Reign of Ares (tbs, city mod, new units, fixes and more) to eb with bi

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1. Install a fresh copy of RTW and BI, patch it to 1.6.
2. Install EB
3. EB with BI:
- Make a shortcut with a targetline:
"your install folder\RomeTW-BI.exe" -mod:eb -nm -show_err
- make a copy of
your install folder\eb\data\world\maps\campaign\imperial_campaiagn
and rename that copy to barbarian_invasion (you should now have two folders in that location)
-delete
your install folder\eb\data\world\maps\base\map.rwm and from Bi\data\world\maps\base
4.Unzip the file
5. Copy from RoA EB folder and copy into your Rome directory, overwrite all files.
6.Delete map.rwm from RTW\Data\world\maps\base and from BI\Data\world\maps\base and from EB\Data\maps\base
8. Play from Provincial Campaign or EB Campaign or CB

What is Reign of Ares
New units - (CB)-only in CB
Syracusian Hoplitai, Athenaioi Hoplitai(CB),Korinthos Hoplitai(CB),Tarentine Hoplitai, Euboieis Hoplitai(CB), Barus Hoplitai, Tachys Hoplitai, Thebai Hoplitai, Etruria Hoplitai, Spartiatai Hoplitai(300)(CB), Bann Mawgan, Makednikoi Sarissphoroi, Seleukeia Sarissphoroi, Hypaspistai, Chaonion Hypaspistai, Numidian Light Infantry, Numidian Regulars, Thrakioi Psilai, Numidian Heavy Spearman, Desert Spearmen, Bedouin Warriors, Arab Infantry, Dorkim Poeni, Agema Peltastoi(macedon), Agema Peltastoi(epir), Pontik Agema, Celt-Iberian Spearman, Argyraspides Peltastoi(seleucid), Euzonoi, Spartiatai Sarissophori(Cleomenes III reform), Argyraspides Legeonarioi, Legeonarioi( seleucid), Lonchophoroi Scutari, Legeonarioi(pont), Kartadis Legeonarioi(ptol), Prima Cohors Reformata, Prima Cohors Imperatoria Dorkim Leebi Edamin (Liby Heavy Infantry(late)), African Pikemen,Chiliarchiai Pontik Thorakitai, Hipparchia Prodromoi (Successor Medium Cavalry),Aitolia Prodromoi ,Etruria Hastati,Lucan Hastati,Lucan Spearmen,Umbrian Hastati,Umbrian Spearmen,Picenian Principes ,Dorkim Aloopim Mesoorianim(Elite African Spearman)?,Chiliarchiai Agema Pontik Thorakitai and some change in skins
This is some units from RoA 1.0

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-full city mod 2.1 with my change
-some fixes to stability with new ctd rebel fix (rtr style)
-night batles
-TBS 0.4 new battle system , Sinuhet with Darth an Thorlof formation Ai in one with adjust(my) to EB with Bi, Shield wall, schiltrom , units can swim, warcry adds, realistic troop numbers 1:10 (in huge)1 strategiai(or another name) sarissoforoi (1500-1600men)-160, 1 Chiliarchiai hoplits,psiloi,and other hellenistic infantry -(1000) 100. Ile (300-500)-48 horsmen. Romans hastati, princeps-120(1200 in early legion) triari - 60(600) cohort postmarian- 48(480) first cohort-80(800), alae- 48(400-500) horsmen, ala miliariae-100(1000) socii, auxiliare. )Others 100-200 in infantry, 48-100 horse this is link to TBS 0.4 to clean EB with bi -only battle system[http://files.filefront.com/TBS041rar.../fileinfo.html and fix http://files.filefront.com/testdescr.../fileinfo.html
-new cost of units - now army states is more realistic
-new price in trade
-new building to Seleucid, Ptolemaioi, Pontus- Legionarioi but huge cost an time
-new light file (4 version)
-new mercenary modyfications
-new battlefield by Beleg
-new win condition
-money script
-alternative EDU with EB number of troops
-lots of small change in others files
Thanx
King Luis Assurbanipal,Limes, LAca, Titus Andronicus,Sinuhet, Darth, MarcusAureliusAntoninus, Goth, Saniol, Beleg, Sacred Legionary, Southern Hunter, JMRC, mlp071, Sheep, Redmeth
And EB Team - yours mod is the best
PS Sorry for my english
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TBS 0.41 http://files.filefront.com/TBS041rar.../fileinfo.html
and fix http://files.filefront.com/testdescr.../fileinfo.html

Congratulations for your new release. It is a good submod for the EB.
My question for you would be if you fixed the rebel CTD problem, when using BI.exe. I played your 3.0 mod but once in a while, when there was a rebellion in AI faction, during AI turn, there followed a nasty CTD. When using RTW.exe the CTD almost disapaired.

Oh, looks very nice. 've been looking forward to that for a long time :laugh4:

Edit: Omg, what did you do? I just installed your mod and found out that every unit has 2 hitpoints and an incredible defence! That's madness! An average battle in EB already lasts long enough. But I like the new units, especially because they have existed and add a lot of realism to the game.

Question before I download...

I have these submods on the game right now:

1st Cohort Mod
Watchman's EB with BI
Changed Money Scripts
Elephants fix

Will this submod work fine? And does this add more realism, besides the 300? That is the reason I love EB. Thanks in advance.

Sorry for this post again but what is this download for?

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Originally Posted by Thorlof

-TBS 0.4 new battle system , Sinuhet with Darth an Thorlof formation Ai in one with adjust(my) to EB with Bi, Shield wall, schiltrom , units can swim, warcry adds, realistic troop numbers 1:10 (in huge)1 strategiai(or another name) sarissoforoi (1500-1600men)-160, 1 Chiliarchiai hoplits,psiloi,and other hellenistic infantry -(1000) 100. Ile (300-500)-48 horsmen. Romans hastati, princeps-120(1200 in early legion) triari - 60(600) cohort postmarian- 48(480) first cohort-80(800), alae- 48(400-500) horsmen, ala miliariae-100(1000) socii, auxiliare. )Others 100-200 in infantry, 48-100 horse this is link to TBS 0.4 to clean EB with bi http://files.filefront.com/TBS04rar/.../fileinfo.html but compatable with City mod- you must delete ; in 2 units Prima Cohors Reformata and Prima Cohors Imperatoria in EDU

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Oh I clicked on the download and it's the TBS 0.4, but doesn't the 1st download link have it already? How come we are given a sepeate link for the TBS?

Sorry for so many questions it's just this sounds soo cool.

Started a Seleucid Campaign now and saw that the Seleucids now have 6 Heavy Assault units to guard the flanks. It's really sad that you can only have 20 units in one army, because so we can never use them all.
Thorlof, do you know how an standard Seleucid Army was built? Perhaps can include all of these units in my army this way, by using historical armys.

1. added rebel city CTD fix, oasis ctd fix, Tuat Celtiberian alliance script fix
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Edit: Omg, what did you do? I just installed your mod and found out that every unit has 2 hitpoints and an incredible defence! That's madness!

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not this not madness. If play you understad- attack from flank not front.
3.Xhin_Akuma no problem.RoA overwite this file. Some nonhistoric units its only in CB
4.http://files.filefront.com/TBS04rar/.../fileinfo.html this link to TBS 0.4- only 4 files to clean Eb with bi . First link http://files.filefront.com/Reign_of_.../fileinfo.html this is full RoA
5.not only guards flank . historic army hm 25000 sarissafori,21000 heavy and light inf,10000 cav. and some elef and char.

Ah thanks Thorlof, I've played a few battles and now understand that this isn't madness. This is Sparta:laugh4:
Thanks for the info on the historical army, but I meant something like Thoraktai, but I think this is beyond natural knowledge. I'll better see if I can lay hands on "The Seleucid Army" by Bar-Kochva.

Good lord. Thorlof, I want to say I liked your mini-mod, and appreciate your hard work. I love the units, but what really put me off was the prolonged battle time, the 2hp for EVERY unit, the exagerated amount of mnai necessary to recruit cavalry, and the 0 turn recruit time. I mean, come on, the enemy will swarm those pesky levies every turn! In my Romani campaign I can build a super army in one season! I really don't like this one, but keep going and thank you.

This is awesome minimod. I know it's going to be popular.

MindLich- Yes this is real in history-Hannibal or Pyrrus destroy one roman army SPQR build another , but if you play hellenistic state uuu this is hard. 1-8 turn recruit time and very high cost of units.

I think it's just very very exagerated. Maybe you will realize. Anyway I would really like to play this mod if it wouldn't for those things so I will be checking on it. In the meantime I will play Watchman's take on units.

hmm..im having problems now...whenever I get into a campaign (loading or new game), there is no fog of war on the map like I did that toggle_fow console command cheat and I see everything like cities and what's built in them. And whenever I exit the campaign I keep getting CTDs. Are these suppose to happen?

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hmm..im having problems now...whenever I get into a campaign (loading or new game), there is no fog of war on the map like I did that toggle_fow console command cheat and I see everything like cities and what's built in them. And whenever I exit the campaign I keep getting CTDs. Are these suppose to happen?

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In me game fog of war is happen. I dont now why in your game this not fog of war. In exit, yes ctd but i dont now why :wall: i working for this but simple I dont now :oops:

2 tings I noticed: Sab'yns can recruit the new Arabian units only through native MIC. Kinda strange.
Seleucids can't build Indian elephants nor use them in custom battle.
I like the prices of the hellenistic cavalry, but the infantry prices, especially those of the elites are much too high. Roman legionarys cost less than legionaroi and are better. Don't know, but I also think the roman version needs a lower level of MIC.
@Mindlich: I have played some custom battles now to test this mod and I have come to the conclusion that it is not exaggerated. I had a battle against an full Ptolemaic stack and it didn't last much more than half an hour. Those Hellenikoi Kataphraktoi rock now :2thumbsup:

Basileus Seleukeia this is first version .Sab'yans mayby i change this "tings". but Roman legionars is the best killing machin, seleucyd,egypt and Pont legionaroi is only a copy(hm not legal ???)
Mindlich this is not exaggerated, defend always better that attack but if you play in my mod you understand what happen if Ai attack with flank.

Yeah.... If I could read your post without my eyes hurting I would be able to say this more politely, but what the heck is that:
-new building to Seleucid, Ptolemaioi, Pontus- Legionarioi but huge cost an time
What is this bunch of words supposed to tell me?
Well, I think first verions are made for being criticised so that you can make things better, right?:laugh4:

Right :yes: Buildings Legionaroi is high cost(reform) and time -This units not happen after battle of Magnesia (190 bc)

Ah, thank you.
In order to add Indian elephants to seleucids I opened the EDU and saw that everything was alright... They Seleucids (romans_julii) were in the list of nations which can recruit them. Seleucids can build them also in the EDB. But for some strange reason they are not available in-game...
Oh, and please xcuse me for being a bit harsh because of your English. I just read the sentence in your first post that said you're not so fluent in English. But I didn't realy realize it in that post, except for the legionaroi-line.

Edit: Moved the word "romans_julii" back and forth with space and restarted the campaign and cheated my wy until I conquered Baktria: It now works, I can recruit them.

You understand my english ?:dizzy2: not understand "except for the legionaroi-line." What line ? This with Buildings ? mhh cost and 200 turn building time- dont build legionaroi after 200 bc( i must mayby go to help to friends from Poland, mayby one or two writing in english :help: )

Well, maybe the 2hp and defense is not exaggerated. But the 0 round build time and the soo high upkeep for cavalry really prevent me from enjoying the game.

Now I'm totally confused. Do I have to build a special building with 200 Turns buidl time in order to recruit legionaroi? I thought they are just tied to RTW Vanilla Marian reforms.
And, by the way: What is your evidence that says the copy legionarys didn't use pilum-like throwing spears? I'm just curios, because I can't really imagine someone copys those guys and just "forgets" the legendary pilum...

@Mindlich: The 0-turn recruitment-thing can easily be fixed, as Gaias wrote in the old TBS Thread:
Why would changing this yourself be hard? All you have to do is open the EDU up in notepad and use the replace command. Just copy the line "stat_cost 0" (include the spaces)and put it in the 'Find what:' box and put the text "stat_cost 1" in the 'Replace with:' box and press the 'Replace all' button. This should revert all units with the zero recruit time bact to the one turn (you have to use "quote" on my text, otherwise you wont see the many spaces that have to be inbeetween stat_cost and the number)

hm 0 time only for SPQR and some barbarian units-this is real. Cavalry is high this is real.In Kynoskefalaj Philip V -only 3000 cavalry. High cost for small "to koinon Makedonon" to more cavalry.
Yes 200 turn ."Orient" legionaroi dont have pilum .Only sword(I thing)

Thorlof, did you understand my question? Is there evidence that "oriental" legionarys didn't use pilas? Where is this evidence? If you don#t understand, perhaps one of your Polish friends can help you.

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Thorlof, did you understand my question? Is there evidence that "oriental" legionarys didn't use pilas? Where is this evidence? If you don#t understand, perhaps one of your Polish friends can help you.

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Yes I understand. My writing is badly not reading :beam: This is foggy matter(affair?) some writing :book: - legionaroi use pilum or jevlins some :book: dont use only sword or spear(or both).But this units(KLA) dont have pilum only sword and i must build units without pilum :embarassed: .

Perhaps you can ask KLA to add those animations, I think he would not refuse this tiny gift for a big mod :laugh4:

Mayby if I ask KLA for this , but why ?

Erm... It adds realism? Well, if you don't want to bother him, I cant take amiss. It was just an idea...

What is realism if one writing- use pilum another dont use. in picture dont have pilum , only sword or spear. But this "romanized army reform" is only theory, some(chief EB - Urnamma) against for this theory.

The EB paradigm is that the "copy legionaires" were actually homegrown assault infantry types which the Romans, in due egocentric form, duly took to be copies of their so very excellent pattern (nevermind now that *they* had originally copied it from someone too...) right ? Certainly the only ones known for certain to be "copies" are the Numidian ones, which were originally trained by allied Roman officers, and those are a tad off the EB timeframe aren't they...?

Yes , you are right . Only Numidians and mayby Pont and Dacia (but another time) units trained by Romans(some is deserter) but this is "roman style "tactic and units but equipment is not this same as romans legionist

Sorry Thorlof, but could you please confirm me that your post is supposed to say that:
Only Numidians, Pontics and Dacia (later) had units trained by Romans. Some of these Romans were deserters.
But those "units with Roman influence" use Roman tactics but not exactly the same equipment as the Roman legionarys.
But what has this to do with those "Legionaroi" being mis-interpreted Thorakitai and therefore being historical inaccurate? I'm confused again :dizzy2:

Thorakitai is only one type this units -another look to stelle from sidon or figures from this times or...look Montvert. This legionaroi is only one type romanized units.

Ah, now I understand. there is some evidence for roman-influenced units, and it is debeatable whether the Thorakitai are these or if they are just one type of them. So I can continue playing with the feeling of an historical accurate campaign:sweatdrop: :2thumbsup:

OK then how about the number of units I know its qiute realistic in scale but I wanted battles that can cover the whole map..can Thorlof pls make another version with maximizing the number of men in the battlefield

Say, I've been looking through the formation files and and started wondering about one thing, namely the unit_type parameters "light_pilum_infantry" and "heavy_pilum_infantry". Any idea what exactly counts as those ? Infantry with precursors, infantry with pilums for their ranged attack, or infantry identified as "light" or "heavy" "pilum" infantry by the relevant EDU lines (which none currently are)?

I'm really enjoying the mod so far, the only thing I would change is the high cost of cavalry.

I know whats causing the toggle_fow thing now, it was the other minimods. I had to do a clean install.

So the CTD When exiting is one of the problems right? I hope it will get fixed in a next release.

G3N3RAL GR13V0US -mayby in next relase 2 version with 1/10 scale and 1/1 scale with low cost ? But this is mayby crazy idea.
Watchman-this is working with pilum infantry. In others precursors- i dont now , but this is good idea to testing. But if You use only formation ai , you must change line unit_density loose, close
to unit_density close, loose
this is simple in edit -change all. In RoA (and TBS) some barbarian units with warcry attributes use pseudo shield wall in defence.
MButcher- cavalry cost is high only in hellenistic states and some cartaginian units.
Xhin_Akuma- only 1 ctd- in quit from campaign. I testing now 189 bc and dont have another ctd.

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Watchman-this is working with pilum infantry. In others precursors- i dont now , but this is good idea to testing. But if You use only formation ai , you must change line unit_density loose, close
to unit_density close, loose
this is simple in edit -change all. In RoA (and TBS) some barbarian units with warcry attributes use pseudo shield wall in defence.

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Good point. Will do.

Thorloff, I asked you about CTD in case of a rebel city. I read you have the fix. But after only 4 turns I let Rhegion rebel and the consequence was a CTD. Therefore I still believe that playing with BI, especially your mod can be very tedious and frustrating. I hate CTD when cities rebel. This is a fact that the player cannot control all the time and it can lead to a turn that you just can not pass over. and then endgame.

I, addded rebel fix but not 100% working.Sometime is ctd.This is not my work.My minimod can be very tedious and frustrating ???

I meant having the same number of trrops as vannila one ie Legionares with eagle has 260 men...etc.or change the scale to 1:4 or 1:6 I have no idea if thats posible or what

:help: I can't download this, when I tried it would get to anything from 3% to 30%, then stop downloading. When I clicked off the downloader and onto it again, it would no longer say % complete, but "file download". I tried several times and the registered for file front incase that would make any difference, but now I can't even get onto the file info screen from the link, as the page dosen't load. I have tried saving the target of the link and then oppening the page from the desktopbut that dosen't work either. I have also tried logging out of fileshack but that doesen't seem to help either. Any help would be appricated.

Thanks guys.

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But if You use only formation ai , you must change line unit_density loose, close to unit_density close, loose
this is simple in edit -change all.

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I'm interested in using only the Sinuhet/Darth formations aspect of your mod with the 81a build. I wasn't exactly clear on what you wrote as far as editing the formation files if one is only going to use the formations aspect of your mod. Is this what you mean? In the text file this line needs to be changed for all....

unit_density close

changed to

unit_density loose

Is that what your saying?
Also, does this change need to be done for both descr_formations.txt as well as descr_formations_ai.txt??

I had my first CTD with this mod. I was playing as Lusitanians. It seems to be the Hayasdan-turn CTD, but i can't bypass it by trying it several times. Sadly have to quit that campaign. I started to like it...

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I'm interested in using only the Sinuhet/Darth formations aspect of your mod with the 81a build. I wasn't exactly clear on what you wrote as far as editing the formation files if one is only going to use the formations aspect of your mod. Is this what you mean? In the text file this line needs to be changed for all....

unit_density close

changed to

unit_density loose

Is that what your saying?
Also, does this change need to be done for both descr_formations.txt as well as descr_formations_ai.txt??

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No :no: only change loose, close to close,loose or close but this is only for eb with bi (schield_wall , schiltrom) only in descr_formations_ai
descr_formations is clear darth i dont have change this file.
Hayasadan ctd this is big problem in eb .Mayby next relase or new fix change this bug.

Got it...Thanks Thorloff..It appears i managed to mangle what you were saying the first time around.

I'm playing a Hayasdan campaign at the moment I saw that I can't build Armenian Noble Cataphracts, in no region at all. That's strange because in the EDU and EDB everything seems right.

I CTD evrytime after I press quit

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I CTD evrytime after I press quit

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Unfortunately yes this is problem.

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I'm playing a Hayasdan campaign at the moment I saw that I can't build Armenian Noble Cataphracts, in no region at all. That's strange because in the EDU and EDB everything seems right.

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yes this is strange. I play now Hayasdan and check this.

Well can I request for a larger (bit) than vannila amount of figures(men) on the battlefield eg 260-300 men each???. I just love the new formation + phalanxes omg the best +all the new units.

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Well can I request for a larger (bit) than vannila amount of figures(men) on the battlefield eg 260-300 men each???. I just love the new formation + phalanxes omg the best +all the new units.

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240 is a hardcoded maximum. I find the 1:6 scale provides the best balance of large units, with a consistent scaling.

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yes this is strange. I play now Hayasdan and check this.

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It's the same with the armoured horse archers. they are only available in Armavir (the starting city). But I can't imagine how this can happen, in the EDB and EDU everything is right.... or does it just seem to be right?:idea2:

I know that with the vanilla EB EDB the Hai catas aren't recruitable in Armavir. I fixed the matter by adapting the recruitement line of the royal guard infantry (who are recruitable in exactly two locales from the top-level faction MIC, one of these being just Armavir), but I don't know if Thorlof's done something similar.

The cata archers worked properly IIRC though.

eastern cavalry nakhararakan aspet,eastern missile cavalry zrahakir netadzik this units ?

Yes, these units. I just found out that in Ani-Kamah, I can also build Armoured Horse Archers, but still no Cataphracts.

eastern missile cavalry zrahakir netadzik this units is
recruit "eastern missile cavalry zrahakir netadzik" 0 requires factions { romans_scipii, } and hidden_resource EA and hidden_resource C and hidden_resource y1 and hidden_resource n2 and hidden_resource n4 and hidden_resource n8
recruit "eastern missile cavalry zrahakir netadzik" 0 requires factions { romans_scipii, } and hidden_resource SW and hidden_resource D and hidden_resource n1 and hidden_resource n2 and hidden_resource y4 and hidden_resource y8
eastern cavalry nakhararakan aspet is
recruit "eastern cavalry nakhararakan aspet" 0 requires factions { romans_scipii, } and hidden_resource SW and hidden_resource B and hidden_resource n1 and hidden_resource n2 and hidden_resource y4 and hidden_resource n8
recruit "eastern cavalry nakhararakan aspet" 0 requires factions { romans_scipii, } and hidden_resource NW and hidden_resource A and hidden_resource n1 and hidden_resource n2 and hidden_resource y4 and hidden_resource n8
recruit "eastern cavalry nakhararakan aspet" 0 requires factions { romans_scipii, } and hidden_resource NW and hidden_resource B and hidden_resource y1 and hidden_resource y2 and hidden_resource n4 and hidden_resource y8
recruit "eastern cavalry nakhararakan aspet" 0 requires factions { romans_scipii, } and hidden_resource NW and hidden_resource A and hidden_resource y1 and hidden_resource n2 and hidden_resource n4 and hidden_resource n8
recruit "eastern cavalry nakhararakan aspet" 0 requires factions { romans_scipii, } and hidden_resource NW and hidden_resource B and hidden_resource y1 and hidden_resource n2 and hidden_resource y4 and hidden_resource y8
recruit "eastern cavalry nakhararakan aspet" 0 requires factions { romans_scipii, } and hidden_resource SW and hidden_resource D and hidden_resource n1 and hidden_resource n2 and hidden_resource n4 and hidden_resource n8
recruit "eastern cavalry nakhararakan aspet" 0 requires factions { romans_scipii, } and hidden_resource NW and hidden_resource A and hidden_resource n1 and hidden_resource y2 and hidden_resource n4 and hidden_resource n8
recruit "eastern cavalry nakhararakan aspet" 0 requires factions { romans_scipii, } and hidden_resource SW and hidden_resource B and hidden_resource y1 and hidden_resource n2 and hidden_resource n4 and hidden_resource n8
recruit "eastern cavalry nakhararakan aspet" 0 requires factions { romans_scipii, } and hidden_resource NW and hidden_resource B and hidden_resource n1 and hidden_resource n2 and hidden_resource y4 and hidden_resource y8
recruit "eastern cavalry nakhararakan aspet" 0 requires factions { romans_scipii, } and hidden_resource SW and hidden_resource B and hidden_resource y1 and hidden_resource y2 and hidden_resource n4 and hidden_resource n8
recruit "eastern cavalry nakhararakan aspet" 0 requires factions { romans_scipii, } and hidden_resource NW and hidden_resource B and hidden_resource n1 and hidden_resource n2 and hidden_resource n4 and hidden_resource n8
recruit "eastern cavalry nakhararakan aspet" 0 requires factions { romans_scipii, } and hidden_resource NW and hidden_resource B and hidden_resource n1 and hidden_resource y2 and hidden_resource y4 and hidden_resource y8
recruit "eastern cavalry nakhararakan aspet" 0 requires factions { romans_scipii, } and hidden_resource NW and hidden_resource B and hidden_resource n1 and hidden_resource y2 and hidden_resource n4 and hidden_resource y8
recruit "eastern cavalry nakhararakan aspet" 0 requires factions { romans_scipii, } and hidden_resource NW and hidden_resource C and hidden_resource y1 and hidden_resource y2 and hidden_resource y4 and hidden_resource n8
recruit "eastern cavalry nakhararakan aspet" 0 requires factions { romans_scipii, } and hidden_resource SW and hidden_resource C and hidden_resource n1 and hidden_resource y2 and hidden_resource y4 and hidden_resource n8
recruit "eastern cavalry nakhararakan aspet" 0 requires factions { romans_scipii, } and hidden_resource NW and hidden_resource B and hidden_resource y1 and hidden_resource y2 and hidden_resource y4 and hidden_resource y8
recruit "eastern cavalry nakhararakan aspet" 0 requires factions { romans_scipii, } and hidden_resource SW and hidden_resource B and hidden_resource n1 and hidden_resource y2 and hidden_resource n4 and hidden_resource n8
recruit "eastern cavalry nakhararakan aspet" 0 requires factions { romans_scipii, } and hidden_resource NW and hidden_resource C and hidden_resource n1 and hidden_resource y2 and hidden_resource n4 and hidden_resource n8
recruit "eastern cavalry nakhararakan aspet" 0 requires factions { romans_scipii, } and hidden_resource NW and hidden_resource A and hidden_resource y1 and hidden_resource y2 and hidden_resource n4 and hidden_resource n8
this is from EDB in royal barrack- and dont recruit ? Strange, i play as Hai and if i build rb look this bug

Sorry, I don't quite understand what you're saying. Are you able to recruit Armenian Cataphracts and Armoured Horse Archers?

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recruit "eastern cavalry nakhararakan aspet" 0 requires factions { romans_scipii, } and hidden_resource NW and hidden_resource C and hidden_resource n1 and hidden_resource y2 and hidden_resource n4 and hidden_resource n8
recruit "eastern cavalry nakhararakan aspet" 0 requires factions { romans_scipii, } and hidden_resource NW and hidden_resource A and hidden_resource y1 and hidden_resource y2 and hidden_resource n4 and hidden_resource n8
recruit "eastern cavalry nakhararakan aspet" 0 requires factions { romans_scipii, } and hidden_resource EA and hidden_resource C and hidden_resource y1 and hidden_resource n2 and hidden_resource n4 and hidden_resource n8
recruit "eastern cavalry nakhararakan aspet" 0 requires factions { romans_scipii, } and hidden_resource EA and hidden_resource C and hidden_resource y1 and hidden_resource y2 and hidden_resource n4 and hidden_resource n8
recruit "eastern infantry nakhararakan tiknapah" 0 requires factions { romans_scipii, } and hidden_resource EA and hidden_resource C and hidden_resource y1 and hidden_resource n2 and hidden_resource n4 and hidden_resource n8
recruit "eastern infantry nakhararakan tiknapah" 0 requires factions { romans_scipii, } and hidden_resource EA and hidden_resource C and hidden_resource y1 and hidden_resource y2 and hidden_resource n4 and hidden_resource n8

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In my experience you'll need the two bolded and italicized lines to be able to recruit the Aspets in Armavir at least (I'm guessing the other settlement is Ani-Kamah).

It's weird, I cant even recruit Armenian Cataphracts in Ani-Kamah. But thanks for the help!

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Originally Posted by Pharnakes

:help: I can't download this, when I tried it would get to anything from 3% to 30%, then stop downloading. When I clicked off the downloader and onto it again, it would no longer say % complete, but "file download". I tried several times and the registered for file front incase that would make any difference, but now I can't even get onto the file info screen from the link, as the page dosen't load. I have tried saving the target of the link and then oppening the page from the desktopbut that dosen't work either. I have also tried logging out of fileshack but that doesen't seem to help either. Any help would be appricated.

Thanks guys.

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I realy want to play this mod, please, please has anybody got any suggestions how to sucesefuly download this mod?




Edit: Sorry no need to bother, I just downloaded it at a friends house

Does this mod include fixed money scripts?

As far as I can see, it doesn't. Just use Redmeth's ore The_Errant's, they're far better than the standard EB-MoneyforendlessAIhordes-Script.

Question for Thorloff...

I've been looking thru the formations_ai.txt files for both your TBS.31 version and now your current RoA version of this file. The current RoA version is pretty much completely altered from your .31 version. Rather, i should say, certain values were completely changed. To be more specific i'll use 2 of the most changed lines.

default_melee_state

block_relative_pos

These 2 values you've changed significantly from your .31 version to your current RoA version of the _ai.txt file. I'm assuming you've tested these changes along with the others you made in this file as it relates to AI behavior on the battlefield. Would you be kind enough to share your findings??
I'm very interested in attempting to improve AI battlefield behavior in my version of EB and i'm using your .31 version as a base for experimenting and testing. Unfortunately, my recreational time is somewhat limited so i don't get to test as often as i'd like. So any insights on your findings as it relates to the changes you've made would be appreciated.

Well can i request a unit file where the scale is max already to the hardcoded 240* limit of figures??? I just wanna see the deep phalanxes or the big romani legion marching forward

Sorry Lysander , my english is very bad to explanation You .But this is excuse from Darth https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=53604. But I working with Sinuhet 2 orders in default_melee_state (3 sometime dont work) and myself testing others commend. Ai in battlefield this is not only formation ai but very importance is stat_fire_delay in EDU.
G3N3RAL GR13V0US hardcoded is 240 .

I know that its hardcoded to 240...atm the riegn of ares unit figures are (the highest atm are the gallic units up to 202)..Im just requesting if you thorlof can put it to 240 please.....

Barbarian units in fix and next units -240-200 units in infantry( 200 to 240, 150-200)

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Originally Posted by Thorlof

Sorry Lysander , my english is very bad to explanation You .But this is excuse from Darth https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=53604. But I working with Sinuhet 2 orders in default_melee_state (3 sometime dont work) and myself testing others commend. Ai in battlefield this is not only formation ai but very importance is stat_fire_delay in EDU.
G3N3RAL GR13V0US hardcoded is 240 .

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No problem Thorloff...I wasn't really looking for an explanation as for what the default_melee_state & block_relative_position lines do anyway. I've read both DV guides inside and out several times so i'm pretty clear as to what does what according to DV. I was more interested in what you found in your tests as a result of changing those values significantly from one version to the next in your ai formation file in your mod. I was just hoping to save time is all...No biggie...I'll just test the differences myself and compare those differences to what the original Sinuhet code in his 7.0 version was trying to accomplish. All i need is actual time to do this....:wall:

just installed mod and i got some really strange/insanely huge upkeep prices; elephants are now 6000 and most of the units were mostly all around 1000 upkeep. did i install it wrong?

No, you didn't. Some of the prices are realy too high at the moment, but it is very much playable. And it is only the case with hellenic heavy cavalry. and Elephants are supposed to be expensive:laugh4:

Thorlof, I've found another bug: It is one of the sauromatean starting citys, Uspe. There are two royal herds buildings, and if I try to destroy one, the game crashes. It must be related to your mod because in vanilla EB that town only starts with a trader.

Thanx Basileus. I must see this bug.

This is fix to Roa 1.0 http://files.filefront.com/RoA10fixr.../fileinfo.html - some change in EDU and mount, elephantfix, rebuild formation with new.This is small fix-save working.
And TBS 0.41 (only battle system to clean EB) http://files.filefront.com/TBS041rar.../fileinfo.html
In folders alternative EDU - number troops from clean eB

Looks nice, I'll test it out:2thumbsup:

New formation files ? Neat ! :yes:
*proceeds to 'elevate' them*

Another bug: I was playing as the Sabaens and the forces of Tamane (I think this is the name, I mean that town right under Maryab) sallied and when I tried to fight that battle, I had a CTD. It never occured to me in vanilla, so I think it is somehow related to your mod. Or it could be one of those "once and never" bugs that sometimes pop up in EB.... But, Thorlof, you should really do somethinga about the sizes of Barbaric Cavalry, especially Galatikoi Lavotuxri. Theystill have 100 men which quite imbalances them against the other cavalry units which roughly have 50 riders.
In your description of the Dorkim Poeni it says that they used the Sarissa, but in your mod they use shieldwall.
Small Elephants have an archer floating 10 cm above their back, this seems to be a bug in that "elephant fix".
Just my 2 Cent.

Thanx Basileus, i myself dont have check all . I see this bug. In barbarian cavakry is 80 riders if Galatikoi Lavotuxri -100 this my mistake.
Description - yes this is problem for my.

Umm.I get a ctd trying to do a qiuck battle using ure ROa 1. fix....oh and does it work with the new patch?