aint it time to announce this? our empires webmonkys are waiting to start building a twm based clanweb....
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aint it time to announce this? our empires webmonkys are waiting to start building a twm based clanweb....
Yeah, it could be a nice idea http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/biggrin.gif
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I cannot return l presume so l will keep my name among those who are dead by bows!
is that a challenge? http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/wink.gif
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Clan Kenchikuka
transfer to clan forum.
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La vie est un don.
But Who would be the judges?
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The Daimyo
Miaowara Tomokato
@ http://www.planettotalwar.com
Hey Miao! how u doing ? http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/smile.gif
Good idea Magyar, i'll talk to the Kenchi boys see what we can come up with, might be a little while away though http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/wink.gif
Special WEB design icon for best web site or something?
Be great!
Also when all sites completed ppl here at the Org could vote?
Put poll up etc.....just dont vote for ur own clan.
Would be very hard to monitor...and it's all a matter of opinion Fast. It could just degenerate to peeps asking their friends to vote.
Although maybe an elected panel would work. Still tho, politics would be hard to avoid.
maybe the developers will run a little contest to promote the game?
Winner to get a copy of MTW for free + free shipment *to any corner of the world*!
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tootee the goldfish,
headmaster of Shogun-Academy
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Politics will come into it in either way :S
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I cannot return l presume so l will keep my name among those who are dead by bows!
Where do we post the money??! http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/confused.gif
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Clan Kenchikuka
evil is within us... http://www.totalwar.org/site/emomalta.gif
hmmm try the wolf intro movie
http://home-4.tiscali.nl/~t543201/we...lves-intro.htm
although it aint finished yet it should give u the idea what kind of standard of websitedesign is required for thinking of joining the contest.
since my buddy aint hyping anymore in here, i will do it for him... http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/wink.gif
Network problems? I shall try to emulate em!
Seems like the intro is down!
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I cannot return l presume so l will keep my name among those who are dead by bows!
Quote Originally posted by Rath:
Would be very hard to monitor...and it's all a matter of opinion Fast. It could just degenerate to peeps asking their friends to vote.
Although maybe an elected panel would work. Still tho, politics would be hard to avoid.[/QUOTE]OK maybe a list of ppl to vote would be a good idea......Poll for a poll lol http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/smile.gif
i shall ask....
Impressive Movie Cham!
Here's my clan site. Not Medieval per se just trying to get a plug in for a new clan.
Clan Shinkage
There are many great designers here in the Dojo.
I have seen alot of very cool sites lately so it would be interesting to see the best of the best. May the Ryu be with you...Kamii
still an 80% version so...
EEk Gad. This means I have to go work on my neglected little site. http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/wink.gif
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The Daimyo
Miaowara Tomokato
@ http://www.planettotalwar.com
Very well done there. I liked the way the little circles were used to give in the story.
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I cannot return l presume so l will keep my name among those who are dead by bows!
It sounds like people mite have been listening to you guys.
There is a comment over at totalwar.com that says the web site will have something special. Let the web site design/war begin http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/smile.gif
Grand Idea...
I'll volunteer to be a judge having worked in IT and Web Development for many years now.
Nice to see you managed to toddle over here Honestus http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/smile.gif
Wraith
yes the khan has talent for this!
i realy liek the new design, we are ready to intude in europ!
koc
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Grey Wolves
I have made a new flash movie, but have nowhere to upload it so you guys can view it.
Although maybe not The Khan's standard I tried my hardest and I think it's just below it.
Oi Tera upload my movie u bast! http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/tongue.gif
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Jaguara-Spoken like a TRUE SPAMMER Toda!
No Fear Legend.
Just seen Toda's and i reckon it is THE ONE to beat...
Quote Originally posted by Toda Nebuchadnezzar:
I have made a new flash movie, but have nowhere to upload it so you guys can view it. [/QUOTE]
I've got plenty of webspace, let me know if you want me to upload it for you.
Thank you for the offer Honestus, I may come calling if my arranged plan doesn't work out.
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Jaguara-Spoken like a TRUE SPAMMER Toda!
No Fear Legend.
Final date for completed web sites is?
If we make the final date say August 21st. When MTW is supposedly coming out.
I can have mine finished by then.
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Jaguara-Spoken like a TRUE SPAMMER Toda!
No Fear Legend.
The date sounds good to me...
I need some very able and experienced community members to test a tournament program I am developing. I will post here in a day or so asking for individuals.
TINKYS SITE READY!!! www.teletubbies.com
ENJOY! http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/biggrin.gif
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EH-OH!!!!
i think the contest should wait until the game has come out dont you think?
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Clan Kenchikuka
Yes, l agree.
Also wouldn't be good if the site was rated on some aspects that judges shall come up with.
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I cannot return l presume so l will keep my name among those who are dead by bows!
http://www.dedicatedgaming.com/~angelsofdarkness
Waiting isn't a bad idea, but won't most of us be focused on playing? I think the downtime in anticipation of the realease would give quite a few a chance to upgrade their websites.
I think good arguments can be made both ways, however this most likely won't be THE one and only design contest. I'm sure we can organize more as the community grows following the MTW release.
[This message has been edited by ShadeHonestus (edited 08-12-2002).]
As far as citeria goes...here are some ideas.
- Viewablity - Can the majority of browsers and bandwidth out there view your site with ease?
Content - Just how good is it?
Navigation - Can people get to where they want to go? Are your site's resource readily available?
Creativity - Unique Ideas..enough said.
Functionality - How does your site function. Is it all flatfile are can your site jump through hoops? If it is dynamic..does it work?
Management - How easy is it to update or change content on your site?
The Mile - Quantify how the site goes the extra distance for its membership or visitors.
Just some ideas...and there can be sub-awards for each criteria, although that makes it quite a large endeavor.
[This message has been edited by ShadeHonestus (edited 08-12-2002).]
Keep this up Hon m8...it sounds like you almost know what your talking about http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/biggrin.gif
Wraith
** bump **
Three of us, in the same thread.
That is unheard of http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/smile.gif
Quote Originally posted by ShadesWolf:
** bump **
Three of us, in the same thread.
That is unheard of http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/smile.gif[/QUOTE]
Not on the clan forum m8.... http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/smile.gif
Wraith
how will this contest be judged?
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Clan Kenchikuka
ok. I will chair the judging http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/biggrin.gif. The panel decision is final. No appeal will be entertained. Prizes to be determined at a later date, if any. The website will be judged by the following criteria.
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Theme : MTW (non MTW themed will be thrown out to the dogs)
Functionality (20%)
001. breadth of browser compatibility
002. appeal to universal audience - multilinguality, cultural sensitivity
003. speed & bandwidth sensitivity
004. clean code with no faulty ActiveX, rollovers, applets, java, javascript, etc
005. stability in browsing the web site under different platforms/browsers
006. navigation functionality & clarity, quality & depth of links provided
Design (20%)
007. exceptional artistry
008. elegance & sophistication of core design concepts
009. typography & font styles
010. clever synergies of visual elements
011. user friendliness - interface functionality, clarity & simplicity
012. color harmonies
013. general layout & use of space - use of tables, borders, dividers, rules
014. effectiveness of unified feel
015. audio-visual synchronization
Content (20%)
016. usefulness & quality of content
017. reason to return
018. membership & community facilities
019. email lists, newsletters, newsgroups, chat, BB
020. information architecture - construct clarity, packaging, FAQs
021. visibility of functions
022. information access - search facility, site map, steps to destination, readability, effectiveness of image maps
023. clarity of grammar, use of language, spelling, punctuation, etc
Originality (20%)
024. ability to use new ideas for presentation
025. uniqueness & rarity of offerings
026. advanced, unusual, or clever solutions
027. creativity of components
028. elegance & sophistication
029. creative use of resources
030. resonance in memory
031. multi-sensory appeal & impact
032. strength of emotional impression
Fans Support (10%)
033. fans voting
Overall Aesthetic Quality and Design Execution (10%)
Closing Date: 7 Sep 2002.
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Panel:
1. tootee
2.
3.
4.
5.
6.
7.
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tootee the goldfish,
headmaster of Shogun-Academy
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[This message has been edited by tootee (edited 08-13-2002).]
sounds good to me http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/biggrin.gif
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Clan Kenchikuka
Sounds good here too...
ok good good.
This will be good.
Well getting finished soon can't wait.
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Jaguara-Spoken like a TRUE SPAMMER Toda!
No Fear Legend.
Haven't heard much more on this, have the judges been decided?
Just hoping for some more info...
Why don't the people who are entered into the competition vote on it - and don't let them vote for themselves.
Aint been in here for a bit... blimey Tootee you're getting hardcore into this. http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/wink.gif
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Clan Kenchikuka
hehe. I was thinking, since I can't handle the flash thingy *blah.. no time to go thru the learning curve*, might as well get involved as a judge.. people will start suxking up to me http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/tongue.gif
anyway the criteria were cut and paste from some web design competition, so its isn't my work http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/biggrin.gif Now this is call IP-Reuse.
Well.. any more judges.. surely u dont expect me to be the sole judge huh?
Should Be Ronin! for judging http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/biggrin.gif
Maybe we could mail Activision for such contest and maybe they give a prize?And judge?
Fast l think that is a good idea.
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I cannot return l presume so l will keep my name among those who are dead by bows!
http://www.dedicatedgaming.com/~angelsofdarkness
How exactally would you join the contendership with a site?
basically i would like to nominate some judges
tootee
the force
kraellin
kurando
shadehon
obviously im just giving some names dont get offended if ya aint interested http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/biggrin.gif but tell us if you are http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/biggrin.gif
anyone got any other ppl?
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Clan Kenchikuka
and maybe last but not least... fearfulways is updated and ready for medevil total war !!! a few more adjustment will be made before the 21st but the website is nearing completion... have a look at
www.FearfulWays.com
comments welcome here or at the forum http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/smile.gif
Hey Tootee,
Flash may seem like a lot to grasp at first, but it really isn't. I know I was intimidated when I first decided to learn it. Even though I don't use it for the web really, more often for business card CD's and such, its going to show up more and more and its definately worth learning. If you still don't know if you want to take the leap, download SWISH. Its a scaled down version of Flash and what a lot of people use for flash, especially gaming site intros and such.
Here's some more info for you in case you decide to dive into it.
GREAT BOOKS:
Macromedia Flash MX: Training from the Source
by Chrissy Rey
Macromedia Flash MX ActionScripting: Advanced Training from the Source
by Derek Franklin, Jobe Makar
Foundation Macromedia Flash MX
by Kris Besley, Sham Bhangal, Amanda Farr
ONLINE TRAINING:
New Horizons (newhorizons.com)
DOWNLOAD SWISH:
CNET.com
Thank you Barry mate but l am afraid that l am the webmonkey of the Angel clan so l cannot be a judge cause guess where my vote would go :P
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I cannot return l presume so l will keep my name among those who are dead by bows!
http://www.dedicatedgaming.com/~angelsofdarkness
Quote Originally posted by ShadeHonestus:
Hey Tootee,
If you still don't know if you want to take the leap, download SWISH. Its a scaled down version of Flash and what a lot of people use for flash, especially gaming site intros and such.
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Thanks Honestus. I've installed MX and started on the tutorials few weeks back but didnt finish it. I found the learning too time consuming. On your advice, I have installed SWISH, and will see how easy it is to learn to use. Learning is the key word here. All I'm interested is to make a flash movie like that of Magy's, without navigation stuff.
As for the MTW Website Design Competition, probably .ORG can coordinate and organise it? I'm only interested in playing judge, not the admin work http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/biggrin.gif
Hey Honestus, thanks for ya tip on SWISH. Got it, and learnt to use it to create a simple flash movie in just days. Nothing impressive, but it got me started anyway. So thanks again http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/smile.gif
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tootee the goldfish,
headmaster of Shogun-Academy
loyal roach of Clan S.G.
'Pa Si Buay Chao! Si Liao Ka Song!'
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Quote Originally posted by tootee:
Hey Honestus, thanks for ya tip on SWISH. Got it, and learnt to use it to create a simple flash movie in just days. Nothing impressive, but it got me started anyway. So thanks again http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/smile.gif
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Swish is a nice program http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/smile.gif I use it...HABA site is made with it. Magyar makes use of it too I think. Traditional HTML is good anyway, your site is beautiful Fish. http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/smile.gif
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Clan Kenchikuka
evil is within us... http://www.totalwar.org/site/emomalta.gif
swish is a great program that i use quite a bit... if any1 needs help with it feel free to drop by our forum and ask... ill be glad to help in writting or to possibly fix a swi file or 2. preloaders, navigation, tell target... it doesnt matter... ive used it for over a year now http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/smile.gif
ive learned everthing by trial and error but ive found these [link=http://board.flashkit.com/board/forumdisplay.php?forumid=17]forums[/link] to be of great help in the past.
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Fearful Ways - The Mori Family
Oh yes, I have a bit problem creating a preloader with % status. I tried to check if a frame is loaded, and if yes to place a n%, then proceed to check for another frame-load which will remove the n% and replace with (n+10)%. Somehow, the preloader doesnt work in the way I hope it to. Do you have a sample/template of a preloader with such feature that I can reference?
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tootee the goldfish,
headmaster of Shogun-Academy
loyal roach of Clan S.G.
'Pa Si Buay Chao! Si Liao Ka Song!'
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tootee, i recently learnt flash 5 myself to create a intro for the kenchi site (not uploaded yet) and i can only agree with cape here in that the forum and the tutorials at www.flashkit.com are really good http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/biggrin.gif there are tutorials for virtually anything and the forums get great responses amazingly fast too! just waiting for your site to load http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/wink.gif
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previously BarryNoDachi - KenchiBND
Clan Kenchikuka
yes i think swish creates monster every time. I think the swi file is almost x2 the sum of all my jpg and mp3 files used in the movie. Will flash mx be able to create more compact swi?
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tootee the goldfish,
headmaster of Shogun-Academy
loyal roach of Clan S.G.
'Pa Si Buay Chao! Si Liao Ka Song!'
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flash makes .fla file and swish .swi both export to .swf files but not sure which is better at compression but my money is on mx by a mile http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/biggrin.gif
you shold try using .png imo, i heard flash really likes em http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/wink.gif
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previously BarryNoDachi - KenchiBND
Clan Kenchikuka
mx will have many new features that will help alot.... but to fix problem now...
the %loaded thing is likly a tell target... you must use the system of /'s and .'s to tell it wich sprite or level to look to. some of the pre made loaders use java in a seperate file to query the file size... if that file is named wrong or not included then it wont work. personaly i think simple is better... the first scene use a few if frame than goto next frame commands...
swish is bad about file size... its partly what makes flash 5 so much better. however there are a few things u can do to drasticly drop file size
1)change all sound to mono.. you will need outside sound editor ... many free ones on cnet or other places. this will reduce sound file to half the size.
2)swish almost ignores outside jpeg compression... even if you have reduced the quality of photo and hence file size in outside image editor.... swish undoes it and puts it to a high to medium quality.... you can fix this by going and reducing the image quality to 10-25% (in swish) and graphics will be reduced on average 30%
3)goto export options and make sure you are not animating objects outside the frame.
do your reserch!! periodicly check the file size report...found in test movie.... u can save a lot of space if you know what using what.... i cant tell you how many times ive found 1 frame of 500 frame movie uncompressed.... that 1 frame was the size of 200 others...
dived file size by 5 for 56k modem
a 50k file will take 10 seconds
a 500k file will take 1 minute 30 seconds
1mb will take 3 minutes
divide file size by 250 for cable/dsl
500k file takes 2 seconds
10mb takes 40 seconds
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Thanks. Went back to swi and set recompress jpg to 70%. The swf is small by about 10%.
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tootee the goldfish,
headmaster of Shogun-Academy
loyal roach of Clan S.G.
'Pa Si Buay Chao! Si Liao Ka Song!'
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But I must say, Swish is really a simple tool to make flash. When I read about mx and the actionscripts, I tell myself "what! not another language.. and for animations?" blah I think I know more computer languages than human ones http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/tongue.gif MX is just overwhelming for a simple guy like me http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/smile.gif
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tootee the goldfish,
headmaster of Shogun-Academy
loyal roach of Clan S.G.
'Pa Si Buay Chao! Si Liao Ka Song!'
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