MP Campaign: The Order Of The Eagle (ex Great Alliance)

The Order of the Eagle

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This Thread is for the Order of the Eagle (aka Great Alliance) - A Group of factions joined together for 2 purposes: protecting their homelands and to help all members out

Members:

Carthage
Greek Cities
Egypt

Sub-Alliance: The Republic Of Rome

Members:

The House Of Julii
The House Of Brutii
The House Of Scipii
SPQR

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To join you must prove your worth.

Topic: Who gets what of Roman Territory?

The Alliance's Goals:

1)Take Byzintium
2)Eliminate Macedon,The Seleucid Empire,Numidia
3)Do Not Attack Germans,Britons,Pontus,Parthia

I offer to help but you guys can have my share because the Romans are far away and more trouble than it's worth. How about I give my share to the Greeks for Kydonia and Rhodes.

Hi mate,

I will take as much assistance as possible against Macedon, I will have a very tough time against them early game I fear, so any contributions welcome (remember we're not just talking troops, anything from naval support, to financial contributions if you can spare).

Oh, and welcome to the alliance.

In addition, Carthage/Spain, whats going on? I hear you've withdrawn from the Corduba pact but you're still allied correct? IMO, Carthage, thats cool but you should now try extra hard to give troops and money to Spain as much as possible :)

On behalf of Cartage and Greek Cities, I would like to make a formal offer of alliance to the people of Gaul:

It is well known that the "Germano-British Pact" means to attack and attempt to overwhelm you. If you need more confirmation of this, simply look in the Germano-British Pact thread.

Carthage and Greek Cities would like to offer you support, wether military or monetary, to counter the threat posed by European dominance by the Germano-British Pact. I am sure that you can see the benefit of forming this new alliance. The Germano-British Pact has made it's selfish intentions clear, they must be stopped.

We seem to have a problem... the Germano-Britsh has requested a alliance with the Turko-Persian League...

I respect both of them... but something doesn't seem right.

We must stand fast to survive

I might be forced to use my "secret weapon" on them both if they both become allies

Ha! You say that the nations in your petty alliance are Great, and must prove their worth, but are Spain great? Not in a million years will they have any military success other than the quellings of small brigand uprisings. Why must you fools greet such weak nations with open arms? This can only signify your own weakness, as it means that anyone will be able to join you. Soon, surely, small groups of peasants who declare themselves independant and form tiny states will be allowed into your "alliance". Your pretentiousness and boastings are insulting to the good folks of the Eastern Alliance and the Germano-British (and Macedonian) pact.

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Originally Posted by Silver Rusher

Ha! You say that the nations in your petty alliance are Great, and must prove their worth, but are Spain great? Not in a million years will they have any military success other than the quellings of small brigand uprisings. Why must you fools greet such weak nations with open arms? This can only signify your own weakness, as it means that anyone will be able to join you. Soon, surely, small groups of peasants who declare themselves independant and form tiny states will be allowed into your "alliance". Your pretentiousness and boastings are insulting to the good folks of the Eastern Alliance and the Germano-British (and Macedonian) pact.

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You Want War? You've GOT war!

You really are trying to undermine this great alliance with your petty problems.... oh well.... i can't wait to see what will happen when this alliance makes you and the Germano-British beg for mercy...

I will NOT stand around to be insulted.

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Originally Posted by Silver Rusher

Ha! You say that the nations in your petty alliance are Great, and must prove their worth, but are Spain great? Not in a million years will they have any military success other than the quellings of small brigand uprisings. Why must you fools greet such weak nations with open arms? This can only signify your own weakness, as it means that anyone will be able to join you. Soon, surely, small groups of peasants who declare themselves independant and form tiny states will be allowed into your "alliance". Your pretentiousness and boastings are insulting to the good folks of the Eastern Alliance and the Germano-British (and Macedonian) pact.

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Would you petty successor states please fight amongst yourself in another thread please.

PS. Your alliance seems really pointless as everyone in your area is in it, this is Total War, not Total Peace, my friend. The time will come when rebel towns have been taken and your alliance will fall to infighting ;)

Silver Rusher,
You are walking a fine line.
One mistake and your alliance will crumble into anarchy.
You will have a lot to worry about now that there is corruption in your camp.

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Originally Posted by Monarch

In addition, Carthage/Spain, whats going on? I hear you've withdrawn from the Corduba pact but you're still allied correct? IMO, Carthage, thats cool but you should now try extra hard to give troops and money to Spain as much as possible :)

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I must withdraw from your pitiful alliance now, before you destroy me. You cannot go back on your word like that, and since you did I am afraid I must, as an honest warlord, say that if you do not remove yourself from my Iberian homeland, I will force you off. Other members of the Great Alliance, my conflict is not with you unless you make it such. But a conflict with me is more then just fighting spain, I have allies who may knock on your doors should you act aggresivly against us.

Glaucus I just had to keep Corbuda as it was important to me and would help me in the war in North Africa, not to attack you.

You have pressured me to thinking even more on what to do, strategically.

The Noble House Of Julii have joined us in the Jihad against the Barbarians!
They are worthy of all praise and will be given full support whereever they go!

I have a proposal to make - Would it be in the best intrests of all the members of this great and noble alliance to change the name of the alliance from The Great Alliance to The Kingdom Of Heaven? If this isn't a good name choice why not you suggest one which will sound better?

Ha! It would seem the attitudes of the so-called 'great' alliance have changed slightly. Need I remind you that their original stated intentions were:

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We Are a combination of great factions with two goals in mind: Protection of our homelands and the Removal of the barbarians: The Romans

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Now they welcome their former enemies with open arms. It would appear this alliance is simply a shambolic group of peasants huddling together out of pure fear.

One word of advice for the Romans - Watch your back!

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Originally Posted by Myrddraal

Ha! It would seem the attitudes of the so-called 'great' alliance have changed slightly. Need I remind you that their original stated intentions were:

Now they welcome their former enemies with open arms. It would appear this alliance is simply a shambolic group of peasants huddling together out of pure fear.

One word of advice for the Romans - Watch your back!

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Need i remind you that your original plan was to attack the Germans instantly?
I have talked with the Julii and the rest of the alliance and we both have the same goal in taking over the barbarious people of the north.
Our original plan was to leave the Julii alone and assist them all we could.

We have seen your pitiful attempts to challenge us, and we have decided to HoJ would be a great and noble ally against you.

PS. Not sure about new name...since none of our factions are christian lol. Bur I'd like a name change though.

Edit: How about The Order Of The Eagle? Me and ultrawar came up with it on xfire.

The Order Of The Eagle is a great name to rename the Great Alliance.

There seems to be corruption in the other alliances... this could be a cause of concen and should be looked into.

The Seleucid Empire accused the Spanish by saying: "Ha! You say that the nations in your petty alliance are Great, and must prove their worth, but are Spain great? Not in a million years will they have any military success other than the quellings of small brigand uprisings. Why must you fools greet such weak nations with open arms? This can only signify your own weakness, as it means that anyone will be able to join you. Soon, surely, small groups of peasants who declare themselves independant and form tiny states will be allowed into your "alliance". Your pretentiousness and boastings are insulting to the good folks of the Eastern Alliance and the Germano-British (and Macedonian) pact." That was also directed at us.

The Spanish are asking for an apology from the Empire.

The Spanish have insulted the Macedonians by saying that they will defeat all "civilised" factions, but as the Macedonians are civilised... that could have been a big mistake by the spanish...

Also there is worry within the German camp because of their worries of the British and Macedon backstabbing them... I must order Monarch to look into this.

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I must order Monarch to look into this

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Order, you presume much!

Your continued attempts to divide us are pitiful, and worthy of no further comment.

Ah, we see even MORE allowance as to the membership of the alliance! Even though the Romans were previously declared enemies of this pitiful group, the moment one of their families plods along to ask for membership its a huge reshuffle, and they are made an exception.

Have you people no sense of dignity, of willpower, of firmness?

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Originally Posted by Myrddraal

Order, you presume much!

Your continued attempts to divide us are pitiful, and worthy of no further comment.

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Thats was just for roleplaying purposes, we've discussed it on xfire :P

Silver Rusher, which alliance are you in? Are you in the one which orginally intended to kill each but then changed thier minds, or the one that appear to want to have the whole map allied and play total peace?

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Originally Posted by Monarch

Thats was just for roleplaying purposes, we've discussed it on xfire :P

Silver Rusher, which alliance are you in? Are you in the one which orginally intended to kill each but then changed thier minds, or the one that appear to want to have the whole map allied and play total peace?

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We don't want to have the whole map allied, no! That seemed like the intention of your alliance until the Pan Persian League was formed. And we never said we were going to kill each other, I don't remember anyone saying that anywhere.

I see that the previous intentios of this alliance was to destroy Rome, well now i´m here and i am part of this alliance. I propose that alliances must be keept and that the breakers of an allaince must suffer a penalty, i leave it to you guys to choose that penalty.

Its weird Carthage and Rome to allie, but this is a game, not history remaking and things can be as we want them to be. I apreciate your warnings to watch my back and ill do so.

By alliance with me ,the senate of rome, brutti and scipii are part of it to, any attack on them will be consideraded an act of war.

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Originally Posted by RickFGS

I see that the previous intentios of this alliance was to destroy Rome, well now i´m here and i am part of this alliance. I propose that alliances must be keept and that the breakers of an allaince must suffer a penalty, i leave it to you guys to choose that penalty.

Its weird Carthage and Rome to allie, but this is a game, not history remaking and things can be as we want them to be. I apreciate your warnings to watch my back and ill do so.

By alliance with me ,the senate of rome, brutti and scipii are part of it to, any attack on them will be consideraded an act of war.

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what would happen if the brutii/scipii attack first?

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Originally Posted by RickFGS

I see that the previous intentios of this alliance was to destroy Rome, well now i´m here and i am part of this alliance. I propose that alliances must be keept and that the breakers of an allaince must suffer a penalty, i leave it to you guys to choose that penalty.

Its weird Carthage and Rome to allie, but this is a game, not history remaking and things can be as we want them to be. I apreciate your warnings to watch my back and ill do so.

By alliance with me ,the senate of rome, brutti and scipii are part of it to, any attack on them will be consideraded an act of war.

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I'm Greek Cities, Brutii, played by ai, WILL attack me within the first the few turns. Meanwhile on sicily, scipii will attack Carthage. You see, we have to attack them as they'll attack us.

I always just about to post about that, cant that be changed in the cript, i think it can.

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Originally Posted by RickFGS

I always just about to post about that, cant that be changed in the cript, i think it can.

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We all wish to keep our normal games and not change them for one pbem, thats if it can be done. I'm sorry mate, we'll just have to stick with original plans.

Ok, np, i forgot abouth that issue, very well.

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Originally Posted by RickFGS

I always just about to post about that, cant that be changed in the cript, i think it can.

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I think that destroying SPQR will make things much easier as then you'll have to worry about the Brutii and Scipii... if you want... we could destroy the Brutii and Scipii... leaving SPQR left... meaning that you could easily not worry much.

I will destroy the senate, teh brutii and scipii, your help on killing them is more then welcome, howhever i intend to have all italy under my grip.

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Originally Posted by RickFGS

I will destroy the senate, teh brutii and scipii, your help on killing them is more then welcome, howhever i intend to have all italy under my grip.

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The people of Greece cannot accept this. We entered The Order Of The Eagle on the promise of strong allies and lands formally held by the Brutii (plus the Scipii sicily city).

i think this'll be the best strategy which will benefit everyone:

Greek Cities take Brutii lands
Carthage take Scipii lands
Julii take SPQR and Gallic lands

We cannot accept the presence of greek or other blood on italy mainland, a compromisse must be made, i will give you messana only. Im not flexible on this point, go after macedon, they are hellenic, you can buy them off cheap.

I dislike that treaty ultramar, sipii lands will be julli, italy is not negotiable.

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Originally Posted by RickFGS

We cannot accept the presence of greek or other blood on italy mainland, a compromisse must be made, i will give you messana only. Im not flexible on this point, go after macedon, they are hellenic, you can buy them off cheap.

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No, under the terms of the alliance, Greece is entitled to Croton and Tarentum.

Lol, Italy is not negotiable to the alliance. Why should you get first choice, you are the newest member.

Croton will be Julli, by the time you ll get there you ill move out, or will be forced out, your choice.

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Originally Posted by RickFGS

Croton will be Julli, by the time you ll get there you ill move out, or will be forced out, your choice.

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Ok.

PS, every heard of diplomacy or negotiation? Or compromises?

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Originally Posted by RickFGS

We cannot accept the presence of greek or other blood on italy mainland, a compromisse must be made, i will give you messana only. Im not flexible on this point, go after macedon, they are hellenic, you can buy them off cheap.

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that is good strategic planning... i would agree that it would be in the best intrests of my nation in particular... i will attack Rome and then when i take it, i will give it to you as a gift.... i will then leave Rome... would the establisment of a Greek Colony in Tarentum and Croton work so then you can keep the rest of the Italian mainland and concentrate eleswere while I will take over Messana...

Greek Cities are unsure but would like a bit of land on mainland italy just so that it can trade.

Trade can be done by ports, neither carthage or greek presense in italy mainland ill be considered a good gesture, greece should concentrate on macedon, why bother with the scipii on italy, as for carthage, you already have africa, ive played this many times with carth you can growth enoguh power on africa, italy is mine, africa is yours, same for greece...no foreign presence, else im gonna start demanding athens, snice its revel, and mauretania and numidias land, since its from another faction...

ok... i have had a talk with the other members of this order and have decided... to continue with the original demands....

I will take Messana,Capua and Rome
Greek Cities will take Brutii lands
You can take over North Italy Lands

You will have to accept because if you don't... you'll be running the risk of being annilated by a force worse than death...

trade is done by diplos, one meet an puff trade rights sucred, no need for greek or carthage presence on mainland...Im not flexible on this..ITALY IS MINE. Besides your strategies seem to be a bit agressive towords me, Rome is not the AI anymore, so i suggest you adjust to the new reality....

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Originally Posted by RickFGS

Trade can be done by ports, neither carthage or greek presense in italy mainland ill be considered a good gesture, greece should concentrate on macedon, why bother with the scipii on italy, as for carthage, you already have africa, ive played this many times with carth you can growth enoguh power on africa, italy is mine, africa is yours, same for greece...no foreign presence, else im gonna start demanding athens, snice its revel, and mauretania and numidias land, since its from another faction...

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Hmm, you've played this many times before? Them you'll know you can build a Julii empire in central Europe, you never will hold the italian peninsula for years, so why do you need it?
Please, mate, reconsider.

The force of death does not frighten me, neither your threaths, maybe i should join another allaince...

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Originally Posted by RickFGS

trade is done by diplos, one meet an puff trade rights sucred, no need for greek or carthage presence on mainland...Im not flexible on this..ITALY IS MINE. Besides your strategies seem to be a bit agressive towords me, Rome is not the AI anymore, so i suggest you adjust to the new reality....

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I also hope you notice that the Barbarians are not the AI anymore either... they are after your blood... i am sorry to tell you this but... they will be willing to annilate you if they were given half the chance.

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Originally Posted by RickFGS

The force of death does not frighten me, neither your threaths, maybe i should join another allaince...

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also... who would have you in their alliance?

Not the North... that's for sure!

Why would the east need you? They HATE you...

We are the only ones who actually feel sorry for you.

It seems that way yes, but you are very sure about yourself....your demands are unnceptable so are Greece, if i must fight then fight we will, you can have Messana, this is my compromisse, acept it or not, i dont care.

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Originally Posted by UltraWar

also... who would have you in their alliance?

Not the North... that's for sure!

Why would the east need you? They HATE you...

We are the only ones who actually feel sorry for you.

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HA! This makes me laugh out loud. The Great Alliance was FOUNDED on hatred of romans - in fact, the simple formation of a group of nations with the simple goal of destroying an innocent civilisation was one of the reasons why the Compact and League joined together with the hope of annhilating you.

Romans, you need not worry about these treacherous, backstabbing fools who simply wish to destroy you like they always have done. Join the Compact, and be true to your Roman blood!

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Originally Posted by RickFGS

The force of death does not frighten me, neither your threaths, maybe i should join another allaince...

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I don't see you in Pan Persia, so obviously you can't join them.

Compact Eurpopa, they plan for Macedon to take the Balkans, so you can't go there. Neither can you expand north as that would taking on you would-be allies, Gaul. You could go south (africa) but you would have no alliance support there, and you you would have issues transporting troops without Carthage sinking them.

North is your only option :) And we are the only alliance that can help you achieve this goal.

I could go Greece, take Athens, after that i cut off your north, then take Sparta by siege, syracuse i blokade the pass with navy? Macedon will eat you up if i strike you on the back...how about that for starts? I sugest you guys start losing some arrogance and start compromising. Your plans are simple, you are both allied and plane to take me over from the beginning, we all now croton, tarentum are developed cities, your empire will be much better then my supossed north cities, and also you ll be on my back while my armie would be on south.

Ultrawar is a carthage addict and a carthage addict always attacks rome, your plan is not fair, and so i must be inflexible.

Correction - "while my armie would be on north"

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Originally Posted by RickFGS

I could go Greece, take Athens, after that i cut off your north, then take Sparta by siege, syracuse i blokade the pass with navy? Macedon will eat you up if i strike you on the back...how about that for starts? I sugest you guys start losing some arrogance and start compromising. Your plans are simple, you are both allied and plane to take me over from the beginning, we all now croton, tarentum are developed cities, your empire will be much better then my supossed north cities, and also you ll be on my back while my armie would be on south.

Ultrawar is a carthage addict and a carthage addict always attacks rome, your plan is not fair, and so i must be inflexible.

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i am not a carthage addict but there was a agreement on territory... rome always attack carthage...

the plan was to support you from any problem from the other romans

Im tired of this, can another player join this game? i have a friend who will be taking the brutii.

His nick his: Luigiman
mail: luissilva1982@sapo.pt

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Originally Posted by RickFGS

Im tired of this, can another player join this game? i have a friend who will be taking the brutii.

His nick his: Luigiman
mail: luissilva1982@sapo.pt

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he can join the game if he wants

Lol, I thought we wern;t having any romans and now we have two?

Very well, he wants, thks for that. Will there be peace between greece and brutti now? Thus this suit you best?

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Originally Posted by RickFGS

Very well, he wants, thks for that. Will there be peace between greece and brutti now? Thus this suit you best?

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Well obviously I couldn't do anything until a war with Macedon had finished anyway. I do not believe i'll be able to take down brutti, I'd much rather ally, plus I won't get invaded like if it was AI playing. I'd like peace, i'll settle for the Scipii land on Sicily, if you agree?

Very well, i agree, Luigiman agrees also. We will be going for north then.

does this Luigiman have a account on the .org?
if he doesn't.... can he register one as it'd make things much easier via diplomatics

In addition to non agression, Brutii be entering the Order?

If so, I would like to request some assistance in the war vs Macedon. Brutii can easily transport troops to aid me in the war, I cannot allow him any provinces. However, once we win that war, I will divert my attention to the north, I will not take any cities just troops to swell your ranks. In addition, I will grant Brutii 2000 denarri to help me against Macedon. 500 denarri after the he sends some troops and firstly engages Macedon, and then at the end of the war when his and my own troops have conquered Macedon I will give him 1500 denarri.

So yeah, I'll pay him, and I'll support your advances against Gaul, Germania and Britannia.

North is where you will meet your grave.

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Originally Posted by kburkert

North is where you will meet your grave.

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Yup, watch out the might of rome, the mudhut men are gunna throw sticks at you!

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Originally Posted by kburkert

North is where you will meet your grave.

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South is where you will meet your grave

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Originally Posted by kburkert

North is where you will meet your grave.

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North is cheese and we romans love cheese, Luigiman will be registering later and replying here in the forum. Not here right now.

You stand with them yet their original attention was to destroy the romans, why would you aid them when they are gonna stab you in the back.

Well I must say, Roman, you have been very aggressive towards the Compact, despite the fact that your own alliance have made their own aggressive intentions known. They have checked for now, knowing that two well led Roman factions are dangerous to cowards, but they will turn their attentions to you when you are weak.

We offered you rights of trade, and you spat at our feet. We should have known not to expect better from a Roman!

So be it! You are in a vulnerable position, and throwing insults at those who declared themselves neutral to you is foolish in the extreme.

I have one last word for you - you would better off standing alone as a separate alliance of Romans than with traitors at your back. I ask you to look into the treatment of the Iberians by the members of the alliance you are proposing to join, and reconsider your position. We may yet be merciful.

We romans spit on your treaties and your barbarian words, we have been talking with Legio I centurians and they have transmitted to me their questions regarding your weak factions "Are we there yet?"

Edited by Myrddraal - even though this is in character, please keep the language civilised, also corrected some typos :smile:

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Originally Posted by kburkert

You stand with them yet their original attention was to destroy the romans, why would you aid them when they are gonna stab you in the back.

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Your original intention was to destroy brittainia, are you intending to stab the Britons in the back then?

The Romans can help me in Macedon and I can help them in central europe. We both can help each other, it would not be in our interests to backstab.

"People should know when they are conquered" so Luigi tell me on the phone, (Laughing out loud)

We have said all we have to say - your aggressive behavior and angry outbursts mearly display your lack of character. Our dealings with you are over, consider all that I have said an think of your future.

Yes that was my plan, but that was before we made the alliance.

Your actions took us out of peace and put us into war, your words of arrogance dictacte my answers, better to have an known enemy then to be given money to someone whose sole plans are to destroy us. All your false staments shall have the same fate as your * faction.

Edit by Myrddraal - I've already had to edit one of your posts Rick, please don't make me warn you. Swearing is not allowed at the .org

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Originally Posted by kburkert

You stand with them yet their original attention was to destroy the romans, why would you aid them when they are gonna stab you in the back.

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Your intentions are different? i dont believe it. We ar efar away from you, worrie about others.

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Originally Posted by kburkert

Yes that was my plan, but that was before we made the alliance.

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So you'll understand then that we planned to take out the Romans, before we made the alliance and before they where human controlled.

Rick control your language, this is only roleplay.

Language, what did i said? Many sorries if i seemed offensive, im being sportive about all this, i like this cat and mousse talk ;) I trust you are all good players and im excited to see what i can learn.

just try not to use words like *. Your faction will fall under the power of the barbs.

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Originally Posted by kburkert

just try not to use words like *. Your faction will fall under the power of the barbs.

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i have to agree with kburkert here... RickFGS, Overconfidence killed the Roman

ups, i agree with that i seemed to have gone over the top there, was all on sportive spirit i assure. Im not english speaking person so what i say may be missinterpreted. My apologies

As for the barbs, Rome does need a few heads on a pikes to lighten up Via Apia, will try to satisfy the citizens wishes asap.

Noble Romans, all I have to say is this, and it is bona fide from the bottom of my heart: Carthage made an agreement with me, then when we spanish had committed ourselves with them they turned on Iberia and edited the treaty to suit them. Watch your back, they won't want you to grow too powerful, and it wouldn't suprise me if they attacked with 10 years of the start.