The Staked Longbow Army of Doom

Also know as The Elmohead Missile Army of Doom.
It has been used succesfully more then once, and it is hard to break. It's designed to counter armies that are Cavalry heavy ... ie. if you play no rules 1v1 and your opponent is Timurids, Mongols, Russia or Poland expect him to have loads of cav.

Now this army can easely be perfected to your own choice, one likes to take some cav with it, the other wants some good infantry units, but the main part of it is this:
Spam Longbowmen (ie. Longbowmen, Yeamen Archers and Retinue Longbowmen)

Place your Longbowmen in a circle on the battlefield and deploy stakes, make sure the stakes are adjected to eachother, leave no gaps.

Here's a replay of the succesfull use of an army of this kind

However note some things:
1. This army won't work in games that have rules. If your opponent has a normal amount of Infantry units he can easely walk through the stakes and attack you, you who have a penalty for units placed so closely on eachother.
2. This army won't work if your opponents has Musketeers, they will kill loads of men per volley, which isn't worth it.

In other words, only use it if you're sure that your opponent has loads of Cavalry.
Or use it in teamgames, but do consult your allies first, they might not like it when they have to take the deads while you get the kills ... and they will have to line up at your side.

One of my fun armies, though it's not very practical in real games. :) It's just fun to use and can hold its own if your teammates know how to support you. hehe

Aye, I'm working on an Aztec rush army now, still have to test it tho ... won't be very practical I think

If its a team game your allies just gunna get wtfbbq double teamed :P

(didnt download replay, but I assume its just like a RTW phalanx bow of old with stakes not phalanx, correct?)

Something like that.
But it works far better (as the stakes can't rout and be killed) ... if you do download it you'll see Flim getting desperate and driving 3 units of Knights into the stakes ~D

Besides you'll see that my team won ... as I told Starcy and Guy what I was going to do, Starcy formed at my side and Guy on an enormous hill on the other side. If I would be in the middle it might have gone better as it did.

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Originally Posted by Stig

Something like that. you'll see Flim getting desperate and driving 3 units of Knights into the stakes ~D
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lol, if there was only archers inside the steaks he could of walked the knights through, they don't die that way :beam:

Well inside the stakes I deployed 10 groups of longbowmen and 2 units of supporting units to storm out.
And I placed 3 Spearmen units outside it to support my army ... but they got slaughtered by the cav that later ran into my stakes.

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Originally Posted by ElmarkOFear

It's just fun to use and can hold its own if your teammates know how to support you. hehe

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Indeed, without support that alamo Stigglet built up would have been overrun with infantry pretty quickly. Plus, as mentioned above, the enemy could just simply bypass you.

Roflmao... Elite tried using a stakebox in the second game of our ccs match after they got rolled the first time... desperate i guess... vs the stakebox tho it was an heroic victory


morale of the story is steak boxes suck and is popular with noobies cus they can beat other noobies with it:laugh4:

lol, no they are pretty good ... you just have to hope that your opponent has Cav only, if he hasn't you're for it

I played the first game... the second game i had to leave for work but i watched the replay. SA took lots of cav that game... utterly pwnt the noob stakebox. Myself in none tournament matches have beaten stakeboxes atleast 6 or so times and have never lost to a stakebox...and i always go somewhat heavy in cav usually.

Wondering, how do you get your cav through the stakes, they will be killed the moment they hit them.

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Wondering, how do you get your cav through the stakes, they will be killed the moment they hit them.

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Cav can walk through them, just not run...

Our dear Pariya has always been a big talker, but he rarely can prove what he states in an online game. He still hasn't taken me up on my High era, low-florin, all Cav vs. my all peasant army. Hot air rises, so I guess its the best way to the top for him. :laugh4: Also, he doesn't actually read and/or understand most posts. He joined the Silent Assassins, who have some very good players, so he could ride their coattails to stardom.

We stated the Stake Circle of Doom, wouldn't work in normal team games, due to its immovability and weakness to foot units, though THAT doesn't make it any less fun to play (unless someone is STILL afraid of losing and won't try anything actually a bit more challenging). hehe You can't even get some to try Late/All era games, because they are afraid of the imbalances. Worse yet, you can't get some to play any other map besides Grassy Plains. :laugh4: They are lost if they see a few hills or trees on the map.

Seems we have all these peeps saying they can beat things easily, but I haven't seen a replay yet to support it. Must be veteran noobs, who have to rely on the same units, the same maps, the same florin levels, the same teammates, and the same "exploits". ~:cheers:

I must admit though, the old STW/MTW MP community did have something over the current: There were many players and clans, who weren't afraid to experiment and take the underused factions/units and try them out. At least until the the last patch, which pretty much was similar to the situation we have currently. All you began to see were the same cav/crossbow/sword armies, over and over again. If you really want to know, THAT more than anything was why people, who didn't play RTW, also didn't return to MTW1.

Since, as stated before, mods are very difficult to get the MP community to use in large numbers, the Samurai Wars mod wasn't able to preserve the MTW1 MP community. Plus, by the time it was completed, most had already left and were playing RTW or gave up on the series. If the original MTW1 had been officially patched to the Samurai Wars standards of balance, I am sure there would still be a very large number of players playing it every day. Maybe not the Samurai Wars mod, for the reasons stated earlier about mods, but vanilla MTW.

It was a great effort Puzz and gang. I wish it was possible to mod the current engine to reflect such balance issues, then we could attract some of you old farts back to the current community.

actually i think early and high era only are noob eras because noone wants to use any novel tactics. they just want to use the old vi traditional tactics.

there are plenty of ways to dope muskets and cavalry and good missile armies who dont use muskets so i fail to understand what imbalance means. ive beaten musket, horse archer armies, and cav armies without any thing close to the amount of firepower and shock they had. it just takes a little eccentric thinking.

the vi days are over. its time to embrace the new mtw2 and learn new tactics. and find a way to either use random maps or certian variable relief maps that are considered balanced in addition to grassy plains which is always going to favor highly mobile missile strong armies.

not too downplay the fun ive had in vi im just stating you have to embrace new tactics from a different game engine.

I have been setting some games up with 5K instead of 10K. The results have been very interesting. Ranging from the players reaction to it to the actual battlefield dynamitics.

First most players reaction has ranged from grudging acceptance to outright refusal to play anything that is not 10K. A couple have even be somewhat angry about the whole thing. I believe this just supports the comments made by Elmo in a previous post.

I have actually found the 5k armies rather entertaining. Especially when paired with a wooded or hilly map. I have found that you have to use alot more thought instead of just clicking. ((YOU have limited number of "good" units and thus you try to save them for just the right situation)) Teamwork is vastly more important, than in 10k games.

The reaction of most players after the game was positive. Common reply was "kinda weird but fun".

How interesting about the STake boxes. From my experience dealing with Cav is not that bad once you deal with the ridiculous charge bonus Cav gets. Thus if Cav has to "walk" thru the stake box, and there is a unit or two of good infantry to meet them while they are in the stakes. Sounds like interesting times for those sitting on the horses?

Just my uninformed opinion.

Elmark... maby you should play the game... or talk to those who have. You say you want replays??? I'm not wasting my time on you bro... you wanna see how us pro's beat the stakebox head over to the ccs forums and look for our round 1 replays.... or ask Elite for them. And its kind of hard to ride SA's coattails all this time when 2 of the last like 3 years i've been in SA i was leading it. What have you ever won besides my disrespect elmark?


Stupid responses get stupid responses in return. Am i supposed to fear this mighty Elmark who sits behind his computer and lingers around trying to look big by exagerating his accomplishments in MTW1 and STW. I was there for both games, your not so good:laugh4: Come round MTW2 sumtime and i'd be happy to show u round bud:laugh4: My town now:yes:

Ask barret:laugh4:

Yup, I always keep a nice cav and/or foot unit killer, within the circle or near enough to stop any attempt to get in. Normally, with concentrated arrow fire an approaching unit or two will route easily. The most effective way of taking out a circle is to hit it with many foot units at once. The best way is to ignore it, if you can and take it out last.

Though there are strategies being developed to solve that little problem too. hehe :)

Pariya, Elmo actually plays MTW2, and he introduced this formation.

I've heard of 3 people using it, Elmo obviously, T1 blitzed BearBottom using it, and I won with it. I can prove it with replays, you can't. You say you've already fought it 6 times, I haven't even seen it that often, playing that long isn't good for you. So who's the n00b now :laugh4:

@Barrett, if the cav walks through the stakes they can't charge, that means they don't do massive damage. And Longbowmen are damned fine in melee fighting ... cav isn't ... so that won't work.

Yes stig you are so elite:thumbsdown:

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Yes stig you are so elite:thumbsdown:

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lol no, Elmo says he loses all games, but I even lose to Elmo ~D

Off-topic but.... Stig my respect for staying calm :egypt: .... and no im not trying to be ironic

I remember when Pariya was still in his TW diapers. It appears he has now graduated to a binky and considers himself a grown up. Those who brag without cause, and who treat new players in the manner young Pariya does, deserve our pity. Please bear with him as he slowly grows into maturity, and possibly in a few years, he may actually contribute something to the community instead of perusing the forums looking for a victim of his amateurish trolling. :laugh4:

I don't believe I have ever bragged about winning, or about any other aspect of my time playing TW, but if you can show some proof of such claims, I would be glad to acknowledge my arrogance. I really hate to see you embarrassing yourself by making wild accusations, in a desperate attempt to have someone acknowledge your skill. You don't earn respect by winning. You earn it by offering something to the community other than baseless accusations and endless bragging.

falchia pariya and his roving band of minstrels, i remember it like it was yesterday.... :balloon2:

the staked army provides several different options, even in a team game. you can harass and it's easy to get folks to chase you. whoever takes it has to be ready to leave the comfort of the stakes and support in a hurry on a flank, if the enemy coordinates a double away from the missles...

keep the trigger down elmo im holdin the ammo belt for ya

Got any more o them flamin arrows? hehe :charge:

while you are greedily chasing elmo's routing units, his ally swoops in for the kill! :charge:

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Pariya, Elmo actually plays MTW2, and he introduced this formation.

I've heard of 3 people using it, Elmo obviously, T1 blitzed BearBottom using it, and I won with it. I can prove it with replays, you can't. You say you've already fought it 6 times, I haven't even seen it that often, playing that long isn't good for you. So who's the n00b now :laugh4:

@Barrett, if the cav walks through the stakes they can't charge, that means they don't do massive damage. And Longbowmen are damned fine in melee fighting ... cav isn't ... so that won't work.

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Possible to some degree but what is it that u are doing when u are engaging the archers in melee? Thats right... u are preventing them from actually firing anymore missles which is what the unit is primarily designed for, so the player in question using the stake box would at some point during the game have to rely on his longbowmens ability to fight hand to hand, something i personally couldnt trust :yes:
Even with all the cav spam that is going around, ppl still bring infantry to some degree whether it be cheap spears or swrdsmen...

the yeoman archers in the english army hold their own in melee. i'm not too sure of the standard longbows. but they're good to absorb a charge, melt back and let the yeo's move in...

plus you'd want to be shooting the approaching infantry to whittle them down before impact.

it's not a perfect set up, nor is it even standard, but that's what the elmohead armys are all about, breaking from the convention and having fun, maybe even getting a win... shhhhhhh about the win ;)

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i'm not too sure of the standard longbows.

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Slaughtered 2 groups of Dismounted Chivalric Knights with it ~D

I have used the stake army successfully myself, but I find it works best in a 2 vrs 2. Our variation is a bit different, as we use the stakes like an extra wall of inf. on your flanks.

Something like this.

Front

Stakes MY Army Allied Army Stakes
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\\\\\\\+======|========+///////Right Flank
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Rear

With this set up, you force any cav attack from front or rear. There was a few times my own cav got caught, hee hee so be carefull.:laugh4:

Sound like a good one yes, might even work better like that if you only bring 8 Longbowmen, and normal cav as a support

All cavs + 1 art.

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Originally Posted by Paolai

All cavs + 1 art.

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yeah what are you going to do with that, it's designed to take out cav, and the rules for normal games are No Art/Ele

Answering this from the other thread

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already answered also on the other topic. All cavs + 1 art if you like the circle. And, cavs that do not run do not die. YOu just have not to charge, click behind the units and walk (do not run). Try by yourself.

But all cavs + 1 art it is easier.

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No it won't work, Longbowmen pwn in melee combat, if you think it does work, how about giving me a replay of it?

You guys an uber elite all-stars... how can i be more like you

:idea2:

takes england
makes pike box
gets owned


Now im just like you:yes: :dizzy2:

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Originally Posted by Stig

@Barrett, if the cav walks through the stakes they can't charge, that means they don't do massive damage. And Longbowmen are damned fine in melee fighting ... cav isn't ... so that won't work.

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Heh he could walk them through, then double click like 50 metres ahead and theyl run, with charge bonus, through the archers, theyl come out other side due to stakes only pointing one way, repeat until done :inquisitive:

Yup. You almost have to keep a spear or pike unit or two to keep cav from walking into the circle and then charging out the other side. Even the lowly little peasant unit can keep them busy long enough to shoot the heck out of the cav unit, and possibly rout them before they can enter the circle. It's best to make sure you have a partner or two close by to help out with the charges on your circle.

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Originally Posted by Stig

Answering this from the other thread

No it won't work, Longbowmen pwn in melee combat, if you think it does work, how about giving me a replay of it?

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Do you think LB win H2H vs a cav? Do you really tested it?

http://img1.freeforumzone.it/allegat...99_1161902.zip


I did not charged this LB, I just walked till the contact then clicked on the LB. Guess what happened?



No, LB loose vs cavs in melee, vs all cavs. I am sorry. Are we playing with the same game?

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yeah what are you going to do with that, it's designed to take out cav, and the rules for normal games are No Art/Ele

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Correct me if I am wrong Stig, but you wrote "In a game with no rules" isnt it?

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However note some things:
1. This army won't work in games that have rules

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line the stakes with the welsh spears, they're cheap and can hold for a bit, and they get the shirtless bonus ;)

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Heh he could walk them through, then double click like 50 metres ahead and theyl run, with charge bonus, through the archers, theyl come out other side due to stakes only pointing one way, repeat until done

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Nope won't work, the Archers are right behind the stakes, they would already be engaged when Barrett is going to click his run button.

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Correct me if I am wrong Stig, but you wrote "In a game with no rules" isnt it?

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You know what I mean ... there are games with rules like:
max 4 archers

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Are we playing with the same game?

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Well when are you on?

I just LOVE the shirtless bonus! :)

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You know what I mean ... there are games with rules like:
max 4 archers
Well when are you on?

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No I never played with a 4 max archers. Archers do nothing, why I would like to give a limit to my opponent if he wants to have many.

Tomorrow evening if you want we can play some tests together.

guys look

if ur in a stake box u have to cramp all ur units togethor real tight and cant even have ur archers on loose..... even an opponent with half as many archers as u wud still win the archer war...not to mention missed fire will kill alot of ur other units as well cus there all so close... if u send a cav unit out of ur box to attack enemy archers it will get pwnt cus it wud have to walk back in thru the stakes... this means the enemy can do whatever he wants and go wherever he wants outside ur box... he has unlimited mobility.... the steakbox is nothing but a box of death and those who use it get pwnt and humiliated

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Tomorrow evening if you want we can play some tests together.

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lol he chooses one of those nights I'm never on

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even an opponent with half as many archers as u wud still win the archer war

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That's what we said, it's not a competitive army, it's fun to use, annoying for the opponent, and will only work vs cav

you could almost do the same thing by using flemish pikes if the horse bypass bug wasnt there. form an infantry square with peasants on the corners to stop those bugged wedge charges . but as i said they would just have to tell their horses to attack the archers and they would just roll off of the pikes.

one thing that would be interesting is if they allowed spread formation with phalanx like i could get to work in rome with pikes and hoplites. it would aid enmeshing missile troops within their formations.

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guys look

if ur in a stake box u have to cramp all ur units togethor real tight and cant even have ur archers on loose..... even an opponent with half as many archers as u wud still win the archer war...not to mention missed fire will kill alot of ur other units as well cus there all so close... if u send a cav unit out of ur box to attack enemy archers it will get pwnt cus it wud have to walk back in thru the stakes... this means the enemy can do whatever he wants and go wherever he wants outside ur box... he has unlimited mobility.... the steakbox is nothing but a box of death and those who use it get pwnt and humiliated

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The other night with Gawain we ran into a stake box, it was virtually impenitrable no way to get through it. Why you ask? this box had one taking english and he took nothing but Yeoman archer and Longbow, will the one on left took flemish pikes and dismounted french nobles and on the right a bunch of hgihland archers and pikes.

what they did was the staked the box no entrance whatsoever from the front sides or back and then they put the pikes right behind the stakes and with 20 units of long rang archers behind them, you would be shot to death by the time you got there, and then you would be mangled to death by the pikes.

The only possible way to defeat this would be if you knew it was coming. Anyway me and gaw and our ally well we pretty much said screw it, charged to our death and just :no:

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Elmo obviously, T1 blitzed BearBottom using it, and I won with it

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Because blitzing bear bottom is so TERRIBLY HARD. lol. He has to be among one of the WORST clanned players in this game i'm afraid, and this news just proves it.

The fact is stake boxes only work against {censored}, most of you guys ARE {censored} so it will work fine against other {censored}. However against anyone who isnt an {censored}, you will get crushed. I played in the CCS vs Elite and they tried a stake box in game two, it was a heroic victory, and they are good players, the tactic is just terrible it is a simple as that. Even if I took all cav, I guarantee I could roll you right off the map. Longbows CAN NOT FIGHT in melee, not even the yeoman, they will all get decimated by cav, even when it is forced to walk through and pretty much any inf in the game. And, providing you are playing a reasonable amount of florins, 6-10 of them which you will require for your box costs ALOT of money. Leaving you with what? Some Hobilars and Levy spearmen to make up the rest of your army?

It {censored} so bad for a few reasons... One as I said before was that longbows which make up half your army cant fight for shit in melee, and two because you will usually have gaps in the corners (the only way to avoid gaps is to take even more longbowman, and that means you are even more likely to lose). Even if you walk the cav through the stakes without running them, they will own the longbows in melee without even a charge, and its easy to squeeze cav through the gaps in the corners as well. Not to mention the fact that if they have inf it will be most likely better than yours because england has terrible inf and you spent all your money on a stupid box.

I've tried it, we did in house clan 3v3's and I tried it many times in many different ways and every time against competant players it {censored}. Also when the game was first out I championed Late/All era games, especially All period as being more fun and having more variety, so dont try and slap me with the "Omg you are so un-imaginative" tag.

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Because blitzing bear bottom is so TERRIBLY HARD. lol. He has to be among one of the WORST clanned players in this game i'm afraid. And Im sure the others who lost to it where just as noob.

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Well I can't help that the only good players come from the -Silent- clan ... how about sharing some of your uber-wisdom with us so we will feel less mortal too.

BTW when are you on? You can try to beat my stakebox using all cav after Pariya had a go ~D

Uh....right....cus i played u before:thumbsdown:

Everytime you even mention the word stakebox in any challenging or competative way your just embarassing urself.

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Well I can't help that the only good players come from the -Silent- clan ... how about sharing some of your uber-wisdom with us so we will feel less mortal too.

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Oh yea that goes without saying doesnt it? lol

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Because blitzing bear bottom is so TERRIBLY HARD. lol. He has to be among one of the WORST clanned players in this game i'm afraid, and this news just proves it. And Im sure the others who lost to it where just as noob.

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A Silent attacking bottom surprise surprise. Lets see SA hates Bottom and Vice Verse sooooo in essence Silent think bottom is terrible, though i would go so far to say you are in the minority.

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Everytime you even mention the word stakebox in any challenging or competative way your just embarassing urself.

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Stakebox *Clap Clap* Stakebox *Clap Clap*

Also Pariya i would feel your comment is in the minority.

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Also Pariya i would feel your comment is in the minority.

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No it isn't as those -Silent- guys count as 10 ~D

seriously tho, if you guys hate other clans and think you're so good why not start a clanwar on your own forum, this is getting annoying

I'm trying to get 3 other players to try a variation of this army. I guarantee you have never seen this in a 4v4. Now I have to convince 3 others to lose with me! :laugh4:

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I'm trying to get 3 other players to try a variation of this army. I guarantee you have never seen this in a 4v4. Now I have to convince 3 others to lose with me!

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Raises hand.:laugh4:

oh pick me pick me

SA "changing their ways" did give me a gd giggle for how much its worth xD

i remember bears from old days, good people :shakehands:

i hate to get in this mix but silent has a guy ,who i wont name guilded. i was a maji for like 3 days in rtw and i didnt like his attitude so i left, he drew (private parts) on my avatar pic and did bad things to my sig on guild boards and said all kinds of nasty things about me in lobby :thumbsdown:

it took me pwning his face like 3 times to just get him to stop, this was after i had played rtw a week, against a "good" player :inquisitive:

:listen: people in glass houses shouldnt throw stones

i now go back to having no part in this feud :creep:

We have a thread in SA forums loughing at you {censored}... half of SA is saying don't help them out and let the {censored} think stakeboxes are good tactics...{censored} im hoping yall think its good enuff that u'll take it in a tourny against us like Elite did..... and get rolled...like Elite did.

You guys are so l33t:yes:


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hmm i think your missing the point of the army, its more about a quirky fun novelty...which like anything can work sometimes

i'm suprised mods let u guys come here and start drama, the org is usually so peaceful ~:grouphug:


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I'm not saying this could not work but I prefer mobility.

Aoner... admit it. You think there noobs as well.:laugh4:

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We have a thread in SA forums loughing at you morons... half of SA is saying don't help them out and let the noobs think stakeboxes are good tactics...shit im hoping yall think its good enuff that u'll take it in a tourny against us like Elite did..... and get rolled...like Elite did.

You guys are so l33t:yes:


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Congratulations on that successful and informative post of letting us know that at SA forum, which i doubt many here visit, that there is a post about all of us being noobs and being an inferior group of players who like to have fun instead of devoting our time to perfecting ways on how to call people noobs and do nothing but play for skill. Skill is an added bonus if you can play with skill all the more to you :juggle2:

And to you shields... what a nice way of saying you like to have mountain maps and no rules in your tournies. CWC is really going places as of late:dizzy2:

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Well I can't help that the only good players come from the -Silent- clan

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That is the only sense uve spoken in this thread dude :juggle2:

But u guys arent seriouse about the stake box tactic are ya? I can only assume its somethin u would do for fun, not 2 try and beat a half competant player, cause if it is, then its back 2 the drawin board folks :2thumbsup:

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Aoner... admit it. You think there noobs as well.

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Atm I see only one noob.

This topic is about ''The Staked Longbow Army of Doom'' and people having good time. I don't see anyone interested in trashing.

This tactic will now and forever be referred to as the "Noob Box". :laugh4:

Yellow Melon says so! https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=78597 Just change "Pikes" to "Pikes & Stakes".

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Plus it's much shorter to type in and just "sounds" more fun. :yes:

I'm gonna work on the Noob Triangle next. Aonar, Shields and Stig: You guys get to play victim with me. :)

hmm people from a guild i havnt ever heard of before i went online m2tw a week ago and fireblade (see post 59) calling old school classy players like bears and others newbs :stop:

where are the usually zealot mods to put the kibosh on this :captain:

why i come here and not tw.com forums :wall:

not many good threads in the mp forum, dont need a one hijacked :inquisitive:

oh and i tried this today, but i ended up having to move my position due to the far right guy not moving (i was on left, prolly not the best position to attempt this) so it was to no avail, but i had fun making the sky black with arrows... maybe next time

dang those longbows are expensive ~:doh:

save it for the ring bubs, save for the ring.

Subutai: Use fire arrows. It looks like a fireworks display! hehe

Ye you do it for fun but you talk like its a valiable and workable tactic. Alot of new players visit here... your essencialy dumbing down the population.:dizzy2: This sections got like 6 threads and half of them about noob stake boxes.:dizzy2:

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hmm people from a guild i havnt ever heard of before i went online m2tw a week ago and fireblade (see post 59) calling old school classy players like bears and others newbs :stop:

where are the usually zealot mods to put the kibosh on this :captain:

why i come here and not tw.com forums :wall:

not many good threads in the mp forum, dont need a one hijacked :inquisitive:

oh and i tried this today, but i ended up having to move my position due to the far right guy not moving (i was on left, prolly not the best position to attempt this) so it was to no avail, but i had fun making the sky black with arrows... maybe next time

dang those longbows are expensive ~:doh:

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Yer chill out buddy...u'll bust a vien.

Its only my opinion that i really dont rate bears as gd playas, im sure he feels the same about me

Stake Box For The Win WOOOT :egypt:

i was going to elmo, but it was a 3 vs 3 and i didnt want to explode the game with like 10 units of archers making clouds of fire :fainting:

i also doubt, as some said any newb is gonna come here and make it his mission to make the stake army work, after he gets pwned he will go back to aping whatever he saw someone else do that worked, its just for fun, i remember the mighty amp beating me down like a chump with his lines of byz inf and like 8 naptha, if your good you can make anything work :idea2:

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Aonar, Shields and Stig: You guys get to play victim with me.:)

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Time might be a little bit of a problem. +1 GMT here and you are east cost. Sent me pm or email me.

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i remember the mighty amp beating me down like a chump with his lines of byz inf and like 8 naptha, if your good you can make anything work

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:sweatdrop:
Does he still log to MTW 2 lobby or he is waiting for 2nd patch?

Did you ever run into MasterPolar who then became UglyPolar? He was the guy who patented the cav swipe and started a whole big mess! hehe He had a Byz/Naptha army and it was almost impossible to get to his Naptha before they routed your army. I never could get the nag of naptha. Ended up killing more of my men than the enemy! :laugh4:

Aonar: I haven't seen AMP around since the first week after I bought the game. He was still the same ole Amp though. Kept his army together and lost maybe one unit's worth of men. :) The problem is once he figures out the mechanics he rarely loses and gets bored with the game. I've never had the problem. :)

I wish I've never read this whole topic. It got everything I don't want to find in a MP environement.
Lack of teamplay consideration. Lack of respect for opponent. The whole second page made me dumber. And that's an achievement.

Louis,

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Originally Posted by }{Huscarls}{Barrett|L|

SA "changing their ways" did give me a gd giggle for how much its worth xD

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Tbh barret, all i've seen you do on multiple forums is whine about us. So have you got a grudge or something? Spit it out son.


Edit: Tbh i really don't know why the rest of my clan mates think its good to tell you that the box is shit, i was all for letting you talk about it and hell use it against us all you wish, if you will play us that is. But it is funny how alot of you suddenly come out with old storys about an SA you won't name or some such shit. The fact that none of you can argue about the finer points of the tactics, but just say blah blah blah your all such bastards leave us to our fun shows you how stupid you are. Meh i can't even be bothered, have fun with your we've been playing for so long we're awesome threads. Laters.

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Originally Posted by Zeph

Tbh barret, all i've seen you do on multiple forums is whine about us. So have you got a grudge or something? Spit it out son.


Edit: Tbh i really don't know why the rest of my clan mates think its good to tell you that the box is shit, i was all for letting you talk about it and hell use it against us all you wish, if you will play us that is. But it is funny how alot of you suddenly come out with old storys about an SA you won't name or some such shit. The fact that none of you can argue about the finer points of the tactics, but just say blah blah blah your all such bastards leave us to our fun shows you how stupid you are. Meh i can't even be bothered, have fun with your we've been playing for so long we're awesome threads. Laters.

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Im not whining about sa in general zeph, im just pointing out the fact that if u guys wanted to change your image *something which i admired about demok a lot and hoped he would help push forward* then this is not the way to do it... Its a shame that u are struggling to carry it through :inquisitive:
I like many of the sa, the ones that i dnt i either dnt know well enough or it is purely because of reasoning that i cannot explain ie. they are the ones with an issue *if there is one* not me :juggle2: The tw world does not revolve around sa.
The reason why a serious multiplayer forum is disregarded in places like the .org is because of things like what u guys have been doing, flaming. Its a shame really because u know for example that i do not see things as stake boxes as "valid tactics" yet i dont boohoo ppl for using it, if they enjoy using such things then i have no reason to bash them and say "u stupid n00b". Instead id rather put forward my point of view and leave it at that. I actually enjoy reading what makes stigs and elmos games all the more fun lol.
Mayb if u just respected their decisions a lil more in how they wanted to play the game we could all be in a happier state of mind and ppl like louis will not be dissapointed when reading threads in the mp forum :beam:

Just asking, who won the awards for best clan and best player in the HoF last years? ~D
RTK, Barrett wasn't it, I don't see anything starting with SA