Veeery true.
Priests, especially the Catholics and even the Orthodox ones, often molestate kids. Bleah.
Here's the thread to discuss this.
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Veeery true.
Priests, especially the Catholics and even the Orthodox ones, often molestate kids. Bleah.
Here's the thread to discuss this.
Because they have a mental problem that they or their parents think that the church can cure them of, of course there wrong. But that isn't the problem, the problem is the church protecting them.
BS ...your average priest is not some pedo...Good priest are not mentioned often because thats not as good of a story for the news "as the molester who deserves to be shot priest."
Who says they don't?
The question is why priests, of all people, seek satisfaction in this inappropriate way?
Is it easier to keep it secret with choir-boys than with for example prostitutes or callboys?
Everybody knows that only Catholic & Orthodox priests molest children. In the entire history of mankind, no schoolteacher, psychiatrist, nurse, doctor, or anyone else who works with children has ever molested a child, provided that they were secular humanists. My eyes are open! Screw all this freedom of religion crap!!! We MUST BAN RELIGION NOW!!! Do it to save the kids...
Secular humanism, in order to be tolerant, we have to ban all other viewpoints...
There are pedophiles in every aspect of society.
Priests are not to have a family because they are married to the church and their flock. They are supposed to be dedicated fully to those.
Many protestant denominations do not support that view.
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Originally Posted by Don Corleone
Imo the reason you only here about priests molesting boys is because the boys are usaully altar boys or something of that nature and therefore make an easier target
That's a filthy lie!!! Only Christians molest children, especially the Catholic & Orthodox priests. I know this is true, because I read it on the Daily Kos. I think the Guardian is doing a series of front page exposes next week proving that only Christians, especially priests, molest children.Quote:
Originally Posted by PanzerJager
BTW Orthodox priests, who can get married unlike catholic ones, are mostly into other men than to children. One needs just take a look at mount Athos were women are not allowed to go and only male monks live, needless to say it WAS the place to go if you were gay, for centuries. Of course nowadays the monopoly was lost to places like Myconos which are more accesible and offer better choices of accomodation...
...btw sorry abt this silly thread. its my fault :-/
Hehe Don. ~;)
Id just like to add one more thing..
Im not Catholic and not particularly religious, but Ive seen the good work Catholic priests do. These people live their lives in some of the worst places on the globe trying to help people. Theres no glory, no self importance, and virtually no chance for advancement in many of the diocese in Africa and South America - only self sacrifice.
I had to go to Mexico for a mission trip as I went to a Catholic high school, and it was horrible. I didnt want to go, and I hated every minute of it. The priest had been there for 20 something years.. He was white, and it was obvious from his accent that he didnt have to be there, but he felt Jesus wanted him to help the poor. And help he did... The church was the sole charity in the community and the only thing keeping several thousand children and sick people alive. That man got up every day and gave all he had to the poor. He had no electronics, and no nice things. The funny thing is, we werent even in what was considered a "bad" diocese.
So before people start getting carried away with their broad brushes, remember the vast majority of priests who do not molest, but sacrifice themselves for the welfare of others.
Not silly at all Rasa. We all know how vile and evil all priests are.
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Originally Posted by Don Corleone
I think the orthodox ones kinda are...
When I hear them say things like
' And what is the problem with almost all of us owning Mercedes cars, everyone has mercedes cars today'
...or when they wear garments that can cost up to 50.000 euros...
...or when they talk about how they should run the place...
...they are just totally cut off from reality...
...I prefer catholic priests to be honest. They do look more down to earth.
Did the thread starter ever think about all the priestly affairs with women which are not reported in the media?
This let alone all the homosexual activity in the rest of society.
I'd wonder what the incidence of pedophilia and homosexuality amongst the clergy is compared to the general populace, I would imagine if not the same it is probbaly lower.
I think the only thing outrageous about the whole matter, is the way it was covered up in many cases, but then many organisations have done that in the past an continue to do so from schools, to hospitals etc.
I think the media likes bashing the Church and I know that certain closet anti-religious bigots certainly do.
Don't be ridiculous, you're halfway there. We all know that Catholic priests are all a pack of pedophiles, and have an elaborate plot to manipulate their parishoners to control politics. "NO RELIGION" is the only way to go. Do it for the kids...Quote:
Originally Posted by rasoforos
lol panz don is taking the piss ;)
No, no, no!!! CBS News did a documentary on the priest abuse scandal, and they never once showed anybody except for priests molesting children, so they must be the only ones that do it. The answer is, NO RELIGION ALLOWED.Quote:
Originally Posted by Es Arkajae
You are joking right don..................................................... :help:
If I met a Catholic priest who was banging a woman, I would be elated. It would mean he's not crazy to follow that stupid ass chastity thing and has he's not a pedophileQuote:
Originally Posted by Es Arkajae
And if I met one who was driving a Mercedes, I would be equally elated. It would mean he's not crazy enough to follow that whole stupid ass poverty thing and isn't wasting his time helping the poor.Quote:
Originally Posted by lars573
It's not a sin to be rich. No matter what Christ (if he existed) said.
Absolutely, Lars. That's the problem with all these Christians. They listen to what Christ said... they ought to pay more attention to MTV & CNN and screw the bible.Quote:
Originally Posted by lars573
Exactly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Don Corleone
HAY don't say that lars dont say that about the bible. You dont see me saying "you are a worthless heathen and are going to burn in hell" now do you .... Atheist act like they are so superior and intellectual and you act like you are better then christians what happened to all that equality you lefties claim to have. Only tolerant when it suits you i see :furious3: "
I am going to be intolerant towards intolerant people.
Moderator Note:: as long as your intolerance toward intolerance is within forum rules...OK. ~Kukri
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Originally Posted by Don Corleone
not to sure about the mtv thing...but it would be nonetheless a step in the right direction.
as for why so many priests molest kids....well you gotta be a little screwy in the head to want to become a priest in the first place....so i don´t see how 100% perfect behaviour can be expected..
Nah, most Catholic priests are not vile and evil.
Many are just your average religious homosexuals with initially modest sexual desires. But they have grown up with a religion that tells them that their desire is dirty and evil. One can only try to balance the two for so long. The easiest way out of the dilemma is to give up either your religion or your sexuality.
Many priests are priests just to end their confusion and guilt. They want to end their guilty feeling by becoming more pious, which makes them less likely to develop their only natural sexuality, which increase their guilt and confusion etc. Until eventually they have become their own oppressors.
But the nature of human biology is such that you cannot suppress your sexuality indefinately. And the more you suppress it, the more likely it is to pop up in extreme and perverse ways...
How can you be screwy in the head to be a preist....heck I used to want to be one.
Okay Don, we get it. Christians are an underpowered, softspoken minority being persecuted by the secular majority. Our bad.Quote:
Originally Posted by Don Corleone
Oh, wait.
Hang on.
A Christian-dominated party now controls two of the three branches of government in the most powerful country in the world.
I take back what I said earlier, and replace it with "Please stop your bloody whining."
Said with all due respect, of course...
:bow:
Oh loui how did you jump into the mind of a preist all of the sudden.....an atheist trying to say he knows how preist think. :help:
And goof if you remember right those christians were elected.
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Originally Posted by ceasar010
i say that choosing to follow a path of repression of your most basic biological and human instincts is a bit on the loony side...but feel free to use whatever euphemism you find more agreeable.
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Originally Posted by ceasar010
yeah they were.....that leads to the point you have to decide....you are either the majority or you can whine about being opressed...
you can´t have your cake and eat it too.
You need help son.Quote:
not to sure about the mtv thing...but it would be nonetheless a step in the right direction.
I think the percentage is about the same as in the general public but far below the percentage of gay men who are pedophiles.Quote:
as for why so many priests molest kids..
What world are you living in? Many married people are pedophiles. Just because you have sex with a woman doesnt mean your not a pedophile or even gay or heterosexual.Quote:
If I met a Catholic priest who was banging a woman, I would be elated. It would mean he's not crazy to follow that stupid ass chastity thing and has he's not a pedophile
The reason this is a big story is because their preists and held to a higher standard. That and the church trying to cover it up.
Is not that we should ban Religion Don...it's that we should ban these stupid divisions in Christianity, We all beleive in Jesus...GET OVER IT!
Yes everyone back to the original. The Roman Catholic church.Quote:
Is not that we should ban Religion Don...it's that we should ban these stupid divisions in Christianity, We all beleive in Jesus...GET OVER IT!
Who said I was atheist? It wasn't me. Remember assumptions make an ass out of you and me. ~;) Also if I believed in hell, I might agree with you on that one. I'm simply not christian anymore, I gave it up as a bad habit years ago. But neither am I buddist, muslim, jewish, or hindu (although it's looking better and better).Quote:
Originally Posted by ceasar010
I'm not whining.Quote:
Originally Posted by Goofball
Our White House & our Congress are the lackeys of the Supreme Court, as it should be.
The Constitution says whatever Ruth Bader Ginsburg & her crew say it does, as it should be.
The courts have a decidedly anti-religious slant, as it should be.
Religious persuasion is an evil & pernicious influence and must be eradicated at all levels. It's taken them a long time to get it together, but now that they have all the necessary pieces in place, the US court system is in the process of doing just that. Hoorah for progress! Maybe we could institute some of Robespierre's other lessons for how to run a happy state.
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Originally Posted by Gawain of Orkeny
hey....mtv wouldn´t be my personal choise....
maybe the discovery channel, and a good news agency(BBC maybe), as for music stop by your local store and pick up a good selection(tv and radio only play crap anyway)...any kind you like....
stepping away from an old book that nobody is even sure by whom it was wriiten and stepping a little closer to the real world is always a good move in my book..
i need help?...i disagree.
How is this thread not closed yet? Geesh.
Anyway, I'm sure Priests like women too... but I think in the Catholic church they do more with boys (no, you preverts, not like that). Choir boys, lighting candles etc.
And there are bad apples everywhere. But why the Catholic church won't let their men get married is beyond me.
Azi
Killing anyone who harms my wife or children with my bare hands is equally pre-programmed. But nobody is advocating I should just go ahead and do that, because it's part of my biological nature.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ronin
I am. So ha!Quote:
Originally Posted by Don Corleone
Man, if rampant vigilantism is the rule of law up there, remind me to stay the hell out of the Maritimes....Quote:
Originally Posted by lars573
If you cannot control all your animal instincts it wont be long until they put you away. Have fun in the slammer mate.Quote:
I am. So ha!
I like vigalantes as long as the get the right guy.
Depends on where you go. If you live in Preston they only call the police if someone is probably going to get beat to death. A little knuckle-duster is common enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by Don Corleone
Never said I couldn't. You've just made an ass out of both of us.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gawain of Orkeny
Moderator Note: It is an established backroom rule that we will not generally bash specific religions. So, do not. The thread starter posits that priests do not like women. Stay on that track, or the topic gets flushed.
Thanks for your consideration.
You realize that both major parties are Christian dominated don't you?Quote:
Originally Posted by Goofball
^^^^^^ = whiningQuote:
Originally Posted by Don Corleone
~;)
No you have managed to that all by yourself and only to yourself. Wasnt it you who claimed that we cant control our sexual urges forever and you in particular?Quote:
Never said I couldn't. You've just made an ass out of both of us.
Here's my impersonation of Goofball:Quote:
Originally Posted by Goofball
:speechless:
*With hands over ears...*
LA LA LA LA LA DON CORLEONE IS WHINING LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA I AM RIGHT LA LA LA LA LA LA LA DON CORLEONE IS WHINING LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA I AM NOT LISTENING TO HIM LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA
When you have something more constructive to add, or a more substantive rebuttal, be sure to let me know.
~:rolleyes: ~:rolleyes: ~:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by ceasar010
Now I won't stand for it, because I don't agree with it (the insult). But I really hope that this one was a intentional one ceasar. Not good in debates otherwise.
It was too good to let it pass. :bow:
On topic. Could someone actually post some statistics on this issue? I agree on Gawain that:
But it would be interesting compare it to other jobs, when it comes to this issue.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gawain of Orkeny
Amen. ~;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Goofball
It appears Don objects to the idea of separation of church and state. I have a hard time pointing out times I've been discriminated against as a Christian for practicing my faith. Yet, I can point out many times that "fellow" Christians have tried to force their particular beliefs on me in inappropriate settings. Of course, this isn't just social/private, it would include our President, and execs of companies I've worked for as well.
^^^^^^^^ = whining even harderQuote:
Originally Posted by Don Corleone
~D
Separation of church and state covers a lot of ground. I have no problems with keeping religious dogma out of a law making assembly. But telling kids they're not allowed to wish somebody Merry Christmas?Quote:
Originally Posted by Red Harvest
Stop putting words in my mouth. I'm not shy, and if I want to say I oppose the separation of church and state, I'll say it. Believe it or not, I don't need you to speak for me.
I'm not Catholic, but I find the original point of the thread and titles like this offensive simply because they are not even a fair depiction of the majority of those being lumped in the group. We have plenty of similar thread titles copied from blogs.
If you want to talk about the issue, wouldn't it make a lot more sense asking, "why have there been so many pedophile priests" or something like that?
On topic, but more in the vein of humor: At my best friend's Catholic wedding a decade before the pedophile priest crisis really was a common subject, I still remember my Catholic friends pointing to the various altar boys during rehearsal and snickering, "where priests go wrong."
I kind of think that's his entire point...Quote:
Originally Posted by ceasar010
IronSide I sent you a PM
Topic is obviously exhausted.
Closed.
Thanks to all contributors.