Stock Roles and rules.
no PM's to townies.
12 people needed.
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Stock Roles and rules.
no PM's to townies.
12 people needed.
/in
oh whatever
in!
Count me in!
I'm in
:soapbox:
Same as Ichigo
and:
Vote: Sasaki
/in
in I guess
Bah I'm in.
In... I think there is still space.
In if there is space...
I think that's 12!
:soapbox:Quote:
Originally Posted by CountArach
Roles going out now
Roles Out.
Day 1 Now.
Alive:
Ichigo
Sasaki
sapi
Warluster
Warmaster Horus
Stig
CountArach
greaterkhaan
Caius
Killfr3nzy
Xdeathfire
BZK
Lynched:
Killed:
Wogged:
You really like that smiley, dont youQuote:
Originally Posted by Ichigo
Vote:ByzantineKnight
Do you want me to say something?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
No.
Then why did you vote me? Are you scum?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
Do you want me to say something?
And so it begins.....Vote:Stig for lurking. ;p
Note: ^An actual vote; talk and you're Unvoted; s'not like we have a lot to go on right now anyway.
No, i'm just trying to talk :laugh4:Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
Vote: Sasaki
Because I can :grin2:
So you vote me first, and then you say that I have to talk even tho we have nothing to talk about?Quote:
Originally Posted by Killfr3nzy
I know something to talk about, you maybe, because your reason for voting me is even worse then Sasaki's reason to vote BK or Sapi's reason to vote Sasaki
He did unvote at 11h46.
No, only if I would talk ... so his vote is worth nothing anyway, and he still makes it, why bother in that case. Just do like this if you don't want to vote anyone:
Vote: Abstain
or:
Vote: No lynch
Or, you could vote someone without votes, so you're promoting discussion without bandwagoning. Granted, there isn't anything to discuss, but it did get you talking right?
Neways, to my end of the deal; Unvote:Stig.
No as I didn't say anything that can be of use ... apart from the fact that you made yourself suspicious to meQuote:
but it did get you talking right?
No, but it does perhaps mean that later on my/your posts can be analysed (Note to Self: Ninja Holmes from Kommo) to try and see if we're guilty.
'Sides, it's the first voting round and there hasn't even beena murder to try and get inspiration from. Imo, at any rate.
Note to thread:
Abstains are counted as No lynches
and
Ninja is Killfr3nzy's language means steal.
how many no lynch's till a WoG?
Vote: Ichigo, because he hasn't voted Sasaki as first
NOW THAT IS SUSPICIOUS
WoG will be when i feel like it, either in rounds or days. It depends on my mood.
Vote: No Vote. We simply don't have anything good to go on yet, why lynch an innocent towny?
Vote: No lynch.
Greaterkhaan's right. Why kill someone who would be able to help us? However, in the argument of lynching, we've got one chance in six of killing a Mafia (assuming there are 2 mafiosi).
Vote: No lynch
Nothing has happened yet, there is nothing that we could really use to lynch someone
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh not the no lynch argument again. It's just a bad idea. We should really put it in the glossary.
:soapbox: If you cared to check I haven't been online until just now. Vote:Sasaki cause he's obviously guilty. :soapbox:Quote:
Originally Posted by Stig
unvote,vote:Ichigo
caving into pressure and using that ridiculous smiley.
:soapbox: See what I mean. You say ridiculous I say awesomilous.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
Unvote; Vote: Ichigo
I hate that smiley too :beam:
Hmm...Unvote, Vote: sapi for bandwagoning
Vote: SapiQuote:
Originally Posted by sapi
This was a pure and blatant bandwagon.
pever - How long are the day phases?
If you hate the smiley then that means you hate me, which breaks a rule I think. BAN BAN BAN BAN!!:soapbox:Quote:
Originally Posted by sapi
I think this can be timeless.
With 12 alive its 7 to lynch!
Timeless - so no limit?
If so, then Unvote
:yes: As soon as someone reaches the required number of votes, they are lynched.Quote:
Originally Posted by CountArach
In this game, you normally reveal when you are one or two votes away from lynching. (Thats my personal experience from these games)
Unvote,Vote:Warmaster Horus
I know from comments he's made that he's read the previous games, so he should know better then to vote for no lynch.
Well time is on our side. We can always reveal if we have to. Is PM quoting allowed?
This is a stupid argument. We don't know how many kills there will be each night (Though perhaps you do). As you said, if there are two mafia, we have a 1 in 6 chance of lynching them. So why don't we?Quote:
Greaterkhaan's right. Why kill someone who would be able to help us? However, in the argument of lynching, we've got one chance in six of killing a Mafia (assuming there are 2 mafiosi).
Vote: Warmaster
Its gonna be pretty hard to have 7 people vote for the same person when nothing has been done yet with no one really incriminated yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by pevergreen
It just takes time and bandwagoning. I suggest we stop discouraging bandwagonning in this game. It isn't dangerous because there is no deadline. Instead, let's be really careful about putting on the 6th or 7th votes. Those are the dangerous votes, unlike in other games where people are lynched with 2 or 3 votes so that bandwagoning is a very real concern.Quote:
Originally Posted by Xdeathfire
Hmm so I guess I'll bandwagon and Unvote, vote: WarmasterQuote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
How would a townie know that? It seems to me that in most mafias there are 2 mafiosi.Quote:
Originally Posted by CA
Also, I'm sorry to say that by thinking it through, you're right. A lynch does make sense. I've been playing this like a long-term Mafia. :oops:
SK, I read mostly about the long mafias. In which I believe it's more usefull NOT to lynch at the beginning.
So, Unvote.
BTW, SK, why me? Why not greaterkhaan or Xdeathfire? I seem to recall that the latter played in more mafias than me...
Hmmm, just because it is early play, doesn't mean we should pile heaps of votes on at page 2.
Unvote: Warmaster
I picked you because I specifically remember you referencing past games. In the large games it is also advantageous to lynch.Quote:
Originally Posted by Warmaster Horus
Vote: Xdeathfire
Reason: jumping onto every bandwagon possable, are you hiding something?
Unvote; Vote: Xdeathfire
For bandwagoning.
And I'm not a hypocrite :grin2:
Someone please do a votecount. within the next 11 hours.
I did not bandwagon at every time. I voted no lynch at first merely because I did not know that there wasn't a time limit and that we needed a majority of the people to lynch. I bandwagoned with warmaster since Sasaki said that bandwagoning was actually encouraged except for the last two votes.
Think of it, if we call bandwagoning at everyone who is a second voter, how are we gonna get the majority of the voters?
Since you guys are accusing me of bandwagoning, I'll Unvote, Vote:sapi again for bandwagoning and being a hypocrite
Havn't you been playing long enough to know not to trust Sasaki?? (unless he tells us to lynch someone)Quote:
Originally Posted by Xdeathfire
But Sasaki was telling us to lynch Warmaster so we according to you should have all voted and lynched him.
Playing mafia rule #1:
Never trust Sasaki
Vote count, because pever requested it:
sapi: 1 (Xdeathfire)
Xdeathfire: 2 (sapi, Byzantineknight)
WH: 1 (Sasaki)
Sasaki: 1 (Ichigo)
No lynch: 1 (greaterkhaan)
Ichigo: 1 (Stig)
Although I think this list is incorrect. Please check.
Usually he has good hunches, while he has a valid point, I think that you are a better lynch candidate.Quote:
Originally Posted by Xdeathfire
Vote:Xdeathfire
Don't put the blame on me. Are you saying you voted Warmaster not because you agreed with my logic on bandwagoning but because you thought the fact that I was encouraging it meant you could get away with it?
fos:sapi be serious.
btw we do need to bandwagon my previous post was correct.
Unvote:, Vote:khaan
Bah no lynch.
Sasaki, I really don't like the randomness of the first round - we're bound to get a townie, or at least that's what my past games have shown - so I won't take anything seriously until we have something to go on.Quote:
fos:sapi be serious.
That said, Unvote; Vote: khaan, as a no lynch simply doesn't help (and Xdeathfire doesn't strike me as guilty, just stupid)
Well we now need 7 votes, so some people will have to bandwagon as otherwise you never get there.Quote:
Sasaki, I really don't like the randomness of the first round - we're bound to get a townie, or at least that's what my past games have shown - so I won't take anything seriously until we have something to go on.
XDeathFire’s Posts
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showp...3&postcount=38
As Sasaki said the post after, No Lynch doesn’t help us. At this point he didn’t know it was going to be timeless, so he can’t use that defence here. I think that he may just be scum trying to not incriminate himself by voting for an innocent.Quote:
Vote: No lynch
Nothing has happened yet, there is nothing that we could really use to lynch someone
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showp...5&postcount=52
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showp...0&postcount=54Quote:
Its gonna be pretty hard to have 7 people vote for the same person when nothing has been done yet with no one really incriminated yet.
Notice how he simply bandwagons without providing any real hard evidence for why he voted. Everyone up to this point had provided some argument, or had random voted. I know we shouldn’t discourage bandwagonning, but I would prefer a bandwagon with intelligence.Quote:
Hmm so I guess I'll bandwagon and Unvote, vote: Warmaster
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showp...8&postcount=61
Just to refresh everyone’s memory, Sasaki actually said:Quote:
I did not bandwagon at every time. I voted no lynch at first merely because I did not know that there wasn't a time limit and that we needed a majority of the people to lynch. I bandwagoned with warmaster since Sasaki said that bandwagoning was actually encouraged except for the last two votes.
Think of it, if we call bandwagoning at everyone who is a second voter, how are we gonna get the majority of the voters?
Since you guys are accusing me of bandwagoning, I'll Unvote, Vote:sapi again for bandwagoning and being a hypocrite
Nowhere does Sasaki say that Bandwagoning is encouraged, he simply says that it is not discouraged. A small point, but still anything can help at this point.Quote:
It just takes time and bandwagoning. I suggest we stop discouraging bandwagonning in this game. It isn't dangerous because there is no deadline. Instead, let's be really careful about putting on the 6th or 7th votes. Those are the dangerous votes, unlike in other games where people are lynched with 2 or 3 votes so that bandwagoning is a very real concern.
The second point is just re-iterating his earlier posts, though he seems more intent to stick with Sasaki, so FoS: Sasaki if XDeathFire turns out to be scum.
And the vote… I just can’t understand this. He votes for Sapi for bandwagoning and Hypocrisy. Wait, hang on. Didn’t he just encourage bandwagoning? This in itself is hypocrisy!
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showp...7&postcount=63
This was in response to:Quote:
But Sasaki was telling us to lynch Warmaster so we according to you should have all voted and lynched him.
I don’t see the relevance of his points here. He seems to be trying to deflect blame onto someone else. This is a very scummy thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by BK
So yeah, that is the reason for:
Vote: XDeathFire
Hmmm...
I also find it hard to believe that he would take my vote against him seriously, especially as I made a point of emphasising the joke in the post.
I'd like to hear khann talk, so my vote remains, but I'll be watching x very carefully...
sapi: 1 (Xdeathfire)
Xdeathfire: 4 (sapi, Byzantineknight,Sasaki,CountArach)
Khaan 2 (Ichigo,Sapi{
No lynch: 1 (greaterkhaan)
Ichigo: 1 (Stig)
Xdeath what do you have to say?
I'd also like everyone's opinion on xdeath (those who haven't given it already).
Well hard to say, this being day 1.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
We haven't even seen the mafia in action yet, this will be a 50% random lynch.
He however does jump on every bandwagon ... I doubt anyone would do that as mafia, that's just too stupid
sapi: 1 (Xdeathfire)
Xdeathfire: 4 (sapi, Byzantineknight,Sasaki,CountArach)
Khaan 1 (Ichigo)
No lynch: 1 (greaterkhaan)
Ichigo: 1 (Stig)
Unvote; Vote: Xdeathfire
You had me on twice; I see that Xdeathfire is by far the best lynch on the little information that we have avaliable.
Khaan is still relitively new and that small bit of conscience inside me is saying to let him live at least another round.
I would like to say that like what Stig has said, I have jumped on bandwagons which is something that most mafia would not do and that is my third mafia game but more like my second since I didn't participate much in the first Capo one. I am a relatively beginner to mafia so it is quite impossible that I am the mafia
This is one of the most recurring defenses by relative newcomers. It is also rather faulty, because mafia are chosen randomly.Quote:
I am a relatively beginner to mafia so it is quite impossible that I am the mafia
New guys can also be mafiosi. Hence, Xdeathfire might be a mafioso.
So, Vote:Xdeathfire.
Sorry mate. It just happens.
While not lynching someone might not help us, persay, it ensures we don't hurt ourselves at a point when we don't really have a ton to go on. I'd like to wait until at least one kill before we decide to start lynching people. Oh, and as for Ichigo wanting me dead, he seems to like killing me in mafia games. He's tried killing me off in every game we've both been in.Quote:
Originally Posted by sapi
Maybe Ichigo can explain that, but for now you're not the one who needs to defend himself the most.
Xdeathfire has 5 votes, I believe. We only need two more to lynch him.
He has 6. No one put the last on until he has claimed.
@GreaterKhan: What do you expect to learn from the kill? Lynching is the only way to beat the mafia.