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Doc Bean said:so i started this topic, Star Wars vs. Star Trek!Quote:
Originally Posted by doc_bean
anyway i pick Star Wars i like Jedi and i dont even watch Star Trek.
while that Gah option is there can you people tell me what that means? i use it for sentences like: Gah! You disgust me. but i seen people use it for different things. what does it mean?
Star Wars is better than Star Trek
I second that.
Space 1999 pwns all. And Hyperdrive pwns a little.
yes, yes, very good but please answer my quetion too.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Spartan
Gah! is the Org-standard last option of a poll. As in, "Gah! None of these poll options accurately reflect my opinion!"
yep, got to go with star wars. You cant beat light sabers.
::awaits Trekkies::
very good definition Lemur! it should be in the Org dictionary! (not being sarcastic)Quote:
Originally Posted by Lemur
We have a dictionary ? :dizzy2:
Uh, Star wars, yes...
Star Trek had a worryingly large effect on real life, but besides the first series is mostly rubbish.
Some of the worst acting I've ever seen has been in Star Trek.
Star Wars acting was wooden too, but at least it had lightsabres and coolness.
no that part i made up..Quote:
Originally Posted by doc_bean
Star Wars.
Lightsabers are the best thing since sliced bread, so obviously star wars therefore wins.
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Must be Star Trek. (Must admit didnt like the last two series)
TOS
NG
DS9
What could be better. Touches on all aspects of life.
Star Wars!We need a Darth Vader smiley around here.:book:
Gah!
Star Trek, of course.
Star Trek
i think Dumbledore vs. Gandalf is more geeky.Quote:
Originally Posted by Conqueror
Star trek, I disliked the original series (and the first bits of DS9 but things picked up when the Dominion came along) but loved the rest.
On another note I am also keen on Star Wars but I just preferred Star trek.
Star Trek, without doubt. It actually has storylines and characterisation.
I think Harrison Ford said it all:
"You can write this **** George, but you sure as hell can't say it."
:2thumbsup:
Star Wars is for nerds....and for people who can appreciate special effects in a movie.
Star trek is for nerds....period.
Star Trek! Star Trek started it all when it comes to sci-fi - The transporter, phaser weapon, warp speed. Gene Roddenberry broke every mold - Women Officers (during the civil rights movement), a Russian Navigator (during the cold war), the coolest emotionless alian of all time (Spock).
But I do have to admit, light sabers are cool.
You stating that does not set a high standard for lightsabers to beat..Quote:
Originally Posted by Dutch_guy
Wrong... the origional Star Trek is for stoners. The rest, yeah- the other series are the dumbest thing I could ever come up with. Kinda like "Time Tunnel: the next Generation." But the first one is hilarious whilst baked.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mithrandir
But they both lose out to "Space: Above and Beyond", one of the toughest grittiest series ever shown on Cable television. It was really, good, too; yet it only lasted one season. Really a terrible waste of a very good series. Apparently, the lack of stupid, nerdy aliens and even worse, nerdier storylines (*cough* Babylon 5 *cough*) led to its downfall.
Star Wars - no questions.
Star Trek's about a bunch of hippies. "Oh, let's go around not shooting stuff, or something. Anyway, our weapons suck."
I am a big fan of both but I choose Star Wars because it includes tech and fantasy.
A cross over would be sweet!
Star Wars is RTW to Star Trek's MTW.
Stars Wars has great looks and special effects, but is a little light and ultimately unsatisfying. Only the Empire Strikes Back and the last one have any real gravitas and drama, IMO. The rest is just ultimately trite Flash Gordon, Saturday matinee stuff.
Star Trek is a bit clunky and uncool, but has a lot of hidden depth, excellent characters and solid plots. There have been some amazing one-off episodes - City on the Edge of Forever (ToS) and An Inner Light (TNG) come to mind. Plus DS9 had a very impressive central story arc in the last few series.
But ultimately both lose out to Babylon 5 whose 5 year story arc was about the most satisfying thing I've watched on TV.
And the new Battlestar Galactica is shaping up to rival all of them for atmosphere and adult drama.
Gah! :gah:
:smart:
Star Wars is cowboys and injuns in space, pure opera. Star Trek at least makes a stab at possible future technology. Remember the plasma flat tellys that Kirk had? Now they are everywhere. Also the 'communicators', now flip top mobiles, just not held up to the ear. Also the 'impulse' drive is based on the Ion drive.
Anyway Star Trek has better babes :2thumbsup: and Spock. Who can compete with Spock? Even when some alien pinched his brain! :sweatdrop:
meh ion drives are just an extension of current technology, now warp drives, they're something spectacular.
Also, I suspect the reason we're seeing so much star trek technology in real life is that a lot of trekkies got into product development / engineering. Life imitating 'art'.
Still, I want a damn lightsaber !
Star Wars ... it is more fantasy than science fiction. Plus, it has lightsabers.
Star Trek I can watch, but I only liked DS9, and I prefer my Original Trilogy SW anyway.
Never watched Star Trek, never planned to.
I just watch Star Wars for the sabre fights :tongue:
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me too. wah.. never seen that smilie before.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tiberius
Please add this smiley to the .org database: https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v...rio/fight2.gif
yea and call it swduel.Quote:
Originally Posted by UltraWar
wait how did you get that!?Quote:
Originally Posted by UltraWar
DS9 is my favourite series. The other series seemed to focus to much on the old theme discover alien entity/new race, get into trouble, get saved at the very last moment and learn an important lesson. Aside from that it got boring, it was also conceptually flawed- if ships ran into such misadventures that often, shouldn't Starfleet have a loss rate of over 80% per year?Quote:
Originally Posted by The_Emperor
The political intrigues of Cardassia and the Dominion war kept DS9 interesting. Cardassians are my favourite fictional race in any series I've seen, wich isn't many though.
Meh. Star Wars is ok, well excluding the first trilogy. Star Trek I don't watch, BUT I HATE TREKKIES!
Psst just use speakerphone if you don't want to hold it to your ear...Quote:
Originally Posted by InsaneApache
Just a bit of science fiction reading, say Asimov and Heinlein and you will see that a lot of these ideas have been around for a longtime.Quote:
Originally Posted by crossroad
Movies there is plenty that predate Star Trek, Flash Gordon has already been mentioned.
TV... well even Doctor Who predates Star Trek.
as for me...
gah
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Originally Posted by Drisos
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
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:laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4: oh crap my chest hurts from laughing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Drisos
Anyway Star Wars for me.
I voted Gah because I loved Space Precinct, a show that had about one series and then disappeared from the world... I still have all the toys in their original wrappings...(ebay in 50 years maybe?)
I refuse to read that. Frankly, I can't believe someone took the time to do anything like that. That is so sad I actually want to cry.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alexander the Pretty Good
Or is that an urge to laugh? :thinking:
Anyway, that man will definitely die alone.
Star Wars off course. But only the old epizodes, not new (especially Epizode I which is terrible).
Com on, they were great, as long as you ignore the bad acting, stupid characters and poor story. :wink:Quote:
Originally Posted by DukeofSerbia
...and bad CGI effects !Quote:
Originally Posted by yesdachi
i liked #3 but the story was a bit boring.Quote:
Originally Posted by DukeofSerbia
Only story how Republic transformed into Empire is good in the new epizodes. Everything else sucks!Quote:
Originally Posted by yesdachi
Spectacular effects can't supersede bad acting and boring story.
From moi :happy:Quote:
Originally Posted by The Spartan
Gah- I have heard of Star Wars. I have never seen either. They sound sci-fi which is not my favorite genre.
Shouldn’t knock it until you try it. I don’t know anyone that did not enjoy the first one (a new hope) after watching it. even if it wasn’t their cup o tea.Quote:
Originally Posted by IrishArmenian
It was truely a tragically missed moment.Quote:
Originally Posted by DukeofSerbia
For now I think I'll stick to Firefly for my space fix.
Tragically short-lived, but otherwise fantastic.
Ajax
Whoa, man... we have the same avatar... creepy.Quote:
Originally Posted by DukeofSerbia
Yes, I thought Palpatine was the most interesting character in the new episodes - especially, the first two when he was rather understated. They did rather ham him up with special effects in the last one. But even so the way he played Anakin for a fool was impressively evil (playing on his fears; suggesting a cure for mortality but never actually lying about it; alternately appealing to Anakin's ambition, pique, love, rage, pity etc; and then at the end delighting in the irony of Anakin bringing about the one thing he had feared all along) .Quote:
Originally Posted by DukeofSerbia
Actually, I liked pretty much the whole of the last episode - Anakin and Amidala were mind-numbingly inane, but that aside the dark mood of the fall of the Republic was well done and in some way vindicated the upbeat tone of most of the original three movies.
Talking about Gah! makes me long for those days when Krust is around....:wall:Quote:
Originally Posted by Lemur
Tootee have you changed your name?
The best part of the new ones is probably Ewan McGregor's acting - some of the most consistantly solid performances of the whole bunch, in my opinion, and worthy of Sir Alec Guinness.
Ep II was the lowpoint of the new ones, and while III wasn't bad, it is fairly open to criticism (the best being from Maddox on thebestpageintheuniverse.com). Ep I wasn't as bad as is made out to be despite Jar Jar - the Queen didn't get too much screen time and it wasn't like the annoying stuff in II & III. Plus Anankin is just a little kid and not the idiot from II & III.
Fun series, wish they would bring it back. Did you catch the movie? i liked it, it wasent the best, but i liked it.:2thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by ajaxfetish
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Originally Posted by econ21
In Epizode III for me greatest disappointing ting is Lord Grivius. He should be the main negative character but he is the most funniest. In cinema kids coudn't stop from laughing when he was in scene. Thanks God, Jar Jar Binx hadn't any role.
Transformation from Republic into Empire seems to be borrowed from Roman history.
I did not give Grievious much thought. I think Lucas tends to put in some characters for the kids. Some of these work even for adults (Yoda), others don't (Jar-Jar, Ewoks, etc). It's like taking your kid to a Disney or Pixar movie - some of it is not for you. Maybe Grievious did not sell well with the kids in your cinema but my son thought he was the most interesting character. I doubt kids could root for the other "baddies" in III - a sulky child killer and an ugly-wuggly arch manipulator.Quote:
Originally Posted by DukeofSerbia
Inspired by the myth, I guess, but maybe that's why it worked, for me at least. There's a "garden of Eden" type quality about a republic (democracy) falling into tyranny that gives it a certain poignancy. It's more interesting to me than the "freedom fighters" win kind of story of IV and VI.Quote:
Transformation from Republic into Empire seems to be borrowed from Roman history.
~:joker: :hippie:Quote:
Originally Posted by Alexander the Pretty Good
true
very true
i vote TREK
B.
Okay, I'm REALLY going to settle this once and for all:
KHAAAAAAAAAN!!!
The single greatest, most side-splittingly hilarious case of overacting in acting history. Throw it into any serious moment and people will piss themselves laughing. Particularly when they are baked, but that goes without saying withStonedStar Trek.
Trek.
I'm no trekkie, but Lucas shot himself in the foot with the last 3 movies. Several times.
Crazed Rabbit
Hmm... I have 2 versions of Star Wars: Episode 1 Racer...Quote:
Originally Posted by Alexander the Pretty Good
It's a great game really... only problem is you can't destroy the other racers....
Grievious is total mismatch. Like Jar-Jar, Ewoks and similar "kidy" characters. Even Epizode VI showed small degradation, but it was suppotably. Much of my friends are core SW fans and they are disappointed with Lord Grievious and EIII. I only watch the old ones.Quote:
Originally Posted by econ21
I agree. Transformation from republic into empire (like Roman dominate - maybe I wrong spelled) is well done.Quote:
Originally Posted by econ21
Star Trek II was good but overrated IMO. The best Star Trek movie of all times is VI: The Undiscovered Country :yes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Zorba
Actually, it'sQuote:
Originally Posted by Lemur
GAH! CUT OFF HEADS! MAKE HEAD SOUP! GAH!
Vanya tradition.
Anyway, SW > ST.
This is at least the third thread of this exact topic in the Frontroom in my own recent memory (ie: less than a year).
Not that it's a bad topic, but just I hate how I make huge long posts in the other thread and then they are not there in the new threads about the same thing that spring up. Perhaps the mods should sticky this thread in the Frontroom since it's a recurring topic.
In short, Star Trek is better if you want meat & potatoes; real substance to make you think. Star Wars is better if you want some TV dinners and exciting action (hand to hand fighting action is something that Trek never did well).
Overall, I strongly prefer Star Trek because of it's deeper issues that make you think.
"I'm a leaf on the wind; watch how I soar."Quote:
Originally Posted by yesdachi
Ajax
Actually, I hate all of the movies. But that one line is hilarious.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kralizec
Wait- that was from number two?
...Oh, yeah- it's called the Wrath of Khan! Forgot about that. All I remembered was T. J. Hooker finally flipping his lid and hitting the outer limits of bad acting.