Eye of an Eagle: A English M2TW PBM

Hi all,

I have attempted several of these PBM's before, all closed and deleted because of oter PBM's happening. Well I have decided to start a new one, as I think I've waited a bit.

Anyway, here are the rules:

*This FAQ is borrowed from the KotR's game, and if any objections please PM me.*

Eye of the Eagle: A english M2TW PBeM.

Introduction

The general idea of the Eye of the Eagle(EotE) game is to allow a large group of players to determine the fate and development of the English Kingdom in M2TW.

All players are “Electors” and will belong to one of the four Ducal Houses, York (north), Wellington (west), Nottingham (east) or Canterbury (south). Eventually all players will be represented by an in-game character known as an “avatar.” This will typically be a general, but agents such as spies, priests or diplomats can be used as well upon request. It is not advisable to use an assassin as an avatar, as they have short life expectancies. If a player’s avatar gets into a battle, the player is expected to download the savegame and fight the battle.

Collectively, the Electors form the Parliment. This has two functions - to elect a Chancellor and to create Edicts. The Chancellor will be the “reigning player” and control the game during his term in office. He will move all the generals, authorize any buildings from the build queues and train any units/agents. “Edicts” are laws that require the Chancellor to take specific actions. These can be very wide ranging in scope, but typically include such things as declaring war against another nation, seeking an alliance with a neutral country, or making peace with an enemy nation.

If you wish to join the game...

Then post here what house you want to be in, and I will put you down!


Electors

All players, except the King, are Electors, even if they hold another rank. It is the lowest rank in the game and all new players begin at this level. As an Elector, you may speak in the Parliment, propose one Edict per session, vote on Edicts, and vote for Chancellor. All Electors belong to one of the Ducal Houses. You are not required to follow the orders or suggestions of your Duke, but he has the ability to bestow and remove ranks and privileges. If you have ambitions to rise to a higher rank, carefully consider whether your Duke will approve of your actions or not.

It is important to remember that you can only freely propose one personal Edict per Diet session. Choose an issue that is important to you and think very carefully about how you word it. A poorly worded or unimportant Edict can easily be ignored and forgotten. The only way you can propose more than one Edict per Diet session is through the approval of your Duke.

Electors will be provided with avatars on the basis of seniority; first come, first served. Generals are the most popular avatars and there may be a waiting period to obtain one. Agent avatars can usually be obtained quickly, but are not as complex and are not really suited for players who wish to rise to a higher rank. If you take a general as an avatar, you will be expected to fight any battles the avatar gets into, assuming he commands the army. You will have 48 hours in which to fight the battle after you are notified about it. When that time expires, the battle will be autoresolved, which could result in the death of your avatar. If you do not want to fight battles and there is a shortage of generals for avatars, please do not accept one. If you want an avatar but do not wish to fight, please consider using an agent.

Electors also have some special options. As you don't have a representive on the campaign map, they pick one of the avabile unit.

E.g.: You are a Elector with no Avatar, so you like Longbows, so you ask teh Chancellor to train a Longbow Unit and that represents YOU! it can join a army of a avatar, but if involved in a battle they have to get rights of you to take part in the battle (though the avatar commands it)

Also with Elector Units they can break off from a army, and if attacked they're to fight.

Counts

Counts are prominent nobles within their Houses. The title of Count can be bestowed upon an Elector by his Duke. The role of Count is identical to that of an Elector with a general avatar, with a few exceptions.

A Count rules over one of the settlements (city or castle) in his Ducal House. The Count may, at his discretion, determine the order in which buildings are created in that settlement (build queue). The Chancellor is not required to build anything in the settlement, but if something is built, it must be in the order determined by the Count. The Count can also set the tax rate in his settlement, if it is a city. Counts gain a small influence bonus during votes on Edicts and in elections for Chancellor. Counts can name an heir to take over their lands when they die. For practical purposes, this should only be an Elector from your Ducal House with a general avatar who is not already a Count.

There are two kinds of Counts: Freehold Counts and Bonded Counts. The difference is simple. Freehold Counts are the natural born sons of a Duke. They cannot be removed from control of their settlement, though the Duke can still name another as his heir if a Freehold Count displeases him. Bonded Counts are non-blood sons of a Duke, such as adoptees, sons-in-law, or anyone else who is not a natural born son. Bonded Counts can be stripped of their titles and lands at any time and for any reason by the Duke.

Dukes

Dukes are the heads of the Houses. They are figures of authority and they wield a great deal of power. There is only one Duke per House and a player can only become Duke by being the Duke’s heir at the time of his death. The role of Duke has many more powers than that of Count and Dukes gain a significant influence bonus during votes on Edicts and in elections for Chancellor.

The Duke rules over the capital of his House and all provinces which do not have a Count. Just like with a Count, the Duke can determine the build queue and tax rate for these settlements, but he can give orders for as many of them as he wishes. Dukes are also responsible for promoting and demoting Bonded Counts. A Duke may give any Elector with a general avatar the rank of Count, making them a Bonded Count. He may take away their lands at any time or switch their lands as he sees fit. The Duke can name an heir to take over as head of his House when he dies. For practical purposes, this should only be an Elector from your Ducal House with a general avatar, and it is recommended (though not necessary) that the person already be a Count.

The Duke is responsible for managing the affairs of his House and will often be dealing directly with the Chancellor and the Kaiser in high-level political discussions. Dukes may propose one personal Edict per Diet session, but also control three additional House Edict proposals per Diet session. These proposals are no different than any other Edicts, but they must have the pre-secured backing of at least two seconders from inside the Duke’s House. These can be the Duke’s own Edicts, but it is recommended that the Duke pick at least some of them from amongst the ‘extras’ his Electors want to put forward. It would be entirely appropriate for the Duke to use incentives and threats to ensure that the policies he wants get put forward. However, remember that even these extra Edict proposals must come pre-seconded by two members of his House. Don’t anger too many of your Electors or they could prevent you from using your extra Edict proposals!

Finally, the Duke controls the Household Army. The Household Army is the House’s personal military force and it is largely independent of outside control. The Duke is responsible for determining where it is garrisoned, who commands it, and what orders it is given. For more details, read the Game Rule on Household Armies.

Stewards

Stewards are Electors who are temporarily acting as Dukes. KOTR originally started with two Stewards, but for the most part, the title of Steward is a temporary one bestowed on a House Elector for a short time when a Duke is unavailable to fulfill his duties. In reality, this happens when a player who is a Duke is going on vacation or is otherwise going to be out-of-touch with the game for a short period of time.

Stewards have all of the powers of Dukes for the duration of their term, except that they cannot name an heir.

King

The King is the supreme head of the Kingdom. It is a hereditary position. (Note: This is not historical, but there’s no way to change this in-game.) While the King is theoretically the most powerful man in the entire Kingdom, in the EotE game he plays a more subtle role. The King gains an influence bonus equal to his authority during votes on Edicts and in elections for Chancellor.

First, the King presides over the Parliment. It is his job to maintain order in the Parliment and ensure that it runs smoothly. If there is a dispute about the Game Rules, the King will make the final decision about the proper manner to follow the Rules.

Second, the King does not belong to any of the Ducal Houses. Upon inheriting the throne, they leave their old House for good and lose any other titles (Elector, Count, Duke) that they might have. The King is expected to act for the good of the kingdom, rather than an individual House. While Kings are expected to be impartial, they will certainly have strong opinions about what is best for the Kingdom. This may in turn result in them siding with Houses that support their decisions and working against Houses that they believe are hurting the Kingdom.

Third, Kings allocate newly captured provinces to the Ducal Houses. When a province is captured, it comes under the direct control of the king, who can control them in the same manner that the Dukes and the Counts can control their own lands. The King may allocate any of his lands to any of the Ducal Houses. Once allocated, they cannot ever be returned to the King. House provinces where are re-taken after being occupied by an enemy do not count as being “captured.”

Fourth, Kings decide which player-controlled avatar, if any, a Princess should marry.

Finally, kings can automatically assume the position of Chancellor for the first term after they are crowned. This power is not subject to parliment vote and no one can run against them. However, the King still has the limitations of Chancellor while in office, which means he can be impeached by the parliment in exceptional circumstances. Any further attempts by the King to be Chancellor must go through the normal election process.

Prince

The Prince is a largely unimportant role, significant mainly because he is the heir to the throne and will become the next King. Unlike the title of Emperor, the title of Prince is added in addition to any other titles the player holds. This gives the player a small influence bonus during votes on Edicts and in elections for Chancellor. The Prince’s only duty is to preside over the parliment when the King is absent.

There is no control over who becomes the new Prince once the current one assumes the throne. Like with the king, this is a limitation imposed on us by the game itself. With luck, the role will only fall on players who seek to be active in the game. (*cross your fingers!*)

In practical terms, players must always remember that the Prince will inherit the throne, thus gaining power over the Houses through his ability to allocate newly conquered provinces. If you make an enemy of the Prince, your House might find itself smaller than the others when he becomes Emperor.

Chancellor

The position of Chancellor is without a doubt the most important and powerful one in EOTE. In game terms, the Chancellor is the person who actually plays the M2TW game. Unlike the other positions, you shouldn’t think of the Chancellor in the sense of what he can do, but rather what he cannot do. He is essentially playing the single player M2TW campaign with the following restrictions:

The Chancellor must obey the Game Rules and Edicts that have been passed by the Diet. Failure to do so can lead to impeachment by the Diet.

The Chancellor decides whether buildings are to be constructed in all settlements. If a settlement has a build queue from a Count, Duke, or King, then he must build the items on that list in the order listed. However, he does not have to build anything at all if he does not want to, he only has to follow the build queue if he does decide to build something. If a settlement has no build queue for whatever reason, the Chancellor can build whatever he likes.

The Chancellor moves the armies and hands out saved games to be played by the appropriate generals. He can fight battles that his avatar is commanding whenever he wants without pause, but must give other players 48 hours to fight their battles. If a player exceeds the time limit or if the battle is lead by a Captain or a general that is not represented by a player, the battle must be autoresolved. The only exception to the Chancellor’s control over the armies are the Household Armies. For more details, read the Game Rule on Household Armies.

Essentially everything else is free game. If there isn’t a Rule or Edict about it, the Chancellor can do whatever he wants. The Chancellor’s term last for 10 game turns (20 game years), but he can run for re-election if he wishes. In recognition for his contributions, the Chancellor gets a small influence bonus during votes on Edicts and in elections for Chancellor, even after he leaves

Signed Up:

Pharnakes - King William , King of England


Duchy of Canterbury




Duchy of York
nara shikamaru - First Elector of York
Ichigo - Second Elector of York



Duchy of Nottingham
sirnoob - Prince Rufus , 1st Elector of Nottingham


Duchy of Wellington
Warluster - Robert ,First Elector of Wellington.
gibsonsg91921 -Laurence Blidell,Diplomat of England/Second Elector of Wellington
El Diablo - Third Elector of Wellington





Cities Under Control:

York - Capital of the Duchy of York

Nottingham - Capital of the Duchy of Nottingham.

London - Capital of the Duchy of Canterbury.

Caen - Capital of the Duchy of Wellington.


I will post more later.

Hi, I would be interested, as a member of the Duchy of York.

Awesome!

We need about 10-20 people to start.

And we need to allocate titles (Duke/Count/etc) and then get it started!

Got two questions:

1) What version of M2TW are you planning to use; and
2) Are you going to use any bug fixes or mods?

1) probably 1.2, as it looks like it offers a better experince.

2) None I can think of, unless anyone wishes to suggest any?

How many turns per year/ years per turn are we going to use?

Probably 1 Turn : 1 Year.

hi i'm interested if youl let a newbie to pbms join i don't mind what i am

damn i can't edit im mean if you will let me join not youl

Seeing as you don't mind what Duchy your in,I will assign you to The Duchy of Nottingham.

I am going to start the game up, and assign characters to players.

C',on peoples sign up here! In desperate need of players for early start!

Dang, i saw this and thought it be fun to join, but then i saw MTW2 mentioned and downloading saved games. I don't have MTW2 if thats not apparent, and I really wanted to play along, ok its official now i'm sad, and want a new comp that could handle MTW2.... Well maybe next time Warluster, think i'll keep comin by though to see how this turns out.

And if you become possesed and let me in, Ill do 2 things, a jig, and question your sanity, and not care what house, but being w/o MTW2 i doubt i could play, and i think i'll shut up now before my long windness pisses someone off.

Hm...

You could join up as a agent? Spy,Assasain,Priest or Diplomat.

Or you could join anyways, but you don't have to download the save, you could just be an elector.

Or we could change to MTW.

Do you want to join up as an agent,or an elector?

Well don''t change to MTW something happened were my comp thinks its still installed, despite me taking off every last component of it, and now i can't install MTW Gold i recently got, and I've tried everything short of reformatting my comp to fix this. Sorry if i'm a downer for you, and if i've taken up space.

But if you let me in I'd like to try my hands at an elector if thats ok, if not then either a diplomat or a priest.

Many thanks from Nara.

SUre, you can join as an elector.

What Duchy?

Okay, avatars being assigned:

Pharnakes, you are now in control of King William. You may become chancellor, from now on in In Character conerstations (In the Parliment,in messages) you shall be referred to as King WIlliam.

sirnoob: You are now Prince Rufus. You shall be referred to as the Prince, and are to succed the Throne when the King dies. Other then that, you are a normal General.

nara: You are an elector, you vote in Parliment, makes laws. You are also assigned a personal unit to represent you on the Campaign Map. That unit right now is a unit of Mailed Knights, but may be upgraded.


Anyone can sign up while this game is playing, so please do as we will be getting more avatars very soon.

ill join as an agent for the Duchy of Wellington

What type of agent? And are you sure you don't want to join as a elector? You won't have to play in-game.

someone is a mailed knights regiment? how are they going to tell who is who when u have more than one mailed knight?

because it will stand out. SOmeone isn't an actual regiment, its like their escort. THey choose where they want the escort to go, if they want it to join armies and stuff. Am adding it to rules now.

Okay,gibsong, you are now signed up as a diplomat.

okay, I'm happy that you'll let me try, even though i have never done a PBM before nor played MTW2, though i do have a question, or 2; what name should i use for the actual "play" and is there a map i could find online for MTW2 that i could use and reference when different cities are named so as i can know at least where it is?

1) Name: First Elector of York, or nara if you want.

2) I will take a pic of the map around where we're playing and put it online.

I'll play this PBM. Duchy of York. Seems like I'de be more likely to play this and get an avatar than KotR.

What difficulty are we playing on?

Hard Campaign, Hard Battles.

Anyway, welcome Ichigo! I hope you enjoy this PBM.

Okay all, propose the laws and all at the Parliment. You can propose laws for another 2 hrs, then it closes and the polls open up.

Also if anyone wants to be Chancellor (The one who runs and plays the game for 10 turns) then please say so, and you shall be put in a poll and everyone votes for who they want. Unless The King assumes automatic Chancellorship.

Just wanted to point out that England doesn't have control of York at the beginning of the game.

Right, Ichigo, even though you just joined, you due to get the avatar of Henry, who comes of age in 2 turns I think.

I have taken pics of family tree,map and avatars. Now to post 'em!

Also:

Prince Rufus is to be Duke of Nottingham.

Robert is Duke of Wellington.

Henry is going to be Duke of York.

So right now Canterbury hasn't got a Duke.

And we're going to get another avatar soon after Henry, so sign up!

That's very good.

I know York has't been captured, but I used the spare army to take it, so its ours now.

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Originally Posted by Warluster

I know York has't been captured, but I used the spare army to take it, so its ours now.

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Ok I didn't know that.

I've made a info thread, and updated it with latest stuff, go there for a read on our characters and for maps.

@nara Also thats where you'll find your map!

hi i'd like to ask you leave the parliament open for 24 hours in future has i have missed all the voting in england

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Originally Posted by sirnoob

hi i'd like to ask you leave the parliament open for 24 hours in future has i have missed all the voting in england

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Voting hasn't opened up yet I don't think.

oh right never mind

Right, you can no longer propose any laws at the parliment until next session. Polls shall open soon so you can vote.

I would be keento join although a severe case of "work-itis" means that I will be an infrequent attendee (so a lesser part at this stage for me).

Ohh and as I live in Wellington (albeit a Wellington on the other side of the world) I would be keen for the Hosue of Welly-town please.

(note that no mention of the dismal hurricanes season is to be attcahed to this:laugh4: )

Welcome El Diablo!

just a pointer, there is the Parliment thread for voting laws, and dscussing stuff like army movements,recent happenings (in game) all IC though.

There is this thread, the OOC one, where you discuss everything out of character.

And there is the EotE info thread, for all info on the game +map + character info=more.

Hope that helps!

There haven't been any new posts for ages is this pbm dead?

I think so.

More a lack of players, the King/Prince not participating and no CHancellor.