Strength and honour

Im sorry for being so negative lately,but my mother has been missing now for almost two weeks.Tomorrow i have to start scouting the bars of eastern Helsinki with my friends and my sister to find her.
I realized to day that three weeks ago i picked her and her stuff from one drunk.And now i hope that she is with that scumback.If tomorrow i will found that the scumback have killed her .Il be couple years of this board becouse i will be in jail.But lets hope that it will not go that.

My reason to post this is just that i want to explain myself incase my worst imagination comes thruth.

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Originally Posted by Gelatinous Cube

Best wishes. If this fellow did kill or harm your mother, I hope you give him an ass-whupping he'll never forget.

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Ass-whupping? That would be a lite sentence. Best wishes and good luck. I hope for the best.

Thanks Cube.We have had our disagreemnts in the past but i respect you for this .Sorry to say this but if the guy has done what i think he has done.He wont have time to regret this.Im really sorry but this is just something i have to get out of my chest.

We stand shoulder-to-shoulder with you Man. Whatever tomorrow brings, I know you will do the right thing.

Strong best wishes from West Coast US, and from the org, to you, our friend.

Feel free to unburden your chest right here. I know I speak for everyone here when I say that we feel your worry, and your rage, and are eager to help in any way we can.

:strong handshake: and best of luck, my brother!

Good luck, and best wishes.

Remember something about your friends.

Good friends help you move. Great friends help you move bodies.

I hope everything turns out alright, but if it doesn't, do what you have to do.

Strength and Honor brother.

Good luck Kagemusha, I hope everything turns out well.

Kagemusha, I know if it was my mother I would have the same feelings, but please don't follow through with what you have planned if the worst case senario turns up to be the reality of your situation. Don't ruin your life, I beg you. It would be a premeditated act and, I'm not sure of the laws in your land, but here its even more punishable if you have acted with full knowledge of what you have planned to do.

My prayers are with you and especially your Mother. I'm sure that you'll find here in realative good health and you will be able to find here the help she needs. That's my prayer to you and your family. Be wise, not rash.:bow:

Thanks my friends.But i cant Really tell you guys what is going on becouse i dont know my self.What i can tell is that i have not really slept well in two weeks.last friday i left a note in my mothers place to please contact anyone so we would know that she is allright.There was last mondays post between the inner and outer dor.And im sorrry to curse but if that motherfucker killed her.He will follow.And he wont be in the same place with her.I have to point out that my parents had really tough divorse but that was almost 15 years a go.I just hope she is alive.

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I just hope she is alive

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So do we mate.

If she is, hug her and be secure in the knowledge that a catastrophy was averted, and you have done the right thing.

If she isn't... call the authorities immediately, please. We all understand the essential human feelings of mother, sister and daughter protection. If Mom is gone, and you know who did it, make HIM serve time - no sense in your going into prison for life for someone else's stupid mistakes. You're worth more than that - and Mom would be the first to agree.

Kukri thank you.~:) but i have to say,tomorrow will show us.If nothing else, thruth shall set us free.I cant promise you guys anything but honour means very much in my culture.I will tell you what happened tomorrow.If i have courage to do that becouse just showing the weakness to tell you guys about the current situation. im so embarassed,so it can be very hard to me to post here anymore.But Kukri what i can say is that let just all hope that the angels will guard her path too.
Thank you for your support my friends.:bow:

-Kage

Then make sure that your culture is facing forwards and not backwards.

Sacrifice for the future descendents and not the past ancestors.

I have encountered too many cultures that worship the past and are dying with it.

At least see what the law will do.

I'm sorry to hear this Kagemusha. I sincerely hope that you find your mother and that she is safe and sound. And please think very carefully about your actions. Best wishes.

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Originally Posted by Kagemusha

Kukri thank you.~:) but i have to say,tomorrow will show us.If nothing else, thruth shall set us free.I cant promise you guys anything but honour means very much in my culture.I will tell you what happened tomorrow.If i have courage to do that becouse just showing the weakness to tell you guys about the current situation. im so embarassed,so it can be very hard to me to post here anymore.But Kukri what i can say is that let just all hope that the angels will guard her path too.
Thank you for your support my friends.:bow:

-Kage

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My best advice for this moment: get some sleep. Even if only for a few hours. It is, what... 0500 there? almost daybreak? Tomorrow looks to be a long day, whatever happens. Best to have all your faculties working, you know? Head, heart, and soul.

You will do well.

Mom will be fine.

I know it.

And I pray it. (Not easy for an old atheist like me). :)

kagemusha, I also hope and pray your mother is alright. Isn't she missing long enough for the police to investigate?

Please don't do anything rash on your own. You are in a highly emotional state and your thinking impared. With the extreme course of action you are considering, clouded judgement or a bad assumption could end in tragedy for you and/or another innocent person. I see only one happy outcome but many bad ones. The honourable thing to do is act within the laws of your country. This probably means nothing to you in your current state of mind, but I do pray that in the end you will do the right thing - right by you, your mother and everyone. My thoughts will be with you tomorrow.

Thanks Kukri but its amost 7 am here another sleeples night.My thought of life has always been do the others what you would like they do to yourself im not a teenager im 27 old year man. My mom have been more a like a friend then a parent since i have not lived with her since i was twelwe.But i think you are right that its better to sleep.I whole heartedly thank you guys for feeling for me.If you ever have a problem that you want to talk about.Feel free to contact poor old Kage.Thanks.~:)

Good night kage. Hope you can get some sleep.

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Originally Posted by Kagemusha

Im sorry for being so negative lately,but my mother has been missing now for almost two weeks.Tomorrow i have to start scouting the bars of eastern Helsinki with my friends and my sister to find her.
I realized to day that three weeks ago i picked her and her stuff from one drunk.And now i hope that she is with that scumback.If tomorrow i will found that the scumback have killed her .Il be couple years of this board becouse i will be in jail.But lets hope that it will not go that.

My reason to post this is just that i want to explain myself incase my worst imagination comes thruth.

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Kagemusha, goodluck to you.

All I have left to say is leave the act of punishment to the State. :bow:

ps. do continue to post with any update.

kagemusha

I hope all turns out well for both you and your mother. One's mom is the always important, so is one's family. I will add you and your mother to my prayers to hope her safe return.

Remain calm as you best you can.

One question - have you reported her missing to the authorities. They can help find out if anyone has seen her also. However I am not sure how the authorities in your nation work.

I pray that all turns out well for you.

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Originally Posted by Kagemusha

Im sorry for being so negative lately,but my mother has been missing now for almost two weeks.Tomorrow i have to start scouting the bars of eastern Helsinki with my friends and my sister to find her.
I realized to day that three weeks ago i picked her and her stuff from one drunk.And now i hope that she is with that scumback.If tomorrow i will found that the scumback have killed her .Il be couple years of this board becouse i will be in jail.But lets hope that it will not go that.

My reason to post this is just that i want to explain myself incase my worst imagination comes thruth.

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Well Kag.

What can I say?

You and I have never really interacted a whole lot on these boards. Most likely because you are either mature enough not to get caught up in the petty crap that I love to indulge in, or because while you may well enjoy a certain amount of petty crap, you have your limits, and the depths of pettyness which amuse me are considerably below your tolerance level.

What I am getting at is that you know me and I know you less than even people who are "friends" on a cult gamer site can know each other, which is to say: really not at all.

But nevertheless, I ask that you take my advice anyway.

Do not take things into your own hands.

Absolutely nothing good can come of it.

Yes, one dirtbag may be put out of commission. But another life will be ruined at the same time. And that's not a fair trade.

Wherever your mother is right now (and I'm fervently hoping that she has gone to visit an out of town friend and simply forgot to tell you), the last thing she would want you to do is piss your life away in an act of foolish vengeance.

Don't do it, my friend.

Don't even consider it.

And one other thing:

Wear sunscreen.

EDIT: Spelling.

Kag

I can't even imagine what kind of frustration you must be going through. I hope your mother is fine, but if something bad is to come of this, then I beg you to have enough strength and honour too stand aside, and let the law take care of this. Nothing good can come of you foresaking the person you are for the savage you might become. I understand that deep down, we all let our baser instincts get the better of us, and that your battle might be perhaps the hardest you ever been through, but by allowing sed instincts to take over, you will have done nothing but destroyed yourself. Pray for strength, pray for honour, but most of all pray for your mother.

God Bless,
~Waki

Dear Kage, I'm so worried to hear such news from you. I can understand how you feel when it is a matter of honour, it gets even more "dangerous" for one when someone from the core family is included.

But telling you these, I strictly want to avoid any kind of influence that would push you astray. The "actors" were not the same and the incident was different but I have lived things quite like yours that drove me how you feel right now. The problem is that those "scumbags" have nothing to lose, but -if nothing else- The Org has a wise and nice member called Kage to lose.

Wishes of common sense, endurance and wisdom from Turkey,

Stand man, this is what life is for. And keep us updated :bow:

Horrible thoughts Kagemusha, I really hope it will prove wrong.

Family is everything, and by God, I understand your anxiety. I hope that everything will turn out all right.

I will pray for you and your family.

man thats terrible! like everyone else whos posted here il pray that you moms ok, i don't wanna boss you about, but i think their right too, ive always thought the worst punishment for a scumbag like this is to force them to live with their crimes (in jail of course) rather then to die for them (and have this scumbag put out of his misery all the sooner)

Kagemusha - do you have people you can talk to about this, in real life? Relatives or close friends? This does not sound like the kind of thing you should face on your own. Approaching the police or some civic agencies (social services? church? a helpline?) might also be helpful in keeping you grounded. My impression is in Finland, people help each other out a lot and so I hope you don't have to be alone in dealing with this.

I know nothing about you or your life, except that you always seem a sensible and thoughtful poster here at the Org. My suspicion is that you may be jumping to dark thoughts too quickly. We all sometimes have uneasy "midnight thoughts" after sleepless nights. And 27 is still rather young. Maybe I am wrong, but I would urge you to get some rest, find some support and stay calm.

Wow, that is serious shit mia muca. Don't know what to say, hope it turns out well. You must be worried sick, good luck :no:

I hope everyone is ok and this situation clears itself up peacefully.

It's bad that you are having this trouble right now. It will be worse if it drags you down and destroys you.

Best wishes to you for peace in your life.

I'd tell you to chill and let the authorities handle it, but frankly I wouldn't listen to that advice if I was in your situation. Try to stay cool, try to think rationally and try not to get into too much trouble. I hope your mother is okay, don't do anything until you really know where she is and what happened in the last few weeks.

And for future reference: announcing murder plans on an internet forum is a bad idea, several people have gotten caught that way.


Strength and honour

Hey Kage,

Thats some nasty news you're delivering... Keep you're head m8... really do. Hopefully I'll catch you on msn.

Thank you guys for your support.Today we went to look for her on the local hell holes and everything is now ok,i guess.We found her on one of those places.There she was with that drunk i already mentioned.She just hadnt bothered to answer to phone to anyone and also didnt bother to call back.But to bottom line is that she is alive.Sorry guys for all this drama but i just had to get that out of my system.The last couple weeks have been really hard. But now atleast i dont have to worry so much.

Thank God your mother is safe. And thanks again that you didn't have to resort to anything drastic.

I'm glad your mom is safe. now maybe you can get some rest?

Welcome news indeed. :2thumbsup:

Ah, so glad to hear that the best out of the mess happened. And yeah, Kage, it's time for a tight rest.

Best wishes :bow:

Very sorry for the situation that you were in and very happy to hear that your mother is safe with you mate. Good luck and stay safe, we are with you...

In this world with so much bad news, it is good to hear a happy ending. Rest well Kagemusha.

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Im sorry for being so negative lately,but my mother has been missing now for almost two weeks.Tomorrow i have to start scouting the bars of eastern Helsinki with my friends and my sister to find her.
I realized to day that three weeks ago i picked her and her stuff from one drunk.And now i hope that she is with that scumback.If tomorrow i will found that the scumback have killed her .Il be couple years of this board becouse i will be in jail.But lets hope that it will not go that.

My reason to post this is just that i want to explain myself incase my worst imagination comes thruth.

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Goodluck, and hopefully you dont follow through with that plan if she is with him.

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Sun Tzu has a couple words of advice about that.

Great news Kagemusha.

Glad she is safe. Time to talk some sense into her now, you weren't worried about her partner for nothing, if he's a bastard, be a good son and break some bones.

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Now it's time get her of the booze man...

Ohhh... I just stumbled onto this.

I was really fearing you had gone and done something bad one way or the other. It is not fun to see people you consider your friends to act that way, so I'm extremely pleased you found her.

I hope you let her known how you have been feeling. And now I hope you will get her away from this... lowlife that seems to be dragging her down.

:bow: I hope you are at ease now.

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Originally Posted by Kraxis

Ohhh... I just stumbled onto this.

I was really fearing you had gone and done something bad one way or the other. It is not fun to see people you consider your friends to act that way, so I'm extremely pleased you found her.

I hope you let her known how you have been feeling. And now I hope you will get her away from this... lowlife that seems to be dragging her down.

:bow: I hope you are at ease now.

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Seconded! Very glad she's alright.

Just seen this. You've got my support man. Glad everything wasn't as bad as you thought. Sometimes, even God needs a break from all the pain and suffering.

Hi Kagemusha,

I've just come across this and read it all through.
I've to say that I'm happy that everything is back to (semi-)normal again.

I find it a bit disconcerting when people post their very personal stuff on this board. Most of you I just know by their avatars and when this virtual world suddenly turns very real (like the death of Gawains brother, or the guy who committed suicide) it is .... well, scary.
Don't get me wrong, mate, this is no critique. I'm glad you posted and I'm glad
you're okay. But to read such a thread in the morning makes me a bit sad.
My thoughts are with you... :bow:

R'as

Thank you all for your support and advices.:bow: Im sorry if i upset any of you with my angry feelings.The lack of sleep and the stress and agony becouse someone so important for me was missing,i think caused that the darker side of my personality took over.Im happy know knowing that mom is alive and more or less allright if that is the right term.Its very hard to have this kind of problem in the family and we are trying to help her anyway we can,but unfortunately the final decision is hers.We cant commit her to treatment without if she accepts that herself.I really hope she comes to that conclusion before its too late.I know im not the only one that has this kind of problems in his or her family and wish them strength to overcome those problems.

If possible could moderator close this thread.The issue is so personal and it reminds me off feelings i would more like to forget.Thank you all.~:)