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I really enjoy a good historical movie so I decided to start a DVD collection, getting only the best. Since it is hard to find good ones and since I am usually not into movies much, I hope for your advice.
I have found that Gérard Depardieu has starred in truly awesome movies, so that's the ideal that I am looking for :yes:
So please, if you ever enjoyed a good historical movie, write it here!
Saving private Ryan it may not be really historical but it gives you an basic view of D-Day, plus a good story on the way.
Band of Brothers, an emotional story which is historical, and very good
Tuntematon Sotilas - About the Finnish continuation war. There are two versions though, I'm refering to the one by Rauni Mollberg from 1985. Might be hard to get hold of if you don't live in Scandinavia or Finland though. Speilberg took a lot of inspiration for Savin Private Ryan from this movie.
Dangerous Liasons - A fair while since I saw this movie, but from what I remember I could tell it's a good movie, although Keanu Reeves isn't exactly great.
Barry Lyndon - A must. Final.
Edit: Oh, and stay away from Ridley Scott's movies. Although they're good, they ain't very historical. Same goes for Troy and Alexander, except they are neiter good movies nor historical.
You know, I rather enjoyed The Alamo, though I don't know how historical it is. Rather clichéd, but extremely well-produced and with a good cast.
Battleground (1950), about troopers from the 101st Airborne at Bastogne during the Battle of the Bulge. A Walk in Sun (1945), about an American platoon making its way inland after the 1943 invasion of Italy.
Both classics that should be in any library.
Talvisota is one I really enjoyed.
The Longest Day.
Kelly's Heros is comedic, but not so historical.
If your into Polish history 'With Fire and Sword' is pretty awesome.
Gladiator? :P
If you want tp compare 2 different wars in the same country:
La 317 section (the French in Vietnam). I don't know if it exists in English
Platoon (The USA in Vietnam)
1 platoon in each movie...
Like I said: Ridley Scott = Good movies, terrible historical accuracyQuote:
Originally Posted by Cataphract_Of_The_City
The Battle Scenes are accurate. However, that lasts for 5 or 6 minutes.
Are you talking about Gladiator now? The scene in the beginning with burning swords, gallons and gallons of greek fire, goths/germanic tribespeople in 100% fur-clothes and otherwise very Hollywoodish fighting with armour that offers as much protection as cardboard boxes would?Quote:
Originally Posted by Marshal Murat
And the actual gladiator fights are a lot worse, with dual-wielding swords, completely inaccurate types of gladiators, silly-looking armour and some guy with hair like if he lived in London in 1977.
Nah, stay away from Hollywood.
I'd still recommend The Duellists. It's small enough in scale that the inaccuracies are irrelevant, but is visually gorgeous and atmospheric, has some great performances and the best fencing scenes ever shot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Innocentius
"Keep away from him; keep ahead of him; put your trust in Bonaparte".
Burning swords?
Don't remember that.
Greek Fire wouldn't be that outlandish considering it is ancient, but I thought it was lime or combustable material that was lit on fire and then tossed.
Are you saying that the director have an actual fight scene so that armor would be a benefit? Movies intent to portray reality, not BE reality.
Hmm, nice one. Loved the movie, a curious example of style over substance.Quote:
Originally Posted by MilesGregarius
Doesn't hurt to start with Joseph Conrad. Then add a largely Shakespearean-trained trained supporting cast, and put them all in hussar uniforms.Quote:
Originally Posted by Geoffrey S
The lorica segmentata and tight Roman formations looked good, but the Romans never loosed a volley of pila (javelins) to initiate their attack which was one of their most effective tactics. Kinda killed it for me right there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marshal Murat
There's a burning sword stuck in a tree at the end of the fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marshal Murat
There's a common misconception that greek fire was frequently used in ancient and medieval warfare, much thanks to Ridley Scott. I think he actually says it himself in some documentary about KoH, that he chose it because it looked cool, not because it was realistic.
Anyway, greek fire was far from frequently used, and very much restricted to naval battles.
I don't understand that last part, are you saying that in reality armour doesn't have any effect? Then just why would all armies in history bother to equip themselves as well as possible?
Here you have some polish war movies
Mr Wolodyjowski - polish-turkish war on Ukraine 1672
Flooding - polish-swedish war 1655-1660 (one of the greatest cav charges into movies ever)
Fire and Sword - polish-cossacks war on Ukraine 1648-1652
Teutonic Knights - magnificient battle of Tannenberg
Hubal - ww2, quite cruel.
Chanel - ww2, warsav rising 1944
Oh, and Der Untergang of course.
Deluge (Potop in Polish) is a very good book, movie just as good
With Fire and Sword(Ogniem e Mieczem is I try hard enough), 1990's very awesome video.
In reference to posts concerning Gladiator: I misread the post on armor.
Again, I thought that the pots were filled with lime or something, not greek fire.
A few at random:
Alexander Nevsky - gallant russki stuffs the evil teutonic knights
Midway and Tora,Tora, Tora - 2 good films about the Pacific in WW2
Sparticus - Kurt with his dimple leads the Romans a merry dance
Henry the fifth - the larry oliver one or the ken branagh one
Das Boat - the U boat film of all time - for maximum effect, watch while in the cupboard under the stairs wearing a thick sweater soaked in sea water
I could go on and on.... so I won't
You've gotta love all those national romanticised movies from the earlier half of the 20th century. Not accurate, but very entertaining:2thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by King Kurt
they are not really movies but the Sharpe Collection are very good feature length shows.....the latest one Sharpe's Challenge is very good as well.
based on the Bernard Cornwell's great series, it tells about the seringipatam war and the napoleonic wars
Very good books and feature length shows, try em out!
And of course Braveheart
Oh, gosh no!Quote:
Originally Posted by KrooK
Lawrence of Arabia
Some factual errors, but enough truth in the main character to carry the movie. And what a movie it is!
Napoleon
Made in France/Austria/Germany/Italy from their state televisions - France, ORF, RAI and ZDF
The best I ever saw. It has 4 parts x 90 minutes (or 120 not sure). I watched 3 times already in Croatian television, once in Slovenian, once in German ZDF and now in one Serbian private television (tomorrow is the third part, today was second). :2thumbsup:
Gerard Depardieu, Christian Clavier and John Malkovich as leading actors.
Some recent ones Ive enjoyed:
Der Untergang (Downfall) - an excellent Last Days in the Bunker movie about Hitler and co.
Letters from Iwo Jima - Eastwood's surprisingly awesome sequel to Flags of Our Fathers, which was good in its own right. This is possibly the first mainstream movie besides Tora Tora Tora to attempt to portray the Japanese as deeper than just banzai crazed automatons. Great picture.
Im liking the trend towards more axis oriented movies - as the motivations behind those soldiers are far more interesting to me than those of the allies which are so squeaky clean theyre almost cliche. Just my opinion of course.
The Lion in Winter--High Medieval Drama
The Thin Red Line--WW2 in the Pacific, feels like you're crawling through the grass with them
Black Hawk Down--modern asymmetrical urban combat
Ajax
Just bought a German war movie "Stalingrad" (1993) about a week ago. While not on the level of a "Saving Private Ryan", it was still pretty good and showed the perspective of average German soldiers, something alot of other WWII movies don't do. This movie can be likened to a German version of "Platoon", with a sadder ending :yes:
Someone made a movie of Shakespeare's "Titus Andronicus". I forgot who.
Anthony Hopkins plays the part of Titus.
- Spartacus (2004, TV)
- The Great Raid
- Attila the Hun
- Julius Caesar
- Gettysburg
- Alexander
- Imperium Augustus
- Imperium Nero
- The Fall of the Roman Empire
- The Lost Battalion
The one whit leather lorica segmentata?Quote:
Originally Posted by Roy1991
This isn't very historical either.Quote:
- Attila the Hun
Neither is this one...Quote:
Originally Posted by Roy1991
Well, it completely depends on what you define as historical.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kääpäkorven Konsuli
If a movie portrays historical events (nearly) correctly, then I'd say it quite historically accurate, despite wrong armor, weapons etc being shown.
Spartacus without Kirk Douglas? A blasphemy :laugh4:
The 2004 Spartacus "corrects" almost all the historical inaccuracies form the original Kirk Douglas film, with the notable exception of some of the weapons and armour used. I found it much more enjoyable than the original, especially for a made-for-TV movie.
With Martin Sheen as R.E. Lee *swoons* that movie introduced me to the civil war, as well as the fantastic book The Killer AnglesQuote:
Gettysburg
Has anyone seen the Rome series on HBO? Is it any good?
The ROME series is quite good - I've sprung for the 1st season on DVD for my collection. Not 100% accurate (it's entertainment!), but the historical "flavor" feels genuine - and with all the brutality, nudity, tension, etc., it keeps one's attention riveted to the screen. :laugh4:
Sounds good, I'm off to the store :2thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by Geezer57
A few more:
Zulu - So good that Brits can't properly celebrate Boxing Day without it!
Thirteen Days - Well done recreation of the Cuban Missile Crisis
Hoping it hasn't been mentioned before: Musa, a Korean flick around the time of the fall of the Yuan Dynasty and the advent of the Ming. Also called Musa the Warrior in some countries.
Gosh! The movie I remember most making me feel like I was in the time period was Lonesome Dove.
It is a fictional story but it will make you feel like 1870 something.
The Battle of Britain- Very good movie with excellent dog fighting sequences, the best that I have ever seen!
A Bridge Too Far- Long but well worth the watch, lots of cheeky British humor too.
Guadalcanal Diaries-Very good black&white film. History Channel's Real to Reel said it was very well made.
Pork Chop Hill-Black&White movie set near the end of the Korean War: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0053183/
Patton-'Nuff said
Ten to Chi to-Japanese samuri film with good battle scenes: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0099753/
A Great film about WWI is Alll Is Quiet On The Western Front.
Life of Brian
I'll second that one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tiberius
Has Master and Commander of the Far Side of the World been mentioned? My assumptions over it primarily is that it depicts naval warfare at that time period very well.. unless somebody is able to rebuke me to the utmost end over this claim... but honestly, it's a very good film to watch.
Two great filmsQuote:
Originally Posted by Warluster
also
Troy, Gladiator, Master and commander (NOT SURE ABOUT THAT ONE) and King Arthur are all good films
AYE! :yes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ring_Master\
Brilliant film, that. I watched it three times, my kids love it, my women love it (can you guess why?) and certain images will be with me forever and where ever I go. Like the 'Jonah' thing.. man, this movie is a killer.
Gods and Generals - about the first half of the American civil war, documents the both Bullruns and Fredericksburg, the people who got most of the focus was Stonewall Jackson, Robert Lee with a touch of the Major of the 10th Maine Infantry (I forgot the guy's name.) :wall:
Schindler's List - about a German man who tries to saves as many Jews as he could during WW2
Casualties of war - about a soldier during Vietnam, who's struggling with fact his squad raped and killed a Vietnamese girl. Not very accurate, but it gives you an idea what the GIs were doing over there :skull:
Ike, Count down to D-Day- Name says it all, life in Eisenhower's eyes in the days before D-Day. I'm not sure of its accuracy but it's a pretty good flick.
Good? Well, that's a matter of opinion. But they are definitely not historical.Quote:
Originally Posted by General Boreaus Brittanicus
To Kill A King- good roleplay by Rupert Everett
Mihai Viteazul-a Romanian masterpiece with Sergiu Nicolaescu
Shogun-still a fictional story, but nevertheless good
I liked Ran, a Japanese adaptation of King Lear.
Seven Samurai also good.
Troy is a terrible movie. It doesn't follow the Illiad or even accepted Greek myth. For the battles, sure to maybe. Historical accuracy? :stop:
God's and Generals-American Civil War movie about 1st Manassas, Fredricksburg, and Chancellorsville. Stonewall Jackson is the key person, with several other prominent ones (Lee, Hancock, Chamberlain)
Gettysburg-Another great one.
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Any good :indian_chief: ?
Anyone mention Braveheart?
It's only a little accurate but it's loads of fun.
Great film, indeed. To me Tim Roth performance of Cromwell was the best. It's pretty accurate movie, too, from my limited knowledge of that period in english history.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cronos Impera
One no one has mentioned so far that I liked was the recent film of the Alamo staring Billy Bob Thornton. It felt realistic to me and did not contradict anything I have read about the battle. Thornton was superb as the man trapped by his legend. And his violin serenade was awesome.
I liked Ride with the Devil about the dirty side of the ACW and the horrific raid on Lawrence. The acting was superb - especially the lead (best known for playing Spiderman) and his long haired nemesis.
For more contemporary, but reality-based, films I admired Blackhawk Down as an authentic albeit American perspective and Munich for a thought-provoking study of terrorism and counter-terrorism.
Hey WARDRUID,
Jff Daniels played Col Joshua Lawrence Chamberlain of the Maine regiment in both G&G and Gettys. It's kinda funny that he's more jwly in G&G, but in a way it makes sense as being in a war tends to make a fellow trim down.
IceWolf
Black Sheep Squadron A movie and a TV series, it was aired on the history channel for a while
EDIT: You can, can that, after looking it up that show was highly fictionalized. Guess because the history channel was airing it, it wouldnt be too bad.
They are definitely historically inaccurate! I might as well mention Monty Python and the Holy Grail for random portrayals of historical themes. Like the plague scene(you know "bring out your dead"), the one part with the democratic peasants, and uhh... maybe the witch scene.Quote:
Originally Posted by Innocentius
[QUOTE=Oaty]Black Sheep Squadron A movie and a TV series, it was aired on the history channel for a while[QUOTE]
Is this about Boyingtons black sheep (or Boyingtons bastards), a fighter squadron in the pacific during WWII. If it is I might look for it (if it's any good of course).