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leaders/heirs/heroes/generals
over the next week or so i will be posting lists in here of the members of clans,
sources for these lists include battle reports, geaneaologies, wikipedia, samurai archives and patrons contributions.
(a few are mythological - but only a few)
for the moment i am not listing patron hereos, they will be the last addition.
i have lists of from 60 to 150 names for each clan,
when a list gets too long i will be cropping it to exclude Alternate (alt) names,
if it is still too long then i will crop people i have minimal informaton about,
(if i have no date of birth for example AND no relations in the list)
i have a couple of lists of non-affiliated samurai that i will use to fill out clans who dont have enough members
The goal is 30 to 40 leaders and 80 to 100 generals - heroes are extra's and dont count towards the total
any samurai who has something like "very brave" beside their name will be a Hero in the final list.
(some heroes were identified and listed as such during early testing, others i have added details to as i found them,
but not yet moved them into the "hero" section of the list)
What i am inviting you to do is check the lists and see if i missed anyone, or if you think someone should be a hero (or villian)
The basic qualification for inclusion in these lists is the member's first recorded clan affiliation,
(OR the clan their father was affiliated with)
some are placed from out of their timeline to flesh out lists and can be regarded as representing children who died in infancy,
if during the game the player want to have historically accurate general lists they will have to find the general and bribe him
(Tekeda's 24 generals for example dont all start with Takeda - in real life Takeda convinced several to change allegiance)
please note we are limited to 29 clans in one campaign,
but we have over 33 and could have added a lot more,
some will be "imported" into existing medieval slots for early era campaigns,
as for the rest we tried to add as many as possible as retainers of other clans which we considered more important
and so it begins...
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Amako Clan
also known as Amago clan, will be Amako in Samurai,
Amago version of names are included as retainers
Amako clan are about 20 retainers short - will add some unaffiliated samurai later
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Asai / Asakura
could have gone either way with these
thay shared a lot of retainers who changed sides
we went with Asai in Samurai mod
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Chosokabe
about 20 retainers short, i will add some unaffiliated samurai later
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Fujiwara
there are a few deliberately missing, (they have gone to other clans)
the vast majority of "other" kings will become generals
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Hatakeyama
(40 retainers short)
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Hoganji
PLACEHOLDER
these guys have a multitude of "leader" names,
so i will sort them out absolute last
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Honda
drastically short of retainers
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Maeda
needs many more retainers - will import from either unaffiliated or excess Tokugawa
- i have pages of tokugawa and toytomi retainers/allies
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Minamoto
there are hundreds of minamoto,
this list is simply the first 80 i found
with the excess leaders there are 80 retainers - can add more if needed
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Mogami
drastically short of retainers and heroes
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Mori
this one was heavily cross-linked with toyotomi and a group on mori in the unaffiliated group
i have done Toyotomi, but they wont get posted just yet (a couple between here and there to be done first)
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Just a quick explanation while i pause for sleep and work
i believe i will have enough unaffiliated and "excess" samurai left over to go back through ALL the lists and remove all (alt) names,
some well know characters who have multiple V&V's that i think are important will stay on,
(each character can have only one starting V&V + a undetermined number of random V&V's are assigned when that character comes into play)
thus it is my hope that almost every character in the mod will be a unique person from the history of Japan (even if they are way out of their timeline)
(except the rebel's - they will still have random generated names)
(BUT they CAN have their own Heroes!)
Cheers,
B.
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Otomo
i have had to be a little liberal with Otomo,
their list includes cousins and other relatives who would have been very long
shots to become clan leader, clan leaders will be using their alt names as
well.
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Sanada
/// THIS clan seem especially fond of using the same name for people alive at the same time!!! ///
they are also short of retainers, i'll flesh out their retainer list with excess samurai later,
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Satomi
I had to draft 17 distant cousins into their leader list,
and their retainer list was a little small too,
i'll add more retainers later
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Taira
needs maybe 20 more retainers, they have 60 or so already
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Takeda
hoping i got everyone....
As some of takeda's 24 generals start with their original clans (ie the Sanada's) i am going to allow the alternate names for several of the remaining generals.
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Tokugawa
Tokugawa have way too many characters,
I have tried to identify the most important,
(the excess will wind up divvied up amongst clans that are very short)
SO - if you think someone is missing from the list send me a PM asap.
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Toyotomi
this was a difficult one,
i used all Toyotomi relations AS Toyotmi
i also declined to use alt names Except Toyotomi alt's
i have included TWO lists of retainers,
the first list is from documents and books on hand,
the second list is from a couple of battle maps i have for Osaka summer and winter campaigns,
those are not exhaustive, leaders of units in the citadel are not named
Some of those names will not be familiar,
they made their grand entrance on the Sengoku Era stage at Osaka,
and exited, stage right, dead.
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Ukita
an unusual clan, many family names for retainers are not found anywhere else,
(makes me wonder if these are minor clans trying to ride Ukita's star...)
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okelly dokelly
working my way through these,
so far i have 31 clans with 140 unique members per clan
giving 4340 Samurai
(no more than 50 people in the whole game get to use an alternate name, and thus have 2 shots at history, and most of those are heroes - and not counted in the above total - heroes are extras!!)
(and i have probalby about 50 characters from literature, games and other public media - and again they are heroes, so they're extras)
i am planning on between 15 and 25 heroes per clan,
so all up with the three clans that are using names lists that is an 500to800 extra samurai
basically, when we're done, we'll have 5000 samurai characters (mostly from history) in the game...
i only hope the database can hold that many....
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oh yeah,
i'm working through the patron hero submissions too,
so Captain Fishpants (who has had his character in the game since beta-6)
is about to get a whole lot of friends...
look for a hero with the vice of bookworm
