Alcohol... good or bad?

The question of this poll / thread is: Would the world be a better place without alcohol? I'd recommend reading this introduction before voting.

Now this might seem like a rather bizarre and prohibitionist question, but I got the impression from reading the "What kind of animals are we thread" (before it turned petty) that many people view alcohol in a fairly evil light.

In Britain, alcohol abuse is at a ridiculously dangerous level. Friday and Saturday nights are now danger zones in most town and city centres, especially around 11pm when most pubs close and again later on when the pubs close. Such a high density of people with no control over themselves due to alcohol consumption and who are clearly out to impress is a very dangerous combination. It is not hard to find fights. There also tends to be a lot of vomit around. I don't so much mind this, as I am perfectly capable of handling myself in such a situation and I have quite a high alcohol tollerance level, however, many people are put in danger by being surrounded by drunkards.
Alcohol is also often used in the abuse of women. Women are deliberately made drunk by sleazy scum-bags and can also have their drinks spiked with date-rape drugs when they are not at their most attentive. This doesn't just happen to women either. Alcohol is also a common factor in spousal (and child) abuse, when one partner staggers home drunk and behaves in a violent and threatening manor to their family.
Alcohol can also be addictive to those who believe they have nothing in life or feel they have no way out. Such people often cannot lift themselves out of a downward spiral because they waste all of their available money on more alcohol to shut out the horror of their lives. It can also cause brain damage, especially when used by young people whose brains are not yet fully developed.

Therefore my question again is: would the world be a better place without alcohol? Now obviously this doesn't mean the complete eradication of the chemical organic compound group in nature or for industrial and medical use before some smart-ass tries to score a cheap point with that one. I mean, when all factors are weighed and considered, does it really make the world better? Does it ever really make us happy? Now this isn't a civil-rights issue or a nanny-state issue. This is working from the hypothetical scenario that alcohol had never been invented/discovered as a drink of pleasure rather than a 'should we ban alcohol tomorrow' perspective.

I voted for the retention of alcohol, because I believe in moderation it is plesant and occassionally and under the right circumstances an excess of it can be what is required. That said, I haven't drunk any in a month now but that's because I'm in training.

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I've always had a firm belief that, to truly have a good time, you need to be fully aware of what you're doing.

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Actually this was one of the motivations behind me posting this thread. I was thinking in bed the other night (damn no lovin' and insomnia) about all the best times of my life and nearly all of them I was sober for. Then I thought about a lot of the worst times of my life and my biggest mistakes and for a lot of them, I was drunk.
I think alcohol is often just an easy way to a good time - a get out clause.

I agree with you that moderation and self control is the key.

** sips glass of 2001 Chianti Colli Senesi in dignified fashion **

I also agree with you about the dangerous degree to which binge drinking has taken over our town and city centres here in the past few years.

I lived in Manchester for twelve years and used to regularly go to the many clubs and bars there and always had a great time - same when I lived in Liverpool. I never saw any trouble despite all my small-minded stay at home Welsh friends going on and on about how rough the cities were (never having been there of course).

I came back to South Wales in 2003 and was truly gobsmacked as to what went on in the drinking areas of Swansea. There is one famous street that when I left was the banking centre of the city - now it is all bars and restaurants. Now there is nothing wrong with that per se - Wind St on a sunny Friday/Saturday night with couples and families enjoying a meal or an evening drink is lovely, but come 2 - 3am the place is (pardon my vernacular) a sh*thole.

Gaggles of seriously drunk women who can barely talk, agressive bunches of louts who have come to Swansea for a 'good fight' have taken over the place. Not nice :no:

But what can be done? I personally believe that education is critical and unless teenagers are brought up to respect alcohol and the lovely, lovely effects it has then there is no hope really. Yes, I used to get p*issed in my local at 17 and 18 but I was sent home at 11.30 with a boot up the arse from the landlord.

I cant decide.Personally im not sure how it have effected my life.Ive had fun when drunk,but sober as well.I have done stupid things under influence of alcohol,but so i have when sober.I still believe that any alcoholl or drugs arent doing anything,but people ar. :bow:

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I don't drink, myself. I've always had a firm belief that, to truly have a good time, you need to be fully aware of what you're doing. It would be criminal to prohibit other people drinking themselves stupid, however; it doesn't hurt me none unless they get behind the wheel of a car or some such afterwards.

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I agree, I don't drink either.

I believe people drink alcohol so they can release themselves from responsibility and social pressures. Or something like that.

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Originally Posted by Gelatinous Cube

I don't drink, myself. I've always had a firm belief that, to truly have a good time, you need to be fully aware of what you're doing. It would be criminal to prohibit other people drinking themselves stupid, however; it doesn't hurt me none unless they get behind the wheel of a car or some such afterwards.

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Yeah, I used to think like this-I didn't drink, wanted all my faculties available. I recently went on holiday, however, had a bit to drink most nights, and had the most fun I've had for a long time. I'm not normally very good at starting conversations-it's not a problem, I'm just a quiet person-but it works against me in social situations. I feel that a bit of alcohol helped to alleviate that, allowing me to enjoy myself more. So no, I don't think the world would be a better place without alcohol-like anything else, it's fine in moderation.

Plus, beer tastes goooooood. Well, some beer does.

~:cheers:

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I wouldn't be able to tell from that depth, I've never been Drunk. I've had alchohol before, didn't like the way it tasted, and probably didn't drink enough to have any effect anyway. Speaking as someone who's never been intoxicated, but lives in a town full of perpetually intoxicated people, I just don't see the appeal. There are few things that truly disturb me, and not having full control over my own mind is one of them; yet that seems to be exactly what alchohol does.

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Are you me?

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Originally Posted by Martinus

I believe people drink alcohol so they can release themselves from responsibility and social pressures. Or something like that.

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Very true - after a difficult split with my partner I drank too much but had the sense to see that forgetting in that way was not helping.

But also, is someone has no other release in their lives after a hard/bad/stressful day, is there really any harm in a glass of something that just lets you relax that little bit more and maybe (as it has done with me) slowed your brain down enough to stop you constantly going over and over and over something in your head and actually sit back, smile and be thankful for what you've got?

Cheers everybody ~:cheers:

Alcohol destroys brain cells. :thumbsdown:

It is bad...
I will never touch a drop of it again.

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Originally Posted by Gelatinous Cube

In your case, I would begin to wonder; who is the person talking more freely, and letting himself loose? You, or the beer?

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Does it really matter? If I was getting completely totalled on a regular basis, I can see where you'd be coming from, but I just like to become chatty-I still know what's going on, who I am, and I can remember it in the morning. I agree that drinking yourself into a stupor is a bad plan.

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Originally Posted by Sigurd Fafnesbane

It is bad...
I will never touch a drop of it again.

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Someone has a hangover methinks ~D

Socially it's great, it's great all round. Until you get into a fight/destroy something/make lots of noise late at night/throw up/get hung over.

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Socially it's great

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This is a good point.While fun with others, I don't see why you would drink more than one or two on your own. If you're doing that, then you may have a problem.

Drinking alone is definately a sign of alcoholism.

Agreed. :bow:

Alchohol is not good for the mind, it disturbes concentration, and it is not good for your thought. But, it is good when taken in moderate quantities.

Would the world be a better place without alcohol? IMO, it is a pointless question. If there was no alcohol, other recreational drugs would be in more widespread use. The question kind of misses the point of the debate, that is would the world be better if people didn't have to get intoxicated and escape from their lives.

Undoubtedly, yes. For me, alcohol is pure escapism, like reading a book or playing a video game, even listening to music. I write this as I still nurse a sore head from last night, so I have thought about this. Undeniably, some of the social consequences of drinking, violence, addiction etc. are terrible, especially in Briatin at the moment but I believe it is just hiding a deeper malaise of disrespect and callousness, as mentioned in the other thread. Wishing away alcohol is unrealistic, humans have taken drugs probably since we stopped being apes (and sometimes we regress again when we use them) so perhaps it is something embedded within the human psyche and that we just have to accept.

Edit: Naturally, I voted Gah! too drunk to vote.

Another thing, the poll choices seem somewhat biased. If somebody votes no, it isn't necessarily because they believe that it makes the world a better place. :)

*BP is too drunk to type propernly*

To alcohol! The cause of, and solution to, all of life's problems! ~:cheers: :sleepy:

Beer is carbonated, in that case G.C. you are drinking rubbish commercial beer.

I don't see why you would drink more than one or two on your own. If you're doing that, then you may have a problem.
BKS , possibly the problem may be that some people don't turn up on time

Alcohol is overall bad. That does not mean that I support prohibition, but is does make many people into idiots and it does kill in drunk driving accidents. That said if people were able to regulate their consumption alcohol would still be bad, but not a problem.

Love da booze! ~:cheers:

Love da broads! :kiss2:

But only one of them is best in moderation.

Actually my views on drugs is a bit split. On one hand drugs, including alcohol, creates violence and crimes, on the other hand, it is a part of our hertiage to consume substances for relaxation.
Just like good food, we need to stimulate our selves to be happy. Unfortunately, the controlled use of alcohol doesn't really seem to work for everyone.

People hurt themselves every day by eating to much. Even vitamins are bad more you in excess.

moderation is the key of life.

One thing that I've found is that in drinking alcohol you don't really lose control. You don't become a different person. The effect is biochemical, much akin to the biochemical effect of being happy or sad or excited. Alcohol affects you, but you're still you.

MUSHROOMS, on the other hand, are a different story. But I'll leave that one to those more experienced.

DA

GAH!

It is so subjective to people, it is too hard to say yes or no.

To one person who can control their drink and have fun with it, whilst it helping them socially it is great.

To another who can't control their drink.. Well we all know what can happen and it is clearly not in the best interest of all.

For that reason you cannot simply state it as good / bad.

Cigarettes however is a no brainer, because there is no redeeming qualities to them, they simply suck.

"Alcohol- The Problem and then Solution to all of life's problems"

-Homer J. Simpson

But I have to agree, taken in moderation alcohol is good. Over here sometimes drinking a Cold One during a hot after noon, whilst relaxing on the beach is great. However, if I'm up for some serious drinking I'll head over to a beach Cantina or Bar with a few of my buds.

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Originally Posted by JAG

Cigarettes however is a no brainer, because there is no redeeming qualities to them, they simply suck.

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I think you have misunderstood cigarettes. They don't suck, you are supposed to suck them........ ~;)

I couldnt vote because I dont believe alcohol makes us terrible or better people-yet im not undecided.

Ive always viewed alcohol as an escape from reality for people.

I used to drink a fair bit but it lead to nothing good. Sure I wasnt my shy self, but the "friends" i made didnt enjoy my company unless i was intoxicated.. they werent real friends.

Suddenly I found myself spending a whole lot of money with a rather pathetic group of people doing things I would never do sober with people I would never do those things with, and then ending the night throwing up all over someone elses house or lawn.

A lot of people around here my age seem to live for that, but it seems to me they are just trying to escape their own lives.. i dont know though, thats the way it was for me.

Sure, trying to make friends and have a good time is harder being shy panzer instead of drunk panzer, but those friends i do make and those good times(that arent forgotten the next morning) are all the more better. :thumbsup:

However, i dont judge anyone that drinks. Good for them for going out and having a good time. :yes:

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Originally Posted by King of Atlantis

People hurt themselves every day by eating to much. Even vitamins are bad more you in excess.

moderation is the key of life.

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You are wise beyond your years my friend.

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Originally Posted by JAG

Cigarettes however is a no brainer, because there is no redeeming qualities to them, they simply suck.

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Umm, not if they are used in moderation. If you consider all the extra food we eat, then smoking suddenly doesn't seem so bad. ~;)
I like smoking once in a while. I never do it regularly, but when I'm with friends it's more enjoyable just because of the company.

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Originally Posted by PanzerJager

Suddenly I found myself spending a whole lot of money with a rather pathetic group of people doing things I would never do sober with people I would never do those things with, and then ending the night throwing up all over someone elses house or lawn.

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Sounds familiar. That sort of thing is soooo rampant where I live. For some time I wanted to be just like them just to fit in, and then I realized what a huge waste of life and brain cells it was.

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You are wise beyond your years my friend.

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Why thank you ~:)

I am surprised. At the moment each option has recieved roughly a quarter of the votes.

I'm not surprised that nearly a quarter of the backroom is too drunk.

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I'm not surprised that nearly a quarter of the backroom is too drunk.

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We are in a tavern..

Alcohol is neither good or bad it simply is. The problem is with the people and most of those who are out drinking and fighting would be fighting whether they drank or not.

Saying that I have found that I drink less and less as I get older, now I'm 30 I only go out about once every 3 weeks, when I do I get drunk though. I usually tend to leave earlyas well, when people are starting to bug me it's time to go home. ~:cheers:

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I used to drink a fair bit but it lead to nothing good. Sure I wasnt my shy self, but the "friends" i made didnt enjoy my company unless i was intoxicated.. they werent real friends

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Real friends are the ones who will put up with you EVEN if you're drunk.

In the end they won't ban alcohol, and neither should they, but they may impose stiffer penalties for those causing aggravation while drunk.

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Originally Posted by Ja'chyra

Alcohol is neither good or bad it simply is.

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I disagree. Booze is good. It tastes good and it feels good. If you can control your booze instead of your booze controlling you, you can have a lot of fun with it and it is a useful tool to give you pleasure along the road of life.

Those high school nights drinking beer.
That night in the hotel with the brunette and the Pouilly Fuissee.
The amazing history book your read while sipping expensive bourbon.
The bottle of champagne with just you and the other brunette at New Years.
The icy Corona after a brutal day's work.
The Baileys on the plush carpet by the fire with the blond.

Booze... is good!

For my part I drink every single day. One beer. Sometimes two. Almost never three, maybe twice a month. Perhaps four times a year I'll buy a bottle of expensive bourbon and then I drink like a fish for four days. After that, it's back to the one beer a night.

Difficult to answer - while it is undeniable that alcohol makes terrible people of some people, I mostly have to agree with Beirut.
As long as you drink to enjoy and stop while you still enjoy it (i.e., not drinking yourself silly) - there are just two many occasions that just do not seem quite right for me without an alcoholic beverage

I have a hard time imagining a good diner with Mrs. Clegane or with friends without having some good wine.

A nice barbecue on a summer evening without some cold beer would only be half the fun (at best).

Having a good talk with a good friend over a couple of glasses of Single Malt...

So for me it makes the world a bit more enjoyable and better in specific moments - unfortunately that is not the truth for all people.

i got all the drunken stupidity out of me when i was in college... then it was all about binge drinking and having a blast with friends who were equally as drunk. it might not have been the most healthy of activities and i prolly should have been dead several times over, but the fun and debauchery were well worth it now, and i'll have things to chucle at when i'm grey....

now i'm older and supposedly wiser...

i try not to drink to excess, but i can still pack em away.

now brew my own ales, and i must tell you alcohol is good and a very important part of human history... some of the oldest recipes in the world are for beer as are some of the oldest laws...

get drunk, so that you may not be the martyred slaves of time...

Alchohol Good!

As a Swede with big beard in a viking metal band once said...

"Beer is the source of all poetry knowledge".

Alcohol is good. It brings out the real person in everyone. It allows the jerks to reveal themselves. It makes everything way funnier. It allows you to pull off some crazy Kung Fu moves. There is nothing it can't do.

I think even a binge is good; since even moderation must be taken in moderation. Besides, even moderate doses of cyanide are good for you.

Lastly, "alcohol" is the oldest word in the English language. If man has been doing it for longer than any other tradition we still have (other than..breeding), can it really be bad?

There is nothing bad with alchohol. As usually people make things complicated.
There is nothing bad enjoying some drinks with the company of some old friends or your girl. Either during a night out or having a barbeque in your yard. Having ice cold homemade wine while attacking the first done steak while its still on grill (the first is for the cooks as we say in my company).

Drinking is a part of social contact since ancient years. But it also differs for each man and each culture. For example not anybody can drink the same. I have friends that explode to space with a glass of beer. I for example can drink alot without losing control.

Generally i believe that its good to drink to the point you are having good time. Going out just to get drunk is stupid and causes only problems. But again culture plays role. When i ve been in east Ukraine first time i had never seen before so many drunk people or people drinking so much at any time of day. In Amsterdam i still recall english tourists going out just to get drunk and make noise. Maybe i generalizing but i talk through my experiences. Prohibiting alchohol i think you just make it more important than it is. Here in greece the ''leagal'' age for having alchohol in a club is 18. But its almost never in use those laws since you dont need id to get in. In liquor shops or supermarkets you can buy drinks at any age. Cause simply people assume its not for you plus a 15 year old having a beer its not consider a crime socially (not legally). Well guess what we dont have serious problem of drinking teens and people in general.

My parents since i was 12 me and my bro when we had family reunions or dinners they always filled a little glass with few sips of wine or beer for us. It was basically nothing but it gave us the illusion of participation and it took the ''forbidden'' glam from alchohol. Growing up we could have a full glass and so on. In that way i never felt alchohol was something special. I never felt that ''i have to drink like animal now that nobody sees me from family''.
Here when we finish school we go a 5 day excursion on some island with some escorting proffessors. As you understand its the chance every oppressed teen waited. Everybody drinks and many more. I was one of the few that stopped drinking when should. The rest had never a drink and as its so easy they got wasted. I knew my limits and more important i was not eager to drink

If you think drink will soften your problems you are wrong. If you think it can turn you to cazanova you are wrong. if you think you will become soul of the company when before you were hardly noticed you are wrong. If you think you will forget YOU ARE DEAD WRONG.

I think it doesnt need prohibitation. Just education. As everything else

*hic*

Alcohol = fun

*hic*

I don't drink, but I hardly think it's bad.

It depends what drink we are talking about and in what amount. I don't mind the odd drink most probably spirits either southern comfort or JD but not beer, i can't abide it and I only drink if i go out clubbing but there is nothing worse than if your are sober and being near any town on a friday or saturday night. The loutish behaviour of people who have made themselves totally and utterly pissed off there heads is totally vulgar.

BKB has a point. Drunken louts, especially at sporing events or concerts are quite annoying some times.

I am allergic to alchohol, I will puke if I consume minute quantities. I have seen enough drunnken louts to last a lifetime (I go to church and hang around in Soho...well Oxford Street...long story.)

I nevertheless have seen that a good bit of fun is never wrong, in moderatin it lifts the mood at a party (and makes girls ever so slightly easier as I am sober... ~D) but seriously, nothing wrong with it in moderation. I am not condoning alchoholism or overdrinking in any way...I have seen what binging maniacs do (hinthint houseparties.)

GAH! I`m underage for drinking! Where is that option?? :inquisitive:

Since when has that mattered in most places? ~:cheers:

Alcohol is wheter Good nor Bad. It depends on the Person.

I normally drink Beer or Mead. A Mix with 3/4 Beer and 1/4 Mead does also taste very fine.

Mankind did always drink alcohol with their drinks, there is no reason why it would change.

And to the Moralist Faction: Jesus loves Wine! He loved Wine so much he turned Water into Wine. The thing he did with his Fellows on his last day was to drink a Wine with them.

WWJD: :phonecall: ~:cheers: :medievalcheers:

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Originally Posted by Stefan the Berserker

Alcohol is wheter Good nor Bad. It depends on the Person.

I normally drink Beer or Mead. A Mix with 3/4 Beer and 1/4 Mead does also taste very fine.

Mankind did always drink alcohol with their drinks, there is no reason why it would change.

And to the Moralist Faction: Jesus loves Wine! He loved Wine so much he turned Water into Wine. The thing he did with his Fellows on his last day was to drink a Wine with them.

WWJD: :phonecall: ~:cheers: :medievalcheers:

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I ve never tasted mead. i would be very interested to but.. cant find it here.... anybody for uzo?

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Originally Posted by Idomeneas

I ve never tasted mead. i would be very interested to but.. cant find it here.... anybody for uzo?

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I think probably because it is mostly consumed in Scandinavia and North Germany, rarely in the Netherlands. Other Countries do normally not produce Mead nor do they consume it.

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anybody for uzo?

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Eugh... that stuff is the perfect way to ruin a good cocktail.

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Originally Posted by Idomeneas

anybody for uzo?

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Not very often - but if I go out to have Greek food it is a "must have" ~:cool:

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Originally Posted by Idomeneas

I ve never tasted mead. i would be very interested to but.. cant find it here.... anybody for uzo?

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Your best bet for mead is to make it yourself. If you have ever made beer, mead is not difficult. Drinking mead for a month is where the term "honeymoon" comes from. The high acidity supposedly gives you a better chance for male offspring. :medievalcheers:

I have to say I am still pretty surprised by the results of this poll.

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Originally Posted by Ser Clegane

Not very often - but if I go out to have Greek food it is a "must have" ~:cool:

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Is that a very strong greek pepermint alchohol that tastes like rubbing alcohol with a mint desolved in it? If so, gimme all ya got!

I dont drink and i never want to. But I am not going to stop other people from doing so.

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Originally Posted by Kaiser of Arabia

Is that a very strong greek pepermint alchohol that tastes like rubbing alcohol with a mint desolved in it? If so, gimme all ya got!

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I wouldn't say peppermint - it's an anise-flavoured liquor (so it actually tastes a bit like licorice) which would be similar to the Turkish Raki or the French Pernod

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Originally Posted by TonyJ

I agree with you that moderation and self control is the key.

** sips glass of 2001 Chianti Colli Senesi in dignified fashion **

I also agree with you about the dangerous degree to which binge drinking has taken over our town and city centres here in the past few years.

I lived in Manchester for twelve years and used to regularly go to the many clubs and bars there and always had a great time - same when I lived in Liverpool. I never saw any trouble despite all my small-minded stay at home Welsh friends going on and on about how rough the cities were (never having been there of course).

I came back to South Wales in 2003 and was truly gobsmacked as to what went on in the drinking areas of Swansea. There is one famous street that when I left was the banking centre of the city - now it is all bars and restaurants. Now there is nothing wrong with that per se - Wind St on a sunny Friday/Saturday night with couples and families enjoying a meal or an evening drink is lovely, but come 2 - 3am the place is (pardon my vernacular) a sh*thole.

Gaggles of seriously drunk women who can barely talk, agressive bunches of louts who have come to Swansea for a 'good fight' have taken over the place. Not nice :no:

But what can be done? I personally believe that education is critical and unless teenagers are brought up to respect alcohol and the lovely, lovely effects it has then there is no hope really. Yes, I used to get p*issed in my local at 17 and 18 but I was sent home at 11.30 with a boot up the arse from the landlord.

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this may sound like the cruelest and worst most wrongest thing to say, but it sounds to me like you need another jack the ripper. And try to take me seriously when I say that, I mean think about it: Before jack the ripper prostitution was at an all time high and after 11:00pm you couldn't take three steps without running into a hooker. But when jack the ripper made his appearence, prostitution shot down by over 75%. They were scared to death of it.

If you had one of him now, I would bet you everyone would be out of the bars before dark. And think, killing a drunk man or woman must be far easier than killing a prostitute. :duel:

BUT if you want a actual answer, you need way more police, for instance in Japan criminal capture rate is above 90% I believe it was 97% of all people who comit a crime are cought. that is in large part due to the second world war, now they really can't have a large army, because of the war, but now they have a very very large {and very well armed} police force. But I still think jack the ripper would be easier... <_<

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Originally Posted by Ser Clegane

I wouldn't say peppermint - it's an anise-flavoured liquor (so it actually tastes a bit like licorice) which would be similar to the Turkish Raki or the French Pernod

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raki is not so similar, only in matter of strength maybe. Raki is something like vodka or more accuratelly the home made russian samagone. Uzo is flavoured with ΓΛΥΚΑΝΙΣΟ glikaniso as we call it (i dont know the english word) Its easy to get drunk as its smooth to drink especially with ice in summer. If you enjoy it with good company in a good sea by taverna along with roast octapus with oregano and vinegar, then my friend you feel like king ~:)

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Originally Posted by Ser Clegane

I wouldn't say peppermint - it's an anise-flavoured liquor (so it actually tastes a bit like licorice) which would be similar to the Turkish Raki or the French Pernod

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That's it...that crap is GOOOOD.
Not as good as Schnopz though. Anyone ever fly drunk? I plan to on thurs lol.

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Not as good as Schnopz though. Anyone ever fly drunk? I plan to on thurs lol.

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On my flight to Ηράκλειο, the woman sat opposite me said she was afraid of flying. When the serving cart came by she ordered 12 minatures (about 50cl each). I thought they were for her friends to share too. She downed them all in about 5 minutes. Eesh - I can't decide if that's an argument for or against alcohol.

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Originally Posted by Ser Clegane

I wouldn't say peppermint - it's an anise-flavoured liquor (so it actually tastes a bit like licorice) which would be similar to the Turkish Raki or the French Pernod

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They taste good, by be aware not to drink to much, it's a real killer to vomit anise flavor..... ~;)

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Originally Posted by bmolsson

it's a real killer to vomit anise flavor..... ~;)

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:thinking: I'm not quite sure if I have any favourite vomit flavours - but it does not sound like I would like to try :tongue3:

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Originally Posted by Al Khalifah

On my flight to Ηράκλειο, the woman sat opposite me said she was afraid of flying. When the serving cart came by she ordered 12 minatures (about 50cl each). I thought they were for her friends to share too. She downed them all in about 5 minutes. Eesh - I can't decide if that's an argument for or against alcohol.

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That's pretty funny. I do that sometimes when I'm in the theater and there's few people around to see me. Well actually me and my friends rarely go to the theater undrunkened, lol. It's become a custom ever since my friend brodie invented it. We chug down like 4 beers and we're made. ~:cheers:

I'd be afraid of doing that. I might run on stage and join in.

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Originally Posted by Ser Clegane

:thinking: I'm not quite sure if I have any favourite vomit flavours - but it does not sound like I would like to try :tongue3:

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Peppermint Schnapps - tastes almost as good coming up as it does going down. ~D Minty fresh!