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As I said on twcenter, I'm ready to help your team to collevt information about Circassia. I don't know what infos you have about this land, but I will write here what I know.
Circassia inmedieval was a hal Christain and half Pagan country. Christianity here came from Byzantine Empire and from Georgia. Circassia was much bigger then todayss Karachai-Cherkessian, Kabardino-Balkarian and Agyde republics are. It had conntacts with Byzantine Empire, Georgia, Khazaria, and Kiev.
for pictures and other info I will write on Circassian forums that they can help, but before they reply I will show you what I have.
I'm not allowed to post urls, so it isn't my fault that you can't see the picutres in this post.
This is an Circassian monaastry, that maybe for you is similar to greek, georgia, or armenian architecture, but it trust me, it is uniqe in his way. I have seen hundreds of churches in that stille, but this one is uniqe!(sorry for taftology)
http://www.travel-images.com/russia48.jpg
http://www.kchr.info/photogalereya/arhiz/8.jpg
http://www.travel-images.com/russia207.jpg
I don't know if this picture will help you, because this swords and daggers have a verry big oriental infuence, but maybe you can see the Circassian details and elements:
http://www.travel-images.com/russia434.jpg
A verry, verry useful site:
http://www.adygaunion.com/gallery/index.php?cat=23
wating...:wall:
[img=https://img204.imageshack.us/img204/7413/1315vvgi5.th.jpg]
XIII-XV сс - Circassia
http://www.circassianworld.com/ - links & publication
http://forum.russianamerica.com/f/sh...6&postcount=81 - map of Kingdom of Abkhazia IX-XI cc
https://img204.imageshack.us/img204/...15vvgi5.th.jpg
Circassia (XIII-XV cc)
https://img205.imageshack.us/img205/...tgr1bi6.th.jpg
Circassia (in window - XV c)
http://forum.russianamerica.com/f/sh...0&postcount=44
Circassian knight & ship
http://forum.russianamerica.com/f/sh...49&postcount=6
Circassian knights.
http://forum.chronarda.ru/index.php?...ndpost&p=36969
Circassian weapons.
http://forum.chronarda.ru/index.php?...ndpost&p=36907
Circassians.
http://forum.russianamerica.com/f/sh...9&postcount=27
Circassian colours (any for example).
https://img221.imageshack.us/img221/...amgaeb3.th.jpg
Circassian blazonry (for exemple)
Dear all,
I found your interesting idea about Circassia and would like to help with research and information.
I administrate adygaunion.org/gallery and have answers to many of your questions about Circassian weapons, armor and landmarks.
Also there are few more people who might be interested in helping out by giving information.
If you would like to go forward with this idea please contact me via e-mail or here int he forum.
Thank you.
http://www.circassianworld.com/Circassian_Names.html - Circassian Names (Mediaeval, Names of the Narts etc)
https://img359.imageshack.us/img359/...16orkc4.th.png
Circassian Prince.
https://img80.imageshack.us/img80/75...cassmp7.th.jpg
Circassian Chief.
https://img226.imageshack.us/img226/...ume1lt7.th.jpg
Circassian (Adyghe) prince (pschi).
https://img208.imageshack.us/img208/...ume2hp5.th.jpg
Circassian (Adyghe) nobility (wark).
house
https://img206.imageshack.us/img206/3024/una2vz6.th.jpg
https://img263.imageshack.us/img263/...youtdv6.th.jpg
https://img82.imageshack.us/img82/14...hkharz4.th.jpg
https://img85.imageshack.us/img85/33...ure6hn4.th.jpg
https://img85.imageshack.us/img85/91...ure7sj5.th.jpg
https://img85.imageshack.us/img85/49...re21mz4.th.jpg
Petihorcy (Circassian):
https://img226.imageshack.us/img226/...rcy1fd2.th.jpg
http://www.circassianworld.com/kruszynski.html - "Circassian Princes in Poland: The Five Princes" By Marcin Kruszynski.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gedonist
+ anather coloures of Circessian Princes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Gedonist
https://img97.imageshack.us/img97/7614/tam003qp2.th.jpg
https://img292.imageshack.us/img292/...m002nk0.th.jpg
https://img97.imageshack.us/img97/8766/tam001ue4.th.jpg
Circassian galley:
https://img144.imageshack.us/img144/...navypb9.th.gif
Circassian village:
https://img74.imageshack.us/img74/67...des2cj8.th.jpg
antician maps of Circassia:
https://img201.imageshack.us/img201/...iiicmj4.th.png
https://img152.imageshack.us/img152/...0094ti6.th.jpg
https://img236.imageshack.us/img236/3504/san2px3.th.gif
https://img67.imageshack.us/img67/82...us10gi2.th.jpg
https://img67.imageshack.us/img67/9430/locus8hf2.th.jpg
https://img64.imageshack.us/img64/8172/4734ig4.th.jpg
anather ancient map of Circassia:
https://img90.imageshack.us/img90/6243/2172jv8.th.jpg
map of Circassia from 1840 y:
https://img232.imageshack.us/img232/...1840cv7.th.jpg
ty menja izvini no prechom Apkhazija k Cherkessiju?Quote:
Originally Posted by Gedonist
ja kaneshna znaju chto Apkhazci i Cherkesci bratskie narodi, no Apkhazskaja carstva abjedenila Gruziju, i ana budet v sastav Gruzinksava Carstva.
В рассматриваемый период (IX-XI вв) - Абхазское царство в некоторые промежутки своей истории включало не только Абхазию и Грузию, но и Зихию (т. е. Черкессию или скорее ее часть - именно из-за этой части я включил ссылку в данный топик).Quote:
Originally Posted by yakuza
Абхазский вопрос обычно обсуждается очень эммоционально, но я согласен, что Абхазия, если рисовать карту средневекового Кавказа широкими мазками, окажется в одной единице с Грузией, а не с Черкессией.
PS Пользуясь случаем, я хотел бы еще раз поблагодарить тебя за то объявление, что ты разместил - Спасибо.
These are all Circassians:
https://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i...herkezebi1.jpg
https://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i...herkezebi2.jpg
I think you should add these with a mace as a special unit :)
V to vremja mezdu nashix narodov ne bylo takie durnie konflikti, Gruzija i Cherkessija byli kak bratja, i krome etova, ja buduwi kavkazolog i ja tolka rad pamoch sasedam :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Gedonist
Спасибо на добром слове:-)Quote:
Originally Posted by yakuza
https://img86.imageshack.us/img86/85...enkoxr3.th.jpg
Kaffa
In the late 13th century, traders from Genoa arrived and purchased the town from the ruling Golden Horde. They established a flourishing trading settlement called Caffa (or Kaffa), which virtually monopolised trade in the Black Sea area and served as the chief port and administrative centre for the Genoese settlements around the Sea. It came to house one of Europe's biggest slave markets.
Under Genoa since 1266, it was governed by a Genoese consul, who since 1316 was in charge of all of all Genoese Black Sea colonies
It is believed that the devastating pandemic the Black Death entered Europe for the first time via Caffa in 1347. It is believed that the bubonic plague first entered Europe with the movements of the Golden Horde. After a protracted siege during which the Mongol army under Janibeg was reportedly withering from the disease, they catapulted the infected corpses over the city walls, infecting the inhabitants. The Genoese traders fled transferring the plague via their ships into the south of Europe, from whence it rapidly spread.
Because the Genoese started intervening in the internal affairs of the Crimean Khanate, a turkish vassal, the Ottoman commander Gedik Ahmet Pasha seized the city in 1475. Renamed Kefe, it became one of the most important Turkish ports on the Black Sea.
Circassians:
https://img85.imageshack.us/img85/9339/foto80qv9.th.jpg
https://img214.imageshack.us/img214/...to79ya0.th.jpg
https://img217.imageshack.us/img217/4723/mancu4.th.jpg
https://img214.imageshack.us/img214/...to91pz6.th.jpg
https://img82.imageshack.us/img82/4867/foto78ve9.th.jpg
https://img88.imageshack.us/img88/7831/foto64zh7.th.jpg
https://img207.imageshack.us/img207/...shipdl4.th.jpg
https://img227.imageshack.us/img227/...yghepu9.th.jpg
https://img207.imageshack.us/img207/...fpolfq0.th.jpg
https://img213.imageshack.us/img213/...evaleb5.th.jpg
https://img207.imageshack.us/img207/...itesbb4.th.jpg
Kabardian wark kafe (Circassian aristocratic dance):
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...7&q=circassian
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...3&q=circassian
Prince Ali bin al Hussein
https://img204.imageshack.us/img204/...abmprn5.th.jpg
https://img340.imageshack.us/img340/9259/40th8.th.jpg
Circassian legion of the French (Syria).
https://img208.imageshack.us/img208/...oto1ka7.th.jpg
https://img207.imageshack.us/img207/...ar68bc4.th.jpg
Circassian male shoes:
https://img205.imageshack.us/img205/...ear1ir1.th.jpg
Circassien male clothes:
https://img215.imageshack.us/img215/...c0d9vc0.th.jpg
https://img215.imageshack.us/img215/...ashajs7.th.jpg
Circassian armour:
https://img219.imageshack.us/img219/3519/afa3pc9.th.jpg
https://img219.imageshack.us/img219/3066/afa1yy8.th.jpg
https://img221.imageshack.us/img221/...kanioc6.th.jpg
https://img224.imageshack.us/img224/9331/gun1ks8.jpg
https://img227.imageshack.us/img227/...ponsoz4.th.jpg
https://img215.imageshack.us/img215/...ddd1sd4.th.jpg
https://img227.imageshack.us/img227/3590/afa6rl5.th.jpg
https://img207.imageshack.us/img207/84/afa5nw1.th.jpg
https://img221.imageshack.us/img221/6282/afa2xd1.th.jpg
https://img204.imageshack.us/img204/9347/gun5pf9.jpg
https://img221.imageshack.us/img221/9485/afa4xu0.th.jpg
https://img221.imageshack.us/img221/7328/gun5nf2.jpg
https://img204.imageshack.us/img204/1240/afa7rd0.th.jpg
Circassian saber:
https://img213.imageshack.us/img213/...ata1ve1.th.jpg
Circassian cavalry sword (sashkhua):
https://img220.imageshack.us/img220/...hua3fy4.th.jpg
https://img221.imageshack.us/img221/...ua15lg7.th.jpg
https://img205.imageshack.us/img205/...ua11lr5.th.jpg
https://img209.imageshack.us/img209/...hua9vq9.th.jpg
https://img208.imageshack.us/img208/...hua2xa0.th.jpg
https://img208.imageshack.us/img208/...hua1xh8.th.jpg
https://img219.imageshack.us/img219/...ua18cr7.th.gif
Cicassian dagger:
https://img205.imageshack.us/img205/1875/k21ci1.th.jpg
https://img204.imageshack.us/img204/...ma33oa2.th.jpg
https://img392.imageshack.us/img392/...ma13jy6.th.jpg
https://img219.imageshack.us/img219/5813/mix4zp6.th.jpg
https://img219.imageshack.us/img219/...ra07cn2.th.jpg
https://img81.imageshack.us/img81/7376/k2qz4.th.jpg
https://img81.imageshack.us/img81/3786/kama3yh1.th.jpg
https://img204.imageshack.us/img204/...ama5gj8.th.jpg
Circassian gun:
https://img344.imageshack.us/img344/787/foch5wn3.th.jpg
https://img450.imageshack.us/img450/...ra23yf8.th.jpg
https://img450.imageshack.us/img450/...ed71rr2.th.jpg
https://img224.imageshack.us/img224/...och6mk1.th.jpg
https://img226.imageshack.us/img226/...fle1ah1.th.jpg
https://img218.imageshack.us/img218/...ch12jv7.th.jpg
https://img218.imageshack.us/img218/...och7uj4.th.jpg
https://img218.imageshack.us/img218/...ch10gy8.th.jpg
https://img81.imageshack.us/img81/51...daddrn8.th.jpg
https://img205.imageshack.us/img205/...och2su9.th.jpg
https://img205.imageshack.us/img205/...stolvo0.th.jpg
https://img80.imageshack.us/img80/6585/foch3fx7.th.jpg
https://img205.imageshack.us/img205/...och9sx8.th.jpg
https://img205.imageshack.us/img205/8999/gunsx7.th.jpg
https://img205.imageshack.us/img205/3174/gunseq9.th.jpg
https://img219.imageshack.us/img219/...ch13bn2.th.jpg
https://img134.imageshack.us/img134/...och8vk4.th.jpg
Circassian mix:
https://img83.imageshack.us/img83/1824/oruzhnh2.th.jpg
https://img83.imageshack.us/img83/9905/mix10xw7.th.jpg
https://img226.imageshack.us/img226/5987/mix1pz5.th.jpg
https://img213.imageshack.us/img213/6973/mix9br5.th.jpg
https://img440.imageshack.us/img440/8725/mix8mc9.th.jpg
https://img213.imageshack.us/img213/5723/mix7be3.th.jpg
https://img205.imageshack.us/img205/8644/mix6qn9.th.jpg
Circassian lady:
https://img221.imageshack.us/img221/...man2fy6.th.jpg
https://img222.imageshack.us/img222/...man1ii6.th.jpg
https://img228.imageshack.us/img228/...ab1dfj6.th.jpg
https://img226.imageshack.us/img226/...0d9dms9.th.jpg
https://img222.imageshack.us/img222/...e46aip6.th.jpg
https://img222.imageshack.us/img222/...ic11vx3.th.jpg
https://img222.imageshack.us/img222/...entset2.th.jpg
https://img227.imageshack.us/img227/...otwear2hu8.jpg
https://img208.imageshack.us/img208/...0048ui6.th.jpg
wow! I think this picture will be verry useful for modeling circassian units, I wish I could 3D modeling, I would do it myself.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gedonist
one question, the circassians had chain armor under clothes? I havn't seen such clothing in Georgia or north-east Caucasia.
Все верно - панцирь (или кольчугу - в описаниях Черкесских доспехов это синонимы) одевали под особую боевую куртку (обычно красного цвета) - тэджэлей - ее изображения видны на многих запостенных мною гравюрах.Quote:
Originally Posted by yakuza
На некоторых миниатюрах панцирь изображен одетым прямо под черкеску, но для Кабардинской панцирной конницы (бывшей в рассматриваемое время эталоном) все же это нехаррактерно.
Кстати, на панцирь сверху могло крепиться стальное зерцало (я видел прямоугольной формы) или медные "мишени" - обычно шесть штук.
По огнестрелу - все запостенные мною ружья - нарезные кремневые - гладкоствольные практически не применялись (круглая пуля из гладкоствольного ружья не пробивала кабардинский панцирь, а подкольчужник амортизировал удар, хотя он оставался чувствительным).
Есть сведения о том что бронировались и кони (на них также надевали "трехкольчужный" панцирь), но к XVIII в это уже было нечасто, да и ранее видимо редко практиковалось.
Хотел бы обратить внимание - шашку носят не так как саблю, а вогнутой стороной вперед!
Собственно Черкесские сабли и палаши (последние встречаются реже) имеют специфическую особенность - их клинки заканчиваются штыком. К сожалению у меня нет качественного изображения хорошо сохранившихся экземпляров Черкесских сабель и палашей в электронном виде - я запостил то что есть.
На всякий случай:
http://www.adygaunion.us/Wiki/index....B0%D1%80%D1%8C - Военно-наезднический словарь - там много терминов, включая коммандные должности.
Впрочем вопрос о ношении "тэджэлей" поверх панциря или просто черкесски есстественно был на рассмотрении самого наездника - униформы ведь не было :-)Quote:
Originally Posted by Gedonist
Хотя - маленькая деталь - обувь :-) - только Князья/Принцы (Пщы) могли носить красную обувь. За рыцарями/узденями (уорками) был закреплен желтый цвет обуви. Только Пщы имели право украшать свои стрелы белыми орлинными перьями, и только Пщы или уорк имели право пользоваться луком (возможно из-за этого он так использовался вместе с огнестрелом). Впрочем последнее надо еще раз уточнить...
PS To yakuza:
Последнее что хотелось бы отметить - качество войск.
Начну с позитива - у Черкесов была великолепная конница (многие источники называют ее просто "лучшей", особенно Кабардинскую панцирную). Наездники были практически универсальны - они могли не только вести конный бой, но и вести правильную осаду (с использованием траншей и щитов-мантилетов непробиваемых гладкоствольными пушками) и штурм (впрочем часто неудачный), они могли спешившись вести снайперскую дуэль, прекрассно владели искусством маскировки, форсировали реки с помощью надувных мехов и пр.
Черкесская пехота же была плохо дисциплинирована и эффективна только при обороне завалов, каких-либо пунктов (сел, которые чаще просто бросали до прихода противника, лесов, где, в случае если лес священный, бились насмерть и пр.) и "беспокойстве" отступающего противника. Обычно пехота состояла из ополчения той местности куда вторгся враг, так как при наступательных операциях за пределами свой родной местности ее не применяли (мне во всяком случае НИ РАЗУ не попадались сведения о применении Черкесской пехоты в походе за пределы родного края - речь всегда и только о коннице).
"Линейная пехота" у Черкесов же просто не существовала как род войск.
Пехота "демократических" стран Черкессии должна была быть в целом лучше чем "аристократических", где простолюдины часто не имели права даже держать оружие и лошадей, и, возможно, "демократы" были эффективнее.
Артиллерия у Черкесов была - имеются эпизодические свидетельства о ее использовании, но в основном это были фальконеты, их всегда было ничтожное количество и до конца существования Черкессии в ней так и не научились использовать пушки по-взрослому.
Что касается флота, то Черкесские пиратские флотилии были весьма известны на Черном море с античных времен и до рубежа XVIII/XIX вв, когда Черное море перешло под Русский контроль. Ставка в морском бою была на абордаж, так как опять же практически не применялась артиллерия, зато в этом ребята толк знали:-) Грабили часто и побережья, причем внушительными флотилиями.
Любопытно как в Вашем моде будет выглядеть эволюция таких своеобразных вооруженных сил, а также интерессно будет увидеть Черкесскую линейную пехоту:-) - все-таки это всего-лишь игра:-) в ней можно делать такие отступления...
jsno, nodumaju dlja sozdatelei igri luche esli eti posti budut na angliskom:D
no spasiba za informaciju, maji lektori kavkazologii takix by ne skazali:D
kstati kak vy cherkesku nazivaete? my ejo nazivaem choxa, i kak ja sliwal eta udiiskoe slova.
This is an armor of Uork yes?
http://circassian.narod.ru/images/circass/circas4.jpg
Quote:
Originally Posted by yakuza
I mean this:
http://circassian.narod.ru/images/circass/circas4.jpg
Мы называем черкеску "цей", а целиком костюм называем "Адыгэ фащэ".Quote:
Originally Posted by yakuza
По-моему это стилизация - не очень похоже на аутентичную вещь...Quote:
Originally Posted by yakuza
Blazonry of Russian Princes from Circassian:
Chercassky:
https://img204.imageshack.us/img204/...8vu3nl0.th.png
Lopukhin:
https://img226.imageshack.us/img226/...khinvq1.th.jpg
Excellent work !
Are those pictures suitable fro the period between 1570 and 1700 ?Quote:
Originally Posted by yakuza
Please check the thread we used to gather information about Circassia for MTW1 edition of the mod
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=60860
ESPECIALLY this post with the unit list I am using
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showp...5&postcount=58
:2thumbsup:
no :laugh4:Quote:
Originally Posted by cegorach
This is my personal opinion about how Cicassian units must look like
1. The elite warriors with a mace, like this one:
https://img141.imageshack.us/img141/6282/bulavaqg8.jpg
or the sitting guy:
https://img208.imageshack.us/img208/...0086yu1.th.jpg
I don't know, maybe these type of warriors have special name.
2.Werk Horsemen, kabardinian horseman with heavy armor and swords.
[/b]3.[/b]LCircassian Light Cavalry, or just Jigits, without armor, wearing only with the thik tartan wool thing (I mean the black bulletproof clothe on shoulders). whith bows, and swords.
This thing on his heat, as you seen in many pictures(works as a hood)
https://img215.imageshack.us/img215/...lefashajs7.jpg
4.Adyghe Nobility, with Armor, clothe on armor, sword and shield.
The left one:
http://forum.russianamerica.com/f/at...1&d=1158684164
https://img85.imageshack.us/img85/59...o146fv9.th.jpg
5.Abreks, the same as nobility only with the thick tartan thing and a gun.
This units are only my imaginations, let's wait for gedonist, and see wath he says about hystorical acuracies of this units and it's names.
Okay first of all salute to Yakuza and Gedonist; they have done a great job!
Some of those images looks more like 1750 - 1850 but they are acceptable (with some modifications) for an earlier or much later period...
Anyway games period:
1570-1700
Weapons largely the same except Firearms.
Shashka is acceptable it was just introduced in late 1500s and was used until WW II...
The dagger (kindjal) goes back to Roman era.
Firearms...
well I guess in 1570 it was Matchlock muskets (firearms very rare in Caucasus during 1500s, nobility -Work- class maybe)
Maybe just include pistols?... But lets not forget Circassians fought like dragoons somewhat. North Caucasians used their horses body for cover (the horse actually were trained for this). They used Horse saddle or head to aim!
Pause at 2.15 to see a picture of this.
nothing political!!! just look at the frame at 02m.15s please
I can't find this anywhere else. :book:
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Arrows more common (arguably even in 1650-1700)
Long Flintlock muskets (with painted Caucasian designs -detail-).
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Main changes are in clothes:
16TH CENTURY-17TH CENTURY:
Consider the last post of Yakuza though, it might be more correct.
Note that these are daily clothes, in battle I am sure they wear more armor.
Late game: (1670-1700)
This image itself is probably based on 1780-1800.
But some modifications it can be fit to late game period.
(I will go to details later)
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To Cegorach
At this point (my movie project is set in "1860") my knowledge of Pre 1800 Circassian history is getting rusty, so probably Yakuza and Gedonist will be more helpful for historical research on Circassia.
As far as I understand there are some Georgian guys who are helping you for Georgian faction...
Anything I can still help with?... I can voice act if you are going to put native voices in the game.
So in short... for historical research... I feel abit useless. ~:mecry:
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I am Inal the Great btw (Lost my account) :no: :wall:
WITH URL S !
Okay first of all salute to Yakuza and Gedonist; they have done a great job!
Some of those images looks more like 1750 - 1850 but they are acceptable (with some modifications) for an earlier or much later period...
Anyway games period:
1570-1700
Weapons largely the same except Firearms.
Shashka is acceptable it was just introduced in late 1500s and was used until WW II...
The dagger (kindjal) goes back to Roman era.
Firearms...
well I guess in 1570 it was Matchlock muskets (firearms very rare in Caucasus during 1500s, nobility -Work- class maybe)
Maybe just include pistols?... But lets not forget Circassians fought like dragoons somewhat. North Caucasians used their horses body for cover (the horse actually were trained for this). They used Horse saddle or head to aim!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t05-ixJ8t3s
Pause at 2.15 to see a picture of this.
nothing political!!! just look at the frame at 02m.15s please
I can't find this anywhere else. :book:
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Arrows more common (arguably even in 1650-1700)
Long Flintlock muskets (with painted Caucasian designs -detail-).
-----
Main changes are in clothes:
16TH CENTURY-17TH CENTURY:
http://www.altair.co.uk/0021.jpg
Consider the last post of Yakuza though, it might be more correct.
Note that these are daily clothes, in battle I am sure they wear more armor.
Late game: (1670-1700)
https://img72.imageshack.us/img72/7808/untitled1zj.jpg
This image itself is probably based on 1780-1800.
But some modifications it can be fit to late game period.
(I will go to details later)
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To Cegorach
At this point (my movie project is set in "1860") my knowledge of Pre 1800 Circassian history is getting rusty, so probably Yakuza and Gedonist will be more helpful for historical research on Circassia.
As far as I understand there are some Georgian guys who are helping you for Georgian faction...
Anything I can still help with?... I can voice act if you are going to put native voices in the game.
So in short... for historical research... I feel abit useless. ~:mecry:
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I am Inal the Great btw (Lost my account) :no: :wall:
Gegorach,
Please see your Private Messages.
You have the answer in your inbox.
I refered to this unit roster - can't be too large for rather minor faction Circassia will be in the game, but 1-2 more justified proposals for units can be added.:2thumbsup:
ESPECIALLY this post with the unit list I am using
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showp...5&postcount=58
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I will show some images from the earlier edition of the mod - it is slightly off-topic so I will hide it as a spoiler
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
Dear cegorach.Quote:
Originally Posted by cegorach
1) Regular cavalry circassian - "Shuudze" (the mounted army
2) More Best cavalry subdivision - "Worq Shuudze" (the chivalrous mounted army). The Word "Abrek" meant in that timeses highwayman-alone, exorcised from its folk because of murder etc.
3) Do Not know the word "Tiley", but I have named young warrior by circassian word "Tume". So circassians named the illegal princely sons, who their own feat on field of the battle gained itself popularity and became the enjoying full rights prince. Or such warrior-alone possible to do themselves circassian prince
4) I have added else class of the princely bodyguards "Pshikey" (the princely railing). It consisted of usual peasants or freed servants, which were produced in this class for military services
5) Instead of "Lhxwqwel Zewako" offer the word "Zewako" (the warrior)
Circassian Prince (the Kabardian Prince, his name - Kushikupsh) :
https://img85.imageshack.us/img85/92...upshkz7.th.jpg
Circassians:
https://img85.imageshack.us/img85/7088/502by7.th.jpg
https://img81.imageshack.us/img81/1049/318vl9.th.jpg
https://img70.imageshack.us/img70/2485/317pk8.th.jpg
https://img81.imageshack.us/img81/4258/316um8.th.jpg
https://img292.imageshack.us/img292/6299/505xl8.th.jpg
https://img247.imageshack.us/img247/1941/501ua3.th.jpg
https://img247.imageshack.us/img247/1007/703sp7.th.jpg
https://img206.imageshack.us/img206/1245/210ug3.th.jpg