AI faction expansion in your campaigns?

Not much has been said about this. We change builds so often internally up to the open beta, that very few long campaigns were run. I know I would (and I think most all members) love to see some screenshots of how the AI controlled factions expanded over the years in your campaigns. If you've run some for 20+ years, how about posting some shots and your thoughts?

AI expansion seems to be a lot more slow in the open beta with some changes made recently in regards to rebel family members, troop strength, and city development. So let us know how it's gone and what you think about it! Thanks! :grin:

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Here are some examples from older campaigns (on older wacky builds) from the internal boards. Basically just to show different ways you could post these things:

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There's my campaign after 12 years (only got that far up to now), i'll post more as i progress. :winkg:

(I am ze Romans by the way)

Woo! Sweet, sweet Zeus, I finally got the Sarmatians to expand!
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Woo! Sweet, sweet Zeus, I finally got the Sarmatians to expand!
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Just as amazing that the Yuezhi took Chighu too, but it is nice to see the Sarmatians do that. Maks are looking good. Also it seems as though the Seleukids keep getting provinces either bribed away by Ptolemies or are giving them up in a deal. Greek_fire had a nice expansion in another thread too.

My Pontos campaign in 258 BC :

https://img519.imageshack.us/my.php?...carteeb5uh.jpg

Oooh, that's a nice one too.

How does one turn off the fog of war to see ?

In the console (usually ` to get there) type "toggle_fow" and do the same to turn it off.

https://img528.imageshack.us/img528/...se264bc6nr.jpg
I'm playing Casse. I'll post more soon as I advance. :bow:

Ps : I've noticed that casse gouvernement 2 and 4 share the same name and descriptions.

249bc, i'm karthadastim
(sorry, no sauromataen expansion) ~:(

https://img524.imageshack.us/img524/...board025vm.jpg

I'd say that the Sauromatae were bogged in a war against Hayasdan and Pahlava. But.. Look at Baktrians go! They're set for the rest of the game, I'd be damned if anyone can challenge them in the East, that'll only happen if Sels can turn all of their attention there, but Baktria would still survive in India.

@ Narakir's:
If Epeiros and The Koinon are allied, they'll trash the Maks good, a brush over Thermon could turn them against one another though. Epeiros will still come up as a winner there, they're already advancing North and taking territory there. Luckily for them Getia has been quite silent. I'd bet that Epeiros will challenge Rome herself after a few decades.

https://img522.imageshack.us/img522/7106/map4gt.jpg
256 BC. I'm playing as Aedui. Currently, there is only ONE war - Arche Seleukeia vs Ptolemaioi (they are fighting with each other from the start almost constantly...).

Here I've been playing as Pontos with the fog of war turned off so i could pay attention to what is going on everywhere around the map, which is taking forever to watch all the moves :happyg:
https://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a...ornIs/Map2.jpg
This is after 10 years....
The Aedui and the Arvernos have been in constant war. Arvernos seems to be winning, though they havent really taken any land from their Gaulic counterparts and now the Romans have several armies in southern Gaul and are expanding very aggressively. The Casse are on their way to ruling Britain very soon. Epeiros and Hellenon have allied together and have given the Macedonians a thrashing. Getai is coming along nicely. Sauromatae, rather then taking the northern rebel cities has just attacked the expanding Hayasdan, wonder what will happen from that... I'm allied with Hayasdan :gring: and has even tried to help them take a rebel city which borders both our borders. We were defeated though. My economy is now stable, but I'm low on troops and will take some time to gain enough money to expand some more :sadg:

Nice guys. Keep 'em up. Especially when you get further into a campaign.

How to I view my .tga file?

hi chester, what i did was to press "print screen" on my keyboard to capture the display to the clipboard, while in rtw. then i press "ctrl+esc" to get out of rtw and opened an image viewing program. i use irfanview, but any image viewer should work. i pasted the clipboard data into irfanview and cropped it and resized it, viola.

http://www.irfanview.com/


edit: in other words, i don't bother with the tgas at all, though any image viewer should be able to open a tga file.

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Originally Posted by Thorn Is

Here I've been playing as Pontos with the fog of war turned off so i could pay attention to what is going on everywhere around the map, which is taking forever to watch all the moves

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On the campaign selection screen try unchecking the Follow AI Characters box

You can use imageshack.us

Here's a map of 246 B.C.

I was the Casse, and I had absolutely no interaction with other factions whatsoever, I doubt they even knew I existed.

One interesting thing you'll note is that somehow from the other side of the world the Aedui took over Galacia. Is that just a random fluke or have Eb made it more likely for celts in various places to join forces?

https://img326.imageshack.us/my.php?image=map6iw.jpg

EDIT: I'v played a few campaigns to about this stage now, and from what I'v seen this is pretty typical. Noone becomes the absolute supreme power and basicaly noone is totally destroyed. In fact it seems as if the A.I is perhaps actually more cautious in EB, in partiuclar in it's dealings with other A.I factions.

I played on with that particular campaign for about another 5 years, but nothing much happened so I didnt bother taking another screenshot. I took over Ireland and the bactrians took those 2 rebel provinces near the caspian sea. The Macedonians expanded into asia minor a bit after a few seleucid provinces rebeled and I think carthage lost another iberian province

One little thing: Has anyone had a game yet where the seleucid empire was totally crushed? It just dont seem to happen very much, in fact more often than not they actualy expand.

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On the campaign selection screen try unchecking the Follow AI Characters box

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Ive been playing like that so I could keep track of all the factions. I've noticed that even though some factions might not expand they are usually always trying to expand, but either losing to the rebels or to other factions...

GreekFire

what looks interesting in your map is going to be the battle for Gaul, with the Romans having a presence in the south and the Sweboz looking pretty tough...
Although with my game the Seleukos are still dominant in the region the Macedonians have taken another hit - losing another city just after I took that picture.... If they don't rally they might be the first to be destroyed.

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One little thing: Has anyone had a game yet where the seleucid empire was totally crushed? It just dont seem to happen very much, in fact more often than not they actualy expand.

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They expand into Arabia often just because the AI likes to go after rebel provinces when it can. And they will often get cut off from provinces they might grab in the northeast. But I usually see them lose provinces to rebellion and other factions step in then. I've seen them cut apart in many places, but never totally destroyed (but then I've never played a really long campaign either).

My Macedonian campaign in 248 BC:

https://img432.imageshack.us/img432/...on248bc6sp.jpg

Unfortunately, I get a CTD after this turn. :(

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My Macedonian campaign in 248 BC:

https://img432.imageshack.us/img432/...on248bc6sp.jpg

Unfortunately, I get a CTD after this turn. :(

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Holy crap! I wonder what got in the Yuezhi drinking water?

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One interesting thing you'll note is that somehow from the other side of the world the Aedui took over Galacia. Is that just a random fluke or have Eb made it more likely for celts in various places to join forces?

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When provinces rebel, they have to "rebel to" someone, we can't just make them rebel to the slave faction (believe me we wish we could). So instead we have them rebel to people they have the closest affiliation with. So the Aedui in the case of the Galatians.

https://img439.imageshack.us/img439/...eenshot6qf.jpg

After 15 years in, everyone seems to be doing well for themselves, with the exception of those ninnie horse people.

Things actually started to pick up after I took the screenshot; Makedon, my ally, decided to besiege Naissus. Reinforcements arrived before any rams were brought to the walls and their army was utterly crushed. In fury, I quickly assembled what more troops I had and marched on Sardika, where my spy was ready and waiting to keep the gates open. Sardika's garrison consisted only of a Makedonian family member, so the battle was really just an excuse to have live targets for practice.

After slaughtering the populace, my general produced a trait that gave him troubled dreams. All of my generals are wimps! Help!

The year is 262. I will post a map soon.

I am playing as Rome. The Aedui have not been doing well against the Arverni, but manage to hold on. The Aedui hold Galatia in my campaign as well.





edit: Nevermind.

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After slaughtering the populace, my general produced a trait that gave him troubled dreams. All of my generals are wimps! Help!

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having that trouble too. Thanks to some horrific battles I massacred a few cities in revenge. So I dont know if my generals are wimps or I'm just a bastard :gring:

Ok after 20 years
But I keep getting kicked out after Seleukos turn so I dont think continuing will be possible anymore :sadg:
https://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a...ornIs/map4.jpg
Ok Major wars....
the Aedui have secured the north, with their enemy Arvernos in the south... though the Romans have a staggering 3 cities under siege in Gaul - 2 rebels 1 Arvernos. Don't think they would have taken them all, but give them some time and they would be a powerhouse in Gaul.
The Romans and Epeiros have been in constant war. The Epeiros have even marched on Rome. At the time this was taken the Romans had Taras undersiege and Eperios had only one army left in Italia.
Iberia and Karthadastim have fought to a stalemate.
the Getai have become a true powerhouse...
The Macedonians were almost finished at one time, but rallied and have taken some cities on the coast of Asia Minor. In otherwords - it was almost as if they were forced into migrating eastwards. They have since been trying to fight their way back on to mainland Greece.
the Seleukids and Ptolemaios are in constant warfare with no real result, just a lot of battles and a lot of dead.
I have (pontos) became a trading powerhouse. Making around a 1000 gold per turn. Have no enemies, just a lot of friends, though that would probably change with time.
well cause of my problems with getting kicked out of my game its probably the end of that campaign. Must say it was a lot of fun, and very interesting constantly watching the other factions an how they react to eachother and how they expand. :gring:

A shame that the Sauromatae haven't expanded properly, especially in Thorn's campaign...

They fought a lot in the first 10 years against the Hayasdan and the rebel factions to the west and the north, but never had a huge army.

It would be interesting though to see if someone could make it 40/ 50 years in without too many CTD's to see if they will expand once they have some time to build up a good enough army - or if oppertunity knocks
though they were doing well in Greek Fire's and Dayve's campaigns

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My Macedonian campaign in 248 BC:

https://img432.imageshack.us/img432/...on248bc6sp.jpg

Unfortunately, I get a CTD after this turn. :(

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Its 248 BC!! This must mean that the CTD in 252.2 BC in my Makedonian campaign can be overcome! But how?!? Has anyone else went past 252 BC playing Makedonia? That will be great news!!
Maybe we do need a list of all the factions- like the_handsome_viking has suggested- so we can keep track of what is happening and people can report the progress on individual campaigns every five or ten years screenies and all.


O Stratigos :bow:

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Maybe we do need a list of all the factions- like the_handsome_viking has suggested- so we can keep track of what is happening and people can report the progress on individual campaigns every five or ten years.

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would be neat if a bounch of people get organized to play unique factions.... you know like 2 people per faction so every faction gets played equaly and some arent ignored....

Although they might not be stickied, individual threads in this particular forum, if they are about an individual faction (discussing what works, what doesn't, etc.) would be cool - but only as they are needed and as people want to post about them. Sorta had one going on the Romans you've seen already.

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Originally Posted by Teleklos Archelaou

Although they might not be stickied, individual threads in this particular forum, if they are about an individual faction (discussing what works, what doesn't, etc.) would be cool - but only as they are needed and as people want to post about them. Sorta had one going on the Romans you've seen already.

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Of course anyone can start a thread about a faction like is suggested, but because of the enormous amount of information that is coming in, I think having all the factions listed in one place –like the EB Bug R&TH and EB GG- will make it much easier for everyone to find and post progress, bugs etc. It will also be of great help, I believe, to the EB members who are trying to fix the bugs and CTD’s to just pop over to a given faction and make any comparisons and observations they might need.
For example, I am about to report a CTD:Karthadastim and I’ve been looking all over the place to see if anyone else has already posted any, so I can add mine there as well.

Anyway that’s what I think; maybe someone can explain as to why it can’t be done, or why it might not work or whatever.. :shrug: ~:thumb:

O Stratigos :bow:

My Casse campaign, 250 B.C.

https://img364.imageshack.us/img364/9003/2508yo.th.jpg

https://img388.imageshack.us/img388/1514/2533fb.jpg

253BC, still playing as the Romans and it's the same campaign as i posted earlier in the thread.

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My Casse campaign, 250 B.C.

https://img364.imageshack.us/img364/9003/2508yo.th.jpg

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Karthadastim has been kicked out of Spain.... The Iberians will probably fortify Iberia like something... ~:)

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Karthadastim has been kicked out of Spain.... The Iberians will probably fortify Iberia like something... ~:)

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Yeah, that was interesting. And also that Baktria has not done much except get northern india bribed away by the Parthians it would seem. (india rebels to baktria, so it didn't rebel to parthia). A pretty nice distribution otherwise. Looking good.

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https://img388.imageshack.us/img388/1514/2533fb.jpg

253BC, still playing as the Romans and it's the same campaign as i posted earlier in the thread.

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-That's troublesome why the Pahlava got Ma'in. Ptolemies are the faction creator so they should be the one it rebels to.
-Baktria going northwest is weird.
-Seleukids falling apart looks good
-KH is probably just sitting on rhodes

everything else looking good.

Here's the same Casse campaign at 242 B.C.

https://img404.imageshack.us/img404/1002/242bc6ve.jpg


One weird thing... Maybe they were there before and I hadn't noticed, maybe they're supposed to be there, maybe they just got that far but...

https://img404.imageshack.us/img404/...aced7sx.th.jpg

Those Gauls sure are resourceful.

If it rebels, it has to rebel to someone. Better them there than anyone else. :laugh4:

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If it rebels, it has to rebel to someone. Better them there than anyone else. :laugh4:

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is there anyway to decrease teh chance of rebellion for AI factions? in one of my campaigns, i noticed that rome was takign taras from epeiros over and over again, and it kept rebelling back. i'm not sure, but i have a feeling that this maybe be stunting the growth of AI factions (especially when conquering other AI faction cities).

Romans and Epeirotes are actually the same culture - there should be very little reason for them to rebel unless it just has to do with sheer population numbers. I don't know how we can alter rebelling chances any other way though actually.

My campaign in 241 BC

https://img500.imageshack.us/img500/...arorum22xp.jpg

The Sweboz in Tolosa ? Is that normal ?

I noticed Makedon cut to pieces many times. It may be caused by lack of
MIC II in Mak cities - both KH and Epeiros have one (Athenai and Ambrakia respectively)

They had to have bribed that city away it would seem, Spendios. Same for the pahlava province in India.

Etairos, Maks, I think, just are in a situation where they have multiple enemies to start the game all in a fairly restricted area. Sometimes the wind up with a lot of territory, sometimes (like in spendios') they just hold their own, sometimes they get split up or crushed (like in wonderland's). It's a volatile area and position. I'm not too unhappy with it so far. Plus, we still have units to add and building levels in cities to tweak, and even govt bonuses to tweak. It'll all work out. :grin:

I kind of like the unpredictability of the AI in EB. Makes every campaign a little unique. Of course that is my own very humble opinion.~:)

I have to report one problem - KH 'king" is sitting on Krete, in the same spot from the start of the game (almost 10 years)
are there any plans for more Makedon style Makedonian starting army?
I mean some taxei Phalangitai instead taxeis hoplitai, some psiloi in the garnisons. But, I suppose it will be to easy for human ths way.

That's where Areus was in 272 BC so that's where we wanted to start him. Too bad the stupid AI doesn't either:

A. go pick him up
B. recruit mercs and take kydonia
C. bring more troops to help him take kydonia
D. charge him into a heroic death in a futile attempt to take kydonia
E. disband the other troops with him and just let him wait to die alone

Oh well. When the human plays as KH, it's pretty easy to solve the situation at least.

Hmm, we should stick the KH navy right next to him and see if it helps him.

nice to se ethe EV-veterans surprised abotu their own creation ~;)

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A. go pick him up
B. recruit mercs and take kydonia
C. bring more troops to help him take kydonia
D. charge him into a heroic death in a futile attempt to take kydonia
E. disband the other troops with him and just let him wait to die alone

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What did the real Areus do?

He ran home as quick as he could when he found out pyrrhos was approaching. But he got there just after the fight had gone down. But his son had successfully kept pyrrhos from breaking into the city itself (with the help of many of the women of sparta). Pyrrhos then had to turn around because the maks came down with some forces and caused him to disengage sparta.

areus died a few years later outside of korinth while trying to push the maks out of the peloponnese.

Maybe some people can use the command -ai, just put it after your EB shortcut and the AI would play the player faction.

https://img461.imageshack.us/img461/7499/242bc1hi.jpg

242BC... Again it's the same campaign i've been playing from the start. I be ze Romans.

246 bc, i'm playing as the romani

wait... i thought i got the picture posted but i guess not

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Originally Posted by Narakir

Maybe some people can use the command -ai, just put it after your EB shortcut and the AI would play the player faction.

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That keeps you from running the script which makes the game play very differently.

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246 bc, i am the romani, the Ptolemaioi had expanded further into syria and anatolia but lost that ground, and carthage had controlled most of spain and parts of gaul up to masilia and gergovia earlier on, but when they began to lose some provinces they declared war on me. Since then they have lost a large amount of land rather quickly. the sauromatae and hayasdan have been fighting of control of the provinces above the black sea for a while. Oh, Baktria has a full stack army near the capital which has been there for quite a while now and they haven't been expanding. The Seleukids dont have any real military force on the eastern portion of their empire, so i'm hoping to see some Baktrian expansion into their lands soon, as i am eager to see the special alerts about the seleukid collapse

look at yhuezi go! sauromatae is doign great as well!

It's 246 BC. using the -ai.

The casse had a rough time since they were the player faction but I helped them twice by using the add_money code So they at least were able to conquer two other settlements. (It crashed once and started it up again)
Now, it has crashed again and this is the last screen I took. from 246 BC

https://img334.imageshack.us/img334/2525/rtw2461ff.png

seleucids on the crumblign side...

https://img502.imageshack.us/img502/...bscreen6fj.jpg

I included the Faction rankings, dunno if you find it helpful or not, I included the factions that are powerful in my game as Romans, Carthage, Ptolemy, Seleucids, Baktrians, Armenians, Parthians and myself. I got a message like 8 turns ago Egypt is about to win, not much I can do, navies are too damn expensive to and roaming pirate fleet with 7 stars that keeps randomly blockading my sicilian ports prevents me from risking moving out of the Tyrrhenian and Adriatic seas.

Carthage is my next objective after I stabilize my northern front a bit more, once I sieze carthage proper I can begin moving into Gaul or Greece with sufficient naval power and commercial might to back up full-scale invasions of those kinds.

Overall I think I'm doing good.

"egypt is about to win"
that can happen? wow..
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that sucks...now There's pressure....

but then, I've already started my third campaign. not failing, not boredom. but over excitement to see what's around

Those messages should just be ignored. They've yet to do anything. It doesn't relate to our new victory conditions anyway.

My Makedonian campaign at 247 BC
https://img461.imageshack.us/img461/2880/247bc1bi.jpg

I gave Dalminio to Ptolemaioi and Singardunum to Aeudi as buffers, following through on my master plan for world domination... :evil: ~D

O Stratigos :bow:

PS: Hey TA, have you reached a decision about the phrourion yet?

Progress from my Baktrian campaign:

260BC
https://img443.imageshack.us/img443/9925/eb260bc3xp.jpg

247BC
https://img443.imageshack.us/img443/7762/eb247bc7md.jpg

236BC
https://img443.imageshack.us/img443/8034/eb236bc7qu.jpg

When Seleukids attacked me, all of the other initial Seleukid allies (Hayasdan, Pahlava, Pontos) renounced their alliance (they're still allied to me and to each other) but none of them has declared war on Seleukids so far.

https://img366.imageshack.us/img366/1699/swe2469iu.png

My campaign as Sweboz 246. At this time, i fight agains the Getai (they attacked me). The Gaul factions and Rome never fought against each other, they just sit there since the beginning.
Armenia and Parthia fight for many years and sometimes really conquer a city. Also, Makedonia fights against Pontos, KH and Epirus, but they seem to win. Rome is at war with Carthage, but they never conquered a city of their opponent, they didnt even send an army to try it. Sarmatia is a Protectorate of Armenia. I have to say, before the war against Getia, it was quite boring, but I think it gets interesting now. I played a campaign as Bactria, too, but it crashed and I dont have any screenshots.

https://img322.imageshack.us/img322/6523/2356qg.jpg

235BC in my campaign as Roma which i have been posting throughout this thread... Seleucids are almost finished i dare say, Greece is still alive but they've been reduced to owning Rhodes only... The Armenians are doing ok for themselves... Sarmatians are expanding nicely as is Baktria... I've just given up Carthage and Adrumento because i realised it's way too early for me to be even thinking about expanding in Africa yet (historically anyway), although Carthage will NOT accept a ceasefire no matter what i offer...

wow look how bad the Seleukos has been hit
I feel like lighting a candle in their memory
and poor Pontos

It's even worse 3 years later :2thumbsup: Will post it tomorrow, bedtime now though.

Very nice seleukid collapse. I have to wonder about seeing Armenia take such large areas compared to Pontos every time though. In our earlier tests they split it up (the race around to the north of the euxine), but every single time now they take it. I think it is more a matter of not helping Armenia out so much to start the game than needing to beef up Pontos at the start.

We wouldn't force it, but it's more accurate to see Armenia solidify and hold their own than to expand into areas Pontos historically had more control over (granted it comes later though - not in 240 or whatever).

Continuation of my Casse campaign, Summer of 227 B.C.

https://img223.imageshack.us/img223/...27bc9rt.th.jpg

Chaos in the East with the Persians spread all over the place, no solid holdings for anybody around there throughout the campaign.

Armenia and Pontos are doing as you suggested T.A. It's good to have variables like this, so perhaps they shouldn't be nerfed? (Admitted bias on my part, being an Armenian and all... ~;) )

Ptolemies are powerful as hell.

The Epirotes (?) have all but destroyed Makedon, pushing them east across the channel and now reign supreme in their area, although Rome is now at their throats and Getia is no joke.

Carthage is doing it's thing in Africa having gotten kicked out of Iberia by the Iberians.... who are consequently kicking everyone elses ass to their north. I am however allied with them for the time being.

Rome doing quite well. Just declared war on me, joining their allies the Sweboz... who are currently the most powerful nation on earth.

The Aedui have been all but destroyed thanks to yours truly with the help of the Iberians, left only with one province.... in Turkey no less... Arverni are a protectorate of the Sweboz and are near their end.

More fun than a barrel of stoned monkeys.

I like the varied things happening to the Seleucids. Sometimes they retain and enlarge their empire, sometimes they crumble. Aside from the Yuehzi it looks like most factions expand quite nicely, overall.

Though in the last two screenshots, there's a strange Pahlavan looking province in Arabia. Would that be a bug?

Here's my KH campaign in 256:

https://img157.imageshack.us/img157/546/256kheb8hm.jpg


A few noteworthy things about the current state of affairs:

- Pontus has moved into Europe and has taken Byzantion. Now only if they stopped getting thrown back by Pergamon's forces.

- Backtria has broken away from their alliances, and are about to take that final rebel provence to their northwest. Pahlava could help Selekeus, but....

- The Yuezhi have declared war on the Pahlava, and seem to have enough troops to take their two eastern most cities.

- Rome has stopped focusing on Sicily, and instead has been gobbling up rebel provinces to the east, with a few more currently besieged.

- This, however, has left Italy wide open to attack, which the Aedui seem about ready to do, as their stacking troops in their southern provences.

- The Averni have become Protecorates of the Aedui, but have several full stacks of their own, some seeming to heard northeast and attack the Sweboz, others about to southwest into Iberia.

- Cartage is definitely going to lose all of Iberia soon. They're too busy trying to take all of North Africa.

Well since it has happened in two screenshots now i think that city in Arabia must be rebelling to Pahlava... What's the garrison for it looking like in your screenshot Wonderland? In my game they have a full stack almost in there, of what troops i am unsure though since i've no spies in the area...

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I like the varied things happening to the Seleucids. Sometimes they retain and enlarge their empire, sometimes they crumble. Aside from the Yuehzi it looks like most factions expand quite nicely, overall.

Though in the last two screenshots, there's a strange Pahlavan looking province in Arabia. Would that be a bug?

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I think it would have to be a bribed province (as is Tashkashila). That one should rebel to ptolemies if it has to rebel to anyone.

Baktria looks like a Texas gerrymandered congressional district. :grin: I guess they are still at peace with seleukids and just taking what provinces rebel? If not the AI has lots its marbles.

Did epeiros take Krete too? Weird that Sicily still is mostly rebel.

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Ma'in province: faction creator is numidia (Ptolemies), but faction culture is indeed Pahlava.

It would be really nice if someone fully explained to me how the AI handles rebelling provinces. Why do some go rebel sometimes, sometimes to the faction creator, and sometimes to the faction culture?

edit2: Hmmm. I'm wondering if the faction that takes a province is indeed the faction creator, if they can't hold it then maybe the game looks to the faction culture next.

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Originally Posted by Teleklos Archelaou

Did epeiros take Krete too? Weird that Sicily still is mostly rebel.

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Hiero of Syracuse is one tough cookie! I need to do his biography trait. :laugh4:

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Originally Posted by Teleklos Archelaou

Ma'in province: faction creator is numidia (Ptolemies), but faction culture is indeed Pahlava.

It would be really nice if someone fully explained to me how the AI handles rebelling provinces. Why do some go rebel sometimes, sometimes to the faction creator, and sometimes to the faction culture?

edit2: Hmmm. I'm wondering if the faction that takes a province is indeed the faction creator, if they can't hold it then maybe the game looks to the faction culture next.

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Generally they've been rebelling -from- the Ptolemies. So maybe it looks to faction culture if the faction creator holds the province.

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Originally Posted by khelvan

Generally they've been rebelling -from- the Ptolemies. So maybe it looks to faction culture if the faction creator holds the province.

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If this is the case, we may just have to live with this. Who else viable could they rebel to? Why in the world was this not made a little simpler.... :furious3:

*Cough* Sabeans *Cough* ~;)