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Bioshock non-gameplay discussion
I'll put one behind a spoiler tag because it's quite graphic, sickening in fact. I like.
BIG FAT PG WARNING
http://i.i.com.com/cnet.g2/images/20..._screen001.jpg
That is the most horrific blood I have ever seen, and these enemies are just wrong, yuk disgusting. I am so hyped up about this game that if someone gave me a job as cortex reaver I wouldn't hesitate to take it.
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It looks like great fun! When is it released?
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It looks like great fun! When is it released?
Hold it soldier, this is the spiritual successor of what many consider the greatest gameseries ever made, the System Shock series, work on your hyperbole. If you have no idea what I am talking about you are one of the lucky few who have not played the miracle that is System Shock 2 and thus can still do so.
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Nope, I have never played it and never even heard of it, nor seen it in any stores. Maybe it hasn't come out this way, or the local games stores are just useless and have hardly any games (which is the more likely one)
It sort of looks like FEAR to me.
I think I will start looking around though. :2thumbsup:
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... how can anyone not of heard of System shock 2 and Shodan - i was unfortunate to miss the first but number 2 was (and still is) one of the best horror shooters around - Shodan was just the most evil and yet plausable villian
i have high hopes for bioshock they seem to have all the right ingrediants - Freaky enemies, a devestated enviroment and a strongly evil Badguy.
they even have the story right :laugh4: System shock was how our technology could be turned against Humanity (well that was the story behind shodan anyway) Bioshock seems to focus around how Biology could be turned around to be used against humantity
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Yummy pics! Can't wait for this one. :2thumbsup: Got sooooo many good games coming out soon, I need to get cracking on building a new machine.
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The blood on the second screenshot looks like plastic.:inquisitive:
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Those graphics looks awesome. Zombie blasting never looked so good! :laugh4:
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Oh yuck that screenshot is disgusting!
A little blood can enhance the game experience but that is total overkill!
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There is no way my laptop can run it ~:mecry:
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they even have the story right :laugh4: System shock was how our technology could be turned against Humanity (well that was the story behind shodan anyway) Bioshock seems to focus around how Biology could be turned around to be used against humantity
I'm wondering why they keep pushing for that "totally free capitalism can turn against you" theme in the inteviews. Feels somewhat wrong considering what you know this far, but it might be better explained in the game.
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Those graphics looks awesome. Zombie blasting never looked so good! :laugh4:
This ain't no zombie blasting mia muca, this is going to be an adventure game with rpg elements and a lot of sneaking, unless you like to blast mutants of course.
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Hmm, testing moral boundries (shooting of small children)? Check. Awesome graphics? Check. Original setting? Check. Made by the good chaps behind System Shock 2? Check.
I want now!
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That's the best blood graphic I've seen...too bad my computer will never be able to run this game.
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I shall purchase a new computer for this game !
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Thing is, fancy graphics are nice and all, but it wasn't the graphics that scared you senseless in SS2, it was the sound & atmosphere. Scared me so much I couldn't even finish the demo.
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Looks like Doom 3. :annoyedg: Sorry, I'll stick with System Shock 2.
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Well, the two screenshots here are perhaps the most visceral, shocking ones. But there are other, slightly older ones of the little sisters etc that are very intriguing:
http://uk.gamespot.com/pc/action/bio...475&q=Bioshock
Coupled with what the developers have said about the game, it does look very promising.
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I'm sorry, but the blood effects squirting out of that guy are just fugly, and the blood on the wall behind him looks horribly fake.
Apart from that, looks absolutely brilliant!
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Looks like Doom 3. :annoyedg: Sorry, I'll stick with System Shock 2.
Well, Doom 3 had been more scary if they were less predictable, better darkness (too much of it, ability of gun + flashlight at the same time is better then to switch, I used the muzzle flash to see), and the hunted feeling.
Besides, SS2 was scary because of the sounds, lack of "gun safety feeling" (gives the feeling of being hunted and/or very fragile), the logs (Doom's were hard to hear and only the audio-logs were freaky and only few of them), the gosts, the story, etc (didn't find SHODAN that scary, but she's a very cool character and certainly discomforting).
It's hard to get that through screens.
Image SS2 with Doom 3 graphics anyway :hide: :eeeek:
"Kill me!!"
Monkey chatter...
The blood on the wall looks like paint, but I'm note sure how a thick dried layer of blood looks like.
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that blood looks funny.
im sure people have seen blood before. why dont they just make blood look like that?!
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Nice screenshots although the blood looks like claymation. They should 86 the claymation-esque blood and make it look real.
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I wouldnt make too many judgements about how the blood looks based one a single screen shot. Until you see it in motion, it's going to be tough to say how it really looks.
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Looks like Doom 3. :annoyedg: Sorry, I'll stick with System Shock 2.
That is one way to do the graphics don't matter thing. System shock 2 was brilliant despite a dated engine, no way good graphics could have hurt it.
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Well, the two screenshots here are perhaps the most visceral, shocking ones. But there are other, slightly older ones of the little sisters etc that are very intriguing:
http://uk.gamespot.com/pc/action/bio...475&q=Bioshock
Coupled with what the developers have said about the game, it does look very promising.
Yes, apart from that one disgusting screenshot, the rest look pretty interesting and I must say I like the original storyline - you could probably do an SF book with a theme like that.
But a shooter - I don't care how good the graphics are, I just don't think I could face another one...
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But a shooter - I don't care how good the graphics are, I just don't think I could face another one...
I don't really play shooters. I recently tried Call of Duty and while it is well done, I just can't get past the first few levels - the shooting is too frenetic, intense and repetitive, it does not appeal. But I never thought System Shock 2 was a "shooter" - I guess because I never shot anything until towards the end. I spent most of the time hiding behind round corners with a wrench, to hoard ammo.
I think of SS2 more as an "experience". It was the sounds of the enemies roaming around and the logs telling the backstory that stood out. If Bioshock is like that, as I expect, I'll be delighted. I was very pleased, for example, to learn that the intimidating looking "big daddies" and the little sisters are not hostile to the player by default - you have to provoke them before they attack.
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I think of SS2 more as an "experience". It was the sounds of the enemies roaming around and the logs telling the backstory that stood out. If Bioshock is like that, as I expect, I'll be delighted. I was very pleased, for example, to learn that the intimidating looking "big daddies" and the little sisters are not hostile to the player by default - you have to provoke them before they attack.
Yes, I've gathered that from what people have previously said about the game. But my reading of the interview with Irrational is that Bioshock will be more of a traditional shooter than the previous games. On the other hand, he did say there will be alternative strategies, so I guess we'll just have to wait and see what they come up with.
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I just saw a completely new Bioshock video where a developer plays the game and comments on many things. It was a pretty interesting video which can be downloaded here.
I have to say the video was pretty interesting, the guy shows how one can interact with the world, some locations and the use of different ammunition types and genetic material.:2thumbsup:
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good find! So much awesome, this is going to be so scary!
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Excellent video! I especially love how all the creatures in the game world operate according to dynamic AI and do not rely on scripting! Looks positively gorgeous in action too, I shudder to think what the system requirements will be. :uneasy:
I wouldn't worry too much about the developer's emphasis on the word 'fps' or 'shooter', I think they're simply trying very hard not to alienate the fps crowd by presenting Bioshock as being purely a sci-fi crpg game. Given Irrational's track record I seriously doubt Bioshock is going to be lacking in the depth department.
Speaking of System Shock, apparently there is some really bad blood between Irrational and EA over the fate of that series...
http://digitalbattle.com/2006/08/01/...-pissed-at-ea/
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BioShock Dev Pissed At EA
August 1st, 2006 by Armin Siljkovic in Action, Adventure, Xbox360, PC, Rumor, Multiplayer
Irrational Games, developer of BioShock had a few things going on with EA in the past. Company boss Ken Levine says the reason there were no plans for System Shock 3 was because, as he puts it, “EA just didn’t give a **** about that game”.
Apparently Levine had it all worked out for System Shock 3, a story design, concept etc. He says:
“I think if EA were to do it, it would’ve been just a regular first-person shooter with a boss monster at the end.”
According to Levine, EA didn’t see System Shock as a big brand, and didn’t give it much attention. Their new publisher, 2K Games did see the potential in the series,
“We have a publisher who cares about this game, and they believe in this kind of game. 2K Games is the company that helped reinvigorate Elder Scrolls and Civilization. They believe in core games.”
Wow, EA letting a stellar property rot on the vine? What a shock! :wall:
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Well maybe it's all for the best then that there is no System Shock 3. But I thought nobody owned the rights to System Shock 2 and it was legal to download? God why out of all companies EA, should have dealt with Ubisoft or other much more sympathatic publishers.
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That video is really starting to get my hopes up.
Creepy environment? Check
Disturbing environment? Check
Creepy sounds? Check (sadly he did ramble a bit too much to hear what that splicer was mumbling about in the last scene).
Ammo being scarce? Check
Daul AP ammo ~;p ? Check
Mad AI... uh singer? Check (we'll see if he can rival SHODAN, although certainly not in the same way)
The splicers seemed nasty enough to make your fear for an encounter with them, wich is good (in this case ~;p ). Only gotten that feeling in AvP2 as a marine and SS2, although in both games that feeeling started to drop about halfway through.
We do need our trusty wrench though. :2thumbsup:
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That video is really starting to get my hopes up.
Yes, it showed that the E3 interviews and the screenshots certainly weren't lying.
I think the game does look rather less absolutely terrifying than System Shock 2 - the splicers don't have the bowel loosening quality of the hybrids or cyber-midwives. And maybe the premise/story is less good, who knows? But I certainly recognised enough of the core elements of SS2 in it to make this my most anticipated game at the moment (sorry, M2TW).
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We do need our trusty wrench though. :2thumbsup:
And we got our trusty wrench :2thumbsup:
http://www.gamespot.com/events/x06/s...pslot;action;1
Seems that they weren't kidding when they said that the big daddies are strong.
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"Look Mr Bubbles Adam!"
that line alone had me hooked :inquisitive: great video really looks like theyve recreated the SS2 atmosphere
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"Look Mr Bubbles Adam!"
There's no way I am going to harm a little sister - I assumed from the freaky screenshots that they would be some kind of perverted cybermidwife type creature. But they sound so human, interfering with them would seem like child abuse. Especially when she crawls back into the damp sewer thing and says how cold it is. I wonder what the implications of a "pacifist" approach will be - how seriously will you be disadvantaged without their Adam?
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There's no way I am going to harm a little sister - I assumed from the freaky screenshots that they would be some kind of perverted cybermidwife type creature. But they sound so human, interfering with them would seem like child abuse. Especially when she crawls back into the damp sewer thing and says how cold it is. I wonder what the implications of a "pacifist" approach will be - how seriously will you be disadvantaged without their Adam?
Speak for yourself. Little sisters hold the Adam and the Adams is the precious. Me waaannnts the preciousssssss... :laugh4:
Seriously now, just because it looks like a little girl, acts like a little girl and sounds like a little girl doesn't mean it's a little girl. I dunno, call me strange but the idea of fragging cute female mutants dressed in summer frocks and pigtails who wield huge syringes for the sole purpose of draining and consuming my precious bodily fluids so as to get at some mutagenic compound called 'Adam' doesn't sway my moral compass.
Anyway, based on the recently released trailer I love the immediate visual effect Adam has those who take it (Little Sisters excepted).
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Theres something about RPGs, that if I'm ever given the opportunity to be absolutely evil beyond imagination, I do it. I don't know why, because I'm not an evil person by nature. KOTOR 1 and 2 were both good examples, my characters always seem to become extremely evil. And in Neverwinter Nights, my Character was so evil, I actually halted the story line mid-way, because I killed a Character I wasn't supposed to.
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Theres something about RPGs, that if I'm ever given the opportunity to be absolutely evil beyond imagination, I do it. I don't know why, because I'm not an evil person by nature. KOTOR 1 and 2 were both good examples, my characters always seem to become extremely evil. And in Neverwinter Nights, my Character was so evil, I actually halted the story line mid-way, because I killed a Character I wasn't supposed to.
Interesting. When I play rpgs I usually opt for the most neutral position possible with a lean towards the Neutral-Good alignment (to invoke an AD&D term). I generally despise being forced to take a path which leads to the stereotypical archetype of a 'good' or 'evil' person. But what I really loathe are games that claim you can choose your own moral and ethical path but penalize you for pursuing anything but the goody-two shoes path to pink-fluffy goodness. :angry:
As in real life I prefer my fantasy worlds filled with moral shades of gray. About the only time I lean heavily towards one alignment or the other is if the payoff (read as items, reputation or cool cutscenes) is more substantial for doing so. Oddly enough this self serving pragmatism which governs my rpg playstyle still places me in Neutral-Evil territory.
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Thread necromancy, but there is a Gamespot hands-on preview of Bioshock up:
http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/acti...;picks;title;1
It is looking good - ie System Shock 3 in all but name.
And it's good to know you can rescue the little sisters. Those big daddies had better watch out. :boxing:
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Sorry Fragony, when it comes to Thief, I must agree with you that it is one of the greatest games ever, but System Shock I was not very impressed with. It seemed a little boring and repetitive. Also, too unrealistic. It was ok, just not my favorite. Bioshock on the other hand, I think looks downright pitifull. It looks to me like a cheap carnival horror game. Is it being made by the same team that made SS2 and Thief2? I think that is the only thing that would ever convince me to buy it. :P
Didn't mean to be too harse on it, the graphics look evolved. :)
The only horror game I have ever played that I really like and that actually scared me was Doom 3. I LOVED that game and was dying to see what happened and voting for "damage" and "control" through the whole game, then the ending came... :thumbsdown:
That really :skull: the game and all the plot that had built up so far.
So yeah, I guess that means that I have never played a horror game that I liked, so if you like horror games, I guess you can discount my opinion. :P
(Though I LOVED the Doom movie :beam:)
Vuk
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If i may ,id like to Point you to Helios's Circus Maximus Article , ive written About Bioshock in it and it has the Trailer for you to watch..plus a bit on the Background of the world which i must say is absolutely Stunning.
finally they are releasing a Game that craves to your intellectual side as well.
Scroll Down to Circus Maximus to see it.
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showp...56&postcount=1
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Sorry Fragony, when it comes to Thief, I must agree with you that it is one of the greatest games ever, but System Shock I was not very impressed with. It seemed a little boring and repetitive. Also, too unrealistic. It was ok, just not my favorite.
How far did you get? No way you can like Thief and dislike System Shock. But it is what you said. Maybe you weren't in the mood, try again :yes:
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I'm confused. Is Bioshock coming out on PC at the same time as the Xbox?
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I'm confused. Is Bioshock coming out on PC at the same time as the Xbox?
Yep, both versions is announced to come out 21 August, according to gamespot.
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It will be difficult for a game to beat FEAR in my mind as the best horror/shooter out there. Doom 3 was just a joke in terms of horror; a bunch of cheap "oh no, a monster popped out" tricks.
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It will be difficult for a game to beat FEAR in my mind as the best horror/shooter out there. Doom 3 was just a joke in terms of horror; a bunch of cheap "oh no, a monster popped out" tricks.
FEAR is pretty straightforward imho, bit of shooting and creepy story sequence, got a bit old towards the end. Still heaps of fun because of the insane ai and creepy atmosphere, couldn't stop playing. They should have dehumanised the enemies, an army of cloned supersoldiers with a psychic commander just should have been cooler then it is now. Should have implemented mind tricks, it's a bit like condemned. What is there is good but should have been much much better.
ps, The Suffering is an excellent horror-shooter, you might like it.
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May try System Shock again some time. It may just be that I really don't go for the whole space thing. :P (Doom 3 being the only exception...till the ending :P)
Lehesu, I don't know how you can say that. Fear is one of the only big horror shooters I haven't played, and Doom3 is the only one that ever frightened me (yes, Vuk is confessing to being frightened) or really drew me in. The Movie was one of the best I'd ever seen. :P
Fragony, please don't be offended by my comments, it is just my opinion. :P
lol,
Vuk
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Doom was certainly the best movie-of-a-game which I have seen.
Both the game and the film though lacked interest, and so for me were not frightening. It failed to engage me enough to make me that tense to be honest. Just like every "horror" movie I've ever watched.
System Shock 2 however had enough story and character to get me involved and so care about what was happening. The game balance, especially for the first half, also made me feel extremely vulnerable. The second half was much easier, but by then I was hooked anyway.
I really hope that Bioshock doesn't prove to be a let down, it has so many interesting features. But a number of games recently have, IMO, fallen short of what they could have been. Maybe I'm getting fussy.
They seeee you! Run, ruuun!
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I love the entire game concept and all.
KOTOR made me feel sad.
I wanted to accomplish the game with a good feeling (good side).
I also wanted to wield the Sith powers (bad).
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Time to bump this thread up from the grave since the game is about to be released.
And can point that there is a demo out on the Xbox marketplace for you all to enjoy it.
*downloading now but it's taking forever*
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I will make another post so that people can see that it's updated
Anyway, finished the demo.
Pretty short but it gives you a tease of what's to come and I must say, fricking awesome.
First controls:
It's pretty simple controls, the standard Xbox controls for a fps.
Right triggers shots the weapons and left triggers uses your powers.
It's feels just like it should.
Graphics: This game is just stunning to look at.
The levels, the water, the fire etc looks great.
Also it very smooth, didn't notice any stuttering while playing.
The enemies looks cool as well. The big daddy is one of the coolest things I have seen in a game.
The light is very fitting considering your location and adds to the mood.
Sound:
The sound is top-notch not to mention creepy as hell.
It reminds me alot of SS2.
The sweet lullaby sung by the little sister is just pretty while at the same time creepy.
Gameplay:
You can only enjoy some of it but it already makes me hunger for more.
It works just like they said it would. If a enemy is standing in a pool of water then just sap it with a lightning bolt and watch him fry.
I can see great things in this.
You can pick up items lying around. Things like food, drinks(yes you can get drunk) and medpacks and other things useful.
You can also find money(which you didn't get a chance to use in the demo) and 2 soundtapes that features recordings of people living in the city that gives you a hint to what has happened.
One particular recording gave me goosebumps.
You never get the chance to fight a big daddy but you do see him in action and it put a nice smile on my face when I saw it because it was so cool.
As stated before, the game is creepy just like they promised it would be.
I was really sad when the demo ended. I really didn't want it to end.
But the game will come out the 24th and that day will be great.
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Owww god, why did the bloody thing had to die now :wall: :wall: :wall:
I should be playing demo in an hour. But xbox360 did what xbxox360 does :no:
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Well, why is there no PC demo? :inquisitive:
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Never heard of Bioshock until now and the previous one. How well does the second one run on say a ATI Radeon 9200? Every game made after FEAR, including some of the new RTS' don't even run as demos on it :no: .
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Second is almost 10 years old should work fine, may want to make a hard-drive partition because it doesn't really work well with XP. Can't buy the second anymore, if you want to download it PM me, can't link it because of rules, not legal or illegal, grey area thingie.
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It's almost 10 years old should work fine, may want to make a hard-drive partition because it doesn't really work well with XP. Can't buy the second anymore, if you want to download it PM me, can't link it because of rules, not legal or illegal, grey area thingie.
Nah it's cool. Fileplanet won't even let me down load the demo it so I figure I'd just have to wait for Bio2 and a new rig or maybe a 360 but games are always better on the comp.
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Well, why is there no PC demo? :inquisitive:
Because they like Xbox more ?? :clown:
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You can download the official artbook now, some of the paintings look quite scary.
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Well, why is there no PC demo? :inquisitive:
http://www.2kgames.com/cultofrapture/home.html
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WHAT ABOUT A BIOSHOCK PC DEMO?
August 13, 2007
After the appearance of the BioShock Demo on Xbox 360™ last night, I’m sure many of you PC fans wondered, “What about us?”
Here’s the deal.
A BioShock PC Demo IS coming. We tried as hard as humanly possible to get it out to you guys simultaneously with the 360 demo, but we needed to make sure that it was perfect -- that all drivers were ready, and that the game looked great on a huge variety of computers.
Currently, the PC demo in its final stages of testing and approval. We are pushing to get it out to you as soon as possible. It will be out during the month of August, and everyone is working at full capacity to deliver it to you before the game hits store shelves on August 21st. I will also let you know as soon as I have an exact date for the demo's release, so please stay tuned.
I cannot express enough how sorry I am for the wait. Thank you for understanding and your patience. Just remember -- only eight days left till you get your hands on the full game.
I’ll let you know where to get the demo as soon as it becomes available.
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Well first reviews are on, word is that it's good, very good. 9,5 pc gamer UK and a 10/10 in some other magazine.
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Penny Arcade's take on the demo. Warning: contains three naughty words. But very funny, as usual.
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P.S.: Seems the game has hit stores early. Some people are reporting finding it at Toys R Us, no word on whether places like GameStop have dropped the hammer.
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Hmm, or maybe not ...
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A well-written, spoiler-free review of Bioshock. I am now officially stoked for this game. To anyone who get the game today from Toys R Us: I hate you.
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I don't know, from the reviews I feel like it's going to be ' just another' FPS, albeit a really good one. I'll await the orgah's opinions (and/or demo).
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I don't know, from the reviews I feel like it's going to be ' just another' FPS, albeit a really good one. I'll await the orgah's opinions (and/or demo).
I got a similar impression, it seems like the "freedom" they mentioned is limited to having many ways to kill enemies by using them against one another. I will try the demo, but it doesn't sound as promising anymore as it did some time ago.
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A well-written,
spoiler-free review of Bioshock. I am now officially stoked for this game. To anyone who get the game today from Toys R Us:
I hate you.
Excellent review - I've bookmarked the site, in case its other reviews are of the same quality.
One dumb question: the conclusion says the game succeeds in three areas, one of which is "narrative", another is "emergence". What does it mean by "emergence"?
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There's another good review here. Quite a long one too.
I want that PC demo! :impatient froggy: I have been studiously ignoring this game, preferring to be pleasantly surprised than let down. Now it's sounding like it may well be the spiritual sucessor to System Shock 2.
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The demo is really linear, i'm kinda worried that the developers would not deliver in the open gameplay element that was present in system shock 2, but i think its some consolation if the game is well made and polished because from what i experienced in the demo it was an amazing romp.
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One dumb question: the conclusion says the game succeeds in three areas, one of which is "narrative", another is "emergence". What does it mean by "emergence"?
If I understand it correctly, it means game events that aren't programmed in a hard-wired or scripted way, that develop (often unexpectedly) from the way different program elements interact. I suppose it's like the way in M2TW you sometimes get games where the Pope is a passive faction, and in others he goes on a rampage and conquers territory. It's a consequence of how the different factions are interacting, and it's usually a little different in every game. The Spore game (if it's ever released) is an example of a game heavily based on that concept.
P.S. I'm with Froggy -- need that PC demo! I can't buy this until I know if my 2-year old system can run it fairly smoothly.
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It's the same as the PC review (Bioshock PC review IGN). Reading the review, the game immediately reminded me of Morrowind. Anybody else feel this way? Obviously they are two different games, but the open-endedness and the ability to use "powers" and weapons struck as similar to Morrowind(which I own and have spent many-a-time on, worth it too).
I don't know much about comps and all but, do you guys think a ATI Radeon 9200 AGP 8X graphics card with 2.8gigs would run the game? I don't remember if I asked this earlier but the IGN review totally makes me want to buy it... of course when I clean off my other games and the price drops:2thumbsup:.
BTW, as it seems that many of you guys are gonna get the demo and possibly the game, I was thinking that this could become the Bioshock thread where you/we all could discuss the game? Just a thought.
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Reading the review, the game immediately reminded me of Morrowind. Anybody else feel this way? Obviously they are two different games, but the open-endedness and the ability to use "powers" and weapons struck as similar to Morrowind(which I own and have spent many-a-time on, worth it too).
I guess you have not played System Shock 2? Bioshock sounds very much in that mold, so I expect it will be quite a different animal from Morrowind.
SS2 was rather linear - normally, you had one quest at a time to perform and had to do that to make progress. The quests were actually about the worst part of the game - typically, find the X to open door Y, but much more complicated. It was nice that you had a lot of freedom to roam around levels you had already unlocked, though. By contrast, in Morrowind, you can roam freely and have 101 sidequests you can be working on.
Where SS2 shone was in the narrative drive - the weak point of Morrowind. Personally, I found Morrowind ultimately felt rather dead and the lack of a strong central story left me adrift. In SS2, everyone pretty much is dead but the story is so engaging, the experience is totally gripping.
Basically, I expect Bioshock to be a very story driven game whereas Morrowind was quite the contrary.
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Good news for us PC gamers:
If you're debating which version to get, the PC version handles better. In part it's because of the greater precision with the mouse and keyboard, but also with how the plasmids and weapons are selected. [...]
The PC version definitely outclasses the Xbox 360, mostly because of the ability to crank the resolution to 1920 x 1200. If you've got a Vista rig with a DX10 card, you can expect some heightened particle effects, crisper real-time shadows, and more dynamic water, but the game looks gorgeous regardless. On our gaming PC running a Core 2 Quad processor with a GeForce 8800 GTX, and 4 GB of RAM, it ran very well, with only a few occasions of seemingly random framerate hitches. We also couldn't find an option to switch between DX10 and DX9 modes, the game just seems to default to what's in your system, unlike Lost Planet.
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Originally Posted by econ21
I guess you have not played System Shock 2? Bioshock sounds very much in that mold, so I expect it will be quite a different animal from Morrowind.
SS2 was rather linear - normally, you had one quest at a time to perform and had to do that to make progress. The quests were actually about the worst part of the game - typically, find the X to open door Y, but much more complicated. It was nice that you had a lot of freedom to roam around levels you had already unlocked, though. By contrast, in Morrowind, you can roam freely and have 101 sidequests you can be working on.
Where SS2 shone was in the narrative drive - the weak point of Morrowind. Personally, I found Morrowind ultimately felt rather dead and the lack of a strong central story left me adrift. In SS2, everyone pretty much is dead but the story is so engaging, the experience is totally gripping.
Basically, I expect Bioshock to be a very story driven game whereas Morrowind was quite the contrary.
I know you know that I'm not saying that Morrowind is better, it's just that it reminded me of it while reading the review and watching the videos. The switching between weapons and powers is what really triggered the memory. And now I doo wish I played System Shock 2.
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Good news for us PC gamers:
If you're debating which version to get, the PC version handles better. In part it's because of the greater precision with the mouse and keyboard, but also with how the plasmids and weapons are selected. [...]
The PC version definitely outclasses the Xbox 360, mostly because of the ability to crank the resolution to 1920 x 1200. If you've got a Vista rig with a DX10 card, you can expect some heightened particle effects, crisper real-time shadows, and more dynamic water, but the game looks gorgeous regardless. On our gaming PC running a Core 2 Quad processor with a GeForce 8800 GTX, and 4 GB of RAM, it ran very well, with only a few occasions of seemingly random framerate hitches. We also couldn't find an option to switch between DX10 and DX9 modes, the game just seems to default to what's in your system, unlike Lost Planet.
I checked out the games forums and that seems to be the case there too. That the PC version is gonna out do the 360 which is veeeery nice to hear. And is it out for the 360 yet? I saw a few copies at my local EB for it.
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According to the rumor mill, the Bioshock PC demo will be available at 7 p.m. EST on Monday. Both Nvidia and ATI will be releasing new drivers on Monday as well, and undersea Ayn Rand fans will be advised to install them before venturing forth.
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P.S.: Seems the game has hit stores
early. Some people are reporting finding it at Toys R Us, no word on whether places like GameStop have dropped the hammer.
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Hmm, or
maybe not ...
One of my minions works part time weekends at ToysRus and guess what, he and one other lucky nameless individual who got to the store early on Saturday have a copy... To quote this chap the box arrived with no set date on it. Normally if there is a set release date the boxes are labeled "not for public release until - ", so they did not know that it could not just go straight out. Of course this was the weekend just gone...
He also made mention that ToyRus may be being fined $10,000...
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Demos out ! I'm downloading it Fileplanet(BioShock Demo)and praying my comp runs it:saint:
Anybody else get to it?
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Played the demo. It's horrible - in a good way. I've put my pre-order in :gring: