EB news - Friday, March 25

Greetings Europa Barbarorum fans!

Since our announcement of the open beta last week, the forums have been buzzing! We still feel that April will see the beta arrive, but again all dates are subject to change. Some of you prefer to look at pretty pictures than to read news about EB, and we know that last week was a bit of a disappointment for you. So this week we have several different things to feast your eyes upon.

Prometheus has been working on the republican Roman units. What you see below is a WIP of the early, Camillan Triarii. The Triarii were the third rank of the republican legion, called to battle if the attacks of the Hastati and Principes faltered. These early Triarii still fought in phalanx, and carried the full greek panoply. The spear length will be shortened from what you see below.

http://img50.exs.cx/img50/3776/15kp.jpg

Aymar de Bois Mauri has been hard at work on the Iberian units. Here you see the Carthaginian, Iberian, and rebel Scutarii. The Scutarii are the rank and file heavy infantry of both Carthage and the Iberian tribes. They are armed with spears and two solifera. They wear good quality leather armor with a bronze disc (in the Gallic style) protecting their chest.

http://img91.exs.cx/img91/48/forumsc...arthage9ha.gifhttp://img91.exs.cx/img91/9113/forum...iiberia6nu.gifhttp://img91.exs.cx/img91/3815/forum...iirebel2zp.gif

Here you see the Macedonian and Seleucid Hypaspistai, by Agart. Hypaspistai are the elite spearmen of the Macedonian and Seleucid armies. They are versatile and elite soldiers, often forming the right wing of the Hellenic battle line. Their heavy armor and weapons allows them to fight as elite spearmen or swordsmen, and they are able to fight the hardiest opponents.

http://img163.exs.cx/img163/3628/hyp...macedon4vo.jpghttp://img163.exs.cx/img163/3751/hyp...eleucid4gd.jpg

Finally, Alin and Storm of Horus have been hard at work on new animations. Here you can see some examples of two-handed pike animations under development by Alin.

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/index...post&id=233777
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/index...post&id=250183
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/index...post&id=258345

Please note that unless stated otherwise, ALL pictures shown in our news posts are of works in progress. We continue to improve on all parts of EB, and will do so long after our initial release.

As always, if you have questions or comments, the best place to post them would be here:

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/forumdisplay.php?f=70

Or here:

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/index.php?showforum=60

We give special thanks to http://www.imageshack.us who provide us with a simple, foolproof, and free way to show you all these pictures each week.

Have a wonderful day!

Sincerely,

-the EB team

Great work on the Hypaspistai guys. Looks fantastic. A minor complaint: You guys should add shoulde straps for the shields. Other then taht it's perfect.

It isn't possible, or we would do so.

Oh god, the Phalangite animation is unbelievable !!
The other two are nice aswell ~:eek:

The Triarii, the Scutarii and the Hypaspist are top work aswell :)

The RTW community will never thank you enough for all you've done ~:cheers:

Oh my shoes! ~:eek: Those Scutarii are fabulous! :charge:

great work once again, but i can't see the animations... ~:mecry:

I simply can't wait any longer to use those Hypaspists in battle! They're just sooooo fabulous!!!! ~:eek:

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great work once again, but i can't see the animations... ~:mecry:

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Download these codecs, and use bsplayer or quicktime.

thanks for your help alin but it still doesn't work for me for some odd reason.
but nevermind, at least i have something more to look forward to when you've completed the mod.

I recommend mplayer classic , it usually plays even the weirdest things, including various quicktime formats (if you have proper codecs, of course)

cool screens, it looks great! ~:) ~:cheers: ~:cool: ~D

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thanks for your help alin but it still doesn't work for me for some odd reason.
but nevermind, at least i have something more to look forward to when you've completed the mod.

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Ohh i'm sad to here that, try the prog wich eadings posted maybe it will work.

Great job again, guys! Those units look fabulous. Esp. hypaspistai. However I was wondering what is the 2nd animation(that with an overhand cav. spear) meant to be.

those triarii have no eyes

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However I was wondering what is the 2nd animation(that with an overhand cav. spear) meant to be.

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One of many idle animations for the cavalary with pikes.

Great work as always. Especially the hypaspistai are simply perfect. Only one thing i would like to say about Triarii knowing offcourse that they are not finished yet. The face seems kinda blury and the shield seems to distort when in percpective angle. Also the shield device maybe it would be better to be recreated as graphic, cause from what i understand this one is taken from photograph, so that the figure will have an oveall same quality and realism amount. Its just too much contrast between a very detailed photo quality device and a not so detailed graphic face. Im just saying my opinion as graphic designer. Its matter of balance, we dont want the device steal the show do we? ~;) . Everything else is just perfect and i look forward to get my hands on the completed mod which im sure will be educational and fun.

great job guy's ! those animations are looking good , can't wait till the mod is released ~D

wow, thats too great!
what will the spearlength be for hypaspistai and triarii? short_pike, normal, or long_pike ( like in export_descr_unit, or in meters)?

I thought triarrii didn't fight in phalanx, since rome abbondonned it, will this be reflected? will it become useless to use the roman phalanx after some time ( before marius)?

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Originally Posted by DemonArchangel

those triarii have no eyes

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yes they have, on their helmets ~;) ~:)

very cool units, and amazing animations :D

Wow..... nice units, and very great animations...
Great Jobb EB...

Wow... those animations look amazing. I'm loving those Hypaspistai, looks great.

ok, I got a question. the shield on the pikemen animation looks about as big as the regular hoplite-shield in vanilla. how big will hoplite shields be? chin to knee?

Well it is the shield from vanilla i didn't have any units made by EB members but from what i've seen it's about the same size but i may be wrong with all the screens i've seen.
Also these aren't hoplites they are pikemen, hoplites will use the underhand animation from vannila but maybe we will change it so that it looks more realistical,we'll have to see this.

what? I don't follow.

the animation of teh pikemen walking has a hoplite shield ( hoplite in rtw). so teh question is: is this premature, like the spear of the triarius? or will it staythis big?
if they stay this big, how big will hoplite shields be? IMO the pikemen shield should be a tad smaller than in the animation and teh hoplon should be much bigger than in rtw.

Animations are not really dependent on equipment. He's working on the animation separately from our modelling work. The unit he is working on, aside from the sarissa, will be nothing like the units in game.

I don't think they were really pikemen...

nice but hypastai weren't really pikemen, but rather flexible spear armed soldiers that could also fight with sword. btw is the pikemen animation a fighting style, or is it just the skin

I don't know if this is just the animation of the Macedonian Pikeman contains a broken pike. Look at the Pike portion between his hands. It's all black. Is that really necessary?

He's not a pikemen! He's a Hypaspistai!

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I don't know if this is just the animation of the Macedonian Pikeman contains a broken pike. Look at the Pike portion between his hands. It's all black. Is that really necessary?

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No comments are needed in the model used in the animation, it will not be used in EB, i just used to show the animation, btw the broken thing was the sword wich i didn't delete it.

God shut up hippie. I wasn't talking about hypaspistai.

Mmm. Well I wasn't really talking to you in particular, more to this:

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the animation of teh pikemen walking has a hoplite shield ( hoplite in rtw). so teh question is: is this premature, like the spear of the triarius? or will it staythis big?
if they stay this big, how big will hoplite shields be? IMO the pikemen shield should be a tad smaller than in the animation and teh hoplon should be much bigger than in rtw.

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And if you are attempting to insult me, you're not, as it's not an insult.

Oh, sorry I just hate hippies so much taht I couldn't help it. It's good that you didn't take it as insult.

BKS is here to keep up the Hippie end!

I'd appreciate it if you'd apologise for the rather blatant and uncalled for attack on Merc BP. Even if calling him a Hippie doesn't bother him, as it shouldn't, it was still pretty harsh, and I DO take offense.

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Oh, sorry I just hate hippies so much taht I couldn't help it. It's good that you didn't take it as insult.

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What do you think that word means BKS? Jezus.

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I just hate hippies so much taht I couldn't help it

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It's sort of negated by that! Ah well, never mind...

Thanks, Big King. :bow:
And it's ok BP. I'm used to it. ~;)

What is your problem BZ?

Try to be respectful of others, as others are to you.

Don't worry about it Joao. It's fine. ~:grouphug:
And I think it's BP, not BZ... ~;)

Lame. :balloon2:

Is there a problem here? :inquisitive:

No, "sexual harassment panda". :party3:

I give fair warning now to everyone - this is a private forum and "free speech" does not exist here. We all try to be respectful, and though sometimes we are human and fail, any one person beginning a pattern of insults and personal comments will not be tolerated.

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God shut up hippie. I wasn't talking about hypaspistai.

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let's ask what your parents were in the 60s

Byzantine Prince is a disrespectful person. I know it's hard, with your upbringing, but try to put more effort into being nice.

:book:

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Mmm. Well I wasn't really talking to you in particular, more to this:



And if you are attempting to insult me, you're not, as it's not an insult.

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ehm, that was me, the question. so, now khev is back. can't we just drop the bullshit and awnser ervybody's questions?

The first to cast stones...

I'll repeate Khel's warning. Don't personally attack anyone in here, no matter how immature you may be. It's called tact, and also not being a dickhead. Everyone ought to learn both, they suit us well in the professional world.

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No, "sexual harassment panda".

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What? Is that supposed to make sense?

Either way, Urnamma's right. Get to the point, and no more petty insults.

just for general edification, the "sexual harassment panda" was a character on the american animated show, south park.

i'd get on topic, but i can't tell the difference between a hypaspistai and a hole in the ground. :embarassed:

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the "sexual harassment panda" was a character on the american animated show, south park

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So... is it still an insult? Seems pretty weak to me. Next time you insult someone, BP, try to come up with your own insults, and not take them from a crappy television show. Anyway, i shall say no more on this subject.

God... I hate people. :square:

The sentiment, I guess, is reciprocal. :bow:

You mean the feeling is mutual?
See this is partly why I hate people. :furious3:

Not enough time in this life to be hatin'. Let's shut this one down mods. :jumping:

Reciprocal \Re*cip"ro*cal\ (r[-e]*s[i^]p"r[-o]*kal), a. [L. reciprocus; of unknown origin.]

1. Recurring in vicissitude; alternate. [1913 Webster]

2. Done by each to the other; interchanging or interchanged; given and received; due from each to each; mutual; as, reciprocal love; reciprocal duties. [1913 Webster]

Let our reciprocal vows be remembered. --Shak. [1913 Webster]

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No.......that´s pretty much what I meant.