Id like a R2TW of course thats just my opnion. ALSO NEXT TOTAL WAR GAME
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Id like a R2TW of course thats just my opnion. ALSO NEXT TOTAL WAR GAME
R2TW expansion for MTWII? :inquisitive:
And expansion is something based on the original game. It's really weird to have RomeII as an expansion for Medieval TWII.
Something like the "Rise of the Mongol Empire" would rule!!!! Or the Ottoman Empire. Byzanz would be cool too...well, we will see, right?!?!?
how true. i should have also said next total war game too.Quote:
Originally Posted by edyzmedieval
updated ^ ^
read my first post.
A more in depth campaign map of the eastern mediteranean, where the emphasis lies on the crusader/latin states versus the muslims, versus the Byzantines. Smaller scope, more in-depth detail and more regional specific units. Ooh, and mongols.
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I don't really mind, but Rome 2: Total War sounds particularly delicious...
An expansion starting from the High Renaissance lasting until the siege of Viena (1683) or beyond this moment a decade or so. It's a period dominated by conflicts, including the Thirty Years War, and major developments in the battlefield tactics. The New World could be in this expansion another battleground for the European powers.
I voted for a Napoleonic setting, though I would also be partial to a Viking Invasion. However, my first choice for another game would be one in the medieval time period but set in the far east, incorporating China, Korea, Mongolia, Japan, India, Vietnam etc. (amongst others). One could also have Europeans appear at a late date, Shogun style.
I would like to have Viking invasion as an expansion pack because i would like the others to be seperate games.
Vikings for me, how I miss those 12 bezerkers that annihilated the saxons...
Would be nice if they made an expansion which expanded more upon the western side of the map.
Read: South America.
No way they're going to leave out the Aztecs et all in the expansion.
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Expansion pack with expanded maps and 100 faction limit :laugh4:
They might do as an expansion :
- a renaissance/conquest of the Americas expansion (most likely, maybe even two expansions, one focusing on Europe
and one on the Americas)
- a dark ages expansion (too overdone already ?)
- a Shogun expansion (too different ?)
No way will they do a compelety different era like Rome or a true gunpowder game. Shogun *might* be a possibility since the basic mechanics are similar (reusable code), the Japan map would be rather small (compared to Europe + Americas) and the factions would be rather similar (less new models, less balancing). However I highly doubt that we will see a Shogun expansion. I believe I'm the first one who suggested such a thing might be feasible and it seems to have caught on with some people, but it was mostly just wishful thinking on my part. An expansion tends to *expand* the original game, and a Shogun expansion would probably just be too different.
As a next game:
-Napoleon: Total War (that's what I would like to see, I think it would be a nice change, the TW formula is wearing a
bit thin for me in its current form)
-Rome 2: Total war (that's honestly what I expect, but I'll probably feel like it will be to soon, especially since RTW never did it for me, but it was the first TW game for a lot of people)
-Something set in Asia (doubtful, not enough mass market appeal)
-Colonization: Total War (I can dream can't I ?)
I voted for Viking Invasion. I want the vikings and such. That would be great fun. I think for the next game they could have a Total War set in the Middle East and extends to India. That would be awesome. It would supply a new setting, new troops, a new map, and a whole new strategy to the game. India's war Elephants, Clavary Archers everywhere, cities' crops depending on the monsoons of the Indus Valley. That would be awesome. I am also throughly opposed to gun powder. I just don't like it. It ruins the up-clos-and-personal Total War battles I have come to know and love.
I think that's a great idea.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kralizec
I would like to see something related to the muslims next time. Their history provides a great setting for the total war engine, with constant expansion, militarism, civil wars, rebellions, crusades, jihads.
Anyways, I voted for napoleonic, best choice there is.:balloon2:
I think the time period would be better suited for an Ottoman Invasion than anything else.
I second this. The Ottoman expansion in Anatolia and the Balkan would be a nice expansion pack. The idea of a setting in the middle-east, containing the war between crusaders and muslims is a nice idea, too. Viking Invasion was great, but I'm not sure if I would like to see it again... I want something different now...Quote:
Originally Posted by Zalmoxis
The end game setting leads me to believe the expansion will be about the reniassance period, with an expanded americas map that will include north america and more american factions, ending up with the war of independence probably.
Who knows though, RTW got 2 expansions, so i'm betting on a dark ages expansion as well.
an expansion where the mp works, and the armies and gameplay are balanced..... :balloon2:
Fooey... I voted anything as long as no gunpowder.
Three of these choices (Rome2, Shogun2, Napoleonic) are NOT going to happen as an expansion. Those are full games. So the poll is a bit silly (IMO). And it leaves out what I think is the most logical expansion pack: Pirates of the Caribbean!
Seriously... if you have a foothold in the Americas, then why not an expansion pack that extends the game into the next colonial period in that area? It's ideal because you'd still need to hold your territories in Europe, as well as compete economically and militarily in the Americas. Of course the ship combat would suck, unless they really start working on a tactical sea combat engine.
Maybe a Conquistador Invasion, where you are opposing the Spaniards.Quote:
Originally Posted by faisal
They'll probably save their content and put it in their revolutionary path instead, but it would be great to add STW2 as an expansion to MTW2. For $30? Unlikely, but still, would be nice ~:)
No no no. People, CRUSADER:total war.
Based on the latin states in the east.
"I dont care as long as it has gunpowder in it"
I voted for this.
A renaissance exp.pack would be a nice choice IMO.:2thumbsup:
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Originally Posted by Masy
i have to admit i like the barbarians in the viking expansion and with the new engine it would be extremely awesome to see hordes of vikings,irish,saxons and more storm the fields of Britain!:2thumbsup:
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Originally Posted by A.Saturnus
Thanks, I also think that ideally the expansion would differentiate between Shia and Sunni muslims. It would be more interesting, not to mention much more historicly accurate.
No no no Crusader INVASION : Total War, can't forget that important word :laugh4:Quote:
Originally Posted by holybandit
Total War:The Rise of Islam. I have always wanted to see this played out. It’s just a perfect setting: Byzantium is on the verge of reforming the empire, the de facto Western Empire has fallen but the de jure Empire remains. Although I’m no fan of Roman and Byzantine style politics I would like to try to react against the lighting fast spread of Islam and reform the Byzantine army/government. It was the rise of Islam which closed the Mediterranean to all but a few Italian merchant states and plunged Europe into the Dark ages. As Byzantium you’d have to watch while your non-core states brake away and Musulman fleets threaten your capitol. After all, how long did it take Europe to push back the tide in Iberia? It’s just too exciting: fast paced invasion, a weakened Byzantium, the upstart monarchies in Europe, all before the Church acquired the dominance we see in the Medieval period.
If CA doesn’t make this expansion I would love to help create it. I’m sure our neglected Total Warriors in Eastern Europe and Muslim states would appreciate it as well.
Vladimir, you mean you would like to play Rome:TW: Barbarian Invasion? If i'm not mistaking, you can play as the Eastern Romans and fight the Sassanid Empire!
That's before the church takes control of europe, as we will have the pope again in MTW2. An expansion pack isn't going to remove the pope, and if it is, well... perhaps. RTW graphics can use a an upgrade as well of course, but i think you will agree Shogun graphics need it more! ~:)
For the rise of Islam: total war, I have the perfect idea. The great Ummayad Empire, much larger and powerful than the Romans ever were, but only survived 92 years, constant internal strife and dissidence being the main factor.
Hoping not to see Viking Invasion as the expansion. While I enjoyed the original VI, it just seems to limited in scope and variety to interest me enough to fork over cash for a second version of it.
I'd prefer to see a Dark Ages and/or Islam Expansion. CA might possibly be able to combine them depending on the number of factions required. Probably be more realistic to not combine them in terms of game design. In that case either would be interesting to me.
As far as the next TW? Since the redesign the basic game engine every other TW (which means the next TW would be from scratch.) I think this would be the perfect time to introduce the Total War series to gunpowder combat. Can't think of a better time period to do that then the Napoleonic Wars. Lots of other conflics during that time period which could be used for an expansion.
Of course if CA really really doesn't want to play with gunpowder for the next TW, then something around the Seven Kingdoms time frame (i.e. China) would be interesting I think. Seven Kingdoms would be my second choice though. Napoleonic would be my prefered. :2thumbsup:
The arab expansions occured during the time of the dark ages of europe. so that would fit in nicely as an expansion. I just hope I do not see another VI expansion. CA HEAR US!Quote:
Originally Posted by magnum
if you chosen Rome2 or Shogun2 then it counts as a full game. read the first post of this thread. (mine)Quote:
Originally Posted by Zenicetus
Without reading the other replies, I'd like to see an expansion set during the Viking Age, but not limited to the British Isles. Rather, it would be like RTW's BI, which used the same map as the normal campaign, but had different factions and region boundaries. A unified Viking faction, while terribly unrealistic, would be tons of fun. Magyars would also be a must.
Yes, i think STW 2 would be a good game, i assume you got the idea from my thread? With all the new technology from MTW and RTW, Shogun would be awesome.
I want Rome 2 because I will love to see different armour and uniforms at the same unit type and blooded ones at those who fight
Not to mention the different AI and diplomacy that will be in MT2....i want that in RTw2
It would be kind of cool yes, but why would you remake a whole game and not change the unit types, perhaps a mod would be better for a RTW 2? You could have all of your different armour and uniforms, and you could mod the diplomacy a bit.Quote:
Originally Posted by scorillo
No, not quite, in less the expansion begins at 600 A.D. and ends before 1000. My understanding of BI is that it concerns the Huns and various other invaders that threatened the old order and feasted upon a dying Rome.Quote:
Originally Posted by sunsmountain
You are correct. BI features three religions: paganism, Christianity, and Zoraostaism (probably misspelt). No Islam. It starts sometime in the 300's A.D.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vladimir
I like the idea of an expansion pack set during that time period (Islam's rise). I wonder if it would be necessary to enlarge the map to include more of the Arabian peninsula. Kind of hard to imagine an expansion focused around the spread of Islam without Mecca or at least Medina.
I'd still really like to see a grand campaign (that is, full map, not limited to a smaller region) that starts during the Viking Age, too .
MTW was originally called Crusader: Total War, but the name was considered too politically incorrect and was changed to Medieval.Quote:
Originally Posted by NagatsukaShumi
For an expansion I would like to see Reformation: Total War.
For the next full game it simpy has to be Napoleonic: Total War :2thumbsup:
Hey, where's the "GAH!" option?? [mock sigh]
Well minus that, I voted for "I dont care as long as it has no gunpowder in it." With the exception of mortar and cannons for siege battles, I don't think firearms lend themselves very well to the TW style of gaming. As a separate game, I would love to see Shogun 2. Not sure what I'd want in an expansion, although The Rise of Islam sounds kind of cool. :2thumbsup:
Hmm, what options are there?
So far, the trend is:
= Major power attacks, seemingly unstoppable
= Set after the original timeframe
= NEW FACTION(S) are the threat
So, let's see the current suggestions.
= Crusaders:
- Those factions are already in the game
- Crusaders most definitely were stoppable
- Doesn't the game begin at the crusading era?
= Islam
- Started spreading before M2TW
- Are already in the game
= Dark Ages
- No unstoppable power really
- The hordes that started the Dark Age were unstoppable, and are already represented in Barbarian Invasion.
- Set before the original
= Some kind of gunpowder era
- Guns just don't work that well with TW does it?
- It's way back from the TW era
- Blitzes would be too easy since transportation would be easier and it'd be more advanced
= America (My Idea)
- Set after the original era [tick]
- New faction [tick]
- Sadly, not exactly unstoppable [cross]
A dark age expansion would probably center around the islamic conquests. The problem I see is that the only other viable faction I can think of is the Frankish kingdom. If Karl Martel didn't beat the Moors at Poitiers, the muslims would have overrun Europe because there was no other power that could possibly stop them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tiberius
Actually Viking Invasion was set before the original time frame. Thus a rise of islam expanison is considerable.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tiberius
They would probably try to name it like the other expansions, so keep it with a creative Invasion at the end of a name. EX: Ummayadan Invasion, Islamic Invasion, etc.
I would hope to see a CA member contribute to this thread.
I personally see that european based expansions have been concentrated on alot, and shogun is an entirely new game, not an expansion, I would like to see the middle east focused upon abit, in an expansion called "Rise of Islam", or "Arabian Conquests" or "Ummayad Empire".
I honestly don't see them doing an Islam Invasion considering the sensitivity about anything Islam in Europe these days. I even doubt they'd go for Ottoman invasion. My money is still on American Invasion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zalmoxis
The territory expanding of the ottomans wasn't exactly an "invasion" by the way. Invasions left ruins behind them, ottomans didn't. The same counts for islam.
for an expansion id like a M2:TW VI2
The idea of expanding the "range" of the expansion makes for a better game I think. Something like VI:TW, would only focus on scandinavia, the british isles, and probably northern france. Ottoman Invasion would only focus on Anatolia, and Southern/Eastern Europe.
However, something like Umayyad Empire:TW, or Napoleonic:TW, would focus on the entire area around the meditteranean, and that would make for a better game all in all.
I was gonna say something like that about the Islamic one, but I got lazy, sorry.Quote:
Originally Posted by ivoignob
30 Year War..
If they made a couple of expansions, and Shogun 2 was included, my father and I, would be very content indeed.
Umayyad Invasion would be great. Or perhaps we could have MTW2:Mongol Invasion 2? An expasion that would deal with Mongol invasion under Ghengis Khan of China, Persia, India etc.
If there is to be Shogun 2, it should be a new game, not an expansion, as the setting and date differs alot from the potential mother game, MTW2Quote:
Originally Posted by Divine Wind
yea, the original could be improved so much. A shogun 2 would be awesome with all the new graphics and engines.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ibn Munqidh
I think the only logical expansion would be the Americas: Total War. Pretty much picking up where the discovery of the new world in the original campaign leaves off. More colonial units and such, playing in a map of the American continents. Yep... that'd be pretty nice...
I would love to see a Rome 2 though, although that's probably better left for the modders.
Latin states/ and or a byzatine map.
one thing
the east, i.e. asia inc japan
RTW and BI covered the history of Rome. I dont know what they could do with a RTW2. I would actually like to see a whole new TW game. Maybe Mongolia:Total War or China:Total War
I still really dig the idea of China Total War, set in the Spring & Autumn period. ~:)Quote:
Originally Posted by Hannibal99
Has anyone ever thought of "Muslim Invasion", an expansion which would chronicle the Moorish conquest of the Iberian peninsula. That would be a fresh and new experience (to me at least). Perhaps instead of the barbarians invading and crushing the civilized world it could be the other way around.
*edit*
Looking over the thread I realize that the idea has been touched upon. Sorry.
Dont the Almohads in MTW cover the muslim invasion of Spain?
No, the time period of MTW covers the gradual expulsion of Islam from the Iberian Peninsula. By that time, the balance of power in Spain lay increasingly with the northern Visigothic States, who eventually expelled the Muslims in the 15th century. The Moors actually invaded (colonized might be a better word) the Iberian peninsula during the Dark Ages, a little earlier than the period of Viking raids in northern Europe, and were extremely successful, putting almost all of the peninsula under Muslim rule. They reached as far as extreme southern France, but were halted at the Battle of Tours by the Frankish duke Charles Martel. It's an immensely important event in European history, a pivotal battle; things wouldn't be the same today if "the Hammer" had been defeated.
not VI2: it would be far too predictible...
S2TW: could be nice to get polished
also some expansion about the crusader states would be nice
with an expanded middle east territory
it's still medieval after all ...
:idea2: Arch
STW.....make the map big....the turns cover less time.....add the possibility of a Korean campaign, Mongols of course.....
...what I would love to see is not just waltzing into a province, win a battle, seige a castle...and you take the province. But with a lrger map and shorter turns there will be more strategy involved......like maybe taking a series of castles in order to assault the main castle.....anyway there is such potential........
...yea and WHY dont they EVER include a modders kit with their games. They know you guys are gonna mod it, and they SHOULD love that, because it extends the playability of their product. Has anyone ever approached them about it?
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I would say the European Invasion , It would be cool to have a more detailed setting for Europeans when they invade the New World , so more local factions and all the colonial factions from Europe......
Ok, finally found this on the official site:
Not having BI I did not know when the game ended so when someone responded to my suggestion about a Rise of Islam Total War, that this had already been covered in BI, I didn't know how to respond. I think a good ~400 year (or 200 turn, whatever) expansion from ~600 - ~1,000 A.D. would be a great idea.Quote:
476 AD
The last Roman Emperor in the West, Romulus Augustulus, is deposed and allowed to retire to his estate because he isn't important enough to murder. This formally marks the Fall of the Roman Empire, even though the Eastern Empire lasts nearly a thousand years longer. So starts the period that is often referred to as the "Dark Ages". Rome Total War™ - Barbarian Invasion nominally ends in this year.
Do most of the people here want a gunpowder expansion? Having a game based on gunpowder (as opposed to leading to) seems contrary to the Total War philosophy. What are your thoughts against this proposal? MTW went backwards and north to the Isles, why can’t M2 go back and south?
Hello;
IMO Napoleanic:TOTAL WAR should be the next total war game ,and after that ROME 2:TOTAL WAR.
About M2:TW expansion ,Rise of Islam:Total War is good idea.As an Iranian would like to fight off the invasion of those nomadic Arabs invader into my country and get Sassanid empire back to power again.~;) However this subject contains the same factions and map in BI.I preffer a new subject with new factions and new map.Somthing like Rise of Persia.
Cheers
-Kambiz
Well the Napoleonic era is one of the most exciting times in European history. My biggest problem with later ear epochs is the global colonial aspect. If they can make a Total War game on the scale of Europa Universalis, I would be much happier.
OT: You’re from Iran? Cool! I hope things cool down between our two countries as I’ve always been fascinated by your history.
I hope so Vladimir ,But Where are you from?
Well it's not like CA to do a bad expansion pack... (ignores people who brought ATW) ....so I guess we'll just have to wait and see.
Maybe something to do with the wars of the Reformation period (The Reformation started in 1517 yet I haven't heard of Protestantism featuring in Medieval II. Does it come up later in the game?), or Voyages of Discovery other than South America e.g. Magellan, Prince Henry the Navigator. Also I would extend the map to include more of Africa and most of the Asian coast. Remember that the Portuguese and Spanish empires began in the 1400's and included Cape Verde, the Spice Islands (Indonesia), Phillipines etc. Maybe call it "Conquistadors - Total War".
I would like to see an expansion entitled (drumroll) VIENNA: TOTAL WAR
Lemme break it down for you.
This expansion would have two start points.
Long campaign would begin on the eve of the Battle of Mohacs in 1526. The Turks are expanding into Europe hot and heavy. There's the threat of a second Mongol invasion. Russia is just coming into their own. Poland (yes Poland) is one of the strongest military powers in Europe. We can get a little 30 years War action and see the beginning of the Great Northern War that will launch Russia as a majuh playuh. And the Hapsburgs gain influence and power every year.
This campaign would end in with the Treaty of Szatmár (1711) when Hungary is incorporated in with the Austrian Empire. or 1721 when the Great Northern War ends. You all vote on it.
Short Campaign.
Start 1683 just prior to the beginning of the Siege of Vienna and end in 1711 or 1721.
Again, you all vote on it or make modifications or tell me I'm crazy.
Renaissace Europe (especially 30 Years War), though i wonder how they'd call it, protestant invasion or what? :laugh4:
Every expansion up until now was an Invasion, so I'm expecting a Turkish Invasion. In other words:
Great idea. ~:)Quote:
Originally Posted by Dead Knight of the Living