Mafia FAQ and synopsis of previous games

Basic Rules

In its simplest form, Mafia consists of two sides: the Mafia, and the Town. The Mafia's goal is to kill the innocents, while the Town's goal is the kill the Mafia.

At the beginning of the game, the Moderator will secretly send everyone their role. The Mafia will know each other, while (in the basic game) everyone else will only know their own role.

The game has two phases. Usually the first is Night. During Night, the Town can not communicate, but the Mafia can discuss and choose someone to murder. After the Moderator has received the name of the victim, the Moderator reveals the dead player(s), and Day begins.

During Day, the Town must choose someone to Lynch; they are trying to eliminate the Mafia, but the Mafia can lead them astray by casting suspicion elsewhere. Generally, players will vote for someone they think is Mafia (the Mafia will vote so that they seem to be doing this as well, and might even vote for each other to confuse the Town); when a player gets a majority of the votes, they are lynched. Their role is/isn't revealed by the Moderator, and it is once again Night.

The game alternates between Night and Day until either the Mafia are eliminated, or the Mafia have killed everyone else.

Basic Roles

The above suffices for a Vanilla game, but most games have roles other than just Mafia and Townie. These roles have additional abilities (which are usually used during the Night, though there are some Day abilities as well). The most common are listed here.

Cop - Each night, the Cop can investigate one player (by sending their name to the Moderator), and finds out whether that player is Mafia or not. The Cop is on the Town's side.

Doctor - Each night, the Doctor can choose one player to protect (by sending their name to the Moderator). If the Mafia (or anyone else) tries to kill that player, they will fail. The Doctor is on the Town's side.

Vigilante - Each night, the Vigilante may kill another player (this varies) (by sending their name to the Moderator). The Vigilante is on the Town's side.

Mason - The Masons are a group on the Town's side who know each other and can talk to each other at Night.

Serial Killer - The Serial Killer (often abbreviated as SK), like the Vigilante, may kill another player each Night (by sending their name to the Moderator). However, the Serial Killer is not on the Town's side or the Mafia's side. The Serial Killer wins when everyone else is dead.

Multiple Families - Sometimes there is more than one group of Mafia. These act independently of one another, and must kill the other group as well as the Town in order to win.

There are many variations on the above roles that will often appear in more complicated games.

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Here's a flash introduction to Mafia and some wiki links that describe the various permutations of the game.


Here is GeneralHankerchief's

MAFIA GLOSSARY!

Abstain:Usually somone who isn't lurking in the thread, but doesn't have any clear suspects to vote for. Is not No Lynch.

Active Contributer: Someone who posts not only who they want executed, but why they think that person is guilty/innocent. Their efforts are heroic, but usually end up being killed.

Alive: This is what you want to be. If you’re alive you can still vote, and help your side (innocents or Mafia) win.

Bandwagoning: When you vote for someone purely because they have already received votes. Used by the mafia in Game II, but is now apt to get you executed.

Csar: Guilty.

Detective: One of the major roles in the game; the other being mafia member. Their job is to PM me with the name of a user they wish to investigate. I will tell them if that user is innocent or guilty. Eventually a Detective can reveal his results to everyone.

Disco Vote: When you vote for someone because they go to a rival school. Named after discovery1, who mercilessly went after Ice in Game I because he went to Michigan.

Execution: When a person is killed by way of having a majority of votes. A person who is executed may or may not be innocent.

Frontroom: The former setting of Mafia. Landmarks are added at a whim in order to provide a backdrop for the kills.

Game: One game of Mafia. Comparable to a TV season. For example, in Game I Kagemusha and Shadows killed off the entire Frontroom, earning a Mafia Victory.

Gameroom: The current setting of Mafia.

General Hankerchief: The original narrator/organizer of Mafia. Is the only one who completely knows what’s going on. In the game, he is God and thus, will occasionally hand out the Wrath of God event.

GH: General Hankerchief’s preferred abbreviation.

Ghost Detective: Someone who's dead but still helps out. General Hankerchief appreciates enthusiasm but might just kill Ghost Detectives again for good measure. Sometimes allowed be the game mod, sometimes not.

Guilty: See "Csar"

Ichigo: Guilty

Innocent: Someone who’s not a mafia member. Obviously, they are the targets of the mafia. e.g. someone other than Csar/Ichigo

Kagemusha's Curse: Kagemusha is so far the only mafioso to successfully eliminate all the villagers in a GeneralHankerchief. Ever since then, every time Kage has died, things start to go bad for the mafia. This has lead some people to believe that there's a curse of some sort that whenever Kage dies, things start to go wrong for the mafia.

Kill: When a villager is killed by a mafia member. People who are killed are innocent.

Kojiro: A person who claims to be either a mafioso or Detective, but is in reality just a plain old villager. Named after Sasaki Kojiro, who famously claimed to be the Detective in Game II.

Lurker: Someone who does not vote/doesn’t watch the thread. Lurkers will be dealt with by the Wrath of God.

Mafia: Name of the game.

Mafia member: One of the major roles in the game; the other being Detective. Their job is to PM me each session with the name of a user whom they wish to kill. If a mafia member successfully eliminates the entire Town, they earn a Mafia Victory.

Mafia Victory: Earned when a mafioso kills everyone in the Frontroom. Kagemusha did this in Game I.

Mafiosi: Plural of mafioso.

Mafioso: Shortened term of Mafia Member. Usually used in my postings of kills/execution.

Meatballing: Voting for someone for no reason. Coined by Silver Rusher when Lemur (a mafioso) voted for him in Game II on the basis that he saw SR “eating a spicy meat-a-ball.”

Murder-victims-for-justice-association (MVFJA): Started by Silver Rusher in Mafia IV, the other initial member was Tiberius. Commendably active in searching for the mafia and yet tragically, tragically off the mark in their chosen target (oh, the perks of writing the glossary)

OMGUS: Stands for "Oh My God U Suck", refers to voting someone for the sole reason that they voted you, generally seen as scummy and discouraged.

Pulling a Spartan: Claiming to be a mafioso in a misguided attempt to confuse the mafia which actually ends up confusing the villagers instead.

Reveal: The Detective does this when he thinks he has enough information to provide a Townspeople victory. Or, alternatively, he’s a suspect and wants to save himself. Reveals generally consist of who’s guilty/innocent, along with some kind of proof. For an example of a good reveal, check Tiberius’ in Game II.

Scum: Mafia/Serial Killers etc. Anti-town.

Session: A cycle of events. A “day” in Frontroom time; it’s usually two or three in real time. A session begins and ends with me posting the updated status list.

Status list: Posted with every execution. It consists of who’s alive, who’s been killed, who’s been executed, and, when applicable, who’s dead for some other reason (usually a suicide or the Wrath of God).

Suicide: When, for whatever reason, someone doesn’t want to play anymore. They are removed from the alive list. I do not accept suicides when that person is receiving a lot of votes.

Survivor: What alive innocents become when the mafia is no more. There were a few survivors in Game II; none in Game I.

Total Mafia Victory: This occurs when the Mafia succeed in wiping out the entire Frontroom, with both mafia members remaining alive. It is a total embarrassment for the innocents and the mafia get to do something special in the final scene. This has not yet occurred.

Townspeople Victory: This occurs when the Innocents are successful in ridding the Frontroom of the mafia. Chances of a Townspeople Victory are significantly increased when a Detective is lucky. This occurred in Game II.

Vote Indexing: Method invented by Kommodus in Mafia II to find the mafia. Involved a spreadsheet keeping track of how often a certain person had voted for an innocent. Rendered largely null and void in following games since the Mafia are not so foolish as to be caught by it (Kommodus himself was a mafioso in Mafia III and deliberatly fooled it).

UltraWar: Being killed and/or lynched in the first round repeatedly over various games

WIFOM: Stands for "wine in front of me" a reference to the scene from "The Princess Bride". Describes a situation where you go in an endless loop without reaching a conclusion, e.g. "He voted for himself and mafia care about living so he can't be mafia but he knew we would think that so it's a clever ploy so he is mafia but he knew we knew he knew..."

Wrath of God: (also known as Wrath of GH) What Lurkers suffer. They are no longer alive after the Wrath of God hits. The first Wrath of God famously took place in Game III but there will most likely be more. Many died from "Wrath of Silver Rusher" in the Godfather.

Write-up: General Hankerchief’s commentary on the game, posted at the end of the game. It contains his thoughts, reactions, and insightful tips that should be taken advantage of. Also, it reveals some really dumb PMs that the mafia might have sent me. :evil: Other mods post this as well, and often players with significant roles.

Quote:

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Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro

GH where is your mafia dictionary post? I can't find it.

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Here it is.

You should add Pulling a Spartan to the glossary Sasaki.

It's basically when you claim to be a mafioso to confuse them - and the villagers for that matter.

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***Update: WAAAAAAAY out of date. Apologies - GH***

Sometimes a person new to the Mafia games can get a little intimidated when they hear all the vets talking about "when something like this happened in Game X." This thread was designed to make things a little easier for these people to understand what the vets are talking about.

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Large games (those that were part of the official queue or pre-queue with over 10 players):

Mafia I
The thread GeneralHankerchief's commentary
Organized by: GeneralHankerchief.
Mafia: Shadows and Kagemusha.
Notable happenings: This was the first Org Mafia game, which meant that experience was lacking, making it easy for the mafia. Despite this, a double execution and GH letting the dead vote in the final round nailed Shadows. Kagemusha, however, became the first and so far only mafioso to survive one of GeneralHankerchief's mafia games.
Result: Mafia victory

Mafia II
The thread GeneralHankerchief's commentary
Organized by: GeneralHankerchief.
Mafia: Lemur and Cowhead418.
Detective: Tiberius.
Notable happenings: This was the first game with a Detective, and Sasaki Kojiro wasted no time in claiming to be Detective in order to give the real Detective carte blanche. Eventually Tiberius revealed Lemur to be a mafioso, who proceeds to give a vigorous (and funny) defense of himself. However, it wasn't enough, and Cowhead committed suicide afterwards.
Result: Townspeople victory

Mafia III
The thread Kommodus' commentary GH's commentary
Organized by: GeneralHankerchief.
Mafia: Kommodus and Gertgregoor (now Moros).
Detective: Crazed Rabbit.
Notable happenings: The Spartan (now God's Grace) claimed to be mafia in a weird move. Due to that plus the first appearance of Wrath of God event, killing off inactive players, the mafia were in a very good position. However, a massive collapse by Kommo and Gert in the final two rounds took them from almost certain victory to a crushing defeat.
Result: Townspeople victory

Gotta Have More Mafia
The thread Sasaki Kojiro's commentary Sigurd Fafnesbane's commentary
Organized by Sasaki Kojiro.
Italian Mafia: doc_bean (Godfather), Ice, and Silver Rusher.
Chinese Mafia: Sigurd Fafnesbane (Godfather), Wonderland, and Orb.
Serial Killer: Crazed Rabbit
Thief: Reenk Roink
Other roles were present.
Notable happenings: Everyone had a special role, resulting in a lot of suspicion and confusion. This was a three-way battle - town vs. Italian mafia vs. Chinese mafia. Eventually Sigurd Fafnesbane, Chinese Godfather, fooled everyone with a brilliant claim when the heat was on and lead his crew to victory.
Result: Chinese Mafia victory

The Godfather, Part 1
The thread GH's commentary Sasaki's commentary Silver Rusher's commentary
Organized by Silver Rusher.
Mafia: Sasaki Kojiro (mastermind), GeneralHankerchief (Godfather), GoreBag, and Cowhead418 (grunts).
Detective: Ignoramus
Notable happenings: The Godfather got to select his own mafia. GeneralHankerchief, in an elaborate alibi, instructed the mafia to kill only one person per round after the execution of a person he went after. In a twist, Sasaki Kojiro was revealed to be mafia mastermind, whose job was to select Godfather and Detective and make sure the mafia didn't screw up. Those factors ended up in the most crushing mafia victory to date, and the four mafiosi got a HOF award for their work.
Result: Total Mafia victory

Mafia IV
The thread
Organized by GeneralHankerchief.
Mafia: discovery1 and Masy.
Detective: Reenk Roink
Notable happenings: Lots of discussion, a suspiciously powerful formula devised by Kommodus (codenamed Lestrade), and a little luck got two mafiosi killed off in three rounds, ending the streak of mafia victories.
Result: Townspeople victory

Cosa Nuova
The thread Kommodus' commentary
Organized by Kommodus.
Mafia: Sasaki Kojiro, Destroyer of Hope, and Xiahou.
Detectives: Kagemusha and Seamus Fermanagh.
Doctors: Silver Rusher and Big King Sanctaphrax.
Notable happenings: This story-heavy Mafia game began with Kage and Sasaki each claiming to be Detective and the other one as Mafia. The villagers executed both just to be sure. Eventually things went the town's way (Silver's save of Peasant Phill, Seamus' perfectly-timed reveal) and suspicion fell on the other two mafiosi, who were unable to defend themselves.
Result: Townspeople victory

The Godfather, Part 2
The thread GH's commentary (Silver Rusher's commentary is still pending)
Organized by Silver Rusher.
Mafia: Csar (now Ichigo) (Godfather), GeneralHankerchief, and Myrddraal (grunts).
Detectives: theRTWGuru (now Death Match) and Dutch_guy.
Notable happenings: The longest, dirtiest, and greatest Mafia game until Capo di Tutti Capi. The twist this time was that there were two Detectives, but they were eliminated shortly. The mafia went all-out in this game, faking multiple twists and PMs, throwing suspicion everywhere, and using reverse psychology in order to survive. At the critical moment, however, there was not enough communication between them, resulting in a decisive shift of momentum.
Result: Townspeople Victory

The Black Hand 2: Organized by Sasaki Kojiro. Mafia: Sigurd Fafnesbane (Godfather), AggonyDuck, and Evil_Maniac from Mars. Serial Killer: Divine Wind. Masonic Detective: GeneralHankerchief. Notable happenings: In a game dominated by odd kills (Tinky Winky and the notorious cucumber killer :dizzy2:), Sigurd kept his amazing streak of victories in Sasaki's games going, even though the Serial Killer and Vigilante (Reenk Roink) eliminated his two flunkys early on. He clinched a victory by persuading the Masonic Detective (GH) to change his vote in the final round (this is all your fault, Silver :tongue:). Result: Mafia victory

The Age of Darkness: Organized by Ignoramus. Medieval-themed game that sadly could not finish due to villagers shirking on their PM duties.

Mafia V: Organized by GeneralHankerchief. Mafia: Reenk Roink and Seamus Fermanagh. Detective: Banquo's Ghost. Notable happenings: After Banquo got executed early, everything looked good for the mafia until a combination of Sasaki's intuition and Kommodus' formula nailed first Reenk, then Seamus. Reenk put on a good show about being the Detective and was believed, but he didn't defend his buddy enough in the end. Result: Townspeople victory

The Rise of the Mob: Organized by Csar. Mafia: Proletariat and Reenk Roink. Detective: Kagemusha. Doctor: Peasant Phill. Notable happenings: Kage investigated Prole in Round 1. She was quickly lynched. Reenk succeeded for a while in royally confusing the villagers, but eventually he told Kage he was the doctor when he already knew it was Phill. Oops. Result: Townspeople victory

Interficio quod Scrupulosa: Organized by Sir Moody. Mafia/Rebels: AggonyDuck and Don Corleone. Detective/Praetor: doc_bean. Notable happenings: An interesting Roman-themed game that had the misfortune of being held right around Christmas so activity was light. Two things sunk the mafia: doc_bean's well-timed reveal, and Don's failure to get his kill of doc in on time. Result: Senate/Townspeople victory

Grafitti Mafia: Organized by Sasaki Kojiro. Mafia: discovery1 (Godfather), Xiahou, GeneralHankerchief, and Kommodus. Soothsayer: Ituralde. Notable happenings: There were also Masons in this game, along with other more minor roles. The mafia got in trouble early when GH was caught red-handed talking to Disco in the chat, but they made the best of the situation by having Xiahou posting the evidence for all to see. Result: Mafia victory

Capo de Tutti Capi
The thread Information summary thread Seamus' commentary
Organized by Seamus Fermanagh.
Here is the complete list of roles.
Notable happenings: The mother of all mafia games. Capo had almost 60 players, and there were three mafia families, all of which could recruit more players. The game started out pretty good for the town, lynching two Dons (godfathers) and killing many other high-rank mafioso early on. After a brief lull where it looked like the Barzini family might take over, the two remaining families targeted each other in a vicious bloodbath, each knocking the other out leaving the town with a majority of players. Several rules disputes lead to the creation of the Gameroom Code of Ethics, but other than that is was a great game.
Result: Townspeople victory

The Midgard Saga
The thread Sigurd's commentary
Organized by Sigurd Fafnesbane.
Jotun (Mafia): Stig, Warluster, Alexander the Pretty Good
Gods: Husar (Odin), Seamus Fermanagh (Heimdall), Proletariat (Idun), Reenk Roink (Loki - Jotun-aligned)
Notable happenings: This was a Norse mythology-themed game, with the evil Jotun (giants) taking the place of the usual mafia. The most interesting part was the addition of Holmgang, or a system where two players could duel each other. There were over 1,600 posts but the Jotun still won big, most likely due to the Jotun's flying under the radar and Reenk's sheer volume of confusion he created. At least he got beaten by Seamus in Holmgang.
Result: Jotun victory

Mafia VI
The thread Dutch_guy's commentary GH's commentary
Organized by GeneralHankerchief.
Mafia: Dutch_guy and Andres the Cunning
Detective: Orb
Notable happenings: Well, Kage's Curse didn't take effect as he survived, but it didn't help the mafia. Dutch and Andres knocked off Orb in the second round, had the fortune of Sasaki being totally off in his accusations (when he was present), and had a really good story going involving Kommodus's noted tool Holmes, but they were still lynched in successive rounds, and had either of them survived one more then they would have won.
Result: Townspeople victory

I'm back, and I'm looking for someone to kill
The thread Mafia commentary (link in post)
Organized by Ichigo.
Mafia: Sasaki Kojiro (Godfather), CountArach, and rdeče.jabolko (grunts)
Detective: AndresTheCunning
Bus Driver: GeneralHankerchief
Notable happenings: None. Well, not really. GH threw the mafia for a loop by having them kill Kommodus when they were supposed to kill Caius Flaminius. Other than that, though, that was it. A lack of activity made this one a cynch for the mafia to win, and the townies are still weeping from the loss. On the plus side, because of this a campaign started to raise the activity in future games.
Result: Total Mafia victory

Cosa Nuova II: The Cult of Cosa Nuova
The thread Information Summary Thread
Organized by Kommodus.
Currently in progress.

Kung Fu Mafia
The thread
Organized by Sasaki Kojiro.
Currently in sign-up stage - come and join!

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Small games (12 players or less, not recognized by the official queue):

Mini-Mafia:
The thread
Organized by: Sasaki Kojiro
Mafia: Kagemusha and Crazed Rabbit
Detective: Silver Rusher
Notable happenings: The first ever Mini-Mafia, and it went badly for the still-inexperienced town. Only seven players. The game was designed to promote discussion but there wasn't enough of it and the mafia walked away with an easy win.
Result: Total Mafia victory

The Thing
The thread
Organized by UltraWar.
Thing: Orb
Notable happenings: Game was a different theme, in which a mutated Thing terrorized an industrial compound. People with most votes were only executed if they were guilty. Orb successfully managed to avoid suspicion/direct it other places.
Result: Thing victory

"Hold me over!" Mini-Mafia
The thread
Organized by: GeneralHankerchief
Mafia: CountArach and Ichigo.
Detective: Husar
Doctor: Sasaki Kojiro
Notable happenings: In a total reversal from the last Mini-Mafia, CA and Ichigo were executed one-two. Nice job, town. :2thumbsup:

The Argentum Mafia
The thread
Organized by: Caius Flaminius
Currently in limbo.

Merge of American Cosa Nostra
The thread
Organized by: Death Match
Currently in sign-up stage - join now!

ShallowCreek
The thread
Organized by: Lord Motep of Kendermore
Mafia: Caius Flaminius/pevergreen (Godfather - pever replaced Caius midway through), Sasaki Kojiro, and GeneralHankerchief (grunts).
Detective: Redleg
Other roles were present.
Notable happenings: Not much to say here really. The mafia ran all over the town and lynched/killed the most powerful roles early on. Motep will use the result of this game as a springboard for his larger game which is currently on the queue.
Result: Total mafia victory

Warluster's Mini-Mafia
The thread
Organized by: Warluster
Mafia: Stig (Godfather), Orb, and ByzantineKnight (grunts).
Detective: Alexander the Pretty Good
Doctor: Sir Boo
Notable happenings: Nice job by the mafia on this one. After Stig was lynched, the mafia regrouped and under Orb's leadership took his team to victory. Orb's record as mafia, while in small games, became a nice 3-0.
Result: Mafia victory

The Kingdom of Peace and Love
The thread
Organized by: Fenring
Currently in progress.

Monks and Masons
The thread
Organized by: pevergreen
Currently in progress.

Mental Institution Mini-Mafia
The thread
Organized by: Sasaki Kojiro
Currently in progress.

Citadel of Alamut
The thread
Organized by: Orb
Currently in progress.

The Legend of Davenport
The thread
Organized by: Lord Motep of Kendermore
Currently in sign-up stage - come and join!

The 3 Sons of Algamar
The thread
Organized by: Sir Boo
Currently in sign-up stage - come and join!

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Failed games (games for, whatever reason, did not finish properly or failed to take off in the first place):

Werewolf
The thread
Organized by Sasaki Kojiro
Comments: Originally set up to be like the first Mini-Mafia, but more active. Sasaki put it aside due to activity in other games and it hasn't been needed to be picked up.

Who Goes There
The thread
Organized by Zorba (now Reverend Gonzo).
Comments: An interesting premise, but not enough people knew about the backstory of the novella of the same name. Failed due to Zorba lacking the time to host.

The Black Hand 1
The thread
Organized by Sasaki Kojiro.
Comments: Sasaki implemented a complicated mole system in which a mafioso would infiltrate the masons and vice versa. However, doc_bean tried to circumvent this system and was exposed, resulting in Sasaki blowing up the town and starting The Black Hand 2 (see above). Kommodus explains the situation nicely here.

The Invisible Man
The thread
Organized by theRTWGuru (now Death Match).
Comments: This is what happens when you don't use the queue. Two good games were going on already, and the game simply never started due to lack of interest.

The Invisible Man 2
The thread
Organized by theRTWGuru (now Death Match).
Comments: Guru tried again at a later time, meeting the same results as Attempt #1.

The Age of Darkness
The thread
Organized by Ignoramus.
Comments: Interesting medieval-themed game that was going off to a great start. However, some villagers were shirking on their PM duties and Ignoramus took too long to continue, resulting in everyone just revealing their role. Shame, really.

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As of Feb 8 2007 the mini-games are up to date. Tomorrow I'll work on putting the rest of the large games in the new format. Phew!

Nice idea GH

Merged with Mafia FAQ for neatness.


Also updated the Glossary a bit, if someone wants something added or sees a bit that needs updating just let me know.

I've just noticed an interesting development, at least in my games anyway.

As we all know, Kagemusha is so far the only mafioso to successfully eliminate all the villagers in my games. He accomplished this feat in Mafia I.

Ever since then, every time Kage has died, things start to go bad for the mafia. In Mafia II, he was killed by Cowhead. Very soon the suspicions start falling on Lemur. In Mafia III he is Wrath of Godded and shortly after the mafia collapse. In Mafia IV he is executed in the first round. The next two people to be executed are the two mafiosi.

I think there's a curse of some sort that whenever Kage dies, things start to go wrong for the mafia. This is probably just superstition, but you can put it in the glossary if you want.

Quote:

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Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief

I think there's a curse of some sort that whenever Kage dies, things start to go wrong for the mafia. This is probably just superstition, but you can put it in the glossary if you want.

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Certainly seems to be the case in this round, though this time things went bad for the mafia when he died because he was a mafioso.

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Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro

Certainly seems to be the case in this round, though this time things went bad for the mafia when he died because he was a mafioso.

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Lol! :laugh4: I believe that things will start going bad this time for the mafia also.I maybe dead, but Im getting a Mafioso called Sasaki Kojiro to join me ,if the town people are clear headed as i trust they are.

Quote:

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Originally Posted by Kagemusha

Lol! :laugh4: I believe that things will start going bad this time for the mafia also.I maybe dead, but Im getting a Mafioso called Sasaki Kojiroto join me ,if the town people are clear headed as i trust they are.

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But if I was a mafioso then things would have started going bad when you accused me, not when you died. Therefore I can't be a mafioso, because that would break the chain.

The point is moot gentlemen, because it's only during my games. :laugh4:

Hey GH, in The Black Hand, I was also a mafioso.

Quote:

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Originally Posted by Kommodus

Hey GH, in The Black Hand, I was also a mafioso.

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Sorry about that. Fixed.

That game still confuses me. :dizzy2:

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Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief

That game still confuses me. :dizzy2:

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My understanding of the situation in general was this:

There were three mafiosi and three masons; no other roles. However, one of the mafiosi was actually an undercover mason, and one of the masons was an undercover mafioso. I was the undercover mafioso pretending to be a mason, and doc_bean was the undercover mason.

I didn't know the identities of my fellow mafiosi, and they didn't know me. However, doc_bean knew the identities of the masons as well as the mafia; the only thing he didn't know was which of the masons was the undercover mafioso.

The obvious problem with this setup, of course, is the apparent power of the undercover mason. What's to stop him from simply ratting out the mafia when he already knows their identities?

The undercover mason role is not a new invention. In the party game setup, however, its power is moderated thus: at any time, the real mafia may point out the mole in their midst. If they get it right, they automatically win and the town loses. This means that the undercover mason (by whatever name the role goes) would be foolish to ever rat out his "friends", since the only way to do it is publicly and would lead to the immediate loss of his side. He must find other ways to undermine the mafia from within.

Sasaki tried to do something similar to this by telling doc_bean that if he were killed by the mafia, the game would immediately end with a mafia victory. Obviously, this would prevent him from publicly giving out information until there was only one mafioso left. However, the forum game is a bit different than the party game, and doc_bean found a way around the apparent restriction by creating a new account, allowing him to anonymously PM what he knew to the townspeople.

doc_bean omitted the masons and the mafia from his PM. However, some of the townspeople publicly quoted his PM, allowing Sasaki to get wind of what he had done. Sasaki, realizing his rules had been compromised and that the game would be effectively over if allowed to continue, ended the game.

Yep, that pretty much sums up that game.

Quote:

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Originally Posted by Dutch_guy

You should add Pulling a Spartan to the glossary Sasaki.

It's basically when you claim to be a mafioso to confuse them - and the villagers for that matter.

:balloon2:

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perhaps know it should be called pulling God's Grace.

Well with the conclusion of TBH2, all 4 of my mafia games have ended in a mafia victory. The only other games to end in mafia victory were Mafia I where I wasn't playing, and TGF1 where I was mafia. Lesson: discussion really helps!

Current score: 7-5 in favor of mafia.

The synopsis (post 4) will be going through a series of edits in the coming days, in order to make it more organized and informative. Several new additions will be:

- Games being split into sections by size
- Links to the threads and commentaries if applicable
- Rewriting the descriptions for the earlier games
- Not mushing the roles, happenings, and result together

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Originally Posted by Sasaki

Csar: Guilty.

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wtf? I just noticed this that's dirty Sasaki really dirty.:bigcry:

P.S. Maybe you should change the name?:beam:

lol I actually liked that one

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Originally Posted by Ichigo

wtf? I just noticed this that's dirty Sasaki really dirty.:bigcry:

P.S. Maybe you should change the name?:beam:

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Glossary updated ~D

Also interesting to note, the mafia extend their winning streak in my games to 5-0 ~:eek:

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Guilty: See "Csar"

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:idea2:

Had I known that these games were so fun, I would have joined them months ago....But sadly, I did not.

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Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro

Glossary updated ~D

Also interesting to note, the mafia extend their winning streak in my games to 5-0 ~:eek:

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You keep choosing the good Mafiosi players :beam:

Add this:

UltraWar: Being killed and/or lynched in the first round repeatedly over various games

Change this to add more detail if you'd like :inquisitive:

How can abstain not be up there? There's people that don't know the difference you know ~;)

Abstain:Usually somone who isn't lurking in the thread, but doesn't have any clear suspects to vote for. Is not No Lynch.

Why No Lynch isnt on the list?

No Lynch:Other type of vote.When you dont think in a suspect and you want to kill anyone for the goodness to the town(or the mafia).This can be used in every part of a Mafia game, but this can be suspected, because anyone can think you are covering a mafioso and this can make you executed
My two cents to the glossary.Modificate it if you want.

Why arent :

QFT: Quoted for Truth. When you quote a post to reinforce a point, or agree with someone else's point.

QFAT: Same as above, but Quoted for Absolute Truth

On the list?

actually pever, in the context of mafia qft would be used with its original meaning (ie quoting someone so that the true content of their post remains even if they edit it out)

:bow:

I picked it up at another site where you cant edit your posts.

So Hanky? When's the next update?

Yeah Migard and quite a few mini mafias are done.

It's been a busy week. I'll try to get to it over the weekend but I can't promise anything.

Maybe add this website? here

FoS:Finger of Suspicion

HoS: Hand of Suspicion
ToS: Toe of Suspicion
BoS: Body of Suspicion

Hey GH, any plans on updating the synopsis of past games any time soon? I'm not saying you necessarily want to keep doing this for all games going forward, just the ones listed there now.

I can help you GH, if you want

If someone could provide me the links to all of the newer threads that I haven't put on the list (and possibly the commentaries if applicable) that'd be great.

I've also decided that I'm not going to do a synopsis for the mini games anymore - only the links and the result of the game.

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Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief

If someone could provide me the links to all of the newer threads that I haven't put on the list (and possibly the commentaries if applicable) that'd be great.

I've also decided that I'm not going to do a synopsis for the mini games anymore - only the links and the result of the game.

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You will have a PM from me.

im sorry, im too lazy to point you in the direction of M&M:R

I looked aroound online and came up with:

History of Online Mafia Games:

part 1:

MafiaScum, however, is devoted to the online version of the game. As far as anyone knows, this version was first attempted in August 2000 on the Grey Labyrinth. It was so successful that mith (a regular GL-er) felt it warranted its own site. Online Mafia has the potential for more strategy and subtlety because it removes most of the possibility for cheating and provides players with a chance to form suspicion based on logic and voting patterns instead of facial expression. It also has the potential for just as many, if not more, laughs, because the players can act however they like, no matter how shy they might be in real life. (From Wiki)

The game of course was a staraight favourite, and was refined until there was millions of roles and themes and everyone couldn't keep track so its really popular now.

part 2: Coming later, read part 1 for now.
part 3: comign later, read part 2 for now.

Thank you Caius. :bow:

I'll try to get at it over the course of the week.

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Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief

Thank you Caius. :bow:

I'll try to get at it over the course of the week.

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It was incomplete GH.

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Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief

Thank you Caius. :bow:

I'll try to get at it over the course of the week.

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I dont see any new update.

Shall this thread ever be updated? Much has happed since the last update to this thread. Shall thee ever come to restore this thread to it's proper and noble station? Or wilt thou leave it to flounder in the dust?

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Originally Posted by Kal 'Motep

Shall this thread ever be updated? Much has happed since the last update to this thread. Shall thee ever come to restore this thread to it's proper and noble station? Or wilt thou leave it to flounder in the dust?

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Probably does need a bit of tidying up.

Seriuosly, Hanky. Update. Update. Update. :gah2: :gah2: :gah2:

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Originally Posted by Kal 'Motep

Seriuosly, Hanky. Update. Update. Update. :gah2: :gah2: :gah2:

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Off course, you could also read the games that are finished but not yet summarised and do it yourself, afterwards pm'ing GH your work and asking him to implement it in his post...

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Originally Posted by Andres

Off course, you could also read the games that are finished but not yet summarised and do it yourself, afterwards pm'ing GH your work and asking him to implement it in his post...

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Uhh...umm...uh...you see...uhhh.......:sweatdrop:

I need more time...

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I need more time...

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I guess GH also have lack of time.

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Originally Posted by Kal 'Motep

Uhh...umm...uh...you see...uhhh.......:sweatdrop:

I need more time...

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Indeed.

Now I'm sure that, since you are aware of my predicament, you will not nag me as much.

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Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief

Indeed.

Now I'm sure that, since you are aware of my predicament, you will not nag me as much.

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Originally Posted by Ichigo

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:laugh4:

Anyone know useful site for deciding peoples roles?

Random.org hates me:wall:

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Originally Posted by Beefy187

Anyone know useful site for deciding peoples roles?

Random.org hates me:wall:

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Write the names on uniform slips of paper, shuffle them up a bit, and pick them at random as you go through the roles.

I suppose I should throw my name into the hat.

I have hosted 2 mafia games, and preparing a third huge one if I can.

edit: Next post, I should have an update.

edit: updated again.

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Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy

Me, on me:
Mafia: So far, so good.

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Are you a mafia in one of the games :inquisitive:

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

:clown:

I think this thread needs a update. I'm willing to do it if I'm allowed to/ if people don't care about stuff done in terrible grammer.

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Originally Posted by Beefy187

I think this thread needs a update. I'm willing to do it if I'm allowed to/ if people don't care about stuff done in terrible grammer.

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You'd be a trooper if you did; the last game to be put in the update, Cosa Nuova II, was my first game. :sweatdrop:

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Originally Posted by seireikhaan

You'd be a trooper if you did; the last game to be put in the update, Cosa Nuova II, was my first game. :sweatdrop:

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Thats ok. I got heaps of time. :yes:

Although I may need some help from native speakers/ those who actually know exactly what "mafia" is instead of player like me who enjoys getting lynched :sweatdrop:

If you do the work, send it to me for spelling and grammar checks. :bow:

And no, I am not mafia in one of the current games, in case anyone believes me. Just really, really dumb.

Yeah, beefy we are here to help.

I can comment on any game i've been in. I remember them. :yes:

also. lol.

Alright, Ill start with listing up the results and roles for each game.

I don't think I can do the commentaries for the game I wasn't even in, so I'll be needing some help from ATPG and pever for that.

I'll just take it to the mafia players social group if I need some input :bow:

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Kagemusha's Curse: Kagemusha is so far the only mafioso to successfully eliminate all the villagers in a GeneralHankerchief.

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:shocked: GH is hiding tiny villagers inside himself.