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Moderator edit: Some advice on installation - to install the patch, unzip it and then run the .exe. It will ask you for a directory - choose or make a temporary one, because this is for the extracting the patch installing (it is not asking for your M2TW directory). When you have extracted the installer, run the setup file and it will automatically locate your M2TW directory and update it.[/i]
And for comic relief while you wait for the download, read all 12 pages of the "Where is the £$%ing patch" thread on the official totalwarforum.
That's a good question. Right now it's showing as "not available yet" for me. :wall::wall::wall::wall:Quote:
Originally Posted by nokem
it works now. Installiiiing!
Yep, working for me too now. :)
please, please with cherry on top - could someone of you lucky ones please upload the patch to rapidshare or another file hosting site? because the link to gamershell says - file not available.
I would but I dont know how to
Downloading from their dutch multikabel server, less than a minute.:2thumbsup:
no problem there mate its available now! it wasnt when i checked it for hmm around the last 40 minutes :P downloading the english patch as we speak:
http://www.gamershell.com/download_16914.shtml
http://med2.sega-europe.com/MIITW_P_Update1_EN.exe
works for non-english versions ?
did a few custom battles, it seems the unit cohesion bug is fixed.
I tried 3 rank formation and 7 rank formation and not one rank stood back.:2thumbsup:
sorry look here for all non english versions
http://www.gamershell.com/search/ind...dieval+2&x=&y=
Well thank god I'm working from home today.
Now just at home, no more work for me.
me too, just need lusted s mod no0w.
Ethelred, SEE ME IN MY OFFICE FIRST THING MONDAY MORNING!.
Where are the patch notes? I would like to see what they've done :book:
They released them the other day. Check the post on the blog for the 13th Dec.Quote:
Originally Posted by chunkynut
http://www.totalwarblog.com
Top priority when I get home:laugh4:
For some of us working, would it be possible for someone to copy paste the content of the blog? As the darn security roles prohibit certain pages at work :inquisitive:
Thanks
The Sega Europe link for the english version is very slow - 14k/s. You might want to try another site unless it speeds up a bit.
WELL that was fun.
Install Patch. > Load. > Custom Battle. > Crash to Desktop.
New Game. > Crash to Desktop.
Lovely.
Im having crashes too and according to the total war board others are as well.
Oh dear....ditto here...lots of crashes...damn....
Not a happy bunny...what on earth is going on over at CA?
patchy goodness before a weekend without a computer. *silent sob*
OOooooohhh. Must remote desktop to my home PC and get it installed for when I get home :2thumbsup:
-edit- Excellent Download speed from C&VG - over 1Mb/s !!!
for those who have run the unpacker and are experiencing crashes, i have a suggestion:
READ THE UNPACKER README:
There are readmes for a reason.Quote:
- NOTE: Due to a timestamp check, the following unpacked files will
cause the game to crash and must be deleted before the game is
launched:
data\descr_geography_new.txt
data\descr_geography_new.db
Oh joy. Download just stopped at 42.5%! :oops: Getting timeouts from med2.sega-europe.com now. Think I'll wait until CA wake up.
Here you are:Quote:
Originally Posted by daffius
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Medieval 2:Total War Update 1
Major Fixes
========
-Fix crash in Deathtrack MP map with empty Team 3 slot
-Fixed Battle AI - armies not engaging enemies at close range.
-Fixed CTD when client attempts to join game that the host is ending.
-Fixed instances when A.I is passive on the campaign map and lets the user win on a campaign battle when stuck in-front of open gates.
-Fixed loop between the windows for 'Possible Connection Problems' and 'Really Quit?'
-Fixed AI: Calvary not charging a spearmen army in a Custom Battle.
-Fixed cavalry not attacking - instances when AI sieges a town with infantry and Calvary, if the infantry die and rout and the player still holds the city, the cavalry do not attack nor rout.
-Fixed passive Siege Attack AI
-Fixed Timurids crash (related to elephant artillery not having enough riders, CTD when trying to shoot)
-Fixed Siege Attack AI trying to attack the back of settlements.
-Fixed Passive attack AI
-Fixed Cavalry charge consistency and power. (Still raise and lower lances occasionally)
Added ModTool Unpacker
-Fixed Crash - Auto resolving a siege battle on Gaza and repeatedly Right - Clicking the settlement
-Fixed Merchant Resource value dropping after load/save
-Fixed CTD caused by Turks AI
-Fixed Cavalry not flanking spear walls
-Fixed AI not crossing river to attack (River Jordan)
-Reduced the effect of morale - enemy AI does not rout so easily
-Reduced the power of inquisitors
-Fixed 'move to point' crash
-MP Multinational support
-Fixed Cavalry sallying out and not attacking (bunching at corner of settlement)
Medium Level Fixes
=============
-Fix construction crash when converting settlements when buildings relating to initial settlement existed in construction queue.
-Fixed Settlement still showing as under siege even though sieging army had been defeated.
-Fixed repeating missions
-Fixed indecisive infantry / broken formation (when ordered to a location they would head in the wrong direction first)
-Fixed being able to open gates with siege towers or embed them in walls
-Fixed victory video not always appearing
-Diplomacy - AI no longer counters an open proposition with a gift.
-Fixed deployment lines being rendered incorrectly around ambient buildings
-Fixed Enemy units remain stationary with flags flashing when ladders are thrown off a destroyed wall in a siege.
-Fixed the carroccio standard not fitting through gates
-Fixed gunpowder units being stuck reforming
-Fixed trebuchets disappearing and reappearing when zooming
-Tweaked morale system
-Partially fixed units moving through settlement buildings.
-Units now check if destination is in a building or not.
-Enabled command-line switch to allow unlimited soldiers (removes message)
-Fixed MP player-names being lost on battle results screen if they quit the battle early
-Fixed the ability for a user to 'buff' their assassin experience by continually assassinating different captains
Other Fixes
========
-Fix difficulty level in MP (Affects Morale). Previously defaulting to Normal.
-Fix lobby tooltip that showed incorrect unit sizes.
-Fix Florins display during diplomacy
-Fix Money field looping into negative/positive value when removing / adding money
-Fix overlapping and incorrectly sized deployment zones
-Fixed cut-off graphics in civil disorder message
-Fixed unclear 'Start Diplomacy' button functionality
-Fixed MP Admit Defeat button functionality
-Fixed missions showing as expired even though they have been completed
-Fixed mouse-overs showing incorrect diplomatic information
-Fixed minor FE Historical Battle error (shield remaining highlighted)
-Fixed MP team chat - colours now match recipient and sender.
-Fixed minor audio issue - Audio: Campaign Map when an English Spy is ordered to join an English army he triggers two "Joins_Army" speeches.
-Fixed minor audio issue - Campaign Map when an English Merchant is ordered to disembark a boat, two "Movement_Disembark" speeches are triggered.
-Fixed Mine income
-Fixed MP ignore/ban toggle permanently banning player from chat
-Fixed - Making an offer gives a blank scroll on the Diplomacy Scroll, but removing the offer gives the player help text
-Fixed Mouse Cursor not updating when over certain parts of the UI.
-Fixed miscalculation of some naval unit movement points.
-Fixed units not leaving an army when ordered to abandon it.
-Fixed 'Possible Connection Problems' message not appearing if user alt-tabs
-Fixed On campaign map, castles appear under 'town' or 'city' title on UI
-Fixed Reinforcements box remains greyed when the user deselects 'Attempt a night battle'
-Fixed double speed on units that should only go at one speed.
-Fixed Stakes not appearing correctly in weather conditions
-Fixed non-functional help button on ransom scrolls
-Fixed intro movies playing at x3 speed in Historical battles
-Fixed transfer army functionality - When transferring men the transfer resets after viewing the description
-Fixed Gunpowder units running forward when given targets.
-Fixed clumping units when they are told to do a 180 degree turn
-Fixed stuck Camera issues
-Fixed Fleeing units rallying at breached walls or gates of settlements they are attacking when they should not
Thank you!!
w00t! Downloaded and installed in 2 mins.
Downloaded and installed, haven't toyed with the unpacker yet.
My brand spanking new impressions...
1. Unit cohesion seems to have improved markedly. Still could use some elbow grease, but it definitely feels better. Chasing down routers is still a bit lame, but at least they don't go all over kingdom come when doing so.
2. Infantry gunpowder reforming bug still exists. Jan. Musk. vs. Timurid Muskephants, my Jan's still get stuck in the reforming bit, BUT they will occasionally get a random shot off. Same with Jan. Musk. vs Scottish Noble Archers, they'll keep trying to reform instead of shooting and reloading.
3. As expected, the 2-hander bug still exists. My billmen won't swing a horses. Going to investigate the fix that Lusted and others came up with.
Overall not too bad for a first effort.
Good first impression here as well. Popped back home from work for a quick half hour burst on it just to see what it would be like. Attacked a 2/3 english stack with my full stack of milanese. I didn't get beaten but it was certainly a much action packed affair with the english having a good go at it. Suffered 300 casualties for 600 of theirs which I thought was ok considering I left my formation as the standard formation you start the battle with.
Pity the 2h bug isn't fixed yet but I'll go with putting Lusted's fix in place this weekend instead. At least the passive ai one is now sorted out ~:)
Seems like a good patch although some of my archers still think they're superman.
AI seems harder. It tried to flank my general (who was waiting on the east side of York to smash peasents as my spearment engaged them), with archers by moving out the north side. Turned out to be a bad move on the AI's part as the archers got mangled in a charge. Still better than anything it tried pre-patch.
Plus I suffered more losses in a bad rear charge against spearmen (didn't see em in with the peasants). Probably due to not killing as many in the initial charge :embarassed:
Shouldn't this be stickied?
thanks m8,downloaded in 2-4 mmiuntes :) :)!!
Ouch. Have to work for another 8 hours... But, from what I have read in other forums, it seems, the passive battle AI bug is still there and so is the seige bug. Any evidence among org-ers who already have their hands on the patch?
Which siege bug? Can you point to a thread? I can't confirm or deny either of those.Quote:
Originally Posted by Slaists
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...t=73576&page=3Quote:
Originally Posted by Whacker
see the post by Zhuge Liang
Is it save compatible?
And I created a mod with a 1 year per turn timescale, if I load the savegame, will it be patched?
Yuck, thanks for the link. I didn't play enough to notice any problems with the AI in a siege, but I thankfully never did experience the siege slowdown bug.Quote:
Originally Posted by Slaists
I also noticed this in that thread:
Taken at face value, yes it's my experience that gunpowder units fire when taking casualties. BUT, the true response to this is it's still broken, my guys still get stuck in the reforming bit and for the most part will not shoot back. They do occasionally shoot, but it's so infrequent and rare compared to how much they should be shooting back is that the real answer in my mind is it's still busted. :wall:Quote:
Originally Posted by TB666 http://www.twcenter.net/forums/image...s/viewpost.gif
Well I have tried a few custom battles so far I haven't had any problems with infantry charging, their formation was whole and the guys in the back didn't stop.
Also gunpowder units fire even when taking casulties.
So does the patch work with ongoing campaign saves? Or does it require starting over :furious3: (in which case I may finish this game before d/l the patch)?
The patch is save-compatable apparently.
Ooo, patch! Yay!
*looks at his desk and the huge pile of work*
*sobs*
It's weird that the TotalWarBlog.com entry specifically mentions the improved axemen and billmen. Yet it's not mentioned in the bug fixes nor, based on your experience, any more effective.Quote:
Originally Posted by Whacker
Hmmmph.
-Fizz
That because that is the planned fixes for the 2nd patch.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fizz
I think the issue here is that when the unit is under fire, they will sooner or later lose parts of their third rank and that messes up their rotation cycle because they cannot properly rotate a full rank anymore. Haven't tried with more than three ranks yet but the bug before was that they wouldn't fire anymore at all, now they just fire less often which seems normal considering that they are missing some men who would be able to fire in the gaps. The remaining musketeers simply won't reload faster so I guess they rotate until the entire frontline has loaded muskets and then fire a volley. If you don't like it, put them on skirmish which ends the rotation completely, they will now kneel to reload and then fire again, but not in volleys(you can imagine the men from the rear give their muskets to them men from the front and play reloaders, maybe it's even meant this way).Quote:
Originally Posted by Whacker
And the next patch'll be due in... February. So look for it March or April.
Oy vey...
the rendering is slow on the larger cities as well, so "auto-resolve" is still the only real way to fight the top 3 city sieges (city, min city, large city) or the top castles (castle, fortress, citadel).
interesting not, when you turn the camera away from the city and face out into just the hills, the lag all goes away. so, if you don't mind fighting blind.... ; )
Gruessen Sie Herr HusarQuote:
Originally Posted by Husar
I only tend to use gunpowder units in two ranks, as they don't suffer from depth/rank penalties and hence kill rates improve. There doesn't seem to be much sense to the way they operate when under fire anyway, if the status given in the mouseover and their animations are evidence and accurate. When functioning normally and not taking hits, they'll fire and rotate as intended. Once under fire, they'll seemingly randomly switch between reforming, reloading, and idle and very rarely get a shot off. Skirmish and fire at will don't seem to make any differences in this. /shrug
Now, now...be fair. This is pretty quick for them to release the first patch, in my opinion. The fact that they already acknowledge the need for a second and are planning to implement one is fantastic. Or at least a lot better than some companies do.Quote:
And the next patch'll be due in... February. So look for it March or April.
Oy vey...
Can someone, anyone confirm that they were able to d/l the new patch, install it, and successfully re-load an existing campaign game?
I'd like to rock these fixes, but not at the risk of having to start my campaign over.
Just think of it as gun jam... or dropping their primer to the ground in the heat of battle.... i'm sure the rate of fire was pretty damn horrible then and their guns unreliable--for pete sakes they didn't even have replaceable parts or standard issued ammos, so be creative in your imagination.Quote:
Originally Posted by Whacker
Careful... they might use THIS as the "fix" in the next patch: "just use your imagination, folks..."Quote:
Originally Posted by BeeSting
I can understand that for maybe one or two guys not firing each round, which would make some sense. However, the ENTIRE group of guys not doing so? For several rounds on end before they get a shot off?? People that have been training and drilling to know their firearms well and how to work them? Don't discount them just because there was no standardization, these men made war for a living and knew their weapons very well and how to use them as a cohesive unit, even in the heat of battle.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeeSting
:laugh4: :2thumbsup:Quote:
Careful... they might use THIS as the "fix" in the next patch: "just use your imagination, folks..."
The patch seems to work fine for my 1.0 saves. I've played my old campaign for several hours and fought a couple dozzon battles. No instances of passive AI or anything. However this is with the steam version so I dont know about normal DVD version.
However the problem im having is getting unlimited men on the battlefield to work.
I added the launch option string in steam "Set Launch Options" But all I get is a fatal error messege box. It isnt just the steam version either because I asked a friend of mine with the DVD version to test it. Same error.
Any ideas?
LOL... thanks,Quote:
Originally Posted by Dearmad
as it stands now though, with the game, the gunpowder units are too efficient for what they really were for the period.
I'm just stating the fact....Quote:
Originally Posted by Whacker
I have to retract this statement. They go all over the place still, spreading out in every direction instead of staying as a group. :wall::wall::wall::wall::wall::wall::wall::wall::wall::wall::wall::wall:Quote:
Originally Posted by Whacker
Still @ work and havent got the time to try the patch until I punch out...
I just wondering that is the passive AI still exists in most of the battle or the chances of having them is reduced??
To be honest, I dont really trust most ppl on the TWC (or .com) anymore (bunch of hypocritical whiners who dont critize constructively yet claim to do so + blow every negative bit way over proportion:thumbsdown: :thumbsdown: :thumbsdown: ).. I kinda need an really honest and no-BS assessment.
thanks in advance
You can also experiment with angling the camera inside the city....in certain directions the graphics slowdown goes away. Something inside the city apparently causes the slowdown, but I can't work out what.Quote:
Originally Posted by mor dan
I just fought several battles where i would have expected the passive AI bug to kick in. In one, my force was positioned on a hill, my missile troops were deployed at the front, with spearmen and heavy infantry behind, some horsies on the flanks. the enemy advanced towards me, their missile troops leading. i was able to cause heavy casualties before they got into range. we traded shots for a few volleys, but it was obvious that i had the upper hand (casualties of 10-1 in my favour) at which point the bulk of the enemy infantry advanced up the hill and engaged my main line. my missile troops still managed to play a part, whittling down his cavalry reserve somewhat, but the AI just pushed its troops forward.Quote:
Originally Posted by big_boss120
I observed the same in the next battle. similar situation, similar reaction from the AI, push its missile troops forward, try to cause damage with them, when that didn't work the main line advanced and engaged my up close
Hate to say this, but this patch is being murdered over at the Trivium/TWC.
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=73576
Already many have gone several dozen turns into the game. Lots of things have been discovered. Some of you have already seen or are now figuring it out. Oh, well. I have had some great battles. It seems sieges are not at all changes, armies just stand there. I would like to see my army run by the AI conduct a siege like the AI puts one over on me.
Had a battle against the French as the Brits. It lasted nearly 40 minutes. Many great things, both armies reacted to each other. Countered each other's moves. I usually let the AI run myarmies and I take over one unit, usually the mercs. I like using the merc-Xbowmen as commandos since they have swords, or even merc Pavise-Xbowmen. These were on saved games.
Siege bug seems to be the same whether new or old game. Still testing.
Was the passive siege AI on a new campaign after the patch, or a saved campaign game?Quote:
Originally Posted by Cesare diBorja
I know I've seen posts here indicating the patch works on saved campaigns, but I'm wondering if all the critical fixes are in place. Testing the new patch should probably be done on custom battles or new campaign, just to be sure.
Shader Model 2....Quote:
Originally Posted by GFX707
Sounds good enough to me....if that doesnt work we can always go back to mod the battle_ai behavior.Quote:
I just fought several battles where i would have expected the passive AI bug to kick in. In one, my force was positioned on a hill, my missile troops were deployed at the front, with spearmen and heavy infantry behind, some horsies on the flanks. the enemy advanced towards me, their missile troops leading. i was able to cause heavy casualties before they got into range. we traded shots for a few volleys, but it was obvious that i had the upper hand (casualties of 10-1 in my favour) at which point the bulk of the enemy infantry advanced up the hill and engaged my main line. my missile troops still managed to play a part, whittling down his cavalry reserve somewhat, but the AI just pushed its troops forward.
I observed the same in the next battle. similar situation, similar reaction from the AI, push its missile troops forward, try to cause damage with them, when that didn't work the main line advanced and engaged my up close
To be honest the ppl @ TWC are pretty much gunning for the patch & fans (NOT fanboys) when MTW2 is released. It's not much surprise to see so much hate there, but despite that, some ppl will probably do a good job and report the additional issues post-patch without any critic demeaners + @ss responses, but it's becoming harder to find that kind of ppl in TWC...Quote:
Hate to say this, but this patch is being murdered over at the Trivium/TWC.
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=73576
Already many have gone several dozen turns into the game. Lots of things have been discovered. Some of you have already seen or are now figuring it out. Oh, well. I have had some great battles. It seems sieges are not at all changes, armies just stand there. I would like to see my army run by the AI conduct a siege like the AI puts one over on me.
Past disappointments are hard to overcome. Now when everyone knows that it is at least another 2 months before we get another patch who is going to still be playing M2TW if this patch isn't any good?
Is there any other place I can download the patch? GamersHell doesn't seem to be too dial-up/download manager friendly.
Personally I think they need a severe grilling for not fixing the 2-handed bug. It basically breaks fighting battles any time either side has a bugged unit. Of all the things not to fix, how could they ignore the single worst bug in the game?
They could have at least just swapped in animations from working units and adjusted the unit's attack strengths to maintain balance.
Ive got the patch downloaded. Can somebody help walk me through the installation?:help:
Tactical battlefield AI much, much improved...:beam: ..:2thumbsup:
Sorry I found it:oops:
Somehow I dont get the siege bug, I've had a lot of sieges in citadels with over 3,000 units it did lag a little bit, but nothing major. But that was with 3k units. And I don't think my computer is that great either. 3.2ghz 2gb of ram so mid class geforce vid card I think its a 7600 12mb ram. I'm waiting for Lusted updated mod before I even install the patch.
But I'm just wondering if Lusted can fix most of the problems by himself CA should hire him. :smash:
Nah, it's not that - i've been running since day one with 'force dx9 shaders' on (that's shader model 3 fyi) and i still get it.Quote:
Shader Model 2....Quote:
You can also experiment with angling the camera inside the city....in certain directions the graphics slowdown goes away. Something inside the city apparently causes the slowdown, but I can't work out what.
The fixes look impressive, though i am annoyed that they missed the 2 handed weapon bug.
I just wish we didn't have such slow internet in australia :(
As an historian, I am quite disappointed. My personal sentiments and/or needs have not been met, but I am not crying a river. I will have fun the best way possible. Mayhap, modding this monstrocity will satisfy my ego. If I were 15-20, I may not have commented at all, satisfied in youthful exuberance. I am 35 and happy I did not have to pay for this game, that it was given to me. This bloody game needs a good modding. That's all.
(At Musashi)Gee, thanks, pal, for smutting a perfectly honest statement
I'm 29 and perfectly happy with it (Aside from the lame performance of certain two handed weapon wielding troops). The fact that you want it to be more "historical" doesn't make you more mature than other gamers, stop trying to imply such.
My thoughts on the patch are mixed...
Battle AI seems better...less prone to being passive..works most of the time on normal battles..(though still needs some tweaking)
Seige AI...um well sometimes works...and um sometimes it just doesnt! Aka passive...not fixed IMHO...
Cavalry better to control in general...though terrible pathfinding remains...mega problem inside a city. Still some issues of wandering off, and splitting up chasing units.
Deployment in castles/city...better..but still a bit quirky at time...not 100% fixed.
Some unit problems remain...reforming etc...
Campaign AI..still weak..though land invasions seem to happen now!
It is a bit of a let down about the two handed weapon problem, gonna be a long wait for the next patch..though it will likely fix many issues that remain.
To my impression the patch didn't fix the cavalry charge bug .... and they still scatter around and often men do not keep the formation and start single to single fights all around ....
I beg to differ, my charges are way more forgiving now. Pre-patch, conditions had to be EXACTLY right before I could pull off a decent charge. Now, conditions have to be good instead of perfect and I love the fact that running skirmishers also get impaled on my lances. In my freak Byzantium game, the Scottish Border Reivers and the Bodyguards totally massacred my spear line with some good charges while pre-patch, I could hold them off with un-upgraded Spear Militia. The patch has thought me that relatively thin spear lines don't stop a thundering cavalry charge. ~:)Quote:
Originally Posted by PROMETHEUS
I'm happy with the changes so far (I did exspect to have the two-handed bug fixed, but you can't have it all) and they are going to be further improved, so, go CA! ~:)
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=75206 :yes:Quote:
I'm waiting for Lusted updated mod before I even install the patch.
Well ive encountered the passive AI bug 3 times now while an enemy army sieges one of my cities in North Africa. :no:
Chasing routers is still crazy. The whole unit spreads out over a huge area.
2H weapons not fixed, gunpowder units not fixed. VERY disappointing.
Im still getting small armies of 3/4 units attacking my full stacked cities/castles.
Had some odd diplomacy situations where I gave very generous deals, and the AI would counter it with a worse deal for themselves! Very odd!
I still see archer units firing high into the air, wasting ammo
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AI on the whole do seem better, more aggressive. This is good!
Charges work well now, much easier to pull off.
Ive seen lots of nice naval invasions. :2thumbsup:
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On the whole its an OK patch. But for me, the game will not be how it should be until the passive AI is fixed, the 2H, and gunpowder units are fixed. This is a critical undersight, and im extremely disappointed that it wont be fixed until February.
:thumbsdown: