Strongbow Fitzgilbert

Has anyone else gotten this guy when you play as the English? Every campaign I play he comes up, usually about halfway through the Early period, he's always between a 5-7 star general and he's always leading a unit of FMAA. PLus he never appears when I'm traing troops on the British Isles, only when I train on the mainland.

I think I had that guy before. His birthyear is 1115. I don't know when he does appear though. He can appear in any England-owned provinces as he is set to appear anywhere in the defaultheroes.txt file.

Try to train just one unit in Wessex during his "appear-year" (since you seem to know).

Why is he called Strongbow Fitzgilbert when he leads FMAA? The name suggests he would be leading longbowmen.

I suppose the name is fixed, but the unit he´s assigned to is random.
Is there somewhere more info about the historic personalities you can get? Like, when and where can they appear, and perhaps some background infos?

I've had him 2 times. Once leading a unit of feudal spears ( made in mercia or Northumbria, the one with the +1 for billmen) and the other time he was leading FMAA from Normandy.

It could be that MAA are more likly to be a general than spears (Like pesants aren't usualy generals) but I could be wrong.

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Originally Posted by Ciaran

I suppose the name is fixed, but the unit he´s assigned to is random.
Is there somewhere more info about the historic personalities you can get? Like, when and where can they appear, and perhaps some background infos?

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Indeed. Strongbow FitzGilbert is one of the many historical heroes M:TW includes. They appear at a set date (16 years after their birth date) when you construct a unit. I know of two heroes listings: Ky Kiske's heroes list (M:TW only) and Nefarious' M:TW info pack (contains the heroes, provinces and GA of M:TW & VI, but does not tell you what the heroes stats are). You can find Nefarious e-mail adress in Froggy's M:TW beginner's guide, AFAIK it cannot be found anywhere on the internet. For background info you might try wikipedia.

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Originally Posted by Mr White

It could be that MAA are more likly to be a general than spears (Like pesants aren't usualy generals) but I could be wrong.

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You are right, but the general appears in whatever unit is finished on the turn of his appearance. If multiple units are build, he pick the unit that is "preffered" for generals by the unit files.

I know about Nefarious´ info pack, the problem is, it´s kind of quite a while ago that he was active. So I was unsure whether to contact him, I thought that info was uploaded in some place or another. But it looks like I´ve got to give it a try and e-mail.

Ky Kiske's link isn't working. I guess it's old and been deleted or something. Could anyone else post up his heroes guide in here please?

Copied from Ky Kiske's list

Faction /Hero Name/Date(of birth)/ Command /Dread/ Piety/ Acumen /Type
Almohad >Ibn Mardanish 1147 3 2 5 4 General
>Yusuf-ben Yacub 1150 3 3 5 4 General
>Muhammad ibn Yacub 1179 4 3 5 4 General
>Ibn Said al Magrebi 1214 3 1 5 4 Emissary
>Ibn Al-Khatib 1305 3 0 5 5 Emissary

Byzantine >Theodosios Boradiotes 1130 1 1 4 4 Bishop
>Alexius Branas 1150 4 3 3 3 General
>Georgius Acropolites 1203 1 0 3 4 Emissary
>John Beccus 1235 1 2 5 4 Bishop
>Gregory Palamas 1296 1 0 7 3 Inquisitor
>George Sphrantzes 1401 1 1 3 4 Emissary

Danish >Saxo Grammaticus 1140 1 0 4 3 Bishop
>Snorri Sturluson 1178 3 1 3 3 General
>Ingrid Elovsdottir 1240 1 0 6 2 Inquisitor
>Bo Jonsson Grip 1315 1 2 3 7 General

Egyptian >Al-Afdal Shahinshah 1055 5 5 4 3 General
>Najamuddin Ilghazi of Aleppo 1080 3 5 4 4 General
>Nur al-Din 1119 5 5 4 4 General
>Asad al-Din Shirkoh 1149 4 3 4 2 General
>Sharaf ad Din 1175 2 3 4 6 General
>Fakhr ad-Din 1219 4 3 4 2 General
>Ibn Taymiya al-Harrani 1263 1 0 6 2 Inquisitor

English >Odon de Bayeux 1036 2 3 3 4 Bishop
>Tancred de Normandie 1078 3 3 3 3 General
>Odo Borleng 1080 3 4 3 2 General
>Strongbow FitzGilbert 1115 6 4 5 5 General
>Thomas Beckett 1118 1 1 6 3 Bishop
>John Mercadier 1145 2 7 3 4 General
>William Marshall 1147 4 3 3 5 General
>Blondel de Nesle" 1155 1 0 4 3 Emissary
>Simon de Montfort the Elder 1160 5 2 4 3 General
>Guy of Gisbourne 1190 3 2 2 2 Assassin
>Roger Mortimer 1287 3 6 2 4 General
>Hugh Calveley 1322 1 2 3 2 General
>John Hawkwood 1323 3 3 3 4 General
>Jean de Grailly 1330 4 3 3 2 General
>Robert Knollys 1331 3 5 3 4 General
>Geoffrey Chaucer 1340 1 0 3 2 Emissary
>Thomas Camoys 1360 3 3 4 3 General
>Henry Percy 1364 3 4 3 3 General
>John Talbot 1387 3 5 3 6 General
>Richard Neville 1418 3 4 3 6 General

French >Hugh of Cluny 1024 1 3 7 3 Inquisitor
>Baldwin of Boulogne 1058 4 3 5 4 General
>Godfrey of Bouillon 1060 4 4 5 4 General
>Bernard of Clairvaux 1090 1 5 5 5 Inquisitor
>Hugh de Payns 1095 3 4 5 4 General
>William of Ypres 1100 3 4 3 5 General
>Gerard de Ridefort 1145 2 4 4 4 General
>ChrQtien de Troyes 1150 1 0 4 3 Emissary
>Jean Cadoc 1175 3 5 2 3 General
>Jacques de Molay 1244 2 3 3 5 General
>Geoffrey de Charny 1305 2 2 3 2 General
>Bertrand du Guesclin 1320 3 3 3 3 General
>Jean Froissart 1333 1 0 4 0 Bishop
>Jean le Maingre Boucicault 1345 4 3 3 4 General
>Bertrand la Salle 1350 4 5 3 5 General
>Charles d'Albret 1370 2 2 3 3 General
>Arthur de Richmont 1375 3 3 3 3 General
Jean Bureau 1400 1 0 3 0 General
Jean de Bueil 1410 3 4 3 3 General
>Joan of Arc 1412 6 0 7 0 General

Faction Hero Name Date Command Dread Piety Acumen Type
GermanHRE >Albrecht der Bar 1100 3 2 2 3 General
>Henry the Lion 1129 3 4 3 4 General
>Heinrich von Morungen 1150 2 2 4 2 Emissary
>Hartmann von Aue 1155 2 2 4 4 General
>Herman von Salza 1160 3 5 6 4 General
>Walther von Vogelweide 1170 0 1 3 2 General
>Wolfram von Eschenbach 1171 0 1 3 2 Emissary
>Albertus Magnus 1200 1 3 5 3 Bishop
>Conrad of Marburg 1201 1 7 5 1 Inquisitor
>John of Bohemia 1310 2 2 3 1 General
>Winrich von Kniprode 1311 2 3 5 4 General
>Albert Sterz 1320 2 3 2 2 General
>Hannekin Bongarten 1330 2 3 2 2 General
>Werner von Lrslingen 1331 3 7 0 1 General
>Jan Zizka 1360 4 3 5 2 General

Italian >Bohemond de Tankerville 1050 4 4 2 1 General
>Boniface of Montferrat 1160 3 4 2 4 General
>Giovanni de Plano Carpini 1180 1 0 5 4 Emissary
>Francesco Petrach 1180 1 0 4 3 Emissary
>Francesco d'Assisi 1182 1 0 7 1 Inquisitor
>Ezzelino da Romano 1194 4 5 2 3 General
>Marco Polo 1254 3 0 3 5 Emissary
>Alighieri Dante 1265 1 0 4 3 Emissary
>Lodrisio Visconti 1280 3 5 2 2 General
>Catruccio Castracane 1282 3 3 3 4 General
>Hannekin Bongarten 1330 2 3 2 2 General
>Werner von Urslingen 1330 3 7 0 1 General
>Ambrogio Visconti 1334 3 4 2 4 General
>Alberigo da Barbiano 1340 4 4 3 4 General
>Jacopo dal Verme 1350 4 4 3 4 General
>Braccio da Montone 1368 4 3 1 3 General
>Muzio Attendolo 1369 4 5 2 4 General
>Francesco da Carmagnola 1380 4 3 2 1 General
>Bartolomeo Colleoni 1400 3 5 3 4 General
>Francesco Sforza 1401 3 5 3 5 General

Russian >Peter Petrovich 1258 1 2 5 2 Bishop
>Bartolomei Kirillovich 1314 1 0 5 4 Bishop

Polish >Zbigniew Oleshnicki 1389 1 0 5 3 Bishop

Spanish >Diego Gelmirez 1059 1 1 7 7 Cardinal
>Raimundo Diaz Bermejo 1125 1 0 6 5 Bishop
>Rodrigo Jimenez de Rada 1169 2 6 5 4 Bishop
>Domingo de Guzman 1170 1 3 7 4 Inquisitor
>Gonzalo de Berceo 1180 2 0 6 4 Bishop
>Ramon de Bonifaz 1196 2 6 3 5 General
>Frenando Martinez 1340 2 5 6 3 Inquisitor
>Alfonso de Guzman 1260 1 2 4 5 General
>Juan Ruiz 1282 3 0 3 3 Emissary
>Infante Juan Manuel 1283 2 3 4 3 General
>Ruy Gonzalez de Clavijo 1350 4 2 4 6 Emissary
>Blvaro de Luna 1400 1 0 4 6 General
>Jorge Manrique 1440 3 3 4 4 General
>Alonso de Espina 1441 3 5 5 7 Inquisitor
>Tomas de Torquemada 1420 1 7 5 4 Inquisitor
>Pedro de Mendoza 1428 3 4 3 7 Emissary

Turkish >Hasan-e Sabbah 1060 3 3 6 3 General
>Imad al-Din Zengi 1100 2 3 4 5 General
>Qara Timurtash 1101 3 4 5 3 General
>Qutb al-Din Aibak 1150 3 3 6 5 General
>Gazi Evrenos 1350 2 3 5 3 General

Hungarian >Jnnos Hunyadi 1387 4 4 4 3 General
>Vlad Tepes 1430 3 7 2 4 General

Faction Hero Name Date Command Dread Piety Acumen Type
Aragonese >Roger de Lauria 1250 3 4 4 4 General
>Raimundo de Penafort 1180 4 4 6 2 Inquisitor
>Raimundo Lulio 1235 3 1 4 4 Bishop
>Arnaldo de Vilanova 1238 3 0 3 3 Bishop
>Vincente Ferrer 1325 2 3 5 4 Inquisitor
>Enrique de Villena 1384 3 3 1 2 Emissary
>Ausias March 1397 3 2 2 2 General
>Pedro de Arbues 1435 4 1 5 2 Inquisitor

Burgundian >Jean de Montaigu 1345 3 4 3 3 General
>Jean de Vergy 1380 4 4 3 3 General


Novgorod >Domash Tverdislavich 1200 3 6 4 3 General

Papist >Peter of Verona 1185 1 2 6 2 Inquisitor
>Giles of Rome 1246 1 1 5 2 Bishop
>John de Monte Corvino 1247 1 1 6 3 Emissary
>Gil Alvarez Carillo 1310 4 3 4 3 General
>Cola di Rienzo 1313 1 1 4 1 Emissary

Sicilian >Roger de Hauteville 1040 4 5 3 4 General
>Roger de Flor 1208 3 7 1 4 General

Swiss >William Tell 1380 1 1 4 1 General
>Henry von Malters 1420 3 4 3 5 General

That list looks identical as the original list in default heroes. Which one isn't on the original list?

-edit-
Nevermind. I thought he added new heroes.

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Originally Posted by Ky Kiske

:p dont ask me, i just copied straigt from the file located at campmap/names in tw folder :)

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What's the deal with the Egyptian inquisitor? *scratches head*

Nefarious is from New Orleans and his home was pretty much destroyed, hence why he hasn't been online very often, aside from a couple of posts at the .c0mmie telling people that he and his family are ok.

Here's Nef's hero's list and is posted at the .c0mmie's Numerology thread.

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Originally Posted by Motorhead

/ originally compiled by Nefarious /
INTRODUCTION
The heroes within Medieval: Total War add a certain flare and color to the period. Some are well known by most, while others are completely unknown to all. In their time, however, these men and women truly affected the course of history through their deeds and ideals.
The contribution made by each is as varied as the factions in the game. There are robber barons, fearless glory-seekers, religious zealots, expert assault specialists, and bloody psychopaths, to name but a few. However, each trait can be used to your advantage within the game; especially if you know ‘who shows up when’. To this end, the following list has been compiled. The data used comes from the MTW files with VI loaded and patched to v2.01.

HEADINGS
Name: The hero’s name, as listed in the MTW files. The spellings are taken from the files, so the Scot Hero ‘William Wallace’ is actually ‘William Walays’.

Year: The year in which the Hero is born. This is good to know, as you can anticipate the arrival of an outstanding Army Leader/General in 16 years. Just like a Prince or Princess, you must wait for Generals to mature. If a hero’s year is listed before 793 in VI or before 1087 in MTW, then you should expect to see them upon starting the game. Otherwise, they should appear as soon as you train them.
Example: The French have Hugh de Cluny, an Inquisitor arriving in 1024. Since he appears before 1087, the first Inquisitor trained by France will be Hugh de Cluny.

Type: Tells you what they are. This could be a General, Emissary, Inquisitor, etc. Note that this column does not apply to Rebels or any VI factions. **** NOTE: All Rebels and VI faction Heroes are GENERALS. ****

Region: This column applies to REBELS ONLY. Rebels appear where listed, but specific faction heroes will appear anywhere within that faction.
Example: If you train any Assassin as the English after 1190 anywhere in your kingdom, you will get Guy of Gisbourne as your next Assassin.

V&V:[ Note that some non-general units are listed as having V&Vs, but this feature was not implemented in the game - Motorhead ] The starting Vice or Virtue of the hero. A few have no starting V or V and have a blank space in this column. I must admit that this listing was the most difficult. The files from which this document was compiled have listings such as ‘Bad Attacker2’ and ‘Zealot4’. It took quite some time to decipher and match these with the in-game descriptions. I’m about 98% sure that I have them right. If, however, a vice or virtue is slightly off during game play…give me a break. The listing will still give you a general idea of what type of hero you’re getting.

FOOTNOTES [ I didn't include the footnotes, but they can be found in MTW/campmap/names/ directory - Motorhead ]
There are some historical ‘blurbs’ about the heroes within the .txt files. At the end of each faction, these have been added, numerically. Not much is known about some, while others are quite famous. There are no footnotes for the VI era heroes. These footnotes have been included to give you a slight glimpse into the hero’s real life. Perhaps someone is about to emerge in your faction that you could use as a good General. By the same token, perhaps the AI has some Inquisitor that bares careful watching. Use the information to your advantage.
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=== MTW === HEROES ===
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**** NOTE: All Rebels and VI faction Heroes are GENERALS. ****
The Rebel Heroes
Name Year Region V & V
1. El Cid 1054 Valencia Expert Attacker
2. Mathilda de Boulogne 1102 Anjou Weak Sieger
3. Ivan Asen 1150 Bulgaria Skilled Attacker
4. Peter Asen 1151 Bulgaria Skilled Attacker
5. Leon Sgouros 1180 Greece Autocrat
6. Llewellyn ap Gruffydd 1190 Wales Skilled Attacker
7. Robin of Locksley 1191 Mercia Frequent Mercy
8. Fra Dolcino 1200 Milan Fanatic
9. Simon de Montfort the Younger 1208 Mercia Hard Sums
10. William Walays 1272 Scotland Brave Beyond Belief
11. Stephan Urosh Dushan 1300 Serbia Secret Paranoia
12. Black Agnes Dunbar 1310 Scotland Specialist Siege Defender
13. Etienne Marcel 1316 Ile de France Numerate
14. Philip van Artevelde 1340 Flanders
15. Wat Tyler 1351 Wessex Bad Attacker
16. Owain Glyndwr 1354 Wales Expert Defender
17. Klaus Stortebeker 1375 Saxony Brigand and Thief
18. Iskander Bey 1405 Croatia Scarred

The Almohad Heroes
Name Year Type V & V
1. Ibn Mardanish 1147 General
2. Yusuf-ben Yacub 1150 General Believer
3. Muhammad ibn Yacub 1179 General Poor Attacker
4. Ibn Said al Magrebi 1214 Emissary Highly Educated
5. Ibn Al-Khatib 1305 Emissary Highly Educated

The Byzantine Heroes
Name Year Type V & V
1. Theodosios Boradiotes 1130 Priest
2. Alexius Branas 1150 General Skilled Attacker
3. Georgius Acropolites 1203 Emissary
4. John Beccus 1235 Bishop Believer
5. Gregory Palamas 1296 Bishop Pious
6. George Sphrantzes 1401 Emissary

The Danish Heroes
Name Year Type V & V
1. Saxo Grammaticus 1140 Bishop Highly Educated
2. Snorri Sturluson 1178 General Educated
3. Ingrid Elovsdottir 1240 Inquisitor Pious
4. Bo Jonsson Grip 1315 General Lawman

The Egyptian Heroes
Name Year Type V & V
1. Al-Afdal Shahinshah 1055 General Utterly Fearless
2. Najamuddin Ilghazi of Aleppo 1080 General Utterly Fearless
3. Nur al-Din 1119 General Expert Attacker
4. Asad al-Din Shirkoh 1149 General Great Warrior
5. Sharaf ad-Din 1175 General
6. Fakhr ad-Din 1219 General Skilled Attacker
7. Ibn Taymiya al-Harrani 1263 Imam Zealot

The Turkish Heroes
Name Year Type V & V
1. Hasan-e Sabbah 1060 General Skilled Attacker
2. Imad al-Din Zengi 1100 General Man of Principle
3. Qara Timurtash 1101 General Skilled Attacker
4. Qutb al-Din Aibak 1150 General Devout
5. Gazi Evrenos 1350 General

The Polish Hero
Name Year Type V & V
1. Zbigniew Oleshnicki 1389 Bishop Believer

The English Heroes
Name Year Type V & V
1. Odon de Bayeux 1036 Bishop
2. Tancred de Normandie 1078 General Hard Sums
3. Odo Borleng 1080 General Captured
4. Strongbow FitzGilbert 1115 General Numerate
5. Thomas Beckett 1118 Bishop Believer
6. John Mercadier 1145 General Merciless
7. William Marshall 1147 General Mighty Warrior
8. Blondel de Nesle 1155 Emissary
9. Simon de Montfort the Elder 1160 General Tough Justice
10. Guy of Gisbourne 1190 Assassin Killer Instinct
11. Roger Mortimer 1287 General Secret Blood Lover
12. Hugh Calveley 1322 General Skilled Siege Defender
13. John Hawkwood 1323 General
14. Jean de Grailly 1330 General Skilled Attacker
15. Robert Knollys 1331 General Skilled Attacker
16. Geoffrey Chaucer 1340 Emissary Well Educated
17. Thomas Camoys 1360 General Skilled Attacker
18. Henry Percy 1364 General Mighty Warrior
19. John Talbot 1387 General Skilled Risky Attacks
20. Richard Neville 1418 General Famously Brave

The French Heroes
Name Year Type V & V
1. Hugh of Cluny 1024 Inquisitor Zealot
2. Baldwin of Boulogne 1058 General
3. Godfrey of Bouillon 1060 General Famously Brave
4. Bernard of Clairvaux 1090 Inquisitor True Zealot
5. Hugh de Payns 1095 General Great Warrior
6. William of Ypres 1100 General
7. Gerard de Ridefort 1145 General Poor Attacker
8. Chre’tien de Troyes 1150 Emissary
9. Jean Cadoc 1175 General Hard Sums
10. Jacques de Molay 1244 General Secret Heretic
11. Geoffrey de Charny 1305 General Famous Warrior
12. Bertrand de Guesclin 1320 General Captured
13. Jean Froissart 1333 Bishop Well Educated
14. Jean le Maingre Boucicault 1345 General Weak Attacker
15. Bertrand de la Salle 1350 General Famously Brave
16. Charles d’Albret 1370 General Great Warrior
17. Arthur de Richmont 1375 General Weak Defender
18. Jean Bureau 1400 General Specialist Sieger
19. Jean de Bueil 1410 General Skilled Assaulter
20. Joan of Arc 1412 General Truly Pious

The German Heroes
Name Year Type V & V
1. Albrecht der Bar 1100 General
2. Henry The Lion 1129 General Famously Brave
3. Heinrich von Morugen 1150 Emissary Literate
4. Hartmann von Aue 1155 General
5. Herman von Salza 1160 General Secret Pride
6. Walther von Vogelweide 1170 General Well Educated
7. Wolfram von Eschenbach 1171 Emissary Well Educated
8. Albertus Magnus 1200 Bishop Devout
9. Conrad of Marburg 1201 Inquisitor Tough Justice
10. John of Bohemia 1310 General Hideous Scars
11. Winrich von Kniprode 1311 General Honorable Warrior
12. Albert Sterz 1320 General Hard Sums
13. Hannekin Bongarten 1330 General Hard Sums
14. Werner von Urslingen 1331 General Butcher
15. Jan Zizka 1360 General Impressive Scars

The Russian Heroes
Name Year Type V & V
1. Domash Tverdislavich 1200 General
2. Peter Petrovich 1258 Bishop Fervent
3. Bartolomei Kirillovich 1314 Bishop Believer

The Italian Heroes
Name Year Type V & V
1. Bohemond de Tankerville 1050 General Hard Sums
2. Boniface of Montferrat 1160 General Skilled Assaulter
3. Giovanni de Plano Carpini 1180 Emissary Educated
4. Francesco Petrach 1180 Emissary Educated
5. Francesco d’Assisi 1182 Inquisitor Truly Pious
6. Ezzelino da Romano 1194 General Killer Instinct
7. Marco Polo 1254 Emissary Educated
8. Alighieri Dante’ 1265 Emissary
9. Lodrisio Visconti 1280 General Famously Brave
10. Catruccio Castracane 1282 General Secret Tyrant
11. Hannekin Bongarten 1330 General Hard Sums
12. Werner von Urslingen 1331 General Butcher
13. Ambrogio Visconti 1334 General Hard Sums
14. Alberigo da Barbiano 1340 General Expert Attacker
15. Jacopo dal Verme’ 1350 General Famously Brave
16. Braccio da Montone 1368 General Thinker
17. Muzio Attendolo 1369 General Skilled Assaulter
18. Francesco da Carmagnola 1380 General Skilled Defender
19. Bartolomeo Colleoni 1400 General
20. Francesco Sforza 1401 General

The Spanish Heroes
Name Year Type V & V
1. Diego Gelmirez 1059 Cardinal
2. Raimundo Diaz Bermejo 1125 Bishop Highly Educated
3. Rodrigo Jimenez de Rada 1169 Bishop
4. Domingo de Guzman 1170 Inquisitor Secret Blood Lover
5. Gonzalo de Berceo 1180 Bishop
6. Ramon de Bonifaz 1196 General Skilled Attacker
7. Alfonso de Guzman 1260 General Expert Defender
8. Juan Ruiz 1282 Emissary Well Educated
9. Juan Manuel Infante 1283 General Possessor of Books
10. Fernando Martinez 1340 Inquisitor
11. Ruy Gonzalez de Clavijo 1350 Emissary
12. Bl’varo de Luna 1400 General Vacillator
13. Toma’s de Torquemada 1420 Inquisitor Blood Lover
14. Pedro de Mendoza 1428 Emissary
15. Jorge Manrique 1440 General Skilled Attacker
16. Alonso de Espina 1441 Inquisitor Secret Blood Lover

The Sicilian Heroes
Name Year Type V & V
1. Roger de Hauteville 1040 General Expert Attacker
2. Roger de Flor 1208 General Numerate

The Aragonese Heroes
Name Year Type V & V
1. Raimundo de Penafort 1180 Inquisitor Pious
2. Raimundo Lulio 1235 Bishop Lover of Books
3. Arnaldo de Vilanova 1238 Bishop
4. Roger de Lauria 1250 General Skilled Assaulter
5. Vincente Ferrer 1325 Inquisitor
6. Enrique de Villena 1384 Emissary
7. Ausias March 1397 General Skilled Attacker
8. Pedro de Arbues 1435 Inquisitor

The Hungarian Heroes
Name Year Type V & V
1. Ja’nos Hunyadi 1387 General Skilled Attacker
2. Vlad Tepes 1430 General Butcher

The Papist Heroes
Name Year Type V & V
1. Peter of Verona 1185 Inquisitor True Zealot
2. Giles of Rome 1246 Bishop
3. John de Monte Corvino 1247 Emissary
4. Gil Alvarez Carillo 1310 General Believer
5. Cola di Rienzo 1313 Emissary

The Burgundian Heroes
Name Year Type V & V
1. Jean de Montaigu 1345 General
2. Jean de Vergy 1380 General Great Warrior

The Swiss Heroes
Name Year Type V & V
1. William Tell 1380 General Great Warrior
2. Henry von Malters 1420 General Hard Sums


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=== VI === HEROES ===
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**** NOTE: All Rebels and VI faction Heroes are GENERALS. ****
The Rebel Heroes
Name Year V & V
1. Rudderch of Strathclyde 760 Great Leader
2. Cynan of Srtathclyde 778 Argumentative
3. Artgal of Strathclyde 796 Expert Attacker
4. Run of Strathclyde 852 Quick Learner
5. Eochaid of Strathclyde 858 Impressive Scars
6. Llywarch ap Dyfed 864 Secret Murderer
7. Donald MacAed 888 Vaccilator

The Irish Heroes
Name Year V & V
1. Flann Sinna 883 Honest
2. Cormac MacCullenan 883 Devout
3. Mahon 925 Eloquent
4. Donovan 943 Educated
5. Maelmaud 943 Loyal
6. Mal Sechnaill 948 Secret Gambler
7. Maelmora 974 Man of Abiding Belief
8. Tadg O’Brian 992 Corrupt
9. Donnchad O’Brian 992 Publicly Generous

The Mercian Heroes
Name Year V & V
1. Aethelmund 776 Great Warrior
2. Oswulf 778 Scarred
3. Eanbehrt 784 Mighty Warrior
4. Eadwulf 788 Delegates Authority
5. Swithnoth 794 Hard Sums
6. Wistan 820 Pious
7. Aeflheah 822 Charismatic
8. Forthred 824 Philosophically Inclined
9. Egbert 825 Clever Assistants
10. Wulferd 846 Fervent
11. Wulflaf 848 Secret Kleptocracy
12. Eadric 858 Very Honest
13. Cuthluf 863 Most Loyal
14. Aethelwulf 864 Believer
15. Wulfgar 868 Most Eloquent
16. Aelfhere 980 Magnificent Steward
17. Leofric 980 Great Trader
18. Ealhhelm 894 Loyal

The Picts
Note: There are no heroes listed for the Picts.

The Northumbrian Heroes
Name Year V & V
1. Egbert of Bernicia 879 Great Builder
2. Eadwulf of Bernicia 880 Magnificent Builder
3. Oswulf Eadulfing 934 Impressive Scars
4. Uhtred Eadulfson 985 Mighty Warrior
5. Eadulf Cudel 996 Kleptocracy
6. Eadulf 1018 Blackmailer

The Scottish Heroes
Name Year V & V
1. Giric of Alba 858 Lawman
2. Eoghain MacDonald 903 Merciful
3. Dub MacMalcolm 924 Autocrat
4. Donald MacEoghain 942 Skilled Attacker
5. Malcolm MacDonald 955 Specialist Attacker
6. Eoghain MacDonald 977 Family Favorites
7. Duncan MacMalcolm 998 Art Lover

The Saxon Heroes
Name Year V & V
1. Wigferth 774 Well Educated
2. Lulla 780 Charitable
3. Eadgils 781 Loyal
4. Wulfheard 804 Highly Educated
5. Aetheric 810 Very Loyal
6. Eanwulf 822 Very Honest
7. Badanoth 825 Most Loyal
8. Ealhhere 830 Great Warrior
9. Ealdred 836 Very Charitable
10. Aelfstan 839 Secret Adultery
11. Osmund 840 Drinker
12. Dryhtwald 842 Secret Envy
13. Aethelwald 868 Avarice
14. Edwin 890 Pride
15. Wulfsige 914 Lazy
16. Brihtric 935 Gluttony
17. Wulfnoth of Sussex 962 Clever With Words
18. Godwin of Wessex 987 Silver Tongued
19. Tostig Godwinson 1026 Secret Envy

The Viking Heroes
Name Year V & V
1. Turgeis 819 Exclusive Trader
2. Olaf the White 826 Tough Justice
3. Hastein 839 Hard to Kill
4. Nadd-Odd 840 Famously Brave
5. Gardar 840 Great Warrior
6. Floki 850 Killer Instinct
7. Gunnbjorn 880 Mighty Warrior
8. Erik the Red 962 Great Trader
9. Bjarni Herjolfsson 966 Magnificent Trader
10. Leif Ericsson 972 Magnificent Trader
11. Olaf Tryggvason 974 Right Hand Man
12. Thorfinn Karlsefni 975 Deep Thinker
13. Olaf the Stout 989 Specialist Attacker
14. Sigtrygg Silky Beard 992 Tyrant
15. Magnus 1025 Most Eloquent

The Welsh Heroes
Name Year V & V
1. Idwal ap Anarwd 883 Man of Heartfelt Faith
2. Hywel ap Cadell 889 Lawman
3. Iago ap Idwal 908 Smuggler
4. Ieuaf ap Idwal 915 Secret Smuggler
5. Maredudd ap Owain 943 Legendary Leader
6. Cadwallon ap Ieuaf 965 Delegates Authority
7. Cynan ap Hywel 979 Charismatic
8. Gruffydd ap Cynan 1055 Scholastic

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Once again, a load of thank to Nefarious for putting together the original list.

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I think the Egyptian Inquisitor is a typo for Alim.

He was a Norman border baron on the welsh frontier. He was the leader of the Norman mercenary faction that was brought to Ireland by Dermot McMurrough to reclaim the Kingdom of Leinster.
As I understand it, most Knights would have been handy with a bow, this guy especially, hence the moniker, but he was definetley a bonafide Norman Knight.

Thanks folks, appreciate it.

Check out this link:

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=24908

This is a pretty good list, and Rocket Boy does some 'splaining after the listings as to who the people were.

Nice link. But where´s Saladin (Yussuf ibn Ayyub), I thought he was a hero in the campaign as well ~:confused: Then again, Richard the Lionhearted, Frederick II and Edward the black prince are missing in the campaign as well.

And wasn´t Nur al`Din Saladin´s uncle? I think I read so. Btw, according to the same source, Saladin was a Kurd from Tikrit.

I liked this one, however:

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"William","Walays", 1272, # 5,4,3,2,7, fearsome3, GENERAL,ID_SCOTLAND, -1 //Mel Gibson

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"TomNs","de Torquemada",1420, 1,7,5,4,7, prisoner_killer3, INQUISITOR, ID_LIMBO, -1 //Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition

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"Vlad", "Tepes", 1430, 3,7,2,4,0, butcher, GENERAL, ID_LIMBO, -1 //Christopher Lee

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Which Dracula movie has Christopher Lee staring, by the way?

Dracula, Prince of Darkness (1966), but he was in at least five more!

i read a very good biography of Saladin recently...Nurreddin (or Nur-ad'din...or Nur-al'din!) was Saladin's overlord, but his uncle was Shirkuh, who preceded Saladin as Vizier of Egypt.

haven't tried the campaign stuff yet, must give it a go.

According to the old discussion Richard, Saladin and Barbarossa appear as royals, not regular heroes. Al Nasir is Saladin. Richard I is..well, Richard Lionhearted (see vice&virtue) and Frederick II is Frederick Barbarossa. It's also mentioned in those links above.

I've found some info about Richard "Strongbow" Fitzgilbert.

He was an english campaigner in Ireland anmd subsquently became the Irish king ! Take a look.

http://www.irelandseye.com/aarticles...es/norman.shtm

Nope, King of Leinster. He married Mc Murrough's daughter and was adopted as heir.

Where's Leinster ?

Leinster (Laighin or Laigin in irish) is the eastern province of Ireland, facing across the Irish sea towards wales. it has the capital of the republic of Ireland, Dublin, in it.

http://www.euratlas.com/time/nw1100.htm
Take a look there, show the political disposition around 1100, before the Normans arrived.

~:cheers:

very useful!

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I found it in a monastery thread. All of Europe in hundred year jumps.

I can't seem to figure out how to look at anything but NW Europe.

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I can't seem to figure out how to look at anything but NW Europe.

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Well, it is a historic map of Northwest Europe, so that would make sense.


But if you want to see their other maps, click on the little icon with the A in the upper left hand corner.


Also, I have a question.

Is it Strongbow as in Bow and Arrow or Taking a bow after a good performance? Or maybe he liked to wear bows in his hair, and if you laughed at them he'd punch your lights out.

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Well, it is a historic map of Northwest Europe, so that would make sense.


But if you want to see their other maps, click on the little icon with the A in the upper left hand corner.


Also, I have a question.

Is it Strongbow as in Bow and Arrow or Taking a bow after a good performance? Or maybe he liked to wear bows in his hair, and if you laughed at them he'd punch your lights out.

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Or perhaps he was a shipbuilder!

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[...] and Frederick II is Frederick Barbarossa. It's also mentioned in those links above.

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Er, no, Frederick Barbarossa (1122 - 1190) was Frederick II´s (1194 -1250) grandfather. Frederick II was the emperor who got excommunicated three times, among other things for conquering Jerusalem without the Pope´s permission or killing Saracens.

I'm pretty sure it was the bows in the hair. He was teased by all the other Normans, that's why he was so eager to go to Ireland.

Yeah, Barbarossa was the one that drowned in a river in Cilicia, he was the first Frederick to be Emperor.

And just to prevent us from beinf shipped off to a Monastery, AFAIK, there are Hofenstaffen heroes in the HRE, you can change the line over from the Karolingians with a Civil War if you're careful. I never managed to find Barbarossa though.

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And just to prevent us from beinf shipped off to a Monastery, AFAIK, there are Hofenstaffen heroes in the HRE, you can change the line over from the Karolingians with a Civil War if you're careful. I never managed to find Barbarossa though.

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I am not exactly sure how it works, but Hero King's have got a separate file. If you have a prince born around the same time as the hero and with the same name, he will share characteristics with this hero. But I have never seen an English Richard that was worthy of the title Lionheart. Mind you, that may have been because they had the misfortune of facing me :devil: .

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I am not exactly sure how it works, but Hero King's have got a separate file. If you have a prince born around the same time as the hero and with the same name, he will share characteristics with this hero. But I have never seen an English Richard that was worthy of the title Lionheart. Mind you, that may have been because they had the misfortune of facing me :devil: .

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I have wondered about that too. Perhaps it is so people will develop them some?

Ciaran, well, that was my mistake. Get rid of the roman numeral and it will make sense lol.

Begin training royal knights at 114, so come 1115 you have an über immortal general.

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I am not exactly sure how it works, but Hero King's have got a separate file. If you have a prince born around the same time as the hero and with the same name, he will share characteristics with this hero. But I have never seen an English Richard that was worthy of the title Lionheart. Mind you, that may have been because they had the misfortune of facing me :devil: .

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It doesn't change the name though I thought? then if you get a hero King, the name stays Karolingian.
I meant I was trying to get a Hofenstaffen general called Frederick (I can't remember if it's actually a surname, I might of added it, I did add names to Ireland and Scotland in XL anyway.), become King through civil war.
I was a little unclear, sorry.:bow:

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It doesn't change the name though I thought? then if you get a hero King, the name stays Karolingian.
I meant I was trying to get a Hofenstaffen general called Frederick (I can't remember if it's actually a surname, I might of added it, I did add names to Ireland and Scotland in XL anyway.), become King through civil war.
I was a little unclear, sorry.:bow:

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No, I misread your post. My mistake :bow: .

I recall that, after a civil war the name of the royal line stays the same, but I could be wrong. It has been a while since I played the game (though lack of time and troubles with my speakers; if anybody could help me out in the Tech Library I would be very grateful...)

I think if you start in High era, the surname of the HRE imperial family is Hohenstaufen. So the name might depend on the starting era.