Custom Battle Roster? (Includes instructions for multiplayer battles)

Does anyone else have problems with the custom battle rosters. They seem to be leaving out alot of units. For example for the Pahlava they are missing almost all of their calvary.

We will have a MP/custom battle-compatible EDU in the near future, hopefully, and it should alleviate all problems.

Thanks

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Originally Posted by khelvan

We will have a MP/custom battle-compatible EDU in the near future, hopefully, and it should alleviate all problems.

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I made one. It should have been including with .81.

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Originally Posted by tk-421

I made one. It should have been including with .81.

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We'll probably issue a hotfix in the near future (to formally solve the Lusotanna Bug and anything else that surfaces as a problem), and we can probably include your Custom EDU in that release.

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Originally Posted by khelvan

We will have a MP/custom battle-compatible EDU in the near future, hopefully, and it should alleviate all problems.

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Why?

It is already included. Haven't tested/used it yet, tough. But it is there.

Aren't most of them mixed in with all the merc cavalry?

ah i dont understand nothing of EDU files etc. but it should be fine if when i select a custom battle, i can see only the factionspecific units.
regarding the pahlava, i can see all the cavalry in their roster, only mixed up with mercs and regional units. what a pity the azad asavaran have completely changed their skin, now they look as zradha pahlavans, only their head and mantle has remained. They had a very nice body look before... best skin for azats was 0.74, but i cant debate on historical accuracy honestely.

The included edu for mp custom battle seems to work fine, except for that no/some units have no slave ownership resulting in an errormessage when closing the game. (something about no ownership for cidainh bodyguards for brigantes in descr_rebel_factions.txt). But thats not really a problem.

When I select custom battle I see very few faction specific units especially when it comes to calvary, no cataphracts whatsoever.

They are there, I can see them for all 5 factions that get them.

i think the problem is that the custom battle unit roster is too chaotic. it includes every recruitable unit to the faction. what most people want, including me, is that limit the roster to faction-specific units.

Therefore you have to swap the edu's.

sorry to be paranoid, but can you elaborate on that?? i don't really get it.

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Sorry, but if you don't look at the presents you get then...:
...EB\mp custom game edu

Now, don't forget to make back ups of your campaign EDU.

And to round this post off: have fun. :balloon3:

ok im really sorry if i seem like a noob but what do i do??

you take one of the two files you see in themap posted above,rename it to export_describe_unit.txt and paste it in the EB/data map. (yes to overwrite). If you want to custom. Replace it again with the singlplayer edu, for campaigning.

so if i only want the faction-specific units for custom battle what do i do??

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Originally Posted by Grand Lord of Poop~

so if i only want the faction-specific units for custom battle what do i do??

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See the post above yours.

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Originally Posted by Moros

you take one of the two files you see in themap posted above,rename it to export_describe_unit.txt and paste it in the EB/data map. (yes to overwrite). If you want to custom. Replace it again with the singlplayer edu, for campaigning.

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The bit in bold is wrong: should be export_descr_unit.txt And the overwrite bit is exactly why you should back up your original EDU.

There's already a backup included in the release. It's in the 'sp game edu backup' folder.

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Originally Posted by Edwardvs Primvs

When I select custom battle I see very few faction specific units especially when it comes to calvary, no cataphracts whatsoever.

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There's a down button if there's alto of untis... you need to scroll around to find them.

The problems already been solved. Just use the file labeled for custom battles and voila.

Also if you want to play multiplayer. YOu might need to share the same map.rwm
it's in EB/data/world/maps/base Make sure you make a backup of your old one. If you want to play campaign again, you need to swap them again.

I get this after replacing the export_descr_unit.txt with either of the mp versions:

"Script error in EB/data/export_descr_unit.txt, at line 1349, column 23.
Could not find soldier battle model for unit type 'Arabian infantry redsea axemen'."

...and a ctd. This only happens with my brother's computer, and comes when loading the menu. With mine it works like a charm (except for the closing error message).

Also what's the difference between the _custommp.txt and _mpcustom.txt?

Edit 5: I've made a .bat that swaps the EDUs as needed and can start the game automatically.

It currently lets you choose between 6 options:
configure EB for campaign
configure EB for campaign and start EB
configure EB for custom battles or multiplayer
configure EB for custom battles or multiplayer and start EB
exit and start EB
exit without starting EB

Some caveats:

• EB 0.81a hotfix changes the "\EB\Data\export_descr_unit.txt" file but does not update the custommp or backup EDUs so don't use this with 0.81a until they are updated
• It requires to be put in the "installpath\EB\" directory.
• Because DOS doesn't like spaces in directory names (and/or I just don't know how to make a .bat to bypass the issue):
  You must rename the folders "\mp custom game edu\" and "\sp game edu backup\"
  to "\mp_custom_game_edu\" and "\sp_game_edu_backup\"
  
• There are 2 custom/mp text files in the relevant directory, I'm not sure which is supposed to be used?:
  export_descr_unit_custommp.txt 362kb
  export_descr_unit_mpcustom.txt 361kb
  This code uses the export_descr_unit_custommp.txt but its an easy fix if it should be the other.
• If someone could provide example files, I could alter it to change the menus so you can't accidentally load your campaign & break it because you used the custom battle/mp EDU...

You can change your icon to point to the .bat instead of the RomeTW.exe if you don't want to browse to the folder all the time.

So to the code:

Code:

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@echo off
rem -EDU swapper MK1.6 by Hoom 4/3/07
rem -intended for use on Windows XP, not sure if it works on other windows versions
rem -feel free to use and alter as needed, its a very basic .bat file...
rem -Note: this file presumes it is placed in the \EB directory!

rem -menu
:menu

rem -options
echo.
echo =================EDU swapper=================
echo 1 to configure EB for campaign
echo 2 to configure EB for campaign and start EB
echo 3 to configure EB for custom battles or multiplayer
echo 4 to configure EB for custom battles or multiplayer and start EB
echo 5 to exit and start EB
echo 6 to exit without starting EB
echo.

rem -the choice code
set choice=
set /p choice=choose an option:
rem if not '%choice%'=='' set choice=%choice:~0,1%
if '%choice%'=='1' goto campaign
if '%choice%'=='2' goto campaignstart
if '%choice%'=='3' goto custommp
if '%choice%'=='4' goto custommpstart
if '%choice%'=='5' goto endstart
if '%choice%'=='6' goto end
echo '%choice%' is not valid, please try again
echo choose a number 1 to 6:
goto menu

rem -set for campaign EDU
:campaign
cls
echo.
echo You chose to configure EB for campaign
echo.
@echo on
copy .\sp_game_edu_backup\export_descr_unit.txt .\Data\export_descr_unit.txt


@echo off
echo.
echo EB is now configured for campaign
goto menu

rem -set for campaign EDU & start EB
:campaignstart
cls
echo You chose to configure EB for campaign then start EB
echo.
@echo on
copy .\sp_game_edu_backup\export_descr_unit.txt .\Data\export_descr_unit.txt


@echo off
goto endstart

rem -set for custommp EDU
:custommp
cls
echo.
echo You chose to configure EB for custom battles or multiplayer
echo.
@echo on
copy .\mp_custom_game_edu\export_descr_unit_custommp.txt .\Data\export_descr_unit.txt


@echo off
echo.
echo EB is now configured for custom battle and multiplayer
goto menu

rem -set for custommp EDU & start EB
:custommpstart
cls
echo You chose to configure EB for campaign then start EB
echo.
@echo on
copy .\mp_custom_game_edu\export_descr_unit_custommp.txt .\Data\export_descr_unit.txt


@echo off
goto endstart

rem -endstart
:endstart
cls
echo.
echo Now starting EB
rem -start EB
cd..
start .\RomeTW.exe -mod:eb -nm -show_err
exit

rem -end without starting EB
:end
cls
echo.
echo You chose to exit without starting EB
pause
exit

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Originally Posted by Thaatu

I get this after replacing the export_descr_unit.txt with either of the mp versions:

"Script error in EB/data/export_descr_unit.txt, at line 1349, column 23.
Could not find soldier battle model for unit type 'Arabian infantry redsea axemen'."

...and a ctd. This only happens with my brother's computer, and comes when loading the menu. With mine it works like a charm (except for the closing error message).

Also what's the difference between the _custommp.txt and _mpcustom.txt?

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one of the two computers has a bad install, I guess.

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Originally Posted by Moros

one of the two computers has a bad install, I guess.

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Yeah, the other one had it bad. But still can't get the game data to match... Could it have something to do with preferences?

try exchanging a map.rwm from the EB/data/world/maps/base folder. It normally should work then. Next patch should include a map.rwm and the problem should be solved.

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Originally Posted by Grand Lord of Poop~

i think the problem is that the custom battle unit roster is too chaotic. it includes every recruitable unit to the faction. what most people want, including me, is that limit the roster to faction-specific units.

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This would be GREAT, Incredible. I have a very hard time organizing Custom Battles because of this. Please EB team, if there is something I could see done is this. If you have the time and you do this, I would be really grateful.

BTW, great mod guys.

I'm not a modder, but I know that it isn't possible. I remember there is a trait which can exclude a unit from custom battles, but giving it to one unite would delete them from the custom battle roster of all others, even those who have them as factional troops.

If you use the MP/Custom EDU, you only have faction specific units with perhaps a few regionals. (for example samnite swordsmen for the Romani or something.)

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Originally Posted by Basileus Seleukeia

I'm not a modder, but I know that it isn't possible. I remember there is a trait which can exclude a unit from custom battles, but giving it to one unite would delete them from the custom battle roster of all others, even those who have them as factional troops.

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AFIAK: the attribute: no_custom does just that. But it's far better to use the MP/SP backup files. :yes: