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Hegemonia-City States (BI 1.6 mod focusing on classical Greece)
Hegemonia - City States focuses on Hellenic history before the hegemony of Thebes and Macedon.
We hope to create a realistic mod that will transfer you to the Golden Age of Hellenic Culture and Warfare.
The Hegemonia team welcomes the people who share the same enthusiasm to our
development forum where you can also add your help to our effort, given that you possess the skills and the time needed. You can also visit the new
Hegemonia site.
The team thanks all the people who have assisted so far in various ways and also TWC, SCC, RTR Forums for offering us sub-forums. (and hopefully the ORG, if we are granted a sub-forum here in the near future... )
The concept of the project we are developing is as thrilling and as simple it can get for fans of Hellenic warfare !
Hegemonia Cities States is a mod on BI 1.6. The start date is 514 BC just before the armies of the Persian Empire cross the Hellespont Straits to march against Europe and the Thracians. There will be a big invasion force gathered available for the Persian faction from the very beginning. If we use any scripts (which is under discussion) then there will be 2 more such armies generating at 490 BC and 480 BC to simulate both of the Persian attempts to conquer the Greeks.
However the Persians are not the only threat. The Greek cities and colonies which are spread all around the campaign map (and beyond that of course) are locked in a constant struggle against each other, against civilized and uncivilized barbarians (barbarians originally meant non Greeks), against native populations who are often hostile towards Greek colonists and of course against their main competitors in navy and trade: the Phoenicians and their own flourishing colonies, most notably, the Carthaginians !
The Phoenicians may have played a role in the decision for a Persian invasion against Hellas, while the Greeks were preparing to face the superior Persian naval forces (in which Phoenician ships were the most important) in Salamis, the Carthaginians launched a huge attack against Sicily to destroy Hellenism in all its strongholds !
In the game we will most likely include some units from the Peloponnesian wars as well (like Greek peltasts, special marines and more use of cavalry) but we will mostly focus in warfare between heavily armed hoplites fighting in shield wall (maybe combined with an animation we will develop and an altered formation if it can be done) supported by missile auxilia troops. That means you will see many new models, some models that few people have seen before and generally many accurate and fascinating looking hoplites. Of course there will also be eastern types of troops, mounted units where they existed, savage warriors in areas inhabited by wild and uncultured people as well as Carthaginian and Etruscan troops in the western Mediterranean.
For the units you can forget about using vanilla models! We are using our own models for most units we create and the result is realistic and impressive.The victory conditions will include for most Greek cities and Greek-related kingdoms of Hellenic origin to capture one or more special provinces like Olympia, Delphi and Dodona (amongst with other conditions too of course). Non-hellenic factions will have other objectives.
The Factions:
Certain factions may need some explanation so that is clear why they were preferred instead of others and also to specify their starting provinces, which will be showed with each factions preview anyway.....
We had to choose from several independent Hellenic and Non-Hellenic factions and we think we had made the best selection possible so that we can play with the most attractive factions, which are:
--Divided as they are matched in the code--
*Work on high res icons done by Lupus, Snevets also has done work on faction icons*
The Map
The brand new map is under development.
The plan is to have as much as about 190 provinces if everything proves to work fine.
This is the area which covers our map and the aimed province setup.
The initial intention was to expand the AoH map which Laridus developed to west, east and north towards Carthage, Phoenicia and more Illyrian/Thracian regions.
Due to game limitations Phoenicia cannot be included so in east it includes as far as Cyprus (we naturally preferred the Carthaginian regions of Africa instead of Phoenicia)
Uranos is in charge of the Hegemonia map and Laridus from the very start offered his previous work on the map.
There is not yet a complete playable version of the map just some WIP screenshots.
When we show screenshots do not rush to criticise possible little mistakes, because the map is in an early form...
The map will be very detailed and accurate in its final version - given that the suggested plan is accomplished.
If you want to use them, please download them and then upload them to your own image-hosting site...
Some new banners you can use freely as signatures, as a word of warning, some forums will not allow them due to their size, you may have to re-size them yourself.
The Hegemonia Team :
Thanks and cheers from the whole
Hegemonia Team, this thread will be updated regularly...
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This mod looks damn awesome! well done. As for it being BI, are you using the shield wall feature for your hoplites?
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Originally Posted by Ianofsmeg16
This mod looks damn awesome! well done. As for it being BI, are you using the shield wall feature for your hoplites?
Thanks for the warm welcome guys, nice to hear you like our work...
to Ianofsmeg16
About the shield-wall, at the start we were going for it, but our developers stumbled on something else more suitable for the more aggressive hoplite style of fighting that we were interested in, the mod is covering the classical era, before any vanilla-type phalanx was around, but it's stiill under development so I can't really say anything more... about a release date, no date set yet....
Cheers from the whole team...:juggle2:
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Looks fantastic! I'll definantly be giving this mod a go.
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1st post updated...
added screenshots and links...
map has been successfully converted to BI 1.6, almost finished....
OK here are some shots of Crete, remember the mod is still in progress....
Thanks go to our mapper, Uranos ;)
and we would be more than happy to listen to your suggestions or answer any questions you might have about the mod....
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Is this real? This isn't real. Is this real?
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I think my signiture says it all Wonderland...
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I'd love to be killed by that Thracian. I'd give anything to be killed by that Thracian.
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...be careful what you wish for....Wonderland.... hehe...:skull:
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The thracians are looking better and better all the time I must say...
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Hi Ozz,
I'm greek and could assist you.
Re malaka, yiati den mou'leyes?
Lipon, oti thelis
NA ZISI H ELLADA!
YIA SOU THESSALIA! (VATSOUNIA KAI NOMO KARDITSIS!)
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Looks very impressive :smile:
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Looks very promesing. I'm already looking forward to reduce Hellas to ashes. Time to show those Greeks why Persia rules the world...
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Originally Posted by Gurkhal
Looks very promesing. I'm already looking forward to reduce Hellas to ashes. Time to show those Greeks why Persia rules the world...
not so easy brother:laugh4:
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Again, thanks from the whole team for your kind words and support guys...
and a new faction preview is almost finished... and it's not a Greek faction BTW...:dizzy2:
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Update:
Macedonian preview added to "mod discussion" section and links to the preview added to 1st post here...
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Update:
Today, the "Boeotean League" (Thebes) and "The City of Croton" previews added to "mod discussion" section and more links to the previews added to 1st post here, also next preview is almost ready...
PS - About the Macedonian faction, please don't rush in to criticize the way the faction is presented here, the mod starts 2 centuries before Phillip II and Alexander the Great, so naturally the reformed Macedonian armies that everyone knows from the Hellenistic Ages didn't exist back then....
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Well I couldn't resist adding some more screenshots I found of some WIP units from last November... Credits go to our skinner "Hades"...
Hope you like them guys...
Update - Screenshots also added to "mod discussion" section here...
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Nice screenshots.
Quote:
not so easy brother
Don't worry, I got a plan. An evil twisted one to the core. :laugh4:
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Oh, sweet monkeys, I love those Thebans. Very nice ozz, truly wonderful. Can't wait.
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don't thank me, thank the modellers and skinners...
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Originally Posted by spirit_of_rob
Your Welcome haha
lol
I will be posting more WIP screenshots in a couple of days...:juggle2:
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Some more "hegemonia" banners you can use for sigs.
If you want to use them, please download them and then upload them to your own image-hosting site...
Created by our Lead 2D artist "Lupus" and our new recruit "91.css"
https://img118.imageshack.us/img118/...banner15ge.jpg
https://img150.imageshack.us/img150/...banner25oo.jpg
https://img150.imageshack.us/img150/...banner38ju.jpg
Edit - The images may need to be re-sized for use as signatures in some forums. If you're not sure, read each forum's signature rules.
Hope you like 'em...:dizzy2:
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Wow nice work guys. Map is looking good but still you could work on it.
For example move Etna to the east coast of Sicily.
I like scale of your map. You can put lots of details on it.
I hope you are using some program like Googleearth to help you get all the details right. Good luck.
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Glad to see that this mod is doing so well. Some very-nice looking artwork there, and I've really enjoyed your faction previews.
I like the signature art too, particularly the main one.
Keep up the good work. :2thumbsup:
Antagonist
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Thanks everyone....
and some nice wallpapers made by our team's artists...
Edit - Broken links fixed.
Enjoy...:juggle2:
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Originally Posted by LorDBulA
Wow nice work guys. Map is looking good but still you could work on it.
For example move Etna to the east coast of Sicily.
I like scale of your map. You can put lots of details on it.
I hope you are using some program like Googleearth to help you get all the details right. Good luck.
Thanks for the input LorDBulA, the map is in it's final stages and is almost complete, final tweaks are being done now...
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Banners re-sized because they were too big for use as signatures... :juggle2:
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Hey, guys. Hegemonia rules, and anyone who opposes it must die!:skull:
:laugh4:
BTW, just registered.
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Why haven't I taken any notice of this mod before? Well, now I have and another mod is added to my list of "Mods I cannot wait for":2thumbsup:
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OK, I promised more pics, so some more awesome WIP renders, this time from our team's lead skinner, "Spirit_of_Rob"...
More in a couple of days...
:dizzy2:
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Looks great!! Amazing work, guys.:2thumbsup:
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First Post Updated.
All faction previews updated with better quality pics of units and province screenshots... links to the faction previews can be found in the first post in this thread... or if you're just lazy like me, click here.
~:cheers:
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A sneak preview of our team's work...
Courtesy of our team's skinner "Elyssian Warrior"
Enjoy...
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Just got a sneak preview of the latest Persians... this is not the final version of the unit...
Courtesy of our modeller and skinner "Dark Fenrir"
https://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a254/DarkFenrir/ars.jpg[/img]
arstibara (applebearers)
https://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a254/DarkFenrir/ars2.jpg[/img]
arstibara (applebearers)
B-)
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OK, some more beautiful WIP renders from last November, these have already been posted at TWC, so nobody should have a problem with me posting... :unsure:
Courtesy of our modellers and skinners.
Any comments appreciated, as always...
PS - The appearance of many of these units may have changed since November...
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Nice to see the first non-Greek units...keep it up!
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Yes, so many hoplites... we do need something different for a change... the good news is that the Etruscan preview is up next, and there are many non-Greek factions following...
:horn:
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with your curent standart in mind I personally find it hard to wait for your mod to be released.. sure you don't know when you plan to be finished?
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And as I have said before I'm totally :jawdrop: by the beutifully detailed work you have done... just a thought have done any cavalery units yet??
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We dont have a released date planned yet as we think it is better to simply work as fast as we can rather than make a deadline and miss it which im sure would result in all hell breaking loose from the fans of our mod hehe.
If u mean persian Cavalry the units are planned but still in the very early stages of been made full answer in the other place u asked this *giggles*
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Absolutely stunning Ozz, your team is amazing, and your skinners/modellers are excellent.
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thanks from the whole team everyone,
more screens soon... :dizzy2:
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Originally Posted by BelgradeWar
Nice to see the first non-Greek units...keep it up!
These are certainly far from the first... but I suppose we haven't released any official previews yet for fully non Greeks. We'll fix that in the next few days: Etruscan then Thracian previews are upcoming.
As for whether or not we have done any cavalry, yes we have, a few have appeared in our previews so far.
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Awsome persian units! maybe you guys could figure out trireme warefare and have sea battles :2thumbsup:
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Originally Posted by beauchamp
Awsome persian units! maybe you guys could figure out trireme warefare and have sea battles :2thumbsup:
Wishfull thinking "beauchamp"...:2thumbsup:
Sea-battles would be cool, but to my knowledge no-one's figured it out yet... at least not successfully... :idea2:
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Some more cool pics of units from our skinner "Elyssian Warrior"....
Once again, comments are always welcome...
:2thumbsup:
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The thing about sea-battles is that the makers of the game really, really, really, didn't want us to make them, because its their ace in the hole for a later expansion or sequel. If they announced sea-battles for their upcoming sanitation workers total war, everyone would buy it, despite the incredibly discouraging title just because sea battles are what everyone is waiting for. Point is, one day CA will make a game with sea-battles... until then we'll just be fighting on land.
Etruscans for you today guys...
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OK guys, time for some non-Greek factions, new faction preview posted: Etruria (The Etruscans)
See 1st post in this thread or if you're just plain lazy click here ....
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Some brilliant artwork by our 2D graphics leader "Lupus".
Some new banners you can use freely as signatures, as a word of warning, some forums will not allow them due to their size, you may have to re-size them yourself.
If you want to use them, please download them and then upload them to your own image-hosting site...
See first post in this thread for the Hegemonia signatures
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Next up, we will be previewing the Thraceans... (sooner than you might think... :laugh4: )
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Awsome work! looking forward to persians :2thumbsup:
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New unit added to Macedonian preview, we decided to add them based on a lack of quality line infantry for the faction and recent archaeological findings which uncovered proto-hoplite equipment in Macedonia at this time period.
For the Macedonian Preview, click here.
The Hegemonia Team.
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We've decided we need to speed up the coding a bit.
Coders with some basic skills needed for some....
....heavy text editing...
Give me a PM if you're interested. :help:
ozz
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You guys are amazing, Incredible job. I'd see: go pro!
@Ozz, i've heard about it, you need a basic coder for implanting units, right?
Well, i'm no good at it (as i was lazy and used little programs like "Caligula").
But if i ever happened to find someone who is able to do anything for the mod, i'll inform you.
Keep up the good work.:2thumbsup:
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Images temporarily down due to exceeded bandwidth limit.
Will be fixed asap...
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OK hi everyone,
Full screen pics converted to thumbnails because of bandwidth problems...
Tommorrow I'll post some new renders...
:juggle2:
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That was quick...! :dizzy2:
Thanks Apostate...
~:cheers:
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Thracian Preview posted in mod discussion :)
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...and for lazy people who can't be bothered looking for the link like me, click here for the new Thracian Preview.
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New pics added in the screenshots and renders thread here... more following in a few hours... :dizzy2:
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New "Gallic Mercenary" renders added in the screenshots and renders thread here...
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Courtesy of our skinner/modeller Snevets...
https://img416.imageshack.us/img416/...rshr3vl.th.jpg
Gallic Skirmishers
https://img115.imageshack.us/img115/...enhr6pd.th.jpg
Gallic Spearmen
https://img115.imageshack.us/img115/...enhr3qd.th.jpg
Gallic Elite Swordsmen
These will be mercenary units only - they will start in the North of the map as the first threat for the Etruscan faction to face (or hire as mercs...), maybe also for the Illyrians...
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Originally Posted by Wonderland
Oh, sweet monkeys, I love those Thebans. Very nice ozz, truly wonderful. Can't wait.
Tespians aren't Thebans. In fact, they were enemies of Thebes for quite some time.
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Originally Posted by Tiberius
Tespians aren't Thebans. In fact, they were enemies of Thebes for quite some time.
Hi Tiberius, you are correct, but we never said Thespians were Thebans, if you read the faction intro in the Boeotian League preview posted, the Thespians and Plataeans were allies of Sparta & Athens, and more than often enemies of Thebes.
We decided to include the Thespians in the Boeotian League because of the limited number of factions available and the dominant city in Boeotia was definitely Thebes...
Hope that helps...
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the thespians indeed were enemies of the thebans from time to time, but they were not traditional allies of athens
...actually those became the poor neighbour boiotian city of Plataia which after the spartans denied to be their protectors and patrons from thebes, they asked the athenians who accepted the invitation
....however as we said, the factions name is "boiotian league" not "thebes"
...it consists of the cities of boiotia and of course naturally controlled by the strongest city,thebes!
thats why after the persians withdrew from hellas, the boiotian league was ressolved in order to punish thebes who had willingly allied with the persians...
anyway a common characteristic of both Thespians and Plataians is their reknown bravery!
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Hey this thing is finally working for me :laugh4:
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New screenshots added in Hegemonia Screenshots & Renders thread in "mod discussion", check them out here
or
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showt...39#post1097539
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i admire your work ,i have been great fun of the game since STW and iam anxious of your release since i learned your work...
κρατείστε την Ελληνική σημαία ψηλά!!!!
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Thank you :)
Dont know what u said in Greek i leave that for another team member to comment on lol
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Originally Posted by Arioh
i admire your work ,i have been great fun of the game since STW and iam anxious of your release since i learned your work...
κρατείστε την Ελληνική σημαία ψηλά!!!!
Κάνουμε οτι μπορούμε:2thumbsup:
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The new faction preview has been posted go check out The Locrian Cities, and if your to lazy clickhere
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1st post updated, Corinthian renders added in the Corinthian preview plus a link to the Locrian preview added there also...
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Originally Posted by beauchamp
Sehr Toll!
...say what...? ~;p
