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Ok fellow Orghas!Lets settle this or once and all,now that the French have pwned the Texans~D ,lets settle whats the best country in EU.This time we dont need Swords,axes,tanks or aeroplanes.A simple vote is enough that will close in one week..~:cheers: I would have made a poll covering whole Europe but there are more countries then we can have poll options.:embarassed:
Ireland! High (est) birth rate and good economy mean they'll still be there when London is officially renamed Londonstan.
Plus, my ancesters came from there.
Crazed Rabbit
Gah! Tie between Austria, Italy, and Germany.
I'll post photos from the pro-Free Speech march that's on Saturday.~;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Crazed Rabbit
I voted Gah!
None of them qualifies as a single nation.
GB is nice, rather powerful, cool language, but making bad wars, getting votes from warmongers here and no option for me.
Spain is nice, I like especially the character of all spanish women I know(ok, can think of only two now).
Germany is pwn, but from Wilhelm II on there have been few if any really competent rulers, doesn´t qualify.
Netherlands aka Dutchiestan is my dad´s homecountry, some nice people, some strange guys, all in all, doesn´t qualify.
Sweden, nice women, nice attitude, but too liberal for my taste.
Czech Republic aka pornoland qualifies for fun factor, but that doesn´t make it great.
Don´t really know about the rest, so I´m left with Gah!
Well hmmm...how to advertize Finland...Well we have 187 888 lakes bigger then 5 acres (500 m2),which you can jump if you feel like.:fishbowl:
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Wheres the US. We should make a poll of the whole world Ill get right on that it might take a while though. For some reason I voted for Latvia Ill probably be the only one. hahaha.
The moderators should let us make one huge poll of all the countries in the world I would happly do it
The United Kingdom.
Sweden. Followed by the other Scandinavian countries, (although Ive never actually been to Finland unfortunately, but I have some friends from Helsinki) and Germany.:book: :juggle2:
Sweden obviously.
I think it's only fair to vote for places I've actually been. Ireland, Spain & England are all up there too. But Oulu is one of my most favorite places in the world.
There's not much of Europe that I don't like. I learned to keep very quiet and affect a Latin American accent while in Netherlands, and I was rather nervous about my personal safety while in Milan (the only part of Italy I've been to, and from what I know, it's very different than the rest of Italy). But other than the lack of friendliness of the locals, they had their redeeming qualities.
Come to think of it, I'm the Will Rogers of geography... I've never been to a place that I don't like. I even like New Jersey. :oops:
i say czech. i've found czech models much more ....open, i guess... than models i have met from other countries. oh man. i've been to prague, btw and it's not only incredibly cheap but a beautiful city.
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Is that the standard:
Their counties dollar is weak so they go weak at the knees.
Or is it more of a cultural thing?
Tie between Ireland and Germany for me. I chose Germany since I'll almost definately be spending next year over there.:2thumbsup:
Then freeze your buns off!:2thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by Kagemusha
Sweden: the home of Paradox Interactive
Lithuania. My Maths teacher was Lithuanian, her accent was a bit dodgy, but my bloody god.. new pants plz.
I would have to say UK,
I must admit I'm quite ignorant to the EU system. From what I've understood the EU is basicly a federal government of the signed countries? Do the countries remain sovereign?
Also the UK losing her money is quite sad. The pound and the smaller coins were quite beautiful. Personally like the look of alot of the old British imperial coins. Quite sad they switch to the idiotic Euro.
Confederal, actually. Each country is sovereign, it just transfers some of it's power to the central EU goverment.Quote:
Originally Posted by BigTex
That said, Ireland. Liked it quite well when I was there. and it is also a shining beacon of hope for countries in transition and third-world countries ... or something like that.
You were going to get lynched if you spoke normally or something? :dizzy2: :inquisitive:Quote:
Originally Posted by Don Corleone
Ireland, the funnest time I ever had in any country. I just didn't feel so good on the way back home.
Omigod, run and hide!!! :hide:Quote:
Originally Posted by BigTex
Ok, only teasing. It's just that the alleged desire of the EU to become a federation of states is extremely contentious in many countries - France and Germany were moving the EU in that direction, but have rather gone off the idea, the UK was very, very strongly against and still is. The EU Commission (the non-elected governing body for the EU made up of appointed ex-ministers from all countries) is still thought to be working towards such a project.
The EU is not even a confederation at this stage, just a loose alliance of countries bound together by treaties and common aims, mainly economically based. A proposed constitution for the grouping, which would have rationalised and codified the pre-existing treaties was rejected in referenda in several key countries, notably France (a big political player in the EU project) which should have killed it stone dead. As always with politicians however, a little thing like popular rejection has only made them more determined to sneak it through.
All the countries in the EU are sovereign states, but have assigned some element of that sovereignty to the EU - each country to a greater or lesser degree. Yes, it's complicated ~D
In a nutshell, the EU doesn't know what it wants to be, and every nation in it has a different idea, apart from the belief that they should be top dog. :wall: At least we're not shooting at one another anymore.
You'll be glad to know that the pound sterling is still in existence and used. The UK rejected the euro - so far, which has preserved it from the weak economic performance of the euro-zone. The Brits did change their old imperial coins and notes in 1971 to a decimal system, but this is still pounds and pence - just no shillings. ~:)Quote:
Originally Posted by BigTex
Denmark, Sweden or Holland - I voted Denmark cos Im living there.
The east of the Netherlands is still bearable but the Netherlands as a whole has gone bleh, I don't like living here anymore. I think Ireland is currently the most pleasant country to live, lots of space and generally very warm people.
:laugh4: Thanks for proving my point of pornoland.:laugh4:Quote:
Originally Posted by solypsist
Been to Prague myself, it´s nice, all the buildings and so on, but it was also pornoland, judging by what the taxidriver had in his car, by the guy who made a pic of a girl´s behind in the underground and all those strange people standing around in some parts of the city, oh and it was the first and only city where I ever walked by some prostitutes(I know they exist everywhere, but this was the only city where I ever got close to some that were "working").
Was a funny trip indeed, but doesn´t qualify for me.
Oh, concerning the prices, generally yes, but we were in a restaurant next to this big castle(forgot the name) and it was really expensive there, I payed 8 Euros for a small rumpsteak(I think) with some egg...
Let's see.....
Greece is nice and hot, and cheap if you get away from the tourist areas.
Italy is like Greece but not as safe, (not just Milan Don, I was advised not to sleep in my vehicle when travelling through), plus it's in the 1st world. :2thumbsup:
San Marino not in the EU, but you have to admire such a small country (3rd smallest in the world) for keeping independence from Italy. And I got the chance to cross the Rubicon. :inquisitive:
Switzerland, again not in the EU but very clean and dapper. Plus the Swiss seem more laid back than their more northerly neighbours. Downside; they make you pay a full years vehicle tax even though you are only passing through.
France Like Italy can be expensive to travel through, if you use the toll roads. I dont and so get to see areas of rural France which is very beautiful. It reminds me of the Yorkshire Dales in places only much sunnier. :laugh4:
Luxembourg Lots of rolling hills and lots of trees, I tend to slip into 5th gear and put my foot down. :embarassed:
Belgium Flatter than Luxembourg and with cities. Antwerp is a bit of a hole, but it gets extra points for having women sat in their bungalows with a red light on the porch....:2thumbsup: ...Oh and the beers not bad either.
Netherlands I liked this country, a lot. Nice people, good beer and food not too dissimilar to the UK. You have to have a spliff as well, it's the law. :sweatdrop:
UK As a northener I look at the south and north as almost different countries. London is a ********, so I only go there when I have no choice. However in the north we have the most beautiful countryside and best quality of life.
My choice?
Switzerland and the Netherlands tie.
The Netherlands would win hands down if it was a bit further south and hence warmer. :2thumbsup:
As a 'Londoner', I know that anything that is worth paying attention to happens here.~;p
Sweden.
Schweden Schweden Uber Alles! *coughs* sorry....
... anyway, Ofcourse I voted for my own country. Nice to see so many voting for us blond, liberal people here up in the north. :jumping:
Scandinavia.
They show how societies really should function. Compared to them, the rest of the world behaves like a bunch of monkeys in a cage. :embarassed:
Norway is the prettiest, Sweden has the fairest women, but Denmark rulez.
This could lead to a really unfortunate fetishQuote:
Originally Posted by Justiciar
"Honey, talk dirty to me"
"Ok, I love the feel of your..."
"no no, you know, the other stuff. The really dirty stuff"
"Do I have to?"
"Pleeese..."
"Oh, OK. there are a number of forms of partial differential equation, including elliptic, parabolic, and hyperbolic..."
Sweden is a pleasant country, but the prices are way too high for my liking, same with Denmark and Norway. Life is just too expensive over there, in my experience people are barely managing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lazul
It is expensive, but wages are comparable. We are more than managing. The growth of personal spending has soared the last 15 years. Every christmas it is another shock as to how much is spent. Even the 'poor' have internet, cellphones and often a car.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fragony
That is hardly 'barely managing'. And last year the government 'discovered' a surplus on the budget of just above 10%... That is a great deal!
I have family in Denmark, I visit your country quite a lot. The wages are about the same as here in Holland, IT-business being somewhat better. Almost every family in Denmark has both parents working, and that is not progressive but a necesity. The houses are pretty cheap though, lots of space, but oh boy the groceries, and going to restaurants (which I like to do at least twice a week) is madness. 40 euro for a plain pizza yay :laugh4: But having said that, Kopenhagen is great just for having Tivoli, awesome place.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kraxis
Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth the Second's United Kingdom of GREAT Britain :2thumbsup:
Dont worry about your buns Alexanderofmacedon~;) In Summer the water is very warm.Our Summers are hot and Winters cold.In a Winter you would get your bottom only bruised if you would try to jump through the half meter of ice.~DQuote:
Originally Posted by Alexanderofmacedon
Potverdekke! It's great to be a Belgian,
I'm not English, I'm not French and I'm not Dutch,
I'm not Spanish, Portuguese or German
I'm a Belgian so thank you very much!
As I walk along the street, with my mayonnaise and frites,
You can tell I'm as happy as can be.
With my Duvel in my hand then you must understand,
I'm a Belgian so nothing worries me!
Potverdekke! It's great to be a Belgian,
I'm not English, I'm not French and I'm not Dutch,
'm not Irish, Italian or Danish
I'm a Belgian so thank you very much!
Without the Belgians there would be no saxophone,
No Tintin, Captain Haddock or Poirot.
And you'll excuse me if I've missed anybody off the list,
These are the only Belgians that I know!
Potverdekke! It's great to be a Belgian,
I'm not English, I'm not French and I'm not Dutch,
I'm not Finnish, Austrian or Swedish
I'm a Belgian so thank you very much
Now the English egg and bacon's not so bad,
Especially since all their cows went mad.
But if they've never tasted mussels, on the Grand Place
down in Brussels,
It's no wonder they re feeling very sad!
Potverdekke! It's great to be a Belgian,
I'm not English, I'm not French and I'm not Dutch,
I'm not Spanish, Portuguese or German
I'm a Belgian so thank you very much
I'm a Belgian, I'm not Irish, I'm not Greek,
I don't drink Guinness or Retsina, I drink Kriek!
On the Schelde or the Meuse, you find me drinking Geuze,
Or Leffe, or Chimay, or Lambic!
Potverdekke! It's great to be a Belgian,
I'm not English, I'm not French and I'm not Dutch,
And me, I'm not a Luxemburger
I'm a Belgian so thank you very much!
Ohw yeah almost forgot to say, I voted Belgium...
Sweden is probably the best country in the world, objectively.
Europe!
Actually, yes. I don't want to run your country down, but the people in Amersterdam, at various levels, weren't particularly friendly, and that's a serious understatement.Quote:
Originally Posted by [DnC]
40 Euro??? Where do you go? I hardly ever pay more than 5.5 euro for a plain pizza, most often cheaper. 40 euros for a single person is considered an expensive night out, and I tell you that you can get fod and drinks for less than that in the vast majority of restaurents in Copenhagen. Maybe you shouldn't be going to D'angleterre or some other posh place...Quote:
Originally Posted by Fragony
Houses are not cheap... Apartments in Copenhagen have just been announced to some of the most expensive in Europe. Of course it is cheaper in Jutland or in the country but it is like that everywhere.
A lot of room? Hah! I think the apartment I share with my GF is nice, but it certainly not big. 57 square meters.
We do all work, but not because we absolutely have to, not everybody. But we are inticed to do so, but it i like this in most of Europe now. We (as in both parents) get a year off from the job to take care of the newborn child, and most often you can get it extended.
Groceries are expensive, that is true, but at least they are more expensive in Swden and Norway.~:rolleyes: ~;)
...isn't a country...:dizzy2:Quote:
Originally Posted by A.Saturnus
Is an illusion! :2thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by A.Saturnus
I don't mind London, and don't have anything against the South in general.. but it's that attitude (even though you're joking) that really gets up my arse. Everywhere in the UK outside of the South East is basically a bunch of hilly fields populated by neanderthals. The problem is that isn't acctually an uncommon view.. every time I go down there and someone hears my accent I get the same bullshit. At least I'm not Welsh.. poor sods. Not that I'm fit to complain though, I can often be just as biggotted and I know I'm not alone in that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kanamori
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Originally Posted by English assassin
wait people dont like the welsh?
Unfortunately not. I wouldn't call it hatred, but people here aren't exactly friendly towards them. It's just coded into the English psyche from a young age, it would seem. The Welsh interfere with sheep - end of story. I'm a 3rd Welsh, myself, so I'm not about to agree.
Could you please acompany me to some medical facility... Don't worry, we are only going to take a few tests, nothing serious. Oh, and of course there will be questions as to your grandmother's unfertilized birth. People will be very interested in knowing how you could end up as a third Welsh.Quote:
Originally Posted by Justiciar
40 euro's!? To me 10 euro's is already expensive! Hell before the euro paying for a pizza was usually between 8-15 gulden (guilders). Also, I still find going out to a restaurant expensive. I'll settle for the occasional visit. So if it's really that expensive in Denmark..yikes..!Quote:
Originally Posted by Fragony
Ofcourse I understand. I myself even experience very asocial behaviour there compared to where I'm from. One of the reasons I'd rather never live in a big city. I was just curious, because I've never heard of that before.Quote:
Originally Posted by Don Corleone
I actually don't agree with my own vote, but you know...Motherland & all that..
well thats a load of crap, :laugh4: ,the only thing that costs Alot here is alcohol... wich is a good thing anyway. :2thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by Fragony
People should know that those who are "poor" here arent living in total missery and despair. (ofcourse, therer are those who do that, but its a very small % of the population).
I lived poor a few years on my own, had broadband, cable tv. :jumping:
its gotta be the UK for so many reasons
look at it on a map its bloddy tiny, France, Spain, Germany are all loads bigger but non of their empires were ever as big and powerful as the British Empire.
Hitler thought that he could capture england, he had most of europe but we stopped him, this tiny isle!
in the georgan period at one time we were at war with every country in europe except portugal (and they didn't like us much either)
In the 100 years war, we took huge areas in france
and we have only a few hundred thousand less people then france! (and about 20 million more then spain!)
Hmm... I haven`t been that far, and my own country isn`t a member of the EU. I think I should say Denmark; it`s just a completely flat country. :inquisitive:
Please take look at my post in response to Frag. Why you would take the comment of a foreigner over a local I don't know...:dizzy2:Quote:
Originally Posted by [DnC]
Hmm I have been to most West European countries, but no longer than say 2 - 3 weeks.
So having to make a choice with such lack of experience / knowledge on the countries I;m considering is hard...
So I'm going to have to vote for my own country being Holland.
With England a close second.
:balloon2:
I hadn't read your post :embarassed: I replied to Fragony and Don Corleone and stopped reading there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kraxis
While my duty was to vote for my home country, I decided to vote the country in which I would like to live in the most. My vote goes to Austria
A random clutter of Welshfolk throughout my family tree brings it to about a third, though that isn't exact. Clever you though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kraxis
Germany, of course.
Gotta love that nationalism. :2thumbsup:
Its always nice to visit our European neighbours, but i still think the UK is the best :2thumbsup:
you've spelt cyprus wrong.... but i voted the UK mainly because i live there so it is kinda cheating... i would have voted spain since i love the spanish weather, food, people and generally spain
You forgot wales...
wales is part of the UK
Oh come on, the English make fun of the Welsh it's true but I've never seen a Welshman subjected to any hatred, after all many Englishman are of Welsh descent or have some Welsh (or Irish - me - or Scottish blood), but I've come across genuine backwoods 'hatred' as an Englishman in Wales, really nasty stuff.Quote:
Originally Posted by Justiciar
But, I'd like to add, I don't hate the Welsh, they're some of the best people I've met, some really good friends. You get pillocks everywhere.
:inquisitive: :fainting:Quote:
Originally Posted by InsaneApache
that's a good thing? :dizzy2:Quote:
...and food not too dissimilar to the UK
Malta you idoits
you're calling us idiots and you can't even spell it... :laugh4:
joke... malta was my third choice... my grandparents are moving there soon and it is a pleasant place to visit
no it isnt. :wall:Quote:
Originally Posted by GiantMonkeyMan
Well it is, if you just fancy egg, ham and cheese on toast as a snack. :2thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by Gertgregoor
Slovenia.
[The natural choice.]
Well this was on the ferry to Sweden, may have added a bit :laugh4: But those scandinavians here saying that 5 euro for a pizza is a lot in Blondistan, get real! I am not talking about the pizzahut here, but real restaurants with actual food, the prices are insane.Quote:
Originally Posted by [DnC]
@Don Corleone, americans tend to have a harder time in Amsterdam, or really just about everyone that can spell capitalism correctly and likes to shower on daily bases.
Ferry prices are always high... Can't get around that, but I can't believe that even there it would be 300kr for a pizza.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fragony
As I said, that is fairly much for even real restaurents.
I have a nice special place, that is located in a very expensive place (next to Tivoli's main entrance on a busy road). It specializes in steaks, and I mean it. Those steaks are just the best there is! name: A Hereford's Beefstouw. Supreme. When I go there I spend 250kr (33 euro) on the steak and a few more on a beer (from the little specialist brewery next door). The beer is specifically made for steaks, so it is a perfect combo.
I love the place. And I can safely tell you that it is not a cheap place, it is considered quite expensive.
So perhaps you should get real. Or perhaps not get ripped off next time.
Tivoli, Apollo pilsner og en sod Dansk pige! :jumping:Quote:
Originally Posted by Kraxis
That trio still ranks as one of my best days ever. I don't care about Danish rip-off prices, I would've paid ten times the amount.:balloon2:
Of course Poland - maybe not richest but most interesting :laugh4:
Hehe... I think we have almost all experienced similar is various countries around the world. That is called spreading the genes.:2thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by Louis VI the Fat