same trouble as reported earlier, website going all clumsy (and she is an expert in that area) after 5 sec.
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Excellent news! Does this mean we may have it back in the near future, if they are successful?Quote:
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That is excellent news. I experienced some serious lag etc.. while "taking care of some business" here about 2 hours ago, but within the last 1/2 hour or so things have returned to normal. Definitely copy any "longwinded" post, my specialty or you may lose it.
:puts book labelled 'cross species mind control' away: Thank you, Louis.
I only managed to get her one yesterday afternoon and evening, for maybe 2 minutes, if that. I was reading the update about a broken table in this thread when the org broke again; how ironic. Apparently though I was showing up on the active list even though I could not get the site to load, and it was loading as normal for Louis. I was not sat here and trying to get back all that time, but since I did a heck of a lot of writing and played some MP RTW I was able to try to get through for a good few hours.
So my problem with the org only loading for a second before halting as if I never clicked the link is more localised than I thought. I've done the expected checks to firewalls etc and nothing helped. Also nothing at all is changed on my PC those times I do manage to get here. I have not tested my PM capacity yet; yesterday morning I managed a couple through endless retrying, about 4 failures to each success.
EDIT: Whatever the problem is it's still present today; the links broke again shortly after this post.
The board will be down today as I'll work on the database. I'll start within a few minutes from now and it may take a while. Hard to say how long, but it could be a few hours.
Hello,
Time for some updating.
We had a new searchsystem, it was a pain to get it. The reason is that the computer has to perform a one time operation on a huge amount of data. The host, being a master on this computer, had to pull some tricks to get it done.
The operation took just a few minutes on my Pentium, but it drained all memory and required about a GigaByte in c:\Windows\temp. It was on, so staff could test it out (would be a shame to blow the entire server), but I was forced to delete it again during the last downtime. Server just refused to load it. The database got rid of 200,000 OT posts now.
I guess it's back to the drawing table as far as Search is concerned, queries can take up a few seconds and they are performed on the same tables as used to store your posts in. This can lock up the tables, which will cause a forum downtime. This is a problem for many larger sites and while we are not that large, our database is definately not 8 Gig in size, our hardware is not what those guys use either.
The not so great performance of the Search (20 seconds while 1 person can use it is not that fast) may be related to something else, for now it's gone while we'll monitor performance of the bare system. Still looking around for improvements. For now you'll have to use the Google search, which is surprisingly fast and returns more results than before.
I'm looking into creating a partial forumsearch (say limited to RTW and modding forums). Should be smaller and just work.
Added a tiny tweak that should help narrowband: CSS files are stored in files and no longer served from the database. It's only 6 kb, but it's cached in your temporary internet directory now instead of downloading it again and again.
Thanks for the update, Tosa. As always, it's much appreciated.
Interesting idea. I think it is certainly true that the lack of a comprehensive search function for these forums is a little constraining for users.Quote:
I'm looking into creating a partial forumsearch (say limited to RTW and modding forums). Should be smaller and just work.
Can't speak for anyone else, but in my experience the boards have been lightening fast for the last few days. Lag is almost non-existent, and I've been seeing download speeds in the 30KBytes/s range. Long may it continue! :thumbsup:
It has seemed faster to me, but I am also keeping two windows open instead of one, so I can load a page with one while I read a thread. I am much more efficient and I think the speed is up!
It has been a little slow for me at the moment (1500 GMT). I've also started getting the dreaded "done" white screen again when trying to submit a post in the past two days.
It's been patchy for me too, pretty much from the moment I posted how well the forum had been performing. Seems I foolishly tempted fate. :embarassed:
On the other hand, Jelsoft released yet another security patch the other day (getting a bit like Microsoft in that respect) so that might have something to do with it. Yes, I'm grasping at straws...
Sometimes IE crashes on me and I am scared that my post is deleted but apparently right when the second screen redirecting you comes up it is already transmitted. Has scared me many a time.....
Hello,
Yes, Jelsoft has. Patching is a pretty easy and fast procedure with standard boards. This board isn't standard anymore and full patching will remove many customisations. Restoring all that will take a couple of hours. Luckily, the changes are also listed individually and the security fixes are provided seperately. The relevant bits up to and including 3.07 are applied to this board. 3.03 as listed below isn't completely right.
PHP seems to be in the spotlight though and that will result in moments of decreased performance.