Out on DVD from play.com. A great film about the crusades, slightly panned for its historical innacuracy. If you like the sight of large armies clashing and city seiges this is the film for you.
~:cheers:
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Out on DVD from play.com. A great film about the crusades, slightly panned for its historical innacuracy. If you like the sight of large armies clashing and city seiges this is the film for you.
~:cheers:
Why is this here ??
And IMO KoH sucked badly.
erm, so people on this forum can check it out if they are interested.
It's about history. Ridley Scott directed it. Therefore, I'm interested. Thanks for the notice, Rebelscum.
Kingdom of Heaven has NO place in the Colisseum. Wrong era, wrong discussion, wrong setting, wrong forum.
Moved.
Cheers for the heads up, I thought it was still some way off.
Can't say I enjoyed the movie, but this was mainly due to Orlando Bloom's inability to carry such a part. Favourite part was the battle at the start in the forests and the sequences where Balian helped build up his land.
You don't have to be mean dude...Quote:
And IMO KoH sucked badly
To tell you the truth I think there were many times when the movie could have had clashing armies and such, but he didn't. I personally would say I liked it, because of the genre, but I don't think I'd buy it on DVD.
Thanks for the notice though! I'll be sure to spread the word!~:)
He couldn't carry it?!Quote:
Originally Posted by Geoffrey S
I beg to differ. His inherent looks of selfdoubt are in fact very in line with his character. He might not be a dialogist, but he is kept clear of that and allowed to be himself to a great extent. If that is not your view of the character then say so, but to say that Bloom didn't do what he was casted for with ample skill is simply wrong.
I do not say he was the best, but he was not wrong either.
Why is it, that every time we discuss Bloom, Di Caprio, Farrel or Pitt that they get a major axing? Hmm... Could it be that they have acted in girlfliks and are indeed quite handsome and have had their amount of success with the popularity of the fairer sex? Smells a whole lot like people can't stand that. I'll grant anyone that Farrel is not going to be a superb actor, neither perhaps Bloom (thought not a bad nor inept one either), but the other two can act and can act well.
Yes large armies that dont fight. The best scene was the one on one between the Christain and the Muslim on the desert. After that the film went down hill. I dispised the so called hero for what he did.Quote:
If you like the sight of large armies clashing and city seiges this is the film for you.
I'll be watching out to get the release.. Hurray !
LeftEyeNine, do you watch it in English? Or is there a version with Turkish subtitles or dubbing?
Azi
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I know at least one website (forum) where people voluntarily translate films and make downloadable subtitles.
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If you have'nt watched it, I'd recommend it. It's fantasy mostly but still it is surely intersting to watch for any MTW player.Quote:
Originally Posted by Doug-Thompson
Does this have any changes from the theatrical release? I was hoping they'd show more of the Battle of Hattin.
I also beg to differ. ~:)Quote:
Originally Posted by Kraxis
He wasn't bad, no. When he was not being a leader of large numbers of people the part suited him. Like I said, it worked at the start of the movie and throughout the sequence where he works his land. Where he started struggling was when he was portrayed as an inspiring figure and leader of Jerusalem; he simply didn't quite have the powerful acting to make that side of his character believable.
Really not knocking him. There are actors who would have (and have) done far worse, but this movie needed someone with a bit more strength to carry the film, and in that regard he didn't quite nail it.
Perhaps I should see the movie again; maybe without such high expectations as before I can enjoy it on it's own merits.
I haven't seen the film - what did he do that you despise? {Spoiler warning on...}Quote:
Originally Posted by Gawain of Orkeny
This is the theatrical release. My copy of Empire this month suggests that people may want to wait a while for the inevitable Director's Cut before deciding whether they would like to purchase the original or extended version.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hurin_Rules
Will be waiting for the longer one myself . . . ~:handball:
I like English dubbed - Turkish subbed movies - contributes to my English a lot. And I think I'll watch this the same way too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Azi Tohak
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Yes. I'll watch it as it is too, withut the subbies.
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I really liked KoH. ~:)
Good thing, I'll get the DVD....
My listening is not that perfect yet :embarassed:Quote:
Originally Posted by Mouzafphaerre
Other than the fact everyone I normally chat to is on here. Thanks for the nasty post on moving this as well, makes me feel really welcome.Quote:
Originally Posted by kekvitirae
The seige battle at the end was quite good. And yeah it is a pity those armies didn't clash when they met on the feild. It looked ripe for a good bit of carnage to me. :knight:Quote:
Originally Posted by Alexanderofmacedon
rebelscum, though I can relate to your reasoning, if everyone used the same criteria to determine in which forum they post all their topics, we'd have a mess on our hands. We have different forums to make it easier for people to find subjects that interest them. If I used your logic, I could open a thread to discuss the Green Bay Packers game last night here in the Monastery, but continuing this practice would eventually clutter the Monastery with non-historical threads. Her post may have been a little terse, but kekv was 100% correct in what she said. Besides, we moderators are human too - we have our less than Sterling moments every now and then...I had one a couple of days ago.:embarassed:Quote:
Originally Posted by rebelscum
That is all I ask for.Quote:
Originally Posted by Geoffrey S
My experience tells me that people tend to judge movies for their own views of the leading actor/actress. And in the case of the four actors I mentioned there tends to be a good deal of nosewrinkling, and when asked why they are just claimed to be bad. But bad acting is Mark Hamil or that girl (the main female character) from Blade II.
It seems I judged you a little too harshly.
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Originally Posted by LeftEyeNine
Neither is mine. ~;) I just push it forward.
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Pushing needs effort. Effort pumps adrenaline. Adrenaline drives me angry. I crash the DVD into pieces..:charge:
I currently prefer to get used to pronounciations of casual talk : Hear the words, watch the Turkish sub, guess the next one and see if the translator did it right ~D
I think I'll be able to improve my listening substantially only by talking the language with a native speaker. Practice makes sense..
*derails*
Oh sorry..
*pushes it back into track*
ARGH !
I wanna visit Turkey. So much ancient history! What part do you live in?
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It would be an honour to meet an orgah in real life. :bow:
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I live in Izmir (Smyrna, the old name). 3rd biggest city of Turkey which is located at the shores of Aegean Sea. Here is the map:
http://www.mat.usach.cl/histmat/imagenes/izmir.gif
Welcome in advance,
P.S. Don't forget your sunglasses. It's October and we're still dealing with sun here ~:cool: ~;)
Well LeftEyeNine, I hope I will be able to visit soon.
As for Mouzafphaerre, do you live in Turkey too?
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Originally Posted by LeftEyeNine
*jealous* t's already mid-autumn here.
Mouzafphaerre is an original native of Istanbul, "New Rome", or what remains of her. :bow:
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Mouzafphaerre, you are very right. To meet someone on these forums would be so great. It would be really exciting.
Unfortunetly, it's just not possible these days. You can't really trust anybody on here. I wish it were different.:bigcry: ~:mecry:
LeftEyeNine, that is really neat. I thought just being in Turkey was cool, but being on the Ionian coast[1] is awsome. It was part of Greece, and that's pretty neat. You visited the site of Troy?
[1]Is it called the Ionian coast? I'm about 99% sure, but not certain.
I live in Southern United States in the state of Texas
http://www.50states.com/us.htm
TX is the abreviation for Texas, BTW
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Ionian coast would be OK I think... But the proposed site of Troia is way upwards. Here's the Google Earth:
https://img147.imageshack.us/img147/...oast0wq.th.jpg
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Alexanderofmacedon,
Trusting is something that you take - all at own your risk. That's why I think it would be irrelevant to persuade you to visit Turkey. It's all about your choice. I'm strong, healthy and unbeaten yet here. ~D
Actually I was hardly ever out of my homecity, Aydin and my beloved Izmir. The site of Troy was in Canakkale wasn't it Mouzafphaerre (any abbreviation you use for your nick ?) ?
And you are very rightful to be jealous. It shill shines. I still wear short sleeves here ~:cool:
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Yes, in Çanakkale. (You can type the extended characters here, the forum is Unicode-able. ~;))
Abbreviate it to your liking. ~:)
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Ok Mouz!~;)
Yeah, I knew that, but it's still close considering I'm so many thousand miles away.Quote:
But the proposed site of Troia is way upwards
Sorry to dig up an old thread but I've got the Kingdom of Heaven Director's Cut on DVD (out today in USA) and I must say it has gone from being a rather mediocre film to a great one. 45 minutes are added to the film and it really needed them. The beginning is much more fleshed out and the new scenes help enhance the characters which was vital to the film. Whereas the Theatrical version seemed rushed and patched together, it was clearly cut to bits. This version of the film is far better and I'd give it at least a 9 as opposed to a 7 upon first release.
Sounds good - I was really looking forward to that one :2thumbsup:
Thanks for the update :bow:
Good to know. I rather liked the original, despite some awful dialogue ("I fought two days with an arrow in my testicles"). I particularly liked the acting - the chap who plays the warrior monk (and wryly raises his eyes when he hears the testicles line, as if to say "Here we go again") and of course Brendan Gleason ("Give me a war!" => "That is what I do").Quote:
Originally Posted by The Blind King of Bohemia
What is a KoH thread doing in the monastery!? :wall:
So that I'm not completely off topic: horrible movie!
Could someone please move this the the tavern? My mind bleeds!
All threads about historical movies are in here...'cause it's about history. No reason for it to be in the tavern.
BKB: still no Battle of Hattin ?
I'm afraid not....I guess they thought 3 battles in one film would be too much, or more likely the budget wouldn't stretch. Shame really.
I live very close to Ianofsmeg16 but I have never met him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mouzafphaerre
Back on topic, I enjoyed Kingdom of Heaven. It will tie in well with M2: TW
Darn, that's just sooo disappointing.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Blind King of Bohemia
I would have thought it better if it as mainly a Liam Neeson (I am a terrible speller) movie and not that other guy who, pardon, kind of reminds me of a woman with a drawn-on beard. I think his acting is pure trash. Fun movie though, as long as it is fun I don't care for historical accuracy. A good disclaimer is to always call something 'Historical Fiction'. You can get away with so much if you say that.
By the way, you Turks are close to me. I'm a couple hundred miles away, I live currently in Yerevan, though when I no longer have to serve I move to the family farm.
IrishArmenian, pay a visit if you come around :bow:
By the way, that was great news I was expecting eagerly about extended edition of KoH, thanks BKB. I was planning to watch it for the 3rd time, I think I'll rent the extended version then. w00t WooT ! :2thumbsup:
The First Crusade would make a much better movie then Kingdom of Heaven.
Does anyone know if there has ever been a movie on it through Crusader Eyes or is that too politically incorrect?